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« Reply #240 on: 07-16-2004 00:54 »

Excellent work Gwan, the site's all written up now. Of course we'll need to make several alteration after it's done, but the bulk of the site is done.
Gwan101

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« Reply #241 on: 07-16-2004 00:58 »

Hurrah! Who'se intimidating who now big FOX company!

On a side note, do you think that we should stick with the August 10th date, or bump it back a bit. The thing is August 10th is the meaningful date, but we could get way more people to do this if we had some more time. Perhaps we could go with the day that the Emmy awards are announced or something.
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« Reply #242 on: 07-16-2004 01:05 »

I'm for moving it to Sept. 16th (the Emmy awards). Let's wait and hear what one of the other big AFFers has to say (Zoidberg227, Mallzie...)
Gwan101

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« Reply #243 on: 07-16-2004 02:35 »

Ok. Yeah, we really need more time.

Should we wait for them to come here, or should we email them?
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #244 on: 07-16-2004 04:27 »
« Last Edit on: 07-16-2004 04:27 »

Ouch -
Glad you consider me a "big AFFer".I feel special now.  I was thinking maybe August 24th (the season 4 DVD release date) would be good, but that extra two weeks or so would be nice.  It's your call, though, Ouch.  You're the one heading this up.

I do think one of us should send emails with the web address of our page to all the main Futurama fansites ASAP so they can post that info.  I doubt very many of the regular users of many of these pages know about our efforts, and getting everyone on the same page would help a ton (after all, we don't want a bunch of people sending anchovies in to whatever FOX address they happen to know on the 10th, while we send them in September).  I volunteer for that task as soon as we get our page address.
Idan_Aharoni

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« Reply #245 on: 07-16-2004 04:56 »

Why not? Instead of sending them all at once, send them alot all the time... They'll be afraid to open a mail again.
KAH

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« Reply #246 on: 07-16-2004 07:24 »

We dont want to scare them. We shouldn't appear hostile (even if we are), we want to make them understand there are fans out there who want the show back and plenty more viewers to gain.
Mallzie

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« Reply #247 on: 07-16-2004 15:30 »
« Last Edit on: 07-16-2004 15:30 »

Though the tenth is a rather significant date, the time boost of waiting until around the 16th of September would probably turn out better results. We'll be a force to be reckoned with by then! Thanks for thinking of me Ouch!

On a side note: I agree with KAH, even those among us boiling with pure black rage must try to conduct themselves in as professional a manner as possible during the campaign. That means no letter bombs or notes written with the blood of unfortunate fox employees.
letter bombs or notes written with the blood of unfortunate fox employees.  wink
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« Reply #248 on: 07-16-2004 15:53 »
« Last Edit on: 07-16-2004 15:53 »

Hmmm...given the rate at which words spreads, I want to say september 19th. also, just imagine what an impact it would have on FOX receive all this Futurama mail and then see Futurama win an emmy or two later that day. It's a one-two punch.
Mallzie

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« Reply #249 on: 07-16-2004 16:13 »
« Last Edit on: 07-16-2004 16:13 »

Just a thought: Has anyone thought of posting AFF info on the message board at billywest.com or informing any other former Futurama cast or crew about our efforts (aside from DXC who I believe someone wrote to)? I think they'd feel amused and loved if they heard. Pehaps they might even, dare I say it, join in. Now THAT would be cool...if not unlikely.

Edit: Hey Ouch, are their any odd jobs I can do at the moment? I feel like I've been being a lazy bum after reading back over all the posts.  hmpf
Gwan101

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« Reply #250 on: 07-16-2004 17:02 »

So it's settled? The new date is Sept 19 now, right?

Yeah, if there is anything else you want me to do too, just tell me.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #251 on: 07-16-2004 19:06 »
« Last Edit on: 07-16-2004 19:06 »

Wait! Who's idea was it to change the mailing date?  I'm up for Futurama winning two emmys, but the purpose of this was to stick it to the face of FOX for canceling the show on Aug 10, 2003.  It was a protest for the one year anniversary.

I'm up for doing something on Sept 19, but i have a bad feeling about this.
What if we do decide Sept 19, but what if Futurama doesn't win the emmy?  We all thought Jurassic Bark would win last year, but lost to the Simpsons.  We all said that Simpson's episode was not as good as Jurassic Bark, but it won anyway.  What makes us sure history won't repeat itself and make this protest seem meaningless?  The Sting is way better than Jurassic Bark, but I don't feel like risking it with sending anchovies on Sept 19, if Futurama doesn't win.  It would only show FOX that our protest was a waste of time.

