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fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #320 on: 07-24-2004 01:33 »

Again, I feel we should send a message to FOX about the date, Aug 10, 2003.  Maybe if we wrote that date along with the labels, that would be alright, but I'm still in favor on mailing them on Aug, 10.
Gwan101

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« Reply #321 on: 07-24-2004 01:59 »

We have... Less than 2 weeks. We simply dont have time anymore. We dont have a website yet. We don't have enough people doing this.

Besides, I don't think that Fox would really care that they arrive on August 10th. Only the fans would notice. I don't think that Fox looks at August 10th as "They day we cancelled Futurama". It wouldn't really make a difference to them.

We neeed to bump it back to the Emmy date.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #322 on: 07-24-2004 02:06 »
« Last Edit on: 07-24-2004 02:06 »

And if Futurama doesn't win either award, then it would be for nothing.  I'm not taking any chances in trying to mail them on Emmy's day.

How about on Aug 24?  Season Four comes out on that date.

Whoever is working on the website should get started now.  Please get it done.  If we do change the mailing date, I feel we should at least write, "Aug 10, 2003" on the can somewhere to inform FOX we haven't forgotten about the cancelation of Futurama.

This was suppose to be just a reminder to FOX that we haven't forgotten, nothing more.  Now people want to get the Emmy's involved in this.  That should be a separate thing.
Gwan101

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« Reply #323 on: 07-24-2004 02:11 »

Hey, were sending them cans of salty fish with Futurama labels on them. I don't think that they'll  think that we've forgotten about the cancellation.

August 24th sounds ok.
ouch

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« Reply #324 on: 07-24-2004 02:30 »

The website is still go. I talked with Nick today. He really ought to know that I don't like being out of touch for so long! he says a couple of days, but don't take his word 100%.

August 24th is a good day for FOX to be paying attention, but the truth of the matter is, they have no chance of paying attention to us no matter how sinificant the date is if we aren't big enough. Now, one of the petitions: does anyone know how much it grew a month after starting? two months? This kind of information is what we need in order to give ourselves enough time. And really, as long as it is agreed upon, we can pick any date we want. 4 months even.
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #325 on: 07-24-2004 02:39 »
« Last Edit on: 07-24-2004 02:39 »

OK, I'm going to officially vote for August 24 ... like I said, that's probably the most $ignificant date in the mind$ of FOX people. 

As for the Emmys, I think we should shoot for sending in postcards referencing royal jelly and space bee honey, as well as something from "Devil's Hands", regardless if there is a win or not.  Two nominations of a show that hasn't had a first-air in a year ought to turn some heads, even at FOX.

(edit): Ouch -
The larger existing petition (8,000 + sigs) had considerably less when I discovered it myself a few months ago.  I'd hazard to say it's grown by about 1,000 a month, but don't hold me to that.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #326 on: 07-25-2004 20:13 »

 
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Originally posted by ouch:
The website is still go. I talked with Nick today. He really ought to know that I don't like being out of touch for so long! he says a couple of days, but don't take his word 100%.

Are there any new developments on the website?  We may not make it for Aug 10, but will it be up in running before Aug 24?
ouch

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« Reply #327 on: 07-25-2004 20:23 »
« Last Edit on: 07-25-2004 20:23 »

The site will definitely be up before then
KAH

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« Reply #328 on: 07-26-2004 03:24 »

Hopefully not the day before mail day.
Vida

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« Reply #329 on: 07-26-2004 12:33 »

I’m going to suggest the date of Sept. 23rd.

 Reasons:
(1)  As Ouch mentioned, the date doesn’t really matter.  The only thing that matters is that we set a date that gives us enough time to prepare.   Sept. 23rd gives us 2 MONTHS.   We’re going to need that time to get the word out, and convince people who have given up hope that this is possible.

(2)  Sept. 23rd is the Monday after the Emmy’s air.  So if Futurama wins, Great! Then all our postcards and cans of fish will be sort of a “congratulations” to FOX and a reminder of how many fans the show has.

(3)  If Futurama loses, then our postcards and fish will be our “Condolences” to FOX, but still a reminder of how many fans the show has.

(4)  It doesn’t really matter if Futurama wins or loses.  The important thing is that by being nominated it’s getting attention.

(5)  Regardless of an Emmy win or loss, a few days after the award show, Futurama is still going to be fresh in their minds.  Sending FOX execs our mailings then is going to be far more significant than sending them stuff on a date that only means something to us fans.

