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3/4 of a Jesus

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« on: 05-15-2004 02:23 »

Is it really possible that something like what happened to Fry could actually happen? Is it possible to stop someone's heart and actually preserve their body in such a way that their heart will be able to be started again at a later time?   confused
Please enlighten.
David A

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« Reply #1 on: 05-15-2004 02:29 »

Theoretically possible?  Sure.

Likely to actually be done at any time in the forseeable future?  Don't bet on it.
Yinger36

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« Reply #2 on: 05-15-2004 02:40 »

If you even saw Demolition Man then that probably offeres the best glimpse (that I know of at least) of what it could be like.
sheep555

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« Reply #3 on: 05-15-2004 02:42 »

You can already do it on a small scale, with single cells - such as human eggs, which are typically frozen in liquid nitrogen.
Grim

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« Reply #4 on: 05-15-2004 03:00 »
« Last Edit on: 05-15-2004 03:00 »

The problem with freezing an entire body, is that when the blood ices up, it tears arteries and viens,  and the brain goes funny, making revival all the more difficult

Edit: Spelling mistake
maddoc3d

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« Reply #5 on: 05-15-2004 03:13 »

@Grim.. Well the good ol' writers of Splinter Cell2: Pandora's Tommorow fixed that by scooping out the brain and freeze drying that. The game actually gave a good reason why they did it, but I didnt care because I wasn't playing, and it's just a game. Regardless who'd want to be a frozen meat popsicle?!? Maybe we could ask Walt..

.. I didn't ask you for a completely reasonable excuse, I asked you to get busy..
Monk_K

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« Reply #6 on: 05-15-2004 03:39 »

For Fry's body to survive over a thousand years, I think every cell in his body would have to be frozen instantly. This is not yet possible, but in the future, who knows what new technologies we'll have! However, I wouldn't what anybody testing a freezing technique on me until I was proven to be safe!
Col. Klink

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« Reply #7 on: 05-15-2004 03:50 »

Yeah they were a Bit dodgy in that Regards. Now everoyne Who Isnt Familiar with Cryonics just thinks that its impossible or thats how it will be in the future.

The deal with Cryonics is simply That you preserve A dead body As best you can, and just assume that they will somehow be able to completely restore you in the Future.
cyba

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« Reply #8 on: 05-15-2004 05:03 »

I remember seeing a documentary a while ago which showed people who had to have heart surgery being cooled down for the duration of the operation, and it worked really well. Also there are reports of people who get stuck in freezing water after falling through ice who are technically dead for hours and then are revived successfully.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #9 on: 05-15-2004 11:21 »

According to Austin Powers.....yes it was possible all the way back in the 60's. And if Austin Powers says its possible, then its damn well possible.
Davey

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« Reply #10 on: 05-15-2004 11:22 »

Well Actually you can only cryogenically frezze dead people now who in the right mid'd do that!
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #11 on: 05-15-2004 11:24 »
« Last Edit on: 05-15-2004 11:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Davey:
now who in the right mid'd do that!

*freezes self*

See you in a thousand years.

Davey

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« Reply #12 on: 05-15-2004 11:25 »
« Last Edit on: 05-15-2004 11:25 »

If It was Posible to freeze myself I would! THis Age is so damn slow!

Edit: A Time Machine'd be better
victor2000
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« Reply #13 on: 05-15-2004 15:25 »

 
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Originally posted by Grim:
The problem with freezing an entire body, is that when the blood ices up, it tears arteries and viens,  and the brain goes funny, making revival all the more difficult
That's what I think as well.  It's just not possible yet in this time.  tongue
VoVat

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« Reply #14 on: 05-15-2004 16:38 »

I think I heard somewhere that cryogenic freezing usually involves removing the bodily fluids before freezing the body, so I doubt it would really work the way it did for Fry.
Davey

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« Reply #15 on: 05-15-2004 16:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Grim:
The problem with freezing an entire body, is that when the blood ices up, it tears arteries and viens,  and the brain goes funny, making revival all the more difficult

Now Wonder Fry's so Dumb!



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Ekarderif

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« Reply #16 on: 05-15-2004 20:43 »

He was dumb before the freezing.

Intercom: There's no one by that name here, or anywhere. I hope that in time, you'll realize what an idiot you've been.
Fry: I wouldn't count on it.
Col. Klink

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« Reply #17 on: 05-15-2004 21:36 »

A lot of people saw that Documentary. After Trials Hospitals are finally convinced it works and isnt harmful so they are adopting that.

It protects the Brain from lack of oxygen for a time. But after a set amount of time the cold itself starts to work against the brain and cells begin dying again. It protects the brain but not the body.
Passing user

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« Reply #18 on: 05-16-2004 06:33 »

No, because freezing damages vital tissues.  But I don't care.
Davey

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« Reply #19 on: 05-16-2004 07:57 »

 
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Originally posted by Ekarderif:
He was dumb before the freezing.