Here's a solution, why don't we send the anchovies on Aug 10, as planned and on Sept 19, we send them something else?
Chelsea

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« Reply #252 on: 07-16-2004 19:16 »

This might be a little difficult for anyone outside the US. Does anyone know the specific laws regarding shipping food items across the border? I work for a catalog company, and I know that we can't ship perishable food across the border, but do canned sardines count as perishable?
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« Reply #253 on: 07-16-2004 19:18 »

I agree with fryfan, why should we suddenly change the date to September 19 (two days from my birthday as it may be  wink ). If Futurama doesn't win the Emmy, our protest wouldn't be as clear. The one year anniversary makes more sense, in my opinion.

I have no strong feelings one way or the other for sending something different on Sept. 19.
Gwan101

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« Reply #254 on: 07-16-2004 19:32 »

 
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Originally posted by Chelsea:
but do canned sardines count as perishable?

*anchovies

I don't see an expiration date anywhere on the can, so they must be preserved and non-parishable.

I know that we would be taking a gamble with Sept 19, but we could get way more people to do this. We didn't even really start pulling this together until we had a month or so left. And what else could we send? If we send more than one item on two different dates we would seem desperate. I know that Futurama may not win the Emmy, but the fact that it was selected to win awards over a year after it was cancelled is still good. We could do something much smaller on August 10th (Everyone send them letters or something) and then hit them with the anchovies in September. We just seem really pressed for time right now and we need to give people more time to figure this out and commmit to it.
Chelsea

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« Reply #255 on: 07-16-2004 19:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Gwan101:
 *anchovies

Oh yeah, that's what I meant. Someone else said sardines somewhere else in the thread, and I got distracted.
Gwan101

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« Reply #256 on: 07-16-2004 19:40 »

Sardines should work too. Any fish in a can, as long as you can stick the label to it. :-D
germanfryfan

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« Reply #257 on: 07-16-2004 19:41 »

I do agree with fryfan and Kyle_M. The Tabasco Sauce and the following AFF-project was meant to be a reminder that Futurama fans ahve not forgotten what FOX caused to us when they cancelled Futurama on August the 10th.

Beside that September the 19th is the day when we get to know that Futurama will have lost again to the Simpsons (hopefully not), it has no reference to Futurama at all, while the 08-10 is a real sad day for us.

And on topic of sending cans from outside of the US. I think it is pretty hard to send them in, not because it is food, but because of the security protection of the US nowadays. They can't be sure whether there is some dangerous stuff in it (poison, spores, viruses, etc.).
I think they sort stuff like this out.
Gwan101

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« Reply #258 on: 07-16-2004 19:49 »

They can do whatever they want to the can in terms of security, as long as they don't open it. They would probably do little more than send it through an X-ray machine like you would find at the airport.

I still say move to sept 19. Whether it wins or not doesn't particularly matter. I mean look at it this way.. it's July 16. We have 25 days until August 10th. Everyone would have to send them early, so that puts any people at 17-20 days until you have to be ready. Not very many big Futurama sites have really put a lot of interest in this and we do not have our site up yet. We really need more people to start doing this, because right now it seems to basically be the 20 people or so that have come accross this thread.

We really need that extra month.
GlennGunnerZero

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« Reply #259 on: 07-16-2004 20:21 »

Glenn here, first time post, I saw this on one of the comments from GotFuturama and I wanted to support it. I've already made a post about it in a couple of other places I go. If you guy can tell me any changes that happen, I'll help and spread some more of the word of it. As to the date change I think it would be better just to keep it as August 10th. *Whistles away*
Gwan101

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« Reply #260 on: 07-16-2004 20:24 »

Good Glenn. Infect! Infect everyone and everyhting with AFF. If we are going to do August 10th, we have to work constantly at lightning speed. Go!

Ouch- you here? Have you heard anything new about how the site is coming along?
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #261 on: 07-16-2004 20:48 »

I have a suggestion why don't we send FOX honey or jelly  on Sept 19?  They both played a huge part in The Sting, so why don't be start buying Honey or Jelly for Sept 19, along with Anchovies for Aug 10?  Honey for Futurama, or something like that?