(6)  If you guys really want to do something on Aug. 24th, I highly recommend pre-ordering the DVD.  I can’t stress this enough, the one thing GARANTTEED to get ATTENTION is MONEY.  High DVD sales is what got the Family Guy back in production.

* As I’ve mentioned before, I work in this industry, I know how this business works and I understand the mindset of TV executives.  (I only ask that you keep this in mind when you read my posting)
Cloud 9

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« Reply #330 on: 07-26-2004 19:34 »

Sorry it took so long to post, I was in Key West for a week. If you guys are still interested in my mom's letter, I'll be posting it up shortly.

Those who choose to alter fate will do so at their own misery.
Gwan101

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« Reply #331 on: 07-26-2004 20:29 »

Awesome Cloud.

And Vida, I think 2 months is a bit much.
Vida

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« Reply #332 on: 07-27-2004 12:45 »

Gwan,

Why do you think Sept. 23rd is too long?  I think the timing is perfect.  It's right after the Emmy's so FUTURAMA is going to be fresh in their minds, and that gives us enough time to prepare. 

We're going to need time recruit people and get the word out.  And in some cases convince people that this is possible.

Sept. 23rd isn't as far away as your think.  (Its LESS than 2 months away)
Gwan101

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« Reply #333 on: 07-27-2004 14:49 »

Well, what about the day after the Emmys or something? You said it was like a week after, and Fox WILL have forgotten by then. Lol
Vida

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« Reply #334 on: 07-27-2004 21:55 »

Actually...the Emmy's are on Sept. 19th, which is a Sunday.  I like your idea Gwan, sending stuff the day after the Emmy's so that it arrives in their offices on Monday. 

How about it everybody, Sept. 20th -- The day after the Emmy's?

Comments?  Objections? 
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #335 on: 07-27-2004 22:14 »
« Last Edit on: 07-28-2004 00:00 »

Personally, I don't like the idea of sending "Condolences" to FOX if Futurama doesn't win the two emmys.  I wanted to send a harsh reminder to FOX telling them "shame on them" for cancelling the show.  If we do send them anchovies in Sept and Futurama loses both emmys, do you think they'll give a damn about our "Condolences"?  I don't think so.  I'd want to send them anchovies on a day before emmys like the one year anniversary of the show's cancelation, or Aug. 24, the date the final DVD of Futurama hits the stores. 

Look at it this way.  If DVD sales are high the first day of the DVD's release and FOX got the anchovies on that same day, then that would make a bigger impact then sending "Condolences" to FOX if Futurama loses both emmys.  I hope Futurama does win the emmys, but based on what happened last year, I'm not sure what to expect.  However, I feel sending anchovies to FOX during a much more cool time for Futurama (People buying the DVDs) then sending them during a time of uncertainty.  (1/5 chance Futurama wins an emmy.)

This debate is pointless.  We Futurama fans are not united enough, since we can't decide an exact date to send FOX anchovies and it is getting close to the original intented mailing date.  And that causes the protest to not be that powerful.  If we aren't united this protest will be no different than the letters we sent to FOX a year ago begging them not to cancel Futurama. Star Trek fans are united, Roswell fans were united when they did their protest, but why aren't us Futurama fans united?  We are killing Futurama faster than FOX did.

At this point, I would've expected fansites to be rallying more people into joining AFF.

   
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Talk is cheap let's get off our asses and go to store, buy anchovies and send them to FOX now.  The one year anniversary of the show's cancelation is coming up, Aug 10.  Let's send a message to FOX that we Futurama fans are still alive.

I LOVE THE NAME ANCHOVIES FOR FRY.

Can someone post FOX's mailing address, to inform others of our cause?


This is what I first said about this idea and I'm sad that we haven't fully been that committed to this.  For those who aren't committed to this attempt of trying to bring the show back, then they shouldn't complain after the emmy saying "I wish the show was renewed."  If you complain about the show being cancelled, but didn't even bother to do this protest, then why are you complaining?
ouch

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« Reply #336 on: 07-28-2004 01:02 »
« Last Edit on: 07-28-2004 01:02 »

Look, I'm seeing to it that this site gets up, and whatever date goes on there is final. Once the webmaster gives us our goddamned site, then we can start rallying, ok?
winna

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« Reply #337 on: 07-28-2004 01:19 »

