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PCC Fred

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« Reply #80 on: 02-26-2004 10:44 »

FOX won't do a Futurama movie, because it might rain on Mike Judge's parade.
Cloud 9

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« Reply #81 on: 02-26-2004 16:55 »

If Fox makes a show that similar to Futurama, I'm gonna revolt!  evil laugh Cause it sounds worse, and I'll bet they won't cancel  it after only four seasons! *walks off grumbling about the unfairness of life*

Those who choose to alter fate will do so at their own misery.
Lord Cecil

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« Reply #82 on: 02-26-2004 18:59 »

If the new season of Family Guy next year is a success to fox, then maybe they'll consider bringing back Futurama as well if enough people buy the DVD's.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #83 on: 02-26-2004 19:04 »

*sighs*  Another hopeless optimist.  Let the spirit breaking begin!

Lord Cecil, FOX cancelled Futurama because they hate Futurama and they hate Matt Groening.  No matter how good it's DVD sales get, they won't renew the show.

Welcome to PEEL, BTW.
Lord Cecil

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« Reply #84 on: 02-26-2004 19:11 »

Since when does Fox hate Matt Groening though? I mean I've never heard of that. As far as them hating Futurama they hate anything that decreases in ratings even though it's their own fault.
Ranadok

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« Reply #85 on: 02-26-2004 19:55 »

In my understanding, Fox doesn't like Groening because they have no control over his shows (outside of censor notes). This applies to the Simpsons as well, but it makes far too much money for Fox to mess around with it.  Just a question of my own: why did Fox mess around with Family Guy and cancel it? I'm guessing they don't have anything against the creator, as he is supposedly doing a new show for them sometime soon.
Yinger36

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« Reply #86 on: 02-26-2004 20:31 »

I dont think they have/had anything against Seth, but, who knows..Fox works in moronic ways.  Just curious tho, what time slot did Family Guy have when it was still on?

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Lord Cecil

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« Reply #87 on: 02-26-2004 20:53 »
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Family Guy didn't have a time slot, that's why the ratings were bad. It was bounced around to different days at different times. When it was on I was an avid watcher, but when it was cancelled I didn't even notice because half the time I didn't know when to watch it. Hopefully Fox will put more care into scheduling the new episodes next year.
  Family Guy Returns!
Cloud 9

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« Reply #88 on: 02-26-2004 21:20 »
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I've never really gotten into Family Guy, though there are a lot of fans at my school who foolishly claim that it's better than Futurama. *gasp* I'll admit, it is a funny show, but though I love random humor, I just think it has too much that isn't as clever as Futurama. *cringes and waits for Family Guy fans to start throwing rocks*   hmpf

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noisemaker

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« Reply #89 on: 02-26-2004 21:24 »

one can only hope that somebody with lotsa lotsa cash and is a futurama fan, would pay the team to make more shows :P
Cloud 9

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« Reply #90 on: 02-26-2004 21:26 »

Yes! Money fixes everything!  big grin People say that the biggest problem would be getting the team back together, but we fools can still hope!  love

Those who choose to alter fate will do so at their own misery.
Prof. Wernstrum

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« Reply #91 on: 02-27-2004 07:46 »
« Last Edit on: 02-27-2004 07:46 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
One more time - what do C4 have to gain by putting Futurama on at a better time when:

a)C4 only have about 20 episodes unaired,
b)All the episodes have already aired on Sky,
c)The show's been axed?


You're probably right that it's too late now but C4 have been putting Futurama on at the worst possible time slot since before the cancellation of the show. And when they had it on at a sensible time it was subject to excessive and often inexplicable censorship.

As for Sky showing the episodes first, just about every American show appears on sattelite before making it to terrestrial TV but as a general rule the channel doesn't feel the need to hide it away where noone will ever find it (Except for BBC with the X-Files which changed time, day and even channel on an almost weekly basis). The majority of people in Britain do not have Sky and so there is still an audience when another channel shows it.

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O is the 15th letter (1+5=6)
X is the 24th letter (2+4=6)

Hence, FOX = 666
Roddney

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« Reply #92 on: 02-27-2004 09:05 »

C4 are currently showing Futurama at 2am on saturdays and i only know this cuz thats wen i usually get home from the pub on friday nights. but for the majority of peeps they prob wouldnt know this and therefore viewing numbers are low

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PCC Fred

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« Reply #93 on: 02-27-2004 13:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Prof. Wernstrum:
 
You're probably right that it's too late now but C4 have been putting Futurama on at the worst possible time slot since before the cancellation of the show. And when they had it on at a sensible time it was subject to excessive and often inexplicable censorship.

