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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by PCC Fred: Teral, I get where you're coming from. Now get where I'm coming from.
First of all, European DVD sales are largely irrelevant to FOX's decision. Family Guy's first season DVD was released in Europe yonks ago, but it wasn't till it did well in American sales that FOX stood up and took notice. And you've said yourself, when the original petition was handed in, only the European DVDs had been released. Which bring us back to the fact that Family Guy have done a lot better in the DVD sales than Futurama (no, I can't explain that either. ). At least I haven't seen any evidence on the contrary. You make a good point about Futurama's initial cancellation getting a lot of publicity. I'll admit, we're not going to get that publicity again. However the support of the major Futurama websites would still give the petition more exposure than PEEL alone. On that note, read the latest update on TLZ. However the creative team having split up is irrelevant. Family Guy will have to rebuild their team from scratch for the new series, but you know that they will, even if it means bringing in some new faces.
I just fear the inevitable dip in quality would be more than the show could handle. According to you, Futurama costs 1-1.5 million per episode. I read somewhere that Family Guy costs 1 million per episode. Futurama's more expensive to make than Family Guy, but I wonder if some people have exaggerated by how much.
If FOX are going to reverse their decision on Futurama, now's the time. In fact, now's probably a better time that when the show was actually put on hiatus. CN ratings are good, US DVD sales are high, and Family Guy's resurrection is fresh in everyone's minds.
Will Zeep's petition make a difference? Probably not. But it's not like we have anything to lose, and at least Zeep is trying to do something constructive, unlike the people on the sidelines who aren't actually doing anything themselves, but are more than ready to deride Zeep's efforts. Again, I'm not attacking anyone just pointing out the obstacles you're facing.
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Dr. Morberg
Professor
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The first one is really, really old, and was just never given to fox, it was made around the time Futurama's cancellation was reported. Hence "save" instead of "bring back". The second one doesn't even matter, since it only has 10 signatures. The third one is the one they've all been talking about.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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good lookin out Lucky Clover!
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PCC Fred
Space Pope
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@Teral: First of all, cheers for mentioning the petition on TLZ. I agree there's a risk that putting together a new creative team could affect the quality of the show. But petition or not, if Futurama returns it's a simple fact that a new team would have to be assembled. Who knows? The show might get even better. It's a gamble. I know we're facing a lot of obstacles. But like I said, we have nothing to lose. The worst that can happen is Futurama doesn't return, which is basically where we are now.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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True. Even incredibly bad episodes are better than what we have now.
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Dr. Morberg
Professor
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Why Must I be a Crustacean in Love is not an episode that people don't generally like. It has an 88% at CGEF and is ranked #15 at The Leela Zone. Maybe you don't like it, but other people certainly did.
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SlaytanicMaggot
Professor
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« Reply #181 on: 04-01-2004 20:29 »
« Last Edit on: 04-01-2004 20:29 »
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CGEF got an interview with David X. Cohen before, right? maybe someone at CGEF could print out and send David X. Cohen - or Matt Groening, or both - BOTH of these petitions.
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SlaytanicMaggot
Professor
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how would you react if two people with a lot of clout and a fervrent fanbase walked into your office and acidentally destroyed your desk just by plopping down two stacks of paper - then told you these were petitions to bring back something you'd cut?
Course, I would renew the show with the original staff and stuff, but again, it is FOX - but since we just sent them the first petition through the mail and they ignored it, what if someone on the inside who had access to the top brass at the company brought em in with them? It'd be like....the Richard Clarke Effect, except without the vicious character assination that Karl Rove always deploys...
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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yeah, but that is just comedic jokes towards the home network. Lots of shows do it and its been going on for years
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot: but since we just sent them the first petition through the mail and they ignored it, what if someone on the inside who had access to the top brass at the company brought em in with them? Actually the first petition was printed out, neatly wrapped and hand-delivered to Matt Groening's ofice at FOX. They then in turn gave the petition to the FOX execs. Maybe not Matt himself, but someone from his office. Then again that might just have been counter-productive: "Ueagh, is that you Matt, again yabbering about Futurama ... and you brought nerds! Get back to work!"
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Johnty24
Poppler
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Where I live, Futurama is very popular. Go petition.
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moogledr
Crustacean
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« Reply #194 on: 04-03-2004 08:32 »
« Last Edit on: 04-03-2004 08:32 by [-mArc-] »
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Originally posted by Zeep: well, we're up to almost 600 after almosst 5 days. so we're getting about 120 per day.but it'll still take a large number of years before we equal the original petition, at this rate.
we need more help from websites!
Agreed. I'm going to start e-mailing it to webmasters. If you've already signed, then send the link to the webmasters of good Futurama sites. And frankly, I think it's most important that we get the support from this one. Everyone please encourage CGEF to support Zeep's petition:
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moogledr
Crustacean
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Originally posted by [-mArc-]: Shut it. I said I don't see the point and I don't like to be bothered by email.QUOTE]
The point is that it might help by even .00000000001%. Somehow you see a point in posting to all these futurama fans that they can buy a slurm can online again, but not something that might *help* bring the show back on the air?
I WISH I was in your place and my mailbox was clogged to complete capacity with e-mails from idiots with poor grammar and nothing better to do or write than "Futrama rox0rz!" just so that I could be in your position of helping it along.
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