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SpaceCase

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« on: 02-21-2004 14:08 »

Hello All,
I don't believe this particular question has been asked before:
Assuming Futurama had not been prematurely how would you have preferred that the various and sundry plot lines had been developed?
So far as I'm concerned, anything is fair game: Leela's origins: The how's & why's behind why Fry is in the 31st century: The Amy & Kif plot line: Why Hermes hates Zoidberg: Richard Nixon's head pulling shenanigans: Morbo & Linda: And, too many more to mention.

Let's hear it.

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Oh, and if this has been brought up before; 1) I apologise in advance - I didn't find it.
2) Please point me to it.
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Thanks.   smile
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #1 on: 02-21-2004 14:21 »

leelas origins should have been left a mystery i think. the rest of the show is quite fine with me.
Pig+Wool~Sheep

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« Reply #2 on: 02-21-2004 14:22 »

I personally think the Hermes/Zoidberg thing should be left a mystery forever. Basically, I think everyone hates Zoidberg to some degree, and Hermes just takes it to more of an extreme.

Personally I'd just like to have seen it carry on at pretty much the same pace it was going with no major changes and a hell of a lot more Zapp Brannigan. Maybe some more Scruffy, too.
Pig+Wool~Sheep

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« Reply #3 on: 02-21-2004 14:23 »
« Last Edit on: 02-21-2004 14:23 »

 
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Originally posted by ActionLaPointe:
leelas origins should have been left a mystery i think. the rest of the show is quite fine with me.

Spoiler alert?



EDIT: Sorry for the double post!

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VoVat

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« Reply #4 on: 02-21-2004 15:24 »

Since they'd gotten up to 3004 on the show (in "Bend Her," anyway), they'd pretty much have to do another election episode.  Nixon would probably be re-elected, but I'm sure they could work in some good gags they didn't already do in "A Head in the Polls."

They'd definitely have to explain what Nibbler meant when he said Leela was "the other," but I guess that goes without saying.

Katrina and Xanthor (or whatever their names were) should reappear.  If Scruffy can be a semi-regular, so can they.

More flashbacks to the characters' respective pasts should have been done.

That's about all I can think of at the moment, but I'm sure I could think of more, given time.
superfryguy

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« Reply #5 on: 02-21-2004 15:48 »

Sorry to suggest the obvious, but I would have realy liked to have seen Fry finally make it to homebase with Leela, and maybe even win her love!

As for everything else, what about Mom corp taking over everything, as in the Futurama game? That would have been pretty cool...
canīt_read

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« Reply #6 on: 02-22-2004 18:43 »
« Last Edit on: 02-22-2004 18:43 »

-I think that another WMIBACIL-esque episode would most likely been a failure (very repetetive), but ya never know.

-Even though Qbert is the most hated character and Dwight could die without anyone noticing, it would have been interesting to see them grow up. Time does pass in the series, and they might have become much better liked as adults.

-In addition to that, what it would have been like to watch the Planet Express crew age (a very vague beginning to this in 'obsoletely fabulous'?). I always suspected that it would be revealed to Fry more obviously (if it wasn't clear already what with Farnsworth being 160) that in the future, people age much more slowly, but because Fry was born in the 20th century, he will age faster than all of his friends. That would have been a very interesting episode, though it is partly just my speculation.

-Amy and Kif. I hate them as a couple, but their relationship was still was in the middle of its development.

-I would have liked to have seen an episode where Leela sympathizes with Zapp. This is probably just me though, but maybe she could find a boyfriend who made her feel stupid?

   As for Hermes's hatred for Zoidberg, it's not really important. They just have two very different personalities.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #7 on: 02-23-2004 00:00 »
« Last Edit on: 02-23-2004 00:00 »

Hermes' hatred of Zoidberg is funny precisely because there's no explanation or reason for it.  To "explain" it would be to kill the joke entirely.  I would say Morbo and Linda are also better off not being developed at all.

I think that if the show wasn't in danger of being axed they should've held off a little longer on the explanation of Leela's past, or at least built up to it more beforehand.  "A Bicyclops Built For Two" (which I found to be too superficial) was the only time they even remotely explored the concept and what it would be like for Leela to not know her origin.  Leela's Homeworld is a fine episode regardless, and finally gets that whole concept right, but its a little too late in the sense that there wasn't much intrigue to that storyline preceeding that episode.
VoVat

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« Reply #8 on: 02-23-2004 16:01 »

I think something with Morbo's past, or at least an exploration of his home planet, might actually have been enjoyable.  I still sort of see what you mean, though; there are aspects to his character that shouldn't be explained away.  Something explaining, for instance, that Morbo really likes humans, but puts up a front to appease his own race, while it might make sense, would be pretty lame.  Part of Morbo's appeal is that his character really doesn't make sense.

As for characters growing up, what about Amy graduating from college?  Or are we supposed to assume that that's already happened?  When was the last time the show made a reference to Amy's being in school?
PCC Fred

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« Reply #9 on: 02-23-2004 17:55 »

 
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Originally posted by ActionLaPointe:
leelas origins should have been left a mystery i think.