We can have two protests you know.

Mail Anchovies to FOX on Aug 10.

then mail honey or jelly to FOX on Sept 19.

How does this idea sound?
Gwan101

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« Reply #262 on: 07-16-2004 21:59 »

That sounds like an OK idea, but we'll have to see how all this goes first.

I'm not sure how many people would do honey as well. Honey is also much more expensive.

But we'll see. Let's get through AFF first.
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #263 on: 07-17-2004 01:14 »

As for something as big as a jar of honey or jelly... that may pose two problems.  One, it's more expensive, and postage will be more.  Two, because of the large size of cans that would be easy to open and put something inside, then reseal, we would pose a security problem.  I'm all for a continuing campaign; it shows we mean business.  How about sending something like Manwich cans in?  It would be obvious they haven't been opened, because it's impossible (to my knowledge) to reseal a metal can.  I'm open for sending in as many different references as we can. 

As for the date, what about sending one thing in on the 10th, preferably the anchovies (takes a lot less time than writing a letter), and thes send the other to coincide with the Emmys?  If we do the fish first, we can have everyone end their letter with a p.s. attached to the end that says something like:
"Look familiar?" and then a picture of our lable, or the lable itself.

As for you guys that are out of the U.S., and sending food is a concern, consider just carving out a wood block (balsa wood would be great - it's soft and light) or soft plastic to the shape of an anchovy can and paste the lable on.  The effect would be almost the same, and there shouldn't be any problem with sending something like that through the mail, anywhere. 

One more thing... while we're sending foodstuffs to FOX, we might as well ask them to donate it all to a food bank (especially the non-fish items) so it won't go to waste past our cause.  We could request it is done in the name of Anchovies for Fry, and that might get us some recognition as well.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #264 on: 07-17-2004 01:26 »

Well the whole jelly, honey thing was just a suggestion, I'm more concerned about the Aug 10, mailing date.
Gwan101

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« Reply #265 on: 07-17-2004 01:34 »

Me too. The date is a problem. We need to hurry now, we need to get that site, and we really need to spread the word and force people to commit.

Mallzie

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« Reply #266 on: 07-17-2004 23:28 »
« Last Edit on: 07-18-2004 00:00 »

Wow Zoidberg227, great idea with the whole donation thing! Go social responsibility! Also, I really love FFSO's idea of sending hony in as well, and I have an idea as how to make it work without spending a ton. Just send in those little honey packets you get for free at certain restaurants! (In Canada I believe you can get them at Tim Hortons in the US probably Craker Barrel)


Editited for accuracy of credit.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #267 on: 07-17-2004 23:37 »

For jelly get those little packets of jelly you'd use to put on bread if you were eating breatfast at some restaurant.  I usually eat breakfast out and I ask for bread they give me buttered bread and a jelly packet.  I don't use the packets, but they are free.
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #268 on: 07-18-2004 01:03 »

Come now, Mallzie... the donation thing was my idea. Gotta give credit where it's due frown

As for the honey or jelly packets - I like that idea better than jars.  They should be available in the U.S. at places like IHOP or Denny's.  Now all we need is someone good with Photoshop that can make infinitesimally small lables for them.  That, of course, means "not me".

Steward of 50,000 Zoids and 100 each of special edition Thulium and Thallium-minted Zoids.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #269 on: 07-18-2004 01:06 »

Germanfryfan, if you are reading this, you are needed once more.
Evil Abe

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« Reply #270 on: 07-18-2004 01:15 »

I think the date of Aug. 10 should be kept with for the anchovies.  If the date is changed now cans will start arriving a FOX central from then to Sept. 19 because people will be confused. If Futurama does win an Emmy or two I think that in an of itself will send a message to FOX.  Also if you are outside the US I do not believe you will have a problem mailing the cans of anchovies because it is prepackage food.   
Gwan101

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« Reply #271 on: 07-18-2004 01:26 »

I say only send the anchovies. The packets would cost a bit just because you have to eat there in the first place.

