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Cloud 9

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« Reply #40 on: 02-18-2004 18:52 »

Heheh...Thanks! But, all that aside... Does anyone know if Matt Groening even objected? I'm sure he did, but since he's such a moneymaker for Fox (with the Simpsons) You'd think they'd listen. Does Fox really not like him? I can't imagine that, what with the cash they get from his shows... Uh, make that show, now...  cry

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QueenOfRobonia

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« Reply #41 on: 02-18-2004 18:52 »

The gits at FOX cancelled Futurama before it got the recognition it deserved!
Cloud 9

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« Reply #42 on: 02-18-2004 19:01 »

Actually, a lot of shows got canceled after just one season. They weren't as good as Futurama, though. I think Fox just wanted to show that they had the guts to cancel one of Matt Groening's shows...   no no

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QueenOfRobonia

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« Reply #43 on: 02-18-2004 20:36 »
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Well no-one does anything to try and get anyone intersted in Futurama, I mean it's shown at 1 AM here in England at the moment, which is really stupid, becsaue most of the people who like Futurama that much have them all on DVD, and no-one stays up just to watch it unless they are already really intersted in it. No-one is going to start watching it now are they!

Well they should have cancelled the Simpsons then shouldn't they... it's crap now!
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« Reply #44 on: 02-18-2004 21:36 »

Well on S4 Dvd, matt and the gang did not sound too happy with the outcome with fox and all but i think they knew for quite a while (from about s3) that they had been caned, also they really did not advertise futurama at all, (well in the UK i saw about 2 ad's when it first aired, not sure how much fox did) also i think channel 4 (uk) airing s4 eps at 1am etc is really anoying cause i know a few people that like futurama (but can't afford the dvd's etc) would like to watch futurama but this time is just toooo late, ah well it's anoying but we really can't doing anything but ramble  big grin
chay´s head

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« Reply #45 on: 02-19-2004 00:21 »

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Originally posted by Marcy:
What? They cancelled Futurama? Oops, i didn't know that. Forever???

I could understand if they would cancel the Simpsons because after Matt Gröning left they became really bad.

Did Matt Leave the Simpsons? i didnt know this


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DotheBartman

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« Reply #46 on: 02-19-2004 00:22 »

Groening left The Simpsons after the third season, basically.
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« Reply #47 on: 02-19-2004 01:11 »

He must have something to do with it, there is still an "Assistant to Mr. Groening" credit. My guess is he doesn't do anything that anyone else doesn't do, but has a bigger name, so gets more visibility. What does a consultant do, anyway?

 It was mentioned on a Futurama commentary (Slurm Factory) that he "Groening-izes" new character designs (in this case, the Grunka Lunkas). Does he have a similar role on The Simpsons, or is that done by someone else who is just very familiar with his style?
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« Reply #48 on: 02-19-2004 01:19 »

Well, ever since season four or so he's basically acted as a consultant, yes.  I think he comes in once a month these days to give advice, notes, etc.  Same with Brooks.  By comparison Mike Reiss comes in once a week.

Groening probably helped "Simpsonize" characters in the early days, and of course helped design many of them, but I don't think he does that now.  Its all up to the animators and designers to come up with appropriate designs.
chay´s head

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« Reply #49 on: 02-19-2004 01:44 »

huh (no the "what?" kind of "huh" but the "well you learn something new every dont you?" "Huh" ), thats new to me
eri_2001

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« Reply #50 on: 02-19-2004 12:23 »

I want to see new futurama on CN
but as i se thats basicley the odds 10 to 100
i hope somebody understands and has the money to put it back on i sure would love that happening
???WOuld someone be abel to buy the rights???
laura

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« Reply #51 on: 02-19-2004 13:41 »

