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TurongaLeela

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« on: 04-17-2004 01:04 »

ok. this is just a thought, but do you think teh creators of the episode "Roswell that Ends Well" were particularly fond of bttf? i noticed a number of parallels... is it just me?
eggsandwich

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« Reply #1 on: 04-17-2004 01:29 »

Question: What's Bttf?
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« Reply #2 on: 04-17-2004 01:36 »

 
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Originally posted by eggsandwich:
Question: What's Bttf?

I'm guessing that it stands for Back to the Future.
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« Reply #3 on: 04-17-2004 01:40 »

Well there are some simularities, like the professors not wanting to change history (except the professor in BTTF is called "Doc" )

I just got the BTTF DVDs, good stuff.
eggsandwich

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« Reply #4 on: 04-17-2004 01:49 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 I'm guessing that it stands for Back to the Future.

Ah! I see, I've always hated them movies ..  So I've got nothing to contribute to this thread, yay.

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FishyJoe

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« Reply #5 on: 04-17-2004 02:48 »

Someone...hating Back to the Future? I am shocked and angered. I seriously don't think I've ever met anyone who didn't enjoy them.
Gocad

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« Reply #6 on: 04-17-2004 03:19 »

now that someone has mentioned it, the zillion clocks which you see during the timewarp sequence in RTEW do remind me of the clock in doc's laboratory.
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« Reply #7 on: 04-17-2004 03:20 »

Not liking Back to the Future certainly is rather strange  hmpf

People shouldn't use acronyms, if they mean "Back to the Future", say "Back to the Future" not Bttf, especially in the thread title/first post  no no
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« Reply #8 on: 04-17-2004 03:58 »

Helps to note also that this entire episode is a compilation of like 5 different original and next generation Star Trek episodes.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #9 on: 04-17-2004 04:11 »

Not liking the Back to the Future sequels is understandable enough (don't get me wrong either, I still like 'em).  But to not like the first one....that's the kind of crime that should be punishable by death.  wink

Anyways, I think "Roswell That Ends Well" just mirrored a lot of different time-travel stories and the cliches in them.  I think BTTF was one of the inspirations, but its not a straight on BTTF parody.
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« Reply #10 on: 04-17-2004 04:12 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
Someone...hating Back to the Future? I am shocked and angered. I seriously don't think I've ever met anyone who didn't enjoy them.

Second.

I didn't really see too many similarities myself.
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« Reply #11 on: 04-17-2004 04:43 »

The cat clock in Roswell That Ends Well is almost certainly a reference to the clock which appears at the beginning of the first Back to the Future.
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« Reply #12 on: 04-17-2004 09:35 »

How is not liking 'Back to the Future' strange? The movies were not my all time favourite to watch, and really pay much attention to. I never really got the whole hoo-haa surrounding it.
sheep555

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« Reply #13 on: 04-17-2004 09:41 »

Even if you didn't like it, it did have some movie industry firsts, such as proving you could shoot two blockbuster sequels back to back without a loss of quality (if you considered them to be good).
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« Reply #14 on: 04-17-2004 11:16 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
Someone...hating Back to the Future? I am shocked and angered. I seriously don't think I've ever met anyone who didn't enjoy them.

They've got Michael J. Fox, Christopher Lloyd, Lea Thompson, Crispin Glover, and a time machine built out of a DeLorean.  Seriously, what's not to enjoy?

 
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Originally posted by Tweek:
People shouldn't use acronyms, if they mean "Back to the Future", say "Back to the Future" not Bttf, especially in the thread title/first post   no no

Yeah, that would have been helpful.  It would also be helpful if this thread was in General Discussion, instead of It's got a TV!  Don't you agree, Mr. Moderator?

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
The cat clock in Roswell That Ends Well is almost certainly a reference to the clock which appears at the beginning of the first Back to the Future.

Either that, or it's just a reference to the fact that those clocks were popular in the 40s and 50s.

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« Reply #15 on: 04-17-2004 11:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Gocad:
now that someone has mentioned it, the zillion clocks which you see during the timewarp sequence in RTEW do remind me of the clock in doc's laboratory.


The clocks thing was a reference to a Brazillian Show about Time travel. You may also have seen references to it in the Simpsons Haloween Special.
David A

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« Reply #16 on: 04-17-2004 11:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Col. Klink:
 
The clocks thing was a reference to a Brazillian Show about Time travel. You may also have seen references to it in the Simpsons Haloween Special.