Damn people calm down.  Me thinks you people are in too much of a rush.  Sure that website should have been up and that lazy bastard of a webmaster should be shot for not putting it up earlier.  Anyways, you're thinking of staging a mass event to send hundreds (if not thousands) of anchovy cans up Fox's ass with the intent of sparking new interest in Futurama.  We already did the petition thing, and it was a grand bastard of an effort, but the point is, that didn't get done in a day.  That didn't get done in two weeks, it was up for months.  I like that your shooting for an important date, but if you want to make any worthy effort this has to be centralized and it has to be spread out.   The site will give you centrilization, but you have to give this grass roots effort time to build up.  I've said my peace and you can take with that what you will.  I assure you that what I just said is the BEST way possible to go about this business, and if you disagree then you should handle the whole damn thing yourself; I guarantee you won't get very far, cause there is no I in TEAM and something this massive needs a serious TEAM effort.
ouch

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« Reply #338 on: 07-28-2004 01:58 »

ladies and gentlemen, meet our webmaster.

I agree with him entirely, and think that while sept. 20th is a definite improvement over the original date, we need more time. Hell, look back at when AFF was first proposed. That's a long freakin time ago. And look how much has been done since then. Granted, my inputs have helped (I don't mean to brag but it's true), but we still need more time. Bottom line: we need to have patience and discipline, stop worrying about the significance of the date, and set our date farther out. FOX may be thinking about Futuarama after the Emmy's, but they'll still remember down the line. Beleive me, they have the hindsight to remember the season 4 sales and the emmy's, and add them with AFF to get an idea of the magnitude of the support for Futurama.

Having said that, I say we hit them on Thanksgiving. We'll be honoring the tradition of sharing food then.
Scifly

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« Reply #339 on: 07-28-2004 19:46 »

When is thanksgiving?  Remember not everyone doing this is American. 
ouch

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« Reply #340 on: 07-28-2004 19:52 »

Thanksgiving is on the last thursday of November (or something like that). I knew there were non-Americans doing this, and that Thanksgiving was an American holiday, but I somehow forgot that I'd need to say what date it is (lol)
Vida

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« Reply #341 on: 07-28-2004 20:12 »

I agree with you, Ouch & Winna that this is a big movement, and we REALLY need time to build up & rally.  However the problem with waiting until Thanksgiving (November 25th) is that the entertainment industry pretty much shuts down for the months of November & December.  Everything goes into Hiatus - most people go on vacation and TV shows go into reruns.  That means that for the most part, people aren't going to be in their offices.

I also agree with Gwan, that if we wait too long, the impact of what we're trying to do won't be as great.  (We need to hit them when the 4th season DVD sales and Emmy nominations are still relatively fresh.)

How about we compromise with the sometime in October?

*We really need to start coming to some compromises & decisions or this whole thing is going to fall apart.
Vida

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« Reply #342 on: 07-28-2004 20:27 »
« Last Edit on: 07-28-2004 20:27 »

FryFanSpyorama- I think you misunderstood what I meant by “Condolences”.  (That’s why I had it in quotes.   smile )

In this business Emmy wins or loses don’t matter, because that doesn’t generate money.  Awards shows are really just a way for the industry to toot its own horn. 

Fans = money.

So even if Futurama doesn’t win an Emmy and we send our “condolences” in the form of postcards and cans of anchovies, those 1000’s upon 1000’s (hopefully)  of “condolences” prove that the show still has 1000’s upon 1000’s of fans and therefore capable of generating tons of money.

*on a side note—I just found out that Baywatch initially got cancelled after only one season, but because it was so popular in syndication it was brought back.
IndieRocker J

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« Reply #343 on: 07-28-2004 20:35 »

 No I know! Lets send them a message on January 1st 3000!
 I can see that there is a lot of trouble deciding on which date but how about we just try and hit all the dates. Thatll be a bigger impact. That one show had fans sending Tobasco sauce Til the show got back on
ouch

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« Reply #344 on: 07-28-2004 21:01 »

Vida - Would it be such a bad thing to hit these guys on vacation, and if so, do we want to hit them before or after? I know January seems far off, and it may feel disapointing, but I don't  really see how it could hurt our cause.
gottalovebender

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« Reply #345 on: 07-28-2004 22:54 »

It has been months since I last posted on this thread, and you guys are getting way to all weirded out, personaly I see nothing wrong with the DVD's sale date, or the day after the Emmy's, Thanksgiving is a bit of a stretch though. I don't mean to push it back even more that most people on the thread have already, except IndieRocker J, but how 'bout March 29, the original air date. I think it was the 29 anyway, maybe it was the 28. Either way, it's significant, it gives us a very long time to advertise, and getting a web site is one thing, but we need to get more than just you guys to send anchovies and then time for the new AFFers to buy plenty of anchovies, and for the anchovies to go bad. If not that than I'm all for the DVD's sale date, and don't forget the kind letters of request for assistence to Gail on the 10 maybe, or if we're sending them in March, just a couple of days earler.