Intercom: There's no one by that name here, or anywhere. I hope that in time, you'll realize what an idiot you've been.
Fry: I wouldn't count on it.

Have you noticed he was dumber because on all the flash backs he never seemed to be as dumb as he is in the future!



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M0le

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« Reply #20 on: 05-16-2004 22:10 »

From what I've gathered the whole idea with Cryogenics that they freeze the body, but because of the freezing, the body is literally all torn up and wrecked. Then they hope that in the future they will have invented nanotechnology to restore the body back to normal before unfreezing.
Therefore Futurama barely even follows the basic idea of Cryogenics.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #21 on: 05-16-2004 22:19 »

There's rumor that Walt Disney froze himself.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #22 on: 05-16-2004 22:22 »

Well it's a cartoon, anything happens. But I'm sure in time we will be able to freeze ourselves.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #23 on: 05-17-2004 00:44 »

 
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Originally posted by DrJohnZ:
There's rumor that Walt Disney froze himself.

Na, if he really did, Micheal Eisner would tear of his skin and wear it around Disney Land naked to attract crowds.

winna

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« Reply #24 on: 05-17-2004 01:02 »

Cryogenic freezing is something they made up for tv.  It's like the roadrunner and the cyote... Everyone knows there isn't such things as roadrunners, and the acme corporation doesn't make that much crap.  Most of it is good quality products.  roll eyes
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #25 on: 05-17-2004 01:17 »

There is actually such thing as the road runner, but they don't run nearly that fast.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #26 on: 05-17-2004 01:17 »

But I thought Forever Young -Mel Gibson- was a movie.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #27 on: 05-17-2004 04:05 »
« Last Edit on: 05-17-2004 04:05 »

The Acme corporation was/is real!?

Anyway, Cryogenics is a duff idea at this moment in time as you are already dead when they freeze and I think it will be quite awhile before they invent a cure for death.
David A

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« Reply #28 on: 05-17-2004 05:15 »

 
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Originally posted by DrJohnZ:
There's rumor that Walt Disney froze himself.

Nope.  He was cremated.  Look it up.
tom123

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« Reply #29 on: 05-17-2004 08:34 »

We don't have the technology to quite do that now, but maybe sometime in the future.
feralHuman

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« Reply #30 on: 05-17-2004 10:07 »

it's the ice that destroys cells, like some of you guys mentioned.

there are some kinds of frogs that hibernate in ice during winter. they have some sort of anti-freeze in the blood so ice crystals don't form.
Gocad

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« Reply #31 on: 05-17-2004 14:51 »
« Last Edit on: 05-17-2004 14:51 »

   
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Originally posted by winna:
Cryogenic freezing is something they made up for tv.

no, there are firms that offer this kind of service.

~FazeShift~

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« Reply #32 on: 05-17-2004 14:54 »

Yeah, it costs you about 15 grand but if you're rich and about to die anyway, what have you got to lose?

Assuming you sold all your family members to be rich in the first place...  tongue
Alliteration

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« Reply #33 on: 05-17-2004 15:27 »

@Nasty Pasty: HAHAHAHA!!!! That is funny and disturbing at the same time!
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #34 on: 05-17-2004 15:41 »

 
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Originally posted by Alliteration:
@Nasty Pasty: HAHAHAHA!!!! That is funny and disturbing at the same time!

glad at least one person thought so...

Young_and_Angry

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« Reply #35 on: 05-17-2004 18:11 »

 
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Originally posted by feralHuman:


there are some kinds of frogs that hibernate in ice during winter. they have some sort of anti-freeze in the blood so ice crystals don't form.
Their livers produce antifreeze. NEXT!


"Does not your scrotum need kicking?"
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« Reply #36 on: 05-17-2004 21:26 »
« Last Edit on: 05-17-2004 21:26 »

What about the Tardigrade, he's pretty small and can survive freezing, but he's too small to have a liver!  tongue
VoVat

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« Reply #37 on: 05-19-2004 20:02 »

 
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The Acme corporation was/is real!?

There are probably several companies with that name.  Acme is a chain of grocery stores in my area.  I doubt there's actually an Acme Corporation that makes malfunctioning roadrunner-catching products, though.
David A

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« Reply #38 on: 05-19-2004 20:27 »

 
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
What about the Tardigrade, he's pretty small and can survive freezing, but he's too small to have a liver!   tongue

When a tardigrade goes into suspended animation it expels all the water from its body.  No water means no ice, so there's no need for anti-freeze.

Go tardigrades!   cool
Neil McNeil

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« Reply #39 on: 05-19-2004 21:26 »
« Last Edit on: 05-19-2004 21:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
  *freezes self*

See you in a thousand years.


Say hi to Zoidberg for me, and leave your valuables in this century so Bender doesn't steal them. 

A thousand yrs, do u think that Futurama represents an acurate depiciton of the Future?  or is it only in someways? 
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