I think you mean that it was a reference to Terry Gilliam's Brazil.
tom123

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« Reply #17 on: 04-17-2004 12:01 »

I didn't think there were any references or whatever before., but you guys are making me think.
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« Reply #18 on: 04-17-2004 12:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Pitt Clemens:
Helps to note also that this entire episode is a compilation of like 5 different original and next generation Star Trek episodes.

Plus an episode of DS9 when they travel back to the original Tribbles episode. One thing i found amusing was that Doctor Bashir was worried about maybe having to become his own ancestor by doing "the nasty in da pasty"


Or as most scientists call it: "Past-Nastification"

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« Reply #19 on: 04-17-2004 14:07 »

Hate Back o the Future?
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« Reply #20 on: 04-17-2004 16:13 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 It would also be helpful if this thread was in General Discussion, instead of It's got a TV! Don't you agree, Mr. Moderator?

I guess so  tongue

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« Reply #21 on: 04-17-2004 16:27 »

In my opinion, I didn't see any similarities in BTTF and Rosewell that Ends Well. The only thing that I saw that was similar, was that the professor didn't want to change history.  hmpf
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« Reply #22 on: 04-17-2004 20:28 »

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
The cat clock in Roswell That Ends Well is almost certainly a reference to the clock which appears at the beginning of the first Back to the Future.

Nah, those clocks are nothing special, they usued to be common as dirt when I was a little kid.
eggsandwich

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« Reply #23 on: 04-18-2004 01:47 »

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
Even if you didn't like it, it did have some movie industry firsts, such as proving you could shoot two blockbuster sequels back to back without a loss of quality (if you considered them to be good).

Yes, I know they were done well. But, I never said the movies were crap (because they arent), I just said they arent my favourite to watch.

Also, Bender Waffles; there are some more simalarities (sic), but I wouldnt want to tread deeply into it. There are many references in Futurama episodes, Back to the Future is just one example. We cant make a thread each time a Futurama episode pays a homage or references a movie or tv show, can we now.
MartyMcFly

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« Reply #24 on: 04-18-2004 08:01 »

Not liking the BTTF movies? What kind of person are you?  big grin

There are some similarities between BTTF and RTEW:
-In BTTF1, Marty pushes George out of the way of a car. In RTEW, Fry pushes Enos out of the way of a jeep.
-When the ship goes back in time, we see the calendar on the ship going backwards. Some of the dates are BTTF dates (although I don't think this was an intentional reference).
-In BTTF, Marty has to make sure his parents get together so he is born. In RTEW, Fry tries to get his grandparents to have a baby so he will still exist.
-The clock cat may have been a slight reference, although they were quite common.
-In BTTF, Marty has one chance to get back to the future - when the lightning bolt strikes the clocktower at 10.04pm. In RTEW, the crew have one chance to get back to the 31st century.
-In BTTF, Doc doesn't want to change history, but later says "What the hell.". In RTEW, the Professor doesn't want to change history, but later says "Screw history!".
-This may be pushing it, but in RTEW Enos is killed in a nuclear blast. In the first draft of BTTF, Marty went back to 1982 (he went to 1952 in the first draft, not 1955) using a nuclear blast to power the time machine.

I'd say that the writers had BTTF in mind for parts of the episode. They may be fans who wanted to refernce it, or maybe a reference was inevitable in a time travel episode.  big grin

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« Reply #25 on: 04-18-2004 08:17 »

It seems to me that Futurama is almost always making fun of or referencing the 80's.

I noticed a couple of BttF bits in the show but hardly as much as you guys, maybe I should watch some more?

Ruddy good films though!  wink
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« Reply #26 on: 04-18-2004 11:43 »

I can see how a peeler named Marty McFly can definitely rebel against all the "Back to the Future" haters, but seriously those movies were great! Didn't they like introduce the awesome idea of a hoverboard? If not, they still used that very well in the movie. I was so jealous of Marty, I wanted a hoverboard!
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« Reply #27 on: 04-18-2004 12:43 »

 
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Originally posted by MartyMcFly:
Not liking the BTTF movies? What kind of person are you?   big grin

There are some similarities between BTTF and RTEW:
-In BTTF1, Marty pushes George out of the way of a car. In RTEW, Fry pushes Enos out of the way of a jeep.
-When the ship goes back in time, we see the calendar on the ship going backwards. Some of the dates are BTTF dates (although I don't think this was an intentional reference).
-In BTTF, Marty has to make sure his parents get together so he is born. In RTEW, Fry tries to get his grandparents to have a baby so he will still exist.
-The clock cat may have been a slight reference, although they were quite common.
-In BTTF, Marty has one chance to get back to the future - when the lightning bolt strikes the clocktower at 10.04pm. In RTEW, the crew have one chance to get back to the 31st century.
-In BTTF, Doc doesn't want to change history, but later says "What the hell.". In RTEW, the Professor doesn't want to change history, but later says "Screw history!".
-This may be pushing it, but in RTEW Enos is killed in a nuclear blast. In the first draft of BTTF, Marty went back to 1982 (he went to 1952 in the first draft, not 1955) using a nuclear blast to power the time machine.

