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Jeffbot

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« on: 04-02-2004 16:29 »

I realize that the major sticking point for getting new episodes of Futurama on Adult Swim is the cost.  However, if Adult Swim would produce fifteen minute episodes (as they do with their other original programming), they could cut their expenses in half, and we'd still get our fix.

Has this been brought up before?  Does anyone have the mailing address to Cartoon Network?  I'd like to suggest that to them.

I'm in a bad mood...understand?
- Rhinox
Y_L_B

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« Reply #1 on: 04-02-2004 16:30 »
« Last Edit on: 04-02-2004 16:30 »

They don't have the rights to the show, Jeffbot, FOX does, so that'd be impossible. FOX wants to squeze every penny they can out of Futurama, they don't want to sell the rights.

Anyway, Welcome to PEEL!


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Jeffbot

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« Reply #2 on: 04-02-2004 16:43 »

If they really wanted to squeeze every penny out of Futurama, they'd air new episodes.  It's money in the bank - that's right, a bank full of money!

I talked with Bill Morrison at a convention last year...he said if Cartoon Network would make them an offer, they'd consider it (though I realize he doesn't speak for the company).

Thanks for the welcome!  Glad I found this site.
Dr. Morberg

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« Reply #3 on: 04-02-2004 17:22 »

Why the hell would you want fifteen minute episodes? They already have to cram a large-scale space adventure stories into 22 minutes, 11 minutes would never work. The only reason that their original programs work is because they have abrupt endings and have little to no plot.

Also, welcome to PEEL
J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #4 on: 04-02-2004 17:26 »

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Adult Swim doesn't have enough money to pay for something as expensive as Futurama.
David A

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« Reply #5 on: 04-02-2004 17:32 »

 
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Originally posted by Jeffbot:
However, if Adult Swim would produce fifteen minute episodes (as they do with their other original programming), they could cut their expenses in half, and we'd still get our fix.

You mean those Williams Street shows, like Harvey Birdman and Aquateen Hunger Force?  Oh, hell no.  If they did that to Futurama I'd have to kill someone.

Seriously, I'd rather not have any new episodes than have some bastardized, low-budget version of Futurama.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Bender + Zoidy

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« Reply #6 on: 04-02-2004 17:59 »

FOX may own Futurama but they own Family Guy too and new eps.are coming on CN
futuramafreak

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« Reply #7 on: 04-02-2004 18:12 »

Well Family Guy costs a lot less.
J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #8 on: 04-02-2004 18:12 »

Family Guy costs Less than Futurama
futuramafreak

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« Reply #9 on: 04-02-2004 18:13 »

We said the same thing at the same time.  Weeeird.
leelaholic

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« Reply #10 on: 04-02-2004 18:15 »

It's an omen!!
bankrupt

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« Reply #11 on: 04-02-2004 18:26 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 You mean those Williams Street shows, like Harvey Birdman and Aquateen Hunger Force?  Oh, hell no.  If they did that to Futurama I'd have to kill someone.

Seriously, I'd rather not have any new episodes than have some bastardized, low-budget version of Futurama.


Such true words.  I don't want to see half-assed Futurama either

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but while CN will be showing the new Family Guy episodes, FOX is putting up most of the money.  I think both Futurama and Family Guy are too expensive for CN to do on their own even if they owned the full license.  I've heard that Family Guy costs almost as much to make as Futurama (though this doesn't make sense to me given the amount of effects used in Futurama, the voice talents, etc.).  For reasons I don't understand/refuse to acknowledge, Family Guy is selling better than Futurama.  FOX is going to put their cash into the show they think will bring the biggest return, Family Guy.  If the new eps. bring in the bucks FOX might be tempted to try the same with Futurama.  I think the likelyhood of this happening is very, very slim.  I wouldn't count on it.

Dr. Morberg

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« Reply #12 on: 04-02-2004 18:26 »

You have entered an area adjacent to a location... You have entered... The Scary Door.

Anyway, Futurama needs the full 1.3? million dollars to he the same good animation, so cutting the budget wouldn't be good.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #13 on: 04-02-2004 18:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Jeffbot:
I realize that the major sticking point for getting new episodes of Futurama on Adult Swim is the cost.  However, if Adult Swim would produce fifteen minute episodes (as they do with their other original programming), they could cut their expenses in half, and we'd still get our fix.

Actually 22 minute episodes would be more cost effective than 15 minute ones.

Besides - 15 minute shows would never work for a show like Futurama, it's just too complex.
Venus

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« Reply #14 on: 04-02-2004 18:56 »

i agree. They have problems fitting everything they want into the 22 minute eps. 15 minutes would just be impossible.
bankrupt

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« Reply #15 on: 04-02-2004 23:29 »

David X. says many times in the various DVD commentaries that they had to cut this or that to fit the 22 min.  I know he's said that sometimes the stuff they cut was enough for another episode!
No, 15 minutes would not work at all
Jeffbot

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« Reply #16 on: 04-05-2004 10:23 »

Thanks for the replies, everyone.  Just posturing on my part, I suppose.  I realize that 15 minutes wouldn't be near enough time, but I'm going through Futurama withdrawl and at this point, would probably take whatever was offered.
KVA

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« Reply #17 on: 04-05-2004 13:24 »

For me, even 15 minutes will be great. I'll gladly watch anything because I haven't seen new Futurama for too long.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #18 on: 04-05-2004 14:02 »
« Last Edit on: 04-05-2004 14:02 »

As much as I would love to see new Futurama episodes (anywhere, even a spanish speaking channel, i'll figure out what they're saying), I seriously doubt that would happen, given Fox's attitude about the whole thing.  They're evil and they need to be stopped.  If they do put it back on Fox, they'll probally make the same mistakes, like pre-empting it for football.  Just give the rights to the right man, Matt Groening, he'll know what to do.