I beg to differ.  I hate it when shows end prematurely and you're left with loose threads.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #10 on: 02-23-2004 18:30 »

Yeah, like who the father of Mom's sons was...
PCC Fred

Space Pope
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« Reply #11 on: 02-23-2004 18:44 »

Who IS the father of Mom's sons?  Farnsworth?  Wernstrum?  Officer Barbrady?

Seriously, I didn't consider the identity of their father to be a major plot point the way the series developed.  Had MG and DXC gone with the "PX crew working for Mom" idea, it might've entered into the story more.

However Leela's search for her parents was a key plot line in the series.  If that hadn't have been resolved by the end then I'd have felt cheated.
DanMan4040

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« Reply #12 on: 02-23-2004 22:31 »

I always thought the reason Hermes hated Zoidberg because Zoidberg sent him to that forced labor camp in HHRHGB.  That was when Hermes really started hating Zoidberg and he did curse him in that episode.
NoAPOlogies

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« Reply #13 on: 02-23-2004 23:29 »

I would personally like to see how everyone became who they are. I would like to know what Bender was like when he was bending gerters (sp), what Amy was like in college, Fry's past life before his pizza delievery boy career, when Zoidberg came to Earth (might be the most interesting) and Leela's hedonistic past.
nerdlingus

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« Reply #14 on: 02-24-2004 07:27 »

I keep hearing about Leela's past being quite a party, where is the evidence for this?

or have i not been paying enough attention to the show? I mean she drinks a few beers here and there, what else is there, she is seen as unimpulsive by the rest of the crew, so what gives?
PCC Fred

Space Pope
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« Reply #15 on: 02-24-2004 07:32 »

I remember her mentioning bumming around India for a year in "Leela's Homeworld".  I also remember a comment about her hedonistic past, but I can't remember which episode it was in.
Venus

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« Reply #16 on: 02-24-2004 13:01 »

she mentions her hedonistic past in TDTESS
Cloud 9

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« Reply #17 on: 02-24-2004 21:19 »
« Last Edit on: 02-24-2004 21:19 »

I liked the Hermes vs. Zoidberg thing. Did that ever come to a head? I only have seen seasons 1 and 2 (with an occasional from 3), so I wouldn't know. Regarding the Kif & Amy relationship, I might be biased,   big grin But I would've liked to have seen more, like an opposite to WTBR. (Unless that's been shown, too...) Curse these stupid delayed U.S. releases...  mad

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DotheBartman

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #18 on: 02-24-2004 23:09 »

There's a gag in "Spanish Fry" (it'll be in the fourth dvd set) that suggests a "head" to the conflict I guess, but otherwise it pretty much continues as always.  Zoidberg becomes more and more pathetic though (which is always a good thing).
Zeep

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #19 on: 02-25-2004 12:16 »
« Last Edit on: 02-25-2004 12:16 »

in the season 1 commentary, in Hell is other robots (i think...) they mention that hermes just suddenly started hating hermes for an unexplained reason. ("Somebody been wastin' a whole heap o' juice... probably you!" )
my guess is that the writer of HIOR (dont remember who... sorry) added that as a joke, and in later episodes, people liked hermes making fun of zoidberg, so they added it again.

that's as good an explanation as i need to finish off the series (on this topic only, i would not develop any MORE on leela's origins. maybe even a little less)
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #20 on: 02-25-2004 18:05 »

I think there should've been more flashbacks to the characters' pasts, the paternity of Mom's sons, and there should've been a cop/detective episode as well!  Also, Leela's origins were revealed at the right time, it was bound to be anyway.  Plus, the show should've gone on for more seasons to come!

Mouse On Venus

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #21 on: 02-25-2004 18:11 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
There's a gag in "Spanish Fry" (it'll be in the fourth dvd set) that suggests a "head" to the conflict I guess...

 One of the dumbest throwaway jokes ever.  no no

theZoid88

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« Reply #22 on: 02-25-2004 23:25 »

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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Who IS the father of Mom's sons?  Farnsworth?  Wernstrum?  Officer Barbrady?

no, the chicken f*cker < insert peter griffin laugh>
SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #23 on: 02-27-2004 11:54 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2008 18:44 »

sundheit
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Yeah, like who the father of Mom's sons was...

Now there's an unresolved plot thread!
We know Farnsworth and Mom played "pelvic pinochle," so he may well be Walt, Larry, or Igner's genetic father.
Now, at risk of derailing my own thread, and being flamed if this has been discussed before;
If so, could Mom's/Farnsworth's sons have Fry's 'delta brainwave' 'thang?

Swerving back on-topic:
So far we have The Fry-Leela thing; Leela's origins; why Hermes hates Zoidberg; Characters aging; Amy & Kif's relationship; Leela & Zapp's... er... uh... *ahem* relationship; development of other character's backgrounds...
Is there anything else you'd like to have seen developed, or developed differently?
Most importantly, how would you like it to have developed?
VoVat

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« Reply #24 on: 02-27-2004 15:23 »

Regarding the delta brainwave thing, none of Fry's other descendants seem to lack the brainwave, so I don't see why Mom and Farnsworth's son would.
Yinger36

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« Reply #25 on: 02-27-2004 15:51 »

Right, because the main reason Fry lacks the Delta Brainwave was because he did "the nasty in the pasty"
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