I'd say that the writers had BTTF in mind for parts of the episode. They may be fans who wanted to refernce it, or maybe a reference was inevitable in a time travel episode.   big grin


....wow  eek  . You are a better man than me MartyMcFly.
SwanMan3000

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« Reply #28 on: 04-18-2004 13:37 »

They've got Michael J. Fox, Christopher Lloyd, Lea Thompson, Crispin Glover, and a time machine built out of a DeLorean. Seriously, what's not to enjoy?

i dont really like it that much, im not a big futuristic fan. i like futurama dispite that really.



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« Reply #29 on: 04-18-2004 14:05 »

 
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Originally posted by Gocad:
now that someone has mentioned it, the zillion clocks which you see during the timewarp sequence in RTEW do remind me of the clock in doc's laboratory.

that actually reminded me more of that show with the dog and boy that go through time ( some cartoon ) they did a cameo in the simpsons holloween episode where home breaks the toaster and when fixing it it sends him back in time to the time of dinosaurs and he kills lots stuff ( i think im getting sidetracked :P )

anyway i do belive that is the origin for the clocks when they go though time

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« Reply #30 on: 04-18-2004 15:27 »

SwanMan, only the second BTTF movie was particularly "futuristic"; they went to the past in the other two.  I guess time travel is a pretty science-fictiony concept in general, though.

SoloFlyer, you're thinking of Peabody and Sherman, from the Rocky & Bullwinkle show.  I've seen a few episodes, and don't recall clocks appearing when they'd use the Wayback Machine, but I could be forgetting something.
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« Reply #31 on: 04-18-2004 16:40 »

Back to the future... argh... it's like drowning, but without the happy outcome...
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« Reply #32 on: 04-18-2004 16:55 »
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I guess that being able to recall watching "Peabody's Improbable History" on TV, in black/white, REALLY dates some of us  big grin

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Xmpel

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« Reply #33 on: 04-18-2004 17:10 »

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
 Plus an episode of DS9 when they travel back to the original Tribbles episode.

Stating the obvious in a very dry and unfunny way: Could it be a reference to the Star Trek episode where they actually go back to The Roswell air base in the year 1949 or am I just totally out there ?

I'm dissapointed in Pitt Clemens for not having posted that already

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« Reply #34 on: 04-19-2004 03:22 »

I think Xmpel might be onto something here! I've never seen anything star trek as ive always considered it ultimately nerdy (I know, its kinda hypocritical) but yeah that sounds right cos the writers seem to love star trek. Highly possible, nay probable!
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« Reply #35 on: 04-19-2004 14:04 »
« Last Edit on: 04-19-2004 14:04 »

 
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Originally posted by Xmpel:
 Stating the obvious in a very dry and unfunny way: Could it be a reference to the Star Trek episode where they actually go back to The Roswell air base in the year 1949 or am I just totally out there ?

I'm dissapointed in Pitt Clemens for not having posted that already


The difference being "Little Green Men" was annoying with plotholes the size of Big Ben (note how virtually all Ferengi episodes are annoying and forgetable), while "Roswell That Ends Well" was enjoyable and funny.

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« Reply #36 on: 04-19-2004 14:11 »

Yeah, "Little Green Men" was kind of a bore. But since it paved way for RTEW I still like it and haven't forgotten it.
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« Reply #37 on: 04-20-2004 20:44 »

Hey Marty! One more parallel-
the cafe in RTEW is just like Lou's cafe in BTTF!

Ok, so someone mentioned it to me... but I was disappointed that no one mentioned it in this thread yet!  big grin
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« Reply #38 on: 04-20-2004 20:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
 (note how virtually all Ferengi episodes are annoying and forgetable), while "Roswell That Ends Well" was enjoyable and funny.

Know why?

4 words.

Nasty in the Pasty.  cool

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