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2meals in 1week

Poppler
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« on: 04-19-2004 16:45 »

ok this is my first post but i got a serious question to see if any one knows the answer for me.  in episode 304 "luck of the fryrish" how come his the philip j fry that was first man on mars, well how come he didn't get his head imortalised in a jar? cos landing on mars would have been a major thing so i thought his head would have been in a jar but aparantly not. does anyone know why he wasnt put in a jar cos it is making me inquizitive. thanks for the help in advance
Young_and_Angry

Professor
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« Reply #1 on: 04-19-2004 16:47 »

Perhaps he just wanted to flat out die and NOT be a head in a jar?Plus, you can't really use yer hands when yer just a head. tongue
Sm@ Cpt. Libido

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« Reply #2 on: 04-19-2004 16:48 »

The logical thing was the head in jars technology was not invented at the time but apparently if they can get Claudia Schiffer and richard nixon's heads in jars then they can get anyone's.
My other idea is that he died in a way that left his head in a way that it could not function properly if it was put into a jar.

These are just ideas but that is a very good question for a first post.

Also welcome to PEEL you'll like it here.
Bender Waffles
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« Reply #3 on: 04-19-2004 16:48 »

I really don't think that anyone knows that question.. It wasn't answered in any parts of the episode...

Here is the story of the Grasshopper and the Octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for the winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend, ate candy, and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. And also he got a racecar. Is any of this getting through to you???
Coilette

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« Reply #4 on: 04-19-2004 16:49 »

'That just poses further questions!'

As Young_and_Angry said, Philip probably asked not to be put into a jar.
2meals in 1week

Poppler
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« Reply #5 on: 04-19-2004 16:50 »

thanks for the welcome.  they must of had technology cos they get george washingtons and abraham lincons and they would have just been skulls its all a bit confusing to me.
Coilette

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #6 on: 04-19-2004 16:57 »

in that case, it is Magic.   tongue
Bushmeister

Professor
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« Reply #7 on: 04-19-2004 17:04 »

Maybe they cloned them?
Ranadok

Starship Captain
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« Reply #8 on: 04-19-2004 17:37 »

I think it says in a comic that they are cloned heads. As for Philip Fry, perhaps his head is on Mars, seeing as he was the first person there? Perhaps in the government building. It never really says that he isn't in a jar, we just don't see him.

Also: Re-check/weird scenes?
evan

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« Reply #9 on: 04-19-2004 18:17 »

But if Phil's head is still alive somewhere, wouldn't he have heard of his uncle being unfrozen?  Fry has made the newspapers numerous times since arriving in the year 3000, so I'm sure that Phil would have heard of it.

Personally, I think Phil just wanted to die and not be cloned.  After all, notice how there are no presidents after Clinton to have their heads in a jar.  Perhaps the procedure isn't thought of highly.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #10 on: 04-19-2004 18:43 »

Or we could all just go with the greatest answer of all: Nobody cares.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #11 on: 04-19-2004 20:35 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Or we could all just go with the greatest answer of all: Nobody cares.

I'll go with that.

Dr. Morberg

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« Reply #12 on: 04-19-2004 20:39 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
Personally, I think Phil just wanted to die and not be cloned.  After all, notice how there are no presidents after Clinton to have their heads in a jar.  Perhaps the procedure isn't thought of highly.

That's not true. There are many unnamed presidents in the hall of presidents. Jesse Ventura is in there too. Maybe Phil Fry is flying through space fighting monsters and teaching alien women to love.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #13 on: 04-19-2004 20:39 »

Maybe he died before the head-in-the-jar thing was created. I dunno.
DavidCohens1fan

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« Reply #14 on: 04-19-2004 21:16 »

^No, because as someone mentioned earlier, they had people who lived before him in jars...not only Nixon, but Washington and Lincoln!

I think he wanted to be buried with his 7-leaf clover, which couldnt happen if your a head. Basically, he was on top of the world when he died, and he wanted to be remembered for that.

Too bad Nixon couldn't take the quiet RIP
tom123

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« Reply #15 on: 04-19-2004 21:25 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
But if Phil's head is still alive somewhere, wouldn't he have heard of his uncle being unfrozen? Fry has made the newspapers numerous times since arriving in the year 3000, so I'm sure that Phil would have heard of it.
Sure, he may have heard of his uncle, but as a head in a jar how can he get to him? Walk?
Zeep

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« Reply #16 on: 04-19-2004 21:28 »

Ever notice how there's no heads in jars from AFTER our time, now? My guess is that they stared cloning a handful of people, then stopped, deciding that the technology was useless.

Spacedal11

Space Pope
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« Reply #17 on: 04-19-2004 21:28 »

Really. But it would be interesting for Fry to have 2 living reletives. But in wonder, for example if Lucy Liu's head was the age that she is now than why isn't she old looking? I mean 1000 years is a long time, did they take the old heads to the Fountain of Youth before they preserved the heads?
Beamer

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« Reply #18 on: 04-19-2004 21:35 »

Zeep - just because we haven't seen them doesn't mean they don't exist. Every time a head shows up, it just happens to be from the 20th century - not to mention the fact that whenever they walk into the head museum, they always go to the 20th century section. We just haven't seen any other parts of the head museum.
Neil McNeil

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« Reply #19 on: 04-19-2004 21:38 »