As for the Postcard thing, maybe have them ready by the Emmy's, and send them as soon as posible if they win, but keep them till we send the anchovies if they loose, cause sending them after the Emmy's if Futurama looses is just giving FOX a reason to laugh at our stupidity.

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Zoidberg227

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« Reply #346 on: 07-29-2004 02:58 »

Ouch just suggested to me raising the temperature of Earth's atmosphere by a million degrees a day until we get Futurama back (or at least raise the tempurature of the FOX HQ). 

But seriously, I want to take this beyond the anchovies.  I'm thinking referencing other episodes on their original air date, "Dear Robot Santa" letters this Xmas, and so on.  Just a little something to let them know we're dedicated; a force to be reckoned with. So, we should stick with either August 24th or the Emmy date for the anchovies, and do other things based on how that goes. 

But that's just me.
Corking

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« Reply #347 on: 07-29-2004 03:51 »

I haven't posted on this thread in a month or two, but hey... here I am putting up my opinion on work that other people have done. 

Call me crazy, but anchovies will make a bigger impact than postcards.  They need to be sent on a significant date because that's a big deal, that hundreds (thousands?) of Futurama fans would go out, spend money on anchovies and postage, and also make a concerted effort.

However, according to Vida (who we have no reason not to believe),  postcards will actually be read.  We should also send postcards/letters on an ongoing basis; maybe pick one day every month for all the fans to send in their mail.  On significant days (Emmys, DVD releases, cancellation/first airing), we can send the bigger, expensive stuff.

Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither will Futurama's rightful place be restored by one quick campaign (fishy and disgusting though it may be).

My suggestions:

August- anchovies on DVD release date.
September- postcards with pictures of the characters dressed in their best, saying something about going to the Emmys (doing it before would eliminate worries about whether or not Futurama will win).
October- I dunno, a picture of Bender in his ghost costume ("Cryonic Woman" ) or monkey mask, with the caption 'A world without Futurama is a scary place!'  Or something.
November- 'We give thanks for the new Futurama we are (hopefully) about to recieve.'
December- Robot Santa letters.
January- "Don't make us wait for the real thing in 3000; give us more Futurama now!"

...and that's all I've got.  It's late, and they might sound corny, but doing a mass project once a month would gather a lot of attention.

Any group can get thousands of people interested in a cause when it's a one time deal.  Keeping high numbers up over the months would make a much bigger statement.
ouch

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« Reply #348 on: 07-29-2004 06:18 »

Corking:
Every month? It's human nature to try something once and then forget about it. Look at all the people on PEEL who are pissed at us simply because they tried protesting before. Luckily, Adult Swim has renewed interest, giving us a second shot by getting new people angry and aware. Thus, we have to make this anchovy thing count, and by that I mean we have to let it build up. And if FOX doesn't give a shit about anniversary dates, why should we? Hitting them on a random date as opposed to a Futurama related date won't make them think any differently.

And finally, not just any group can get thousands of people interested in a cause when it's a one time deal. True, if you can get as many interested in a monthly deal then more power to ya, but I can assure you that people will lose interest, and we'll end up being a small group of washed-up rogues that refuse to die, like the Taliban.

Okay, maybe that won't be the case. But since getting a second shot in is uncertain, we have to send those anchovies as if it were our only chance.


Oh, and a final word, directed at nobody in particular: yes, there has been a lot of fruitless debate going on, but that is because the delay of the site has given us the time to allow such argument. But beleive me, once that site is ready it will be a different story. I went through the trouble of organizing the movement into a site, the official source of info for AFF, and thus I get the final say in what date goes on the official site, which makes it the official date.I hate to be a prick who sounds like that hen who baked the bread and then bitched about sharing it, but I can see that if I don't do a little bullying, nothing short of jack shit will ever get done.Democracy? We don't have the numbers for it. Unless you can show me how waiting longer than a month will damage the movement significantly enough to outweigh the advantage of greater numbers, 3 months MINIMUM will be what I consider an agreement.
Vida

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« Reply #349 on: 07-30-2004 04:25 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2004 04:25 »

Ouch-
Yes, doing this during hiatus would be a pretty bad idea.  That would be like sending stuff to a school during summer vacation. 

If you want 3 months, then how about October?