Both. Fox is full of dumbasses. Channel 4 shows it at 1am which people have already said, Sky1 shows it at 3.30pm when most people interested are at work or school.
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« Reply #52 on: 02-19-2004 15:44 »

i think they just dont want anything to do with Matt Groening and as you said they cant very well get rid of the simpsons. Because Futurama and Family Guy were sometimes contriversual i think Fox just couldnt be bothered with always stopping them from getting things such as Kiegelizers past them. (sic)
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« Reply #53 on: 02-19-2004 18:30 »

see this is what i dont understand, futurama and family guy are brilliant cartoons and id sooner cancel the simpsons than either if i was in charge
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« Reply #54 on: 02-19-2004 18:36 »

futurama was replaced by a terrible show that didnt do well either!
Cloud 9

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« Reply #55 on: 02-19-2004 20:01 »

What show? I don't remember... BTW: I didn't know that Matt had such a small part in the production of the Simpsons now... What all does he do, then? Futurama's over, *sniff* And since he doesn't do much w/ the Simpsons, is his comic the only thing? (I've never read Life in Hell, is it good?) I agree that I'd much rather have the Simpsons cancelled than our beloved Futurama...

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PCC Fred

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« Reply #56 on: 02-19-2004 20:08 »

 
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Originally posted by QueenOfRobonia:
Well no-one does anything to try and get anyone intersted in Futurama, I mean it's shown at 1 AM here in England at the moment, which is really stupid, becsaue most of the people who like Futurama that much have them all on DVD, and no-one stays up just to watch it unless they are already really intersted in it. No-one is going to start watching it now are they!

With all due respect, what difference does it make how large the UK Futurama fanbase is?
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« Reply #57 on: 02-19-2004 21:43 »
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Originally posted by Cloud 9:
What show? I don't remember... BTW: I didn't know that Matt had such a small part in the production of the Simpsons now... What all does he do, then? Futurama's over, *sniff* And since he doesn't do much w/ the Simpsons, is his comic the only thing? (I've never read Life in Hell, is it good?) I agree that I'd much rather have the Simpsons cancelled than our beloved Futurama...


As stated, Groening comes in about once a month or something to give suggestions.  As one writer says, just to "make sure we're not ruining his baby".  That's been his role since about season four or so.  Other people honestly deserve a lot more credit for the show then they get in comparison to Groening.

"Life in Hell" is indeed awesome, from what I've read of it.  I hightly reccomend any Futurama/Simpsons fan to pick up one or two of the books and check it out.  Hilarious stuff, and I really wish I knew of a publication around here where I could read new ones.

EDIT: Also, the comic MAY not be Groening's only job right now (barring his consulting on The Simpsons).  Nothing definitive about his role yet, but supposedly he and James L. Brooks (who deserves at the very least nearly as much credit as Groening for the launch of The Simpsons by the way) are spearheading the writing staff of The Simpsons movie....

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« Reply #58 on: 02-19-2004 22:05 »

 
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Originally posted by Cloud 9:
What show? I don't remember... BTW: I didn't know that Matt had such a small part in the production of the Simpsons now... What all does he do, then? Futurama's over, *sniff* And since he doesn't do much w/ the Simpsons, is his comic the only thing? (I've never read Life in Hell, is it good?) I agree that I'd much rather have the Simpsons cancelled than our beloved Futurama...


I believe the show was called Banzai, and was a lot of stupid competitions with betting on the outcome by viewers.
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« Reply #59 on: 02-20-2004 00:39 »

I thought Banzai was kind of funny. Stupid and funny. Well, amusing, to say the least. Of course, it could never fill the spacious void of Futurama but we all know that the return of Futurama is never going to happen. It's just like me still hoping that there will be more Twin Peaks.

We as loyal fans must just keep the fire burning.
bish

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« Reply #60 on: 02-20-2004 06:19 »

like someone said we just need to hope someone with money is willing to invest in it
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« Reply #61 on: 02-20-2004 13:07 »

 
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Originally posted by ImmortalDragon:
The only reason most the shows that they have cancelled failed because of either time slot issues or just FOX is bunch of dumbasses. Or more likely both. Is there any chance the series could come back?


LMAO. Your've got your answer there.  wink  tongue

Welcome to PEEL by the way. enjoy  wink
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« Reply #62 on: 02-20-2004 13:50 »

 
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Originally posted by aslate:
 Cartoon Network would buy it, but it's too expensive for them to produce, their budget isn't big enough for a show as expensive as Futurama (Estimates are about $1,000,000 per episode).