Not to mention the closet Dennys/IHOP is about 45 minutes away from me.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #272 on: 07-18-2004 02:08 »
« Last Edit on: 07-18-2004 02:08 »

Wait, I have a question.  CGEF says the winning results would be in by Sept 12, not Sept 19.  If we do decide to go through with this we should mail them before Sept 12.  However, we may have a problem with this.  9/11 is the problem.  It would seem suspicious if Post Offices get jars of honey around the third anniversary of the Sept 11th attacks.  You know security in the US will be on alert high by then and paranoia may get the best of people.
germanfryfan

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« Reply #273 on: 07-18-2004 02:09 »

I heard your prayers  laff

I was just recording Futurama ("Crimes of the Hot" aired for the 2nd time in Germany) and so I'm still reading PEEL.



This is a quick made, and I'm not sure about the colors.

Since it is 8:08 am now and I still got no sleep, I'll read cour comments this afternoon.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #274 on: 07-18-2004 02:10 »

That looks great, you are so fast.  However, what do you think about what I said about the mailing issue?
Jicannon

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« Reply #275 on: 07-18-2004 02:13 »
« Last Edit on: 07-18-2004 02:13 »

I understand the anchovy campaign, but sending honey would do nothing but waste your time and money on stamps....the judging pannel won't choose The Sting to win because FOX received several jars of honey   roll eyes
Gwan101

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« Reply #276 on: 07-18-2004 02:17 »

Honey costs and and weighs more (postage). That could keep some people from doing the seconf part.

I say take it one step at a time. We're really running out of time, so we need to get the AFF thing DONE. If we want to later or if FOX doesn't react at all, we could plan something else later. For now let's just concentrate on one thing at a time.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #277 on: 07-18-2004 02:20 »
« Last Edit on: 07-18-2004 02:20 »

Maybe, instead each person sending many jars.  How about each person just send one or two jars. It would be cheaper and since the jars are bigger than cans, there is no need for each person to send so many jars.

Also, I want to mention DXC is in support of AFF.  Thanks to KAH in providing the info.

 
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Originally posted by KAH:
This concerns issues in both the Anchovy thread and the "sad news" thread so I didn't know where to put it. I recently emailed David X to get some rumors cleared up as well as ask a few general questions....and he actually responded, woohoo! Here's his email (he put in bits of my emailto him and responded):
Hello, Chelsea! Sorry for the delay in responding. I only check this e-mail once in a while, and respond to a few random messages as time permits. You got lucky!


Recently there's been a fairly big campaign involving writing letters to Gail Berman and other high up people as well as a sillier, more fun, campaign in which Angry Norwegian Anchovy tins will be sent to Fox's PO Box. This movement, loveingly called Anchovies For Fry or AFF, is planned to happen around august 10th.


It can't fail!


The thing is, we always thought it was the network standing in the way of new episodes. We recently heard from someone who worked at Fox that the network was interested in buying more episodes and that because The Simpsons will be ending soon Matt demanded the 8:00 timeslot but they wouldn't give it to him and that was that. Matt wouldn't accept 7:00 again. Obviously 7:00 isn't when the show should be on but aren't new episodes worth more than that? Is there more to it than that? Is there any truth to this at all?


No.


What about a movie? Any information at all would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much.


We'd love to make a movie as well as new episodes of the show. The only problem I know of is finding someone to pay for them!

Good luck with the anchovy campaign. May the Angry Norwegian smile upon you. Or frown... whichever is better.

Yours,

- DXC


Gwan101

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« Reply #278 on: 07-18-2004 02:42 »

This is really offtopic, but it was extremely funny.

The single best quote on Roseanne...

"If it fails on our network, we'll sell it to FOX!"
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« Reply #279 on: 07-18-2004 04:51 »
« Last Edit on: 07-18-2004 04:51 »

Woah! All this happened while I was gone?

I really don't think that the August 10th date should have priority over our numbers, because I don't think the significance of the date should effect the validity of our principle: Do we get to be racist on any day other than Martin Luther King's birthday? Our numbers do effect the validity of our principle however, since we hope to speak for public taste. We have no site as of now and our webmaster can't be rushed into working any faster than he is. I know I am just some person who stumbled upon AFF and decided to make it my business, but by doing so I've brought it from an individual clique protest and given it the potential of a veritable million man march. Trust my judgement on this one. It doesn't have to be the Emmy's, we just need more time. If you still feel mad about Futurama's cancellation after August 10 comes and goes, then your protesting can wait the same.

Update: Our webmaster can be rushed apparently. A working version of the site will be up tommorow. I will try to see an agreement to the AFF plan by then so we can finalize the site content and go public.
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