That's true, but it's pointless to blame C4 for it's demise, because they didn't make any desicions concering the production of the show.  Once they've bought it off FOX then that's it as far as FOX is concerned.  They've got their money, for all they care C4 can dump the tapes in the garbage.

 
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As for Sky showing the episodes first, just about every American show appears on sattelite before making it to terrestrial TV but as a general rule the channel doesn't feel the need to hide it away where noone will ever find it (Except for BBC with the X-Files which changed time, day and even channel on an almost weekly basis). The majority of people in Britain do not have Sky and so there is still an audience when another channel shows it.

What about Angel, Seinfeld, King of the Hill, Family Guy, Stargate SG1, Enterprise and recent seasons of Frasier and South Park?  Satellite networks aired all these first, and the BBC/C4 have shown them all at erratic times, and in the case of C4, usually heavily edited.
Davey

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« Reply #94 on: 03-01-2004 14:50 »

Judging By The Ending Of 'The Devil's Hands Are Idol Plaything' I think in a few years time Futurama will have a comeback hour long special. Or Something like that. It was an open ending for 100's of new ideas!
Digital Dragon

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« Reply #95 on: 03-01-2004 15:32 »

An open ending may allow a return but it doesn't ensure one.
Young_and_Angry

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« Reply #96 on: 03-01-2004 16:46 »
« Last Edit on: 03-01-2004 16:46 »

 
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Originally posted by Unknown:
Time slot issues indeed.  7 pm on Sunday is a recipe for preemption every week from September to January.  At least in the eastern part of the US, where I am.
Yes.It.Is. Baseball sux, football sux, and mots importantay... FOX SUX!! living on the eastern  part sux!!! I HATE U FOOTBALL/BASEBALL/ FOX!!!   mad  Sry, i just got on this thread on the first page and if everybodys off time slots, im just gonna shut up, and look like a dumb jerkwad quietly.

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Digital Dragon

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« Reply #97 on: 03-01-2004 17:07 »

I still say you're not quite angry enough.
EspanolBot

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« Reply #98 on: 03-02-2004 03:30 »

 Behold, for Futurama is only on hiatus! Meaning that there is a shadow-thick chance that Fox can realise their mistake, reassemble the people who disburst after it was "cancelled" and continue the show.
fat_boz

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« Reply #99 on: 03-02-2004 08:34 »

 pity, but the shows are still shown here in the UK on Sky one!! even tho i have all the episodes so dint mind so much, but wuld really ike to see more readily available merchandise, it would be apity to see that fade out too  frown
Shadowstar

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« Reply #100 on: 03-02-2004 08:37 »

They claim it's the ratings. But it was their own fault, since the show was doing well and it gets moved to an inhabitable time slot.
Watching the Critic DVDs, and on the commentaries, they talk about how the show was doing well on FOX, and the president of the network at the time (1995) just didn't like the show and cancelled it. They went on to say that all of these "cult" shows did well and were cancelled, such as Futurama, Family Guy, the PJ's, etc.
I agree. Damn president.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #101 on: 03-02-2004 10:29 »

 
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Originally posted by EspanolBot:
 Behold, for Futurama is only on hiatus! Meaning that there is a shadow-thick chance that Fox can realise their mistake, reassemble the people who disburst after it was "cancelled" and continue the show.

Futurama was placed on hiatus about February 14th, 2002.

Futurama was cancelled on May 15th, 2003.
keiji

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« Reply #102 on: 03-02-2004 11:47 »

The people in FOX don't know the real essence of cartoons!!! They cancelled Family Guy and especially Futurama which made them earn an EMMY award for best cartoon series!!!!! It's a big-big mistake!!
SpaceCase

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« Reply #103 on: 03-02-2004 12:15 »

Who says F*x needed a reason?