It was those lazy animators and script writers taking short cuts where ever they can.........also, luck of fryish was a fair way into the series 3 if i'm not mistaken so it was never thought of or alternatively it was just never shown
newhook_1

Urban Legend
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« Reply #20 on: 04-19-2004 21:51 »

I've always wondered why the celebraty heads just don't simply buy robot bodies. It seemed fairly easy for Nixon to attach his head to Bender's body.
Beamer

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« Reply #21 on: 04-19-2004 22:24 »

Because the bodies would take up too much space, and the head museum needs plenty of space.
Spineless

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« Reply #22 on: 04-20-2004 01:43 »

Perhaps that was his only bit of bad luck?  tongue
deathknight

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« Reply #23 on: 04-20-2004 02:40 »

Some people are too cool that they respect them by leaving them dead. seriously that was an awsome episode - second saddest episode ever  frown
Teral

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« Reply #24 on: 04-20-2004 17:33 »
« Last Edit on: 04-20-2004 17:33 »

Maybe Phillip Fry Jr disgraced himself later in life, and wasn't deemed worthy of becoming a head-in-jar.

The statue and internet-movie was made before the incident that brought his downfall.

Don't ask me what he did that was so horribly. I just give out balonium answers.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #25 on: 04-20-2004 17:42 »

 
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Originally posted by Zeep:
Ever notice how there's no heads in jars from AFTER our time, now? My guess is that they stared cloning a handful of people, then stopped, deciding that the technology was useless.


Or maybe there was absolutely no-one of celebrity interest between the early 21st century and the late 30th century worth putting in a jar?
Digital Dragon

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« Reply #26 on: 04-20-2004 17:43 »

I don't really see an issue here, not everyone who has done important things has been shown as a head in a jar. Some people are preserved, some aren't, Phillip wasn't. Simple.
Teral

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« Reply #27 on: 04-20-2004 17:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
 Or maybe there was absolutely no-one of celebrity interest between the early 21st century and the late 30th century worth putting in a jar?

Considering the popularity of reality shows giving nobodies their 15 minutes in the spotlight, that's not such a crazy idea.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #28 on: 04-20-2004 18:10 »

I gotta question, why does no one visit Delta-V's Smallville thread in "It's gotta tv", and also that my cats smell nice.


Watch Arrested Development at
8:30pm on FOX!
Teral

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« Reply #29 on: 04-20-2004 18:36 »

Because noone is interested in discussing said show?
boingo2000

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #30 on: 04-20-2004 18:42 »
« Last Edit on: 04-20-2004 18:42 »

 
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From Raging Bender:

George Foreman: Interesting sidenote: as a head without a body, I envy the dead!
Rich Little as Howard Cosell: No argument here.

Apparently, being a head in a jar is an uvenviable position.  Philip J. Fry's lucky clover must have kept him from this bleak fate.
Mouse On Venus

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #31 on: 04-20-2004 18:44 »

Maybe that's it. After all, ol' Tricky Dick did refer to being a head in a jar as "a sad, lonely life" in A Head In The Polls. So perhaps the truly great figures in society have the privilege of not being kept alive in jars.
Lrrr_2004
Starship Captain
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« Reply #32 on: 04-20-2004 19:06 »
« Last Edit on: 06-10-2004 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Because noone is interested in discussing said show?

d'oh
KAH

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« Reply #33 on: 04-25-2004 05:49 »
« Last Edit on: 04-25-2004 05:49 »

I like the idea of him living a new life on mars or someplace and only his body being in the ground, which makes what Fry sees when he opens it to put the clover back in even more disturbing. It would also take away from the emotion involved but I do like the idea of being able to attend your own funeral. Hey I'm a bending unit! WOO!
VoVat

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« Reply #34 on: 04-25-2004 14:03 »

Maybe Philip Fry couldn't afford the head-in-a-jar procedure, and the government didn't want to pay for it.  (I assume it's the government that pays for the Presidents' heads to be preserved.)  Have we ever seen another astronaut's head in a jar?

As for only modern celebrities' heads appearing in jars, that's true for the most part, but not entirely.  The 29something Yankees' heads were all preserved in the same jar at the Blernsball Hall of Fame.
Zeep

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« Reply #35 on: 04-26-2004 10:41 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Maybe Phillip Fry Jr disgraced himself later in life, and wasn't deemed worthy of becoming a head-in-jar.

The statue and internet-movie was made before the incident that brought his downfall.

Don't ask me what he did that was so horribly. I just give out balonium answers.

so, *after* he was buried at the cemetary, he did something horrible? did his headless zombie get up and do something awful, so they put his head back on and put him back in his grave? if so, why didn't his zombie get up and attack fry, leela, and bender?

alenacat
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« Reply #36 on: 04-26-2004 11:10 »

This is one of the reasons why LotF doesn't rank that high on my favourites list. Plot holes and I'm left asking "why didn't they notice it before?" for quite a few things.
Zeep

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« Reply #37 on: 04-26-2004 11:13 »

well, i didn't really notice many plot holes when i watched it. but then again, i'm not the kind of person to do that. i only start picking up mistakes and plot holes the second or third viewing.
Lrrr_2004
Starship Captain
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« Reply #38 on: 04-28-2004 19:11 »

I pick up plot holes after ten years of watching an episode.
EvilLunch

Professor
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« Reply #39 on: 04-28-2004 19:36 »

Also, if Philip was still alive in any repect, Leela would have known it in the first episode, I suppose.
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