BOW TO LORD GROENING!    evil laugh
KVA

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« Reply #19 on: 04-05-2004 14:16 »

YEAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERYONE BOW TO LORD GROENING !!!!!!!!
DELTAWOLF

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« Reply #20 on: 04-05-2004 14:27 »

CN want's to put Futurama back in production
the fox broadcasting company is to damn evil
to let it-go.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #21 on: 04-05-2004 14:48 »

Sorry to avert from the topic, but this has to do with you DELTAWOLF.
How does the title system work?  You and I both have 2 stars, but you're Delivery Boy, and I'm Crustacean?  And does the title go up with the longer your here, or the more posts you enter?
Kryten

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« Reply #22 on: 04-05-2004 14:59 »

Everything you always wanted to know about ranks
David A

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« Reply #23 on: 04-05-2004 15:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Lrrr_2004:
How does the title system work?  You and I both have 2 stars, but you're Delivery Boy, and I'm Crustacean?  And does the title go up with the longer your here, or the more posts you enter?

Please read the PEEL FAQ.  It explains the ranking system, as well as providing some other useful information.

While you're at it, you might want to read the Rules of the Road.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
KiKiX

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« Reply #24 on: 04-05-2004 15:34 »

I love Futurama and I really want new episodes but cheap 15 minute ones, forget it! That would probably end a disaster.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #25 on: 04-05-2004 15:35 »

It would be stupid to have the show back with only 15 minute eppisodes... our only hope of getting our show back is through Fox... they controll if the show can come back or not... even if it is through selling it to Cartoon Network (if they decide to spend A LOT of money).
FOX is our only hope... but they're too stuck up with retarded reality shows.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #26 on: 04-05-2004 20:16 »

FOX does prefer shows along the lines of "World's Blankiest Blank". Oh and "the simple life" *shudders*
shoopbender
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« Reply #27 on: 04-05-2004 20:32 »

We won't settle for nothing! They'll give us full episodes or else! We talk about this all of the time.
KVA

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« Reply #28 on: 04-06-2004 10:46 »

I really like this discussion. People are arguing about 15-minute episodes like they are real and being translated on CN.
Btw, I have an idea about 15 minute episodes: maybe they can come in pairs and have one storyline for both  two episodes.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #29 on: 04-06-2004 14:28 »

Na, two parters always make me feel angry. Just tell the story in one, great 30 minute episode.
Venus

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« Reply #30 on: 04-06-2004 15:51 »

i love two parters, but only when those two parts add up to an hour or more of television.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #31 on: 04-06-2004 17:10 »

Thank you (your name here), I have read the rules of road.

I'm glad Matt Groening is going to be on CN all next week (i'm pretty sure) and tell us his favorite episodes of Futurama.  That should be cool.
NoAPOlogies

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« Reply #32 on: 04-07-2004 00:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
FOX does prefer shows along the lines of "World's Blankiest Blank". Oh and "the simple life" *shudders*

Or "The Swan". As a member of the Fucking Ugly (or Fugly community) I feel insulted by this show    up yours
Venus

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« Reply #33 on: 04-07-2004 00:51 »

not me. I'd take free plastic surgery in a heartbeat.
David A

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« Reply #34 on: 04-07-2004 10:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
not me. I'd take free plastic surgery in a heartbeat.

Pffft.  You don't need it, unless you mean cuteness reduction surgery.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #35 on: 04-07-2004 10:10 »

As much I would like Futurama back. Producing 15 minute episodes just won't do the job. Either 23 minute episodes or nothing.
DrJohnZ

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« Reply #36 on: 04-07-2004 14:22 »

agreed...
Futurama is to complex and requires its 30 minute time slot on FOX, CN or whatever.
SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #37 on: 04-07-2004 15:44 »

What about extending Futurama to an hour, or 45 minutes, like Farscape was, or Enterprise and 24 are right now? Numerous times throughout all 3 of the DVDs that are out in the US - ie, the only sets I own - has Cohen or someone else explained how they usually had to cut an episode down from around an hour into 22 minutes. Shortening it to fifteen minutes would be ghastly, and not just because that would mean 4-minute blocks of commercials.

What about the Sci-Fi channel, or even Comedy Central? While Cartoon Network may seem a better fit because Futurama is animated, it is very sci-fi...although Sci-Fi did cancel Farscape because it cost 1 million per episode--

--And for Comedy Central, same reasoning, just switch "it is very sci-fi' with 'it is a comedic show." And with Comedy Central, they could then advertise an hour-and-a-half long block of shows - maybe the ad campaign would go-a-sumpthin' like this: "Futurama, followed by South Park, Followed by Chappelle's Show, followed by The Daily Show, followed by Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn! If we didn't show commercials, you'd be stealing Grandpa's bedpan! Sorry, Old Wrinkly!" or "...If we didn't show commercials, you'd swear these shows were smart!"...

Longshots, perhaps, but at least they were suggested...
 

     

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KVA

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« Reply #38 on: 04-07-2004 16:17 »

Such big episodes will be TOO costly to produce. That will never happen. Even 22 minute eps cost more than 1 million.
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #39 on: 04-07-2004 16:59 »

LET FOX BE DAMNED TO THE DEEPEST BOIL IN HELL!IG MURDOCK HAS A HEART AND ANY SIMPATHY AT ALL,HE WOULD BRING FUTURAMA BACK!!  mad   mad   mad   mad   mad  :mad
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