In Hollywood, the production year pretty much works like this.  There are 2 pilot seasons.  Jan-May & Aug-Oct.   This is when all the work goes on (new TV shows as well as current ones).  Nov-Dec & June-July is when everybody goes on vacation.

October is good because that’s the end of the current pilot season when everything is starting to slow down and there is a greater chance the TV execs will pay more attention to our mail.

Think of it this way, if you want to speak to someone in their office, do you go:
A)  on Saturday when no one is in?
B)  middle of the day when the phone calls and business deals are flying and they really don’t have time for you?
C)  at the end of the day when most business is done and they’re just sitting around waiting to go home?

Option C sounds like the best way to get someone to listen to you.
ouch

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« Reply #350 on: 07-30-2004 05:41 »

I just thought if we did it while they were gone it could pile up and make a nice "welcome back". Of course, that's unrealistic. I like October.
Vida

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« Reply #351 on: 07-30-2004 13:30 »

Excellent!  smile We're finally making decisions and getting somewhere. 

How about Oct. 25th.  That's the last Monday in October. 
(The idea is that the majority of our mail will come in on Monday, and the rest will trickle in during the rest of the week.) 

Or if that’s too close to Halloween, how about Monday October 18th?
Gwan101

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« Reply #352 on: 07-30-2004 21:12 »

I'm back. I had to go back to Carmel with my parents to finish some things up about the funeral and to collect some furniture.

So, do we have a set date yet? I'm so... not following the actual conversation.
Zeep

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« Reply #353 on: 07-31-2004 00:30 »

I say January 1st 2005. It gives us plenty of time to prepare and set up a fan base. plus, by the time the people get back to their offices after holiday break, their mailbox will be stuffed.

you do have to factor in that there's no way we're all going to get ours in on the same day. there'd be no way to estimate that accurately how long it will take to arrive.
Vida

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« Reply #354 on: 07-31-2004 11:45 »
« Last Edit on: 07-31-2004 11:45 »

I think we need to keep the momentum going.  Waiting until January would be way too long.  End of October is perfect, because:

1) 4th Season DVD comes out AUG. 24
2) Emmys on SEPT. 19
3) Matt Groening scheduled to host his fav. ep’s of Futurama week of SEPT. 27
(That is sure to get really high ratings)

Doing this in October means that Futurama is still relatively fresh in their minds.  We have to strike while the buzz around Futurama is still fresh. 

In Hollywood, as in any other business, that’s key.  Strike while the iron’s hot.
Gwan101

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« Reply #355 on: 08-03-2004 23:14 »

C'mon, we need to get together. Are we losing interest here? What's happening? Do we have a site yet?
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #356 on: 08-03-2004 23:19 »
« Last Edit on: 08-03-2004 23:19 »

Well, I guess people have lost interest.  I think I have.  I still have anchovies, and I plan to mail them whenever.  This goes back to what I said earlier, we Futurama fans aren't united. FOX put Futurama on a life-support and we are slowly pulling the plug.  I just hope you guys don't complain about wanting to bring the show back, cause then that would be hypocritical.
Evil Abe

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« Reply #357 on: 08-03-2004 23:41 »

I am still interested and I think other people are aswell but the debate is going on too long.  We need to either get a site to rally around and/or just pick a date and do it. 
ouch

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« Reply #358 on: 08-04-2004 05:23 »

Guys, don't give up. This will work as long as we get that site. Why don't we have it yet? I'd like to know myself. To save myself from stating my feelings twice, here is an email I sent to Winna, our webmaster:

"I've had it. Beggers can't be choosers, and you certainly had no obligation towards helping AFF, but you have no excuse for leading me and the others on the way you have: keeping us in suspense, promising things in " a couple of days" or less. If you're a procrasatinator, if you're slow, or if you don't care, that's all fine, but to make an offer and not keep your word is and has been detrimental to AFF, putting us significantly behind. I'm shopping around for another way to get this done. If you have actually done your part, you can show me and I'll call any new arrangements off, but I am not waiting a second longer for you. Maybe you don't like being yelled at, but you told me yourself I need to be a bit meaner to get things done, so here you are. To paraphrase Leela from Brannigan Begin Again, 'sometimes a leader has to be strict.' See you soon I hope."
Gwan101

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« Reply #359 on: 08-04-2004 10:43 »

Good. A couple days has turned into 3 weeks and thats way too much.

Is there anyone else that would do it? This sucks... it's like we've been reset back to square 1, even though we only got to square 2...
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