Television is a business, so F*x's decision boiled down to money and viewers. F*x sells advertizing time. The more viewers they have at a given time, the more money they can charge for said time. That's why there are 'ratings'.
But that's only half the equasion.
TV shows are hideously expensive to make.
So, essentially, it's a question of return on expenditure.
One ep of Futurama cost on the order of a million dollars ($1,000,000) to produce. I've no clue how much money an ep of Futurama made for F*x.
My point?
F*x didn't see enough money coming in to justify the expense of continuing production (espescially compared to so-called "reality shows" that are vastly cheaper to make). Read as low ratings.
Given, it's F*x's own fault Futurama's ratings were high enough: The Management put it in the worst coneivable time slot, didn't promote the show, and shuffled it around like the pea in a shell-game. Not even to mention the "creative tension" between MG & F*x.
But remember the golden rule: Them that got the gold, make the rules.

Unless somebody out there has a few tens-of-millions of dollars to throw at the problem, there is essentially nothing any of us can do about it.

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« Reply #104 on: 03-03-2004 01:59 »

Am I the only person still clinging to the hope that Billionaire Ted (Ted Turner, who pwnz Cartoon Network) would throw a few measley million bucks to Futurama?
Yinger36

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« Reply #105 on: 03-03-2004 03:33 »

Ted owns CN....hmm..Ying did not know this...(call me a monron ok)
bender+fry

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« Reply #106 on: 03-03-2004 06:24 »

maybe theres some work after all....
Nero Wolfe

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« Reply #107 on: 03-03-2004 06:44 »

You bastards, you got my hopes up!
ARGH...!
PCC Fred

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« Reply #108 on: 03-03-2004 07:07 »

 
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Originally posted by NoAPOlogies:
Am I the only person still clinging to the hope that Billionaire Ted (Ted Turner, who pwnz Cartoon Network) would throw a few measley million bucks to Futurama?

Yes.  Yes you are.
Archie2K

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« Reply #109 on: 03-03-2004 10:07 »

Keep up the spirit crushing Fred, it's funny.  tongue

I'd just like to defend Banzai here. It was stupid and unpretentious. I guess one of those shows you either love or hate, but either way around it was a darn site funnier than any of the supposed comedy shows on TV now. *looks in the direction of The Royle Family*
Anarchist

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« Reply #110 on: 03-03-2004 23:03 »

Come on guys, don't be do pessimistic! We can make our own Futurama episodes! With blackjack, and hookers!
NoAPOlogies

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« Reply #111 on: 03-04-2004 00:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Anarchist:
Come on guys, don't be do pessimistic! We can make our own Futurama episodes! With blackjack, and hookers!

In fact, forget the Futurama episodes and the blackjack... eh screw the whole thing.

Well, i'm still gonna cling to my hopes that Billionaire Ted will come to his senses. He might... someday...   frown
Cloud 9

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« Reply #112 on: 03-04-2004 21:00 »

Awesome use of quote there.  wink If we found anyone artistically endowed enough, I guess some of the better fanfics  could be animated. It wouldn't be the same, though. And it's really too much trouble to go to...  cry

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Lucky Clover

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« Reply #113 on: 04-28-2004 21:40 »

Yeah.. I don't think they did give a clear reason.. Oh and Welcome to Peel.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #114 on: 04-28-2004 21:44 »

Lucky Clover, don't bump threads unless you have something to add.

And despite the fact she's made fewer posts, Cloud 9's been registered here longer than you have.
maddoc3d

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« Reply #115 on: 04-28-2004 23:17 »

**Starts off random, but I pull it back**
Well with f0x's awesome shows like .. THE SWAN and other fluffTV, Futurama must have been dead on w/ the MarsUniv episode. ref. monkey who's name eludes me right now.

Also, did/does anyone else think it odd that on June 15th f0x is issuing out a 3 pack of Futurama? a 3 pack???? With just the first 3 boxed sets. The same day as Season 4 of Simpsons. Smells to me like a marketing test or coincidence. They may be having second thoughts as Family Guy is already in production of their 4th episode. And with all the new buzz over DVDs, wouldn't it be more profitable for f0x to release the fourth season of Futurama in May.. which is one of the/THE highest selling DVD months?

*June 15th reference Amazon.com
*randomness brought to you by Killians!

I'm going to get yelled at anyway, but on my own, I couldn't find a puplic statement from f0x saying plainly why they canceled it. just my 3 cents

.. I didn't ask you for a completely reasonable excuse, I asked you to get busy..
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