What is appauling is that, here in England, channel 4 is believed to have paid around £1,ooo,ooo per episode, for the latest series of the Simpsons!

With current strength of the US Dollar they could have afforded to produce two series of Futurama with that!
aslate

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« Reply #63 on: 02-20-2004 13:55 »

But you see, Channel 4 don't like Futurama. Take a look at tonight's TV schedule and see when the brand new episodes premier on terrestrial TV...
PCC Fred

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« Reply #64 on: 02-20-2004 18:28 »

One more time - what do C4 have to gain by putting Futurama on at a better time when:

a)C4 only have about 20 episodes unaired,
b)All the episodes have already aired on Sky,
c)The show's been axed?
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #65 on: 02-20-2004 18:44 »

FOX thought Futurama was weird ever since it aired.
I guess Rupert was agenced good shows(exept The Simpsons)
Also,Matt never left the Simpsons!
He punces up the scripts,adds some visual humor etc.
Gorky

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« Reply #66 on: 02-20-2004 19:35 »

True, he didn't leave The Simpsons, he just doesn't have as much involvement in the creative process as he used to.
By the way, there had to be a point when FOX actually liked Futurama, due to the fact that they bought 13 episodes an hour into David X. Cohen's and Matt Groening's original series pitch.
SwanMan3000

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« Reply #67 on: 02-21-2004 05:12 »

Banzai did well. It won awards in england anyway. If my memory is correct it beat David Atenburoughs show that took 4 years to make so it must have been quite popular. (sic)
Teral

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« Reply #68 on: 02-21-2004 10:49 »

"Big Brother" and "Survivor" is popular too, doesn't mean I don't despise them. And awards mean nothing.
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« Reply #69 on: 02-21-2004 11:18 »

When Futurama was cancelled, David X. Cohen said that they hadn't given up on the franchise and that if they couldn't find another channel to air it then they would make a movie, as there's still a lot they want to do with the characters.
Gorky

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« Reply #70 on: 02-21-2004 13:08 »

Welcome to PEEL, Pig+Wool=Sheep!
And, you're right, Cohen and Groening would like to do a feature, but we still have no word on if and when it will be produced.
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« Reply #71 on: 02-21-2004 13:25 »

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Wouldn't they still need rights from fox to make a movie, though? I doubt fox wants there to be a Futurama movie.
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« Reply #72 on: 02-21-2004 13:35 »

If they could get it on another channel then I'd assume they'd be able to get a movie made, but I'm not sure, I don't really know the legal stuff. And I'm a Media student. Shows what college teaches ya.
Gorky

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« Reply #73 on: 02-21-2004 13:36 »

I'm not sure. Matt Groening didn't give away Futurama's rights, but a movie would probably still need FOX's backing and funding.
Cloud 9

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« Reply #74 on: 02-25-2004 20:40 »

*sigh* Here we are, still waiting for a movie...DARN STUPID FOX! WHYYY?! *ahem* Yeah, they'll make a lot of $$$ off of a Simpsons movie, hopefully funding a Futurama film! But...that WILL take a long time... (They're just now planning the Simpsons movie...)  frown

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PCC Fred

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« Reply #75 on: 02-26-2004 05:33 »

Cloud 9, if you think FOX'll use the profits from the Simpsons film to fund a Futurama film then you're living on... um... cloud 9.
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« Reply #76 on: 02-26-2004 07:10 »

Does Matt still want to create new episodes if he got the chance??

 
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Originally posted by Cloud 9:
I've never seen Futurama on TV, actually... I only own the DVDs, so I was just going on what someone else said... *blush* My first posted mistake! I'm Ruuuiiined!    cry


Your not the only one i only ever saw one episode on the TV, soon after that channel 4 (UK) moved its time slot to 2am saturdays.


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« Reply #77 on: 02-26-2004 09:41 »

No they did not.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #78 on: 02-26-2004 10:11 »

Yes they did.
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« Reply #79 on: 02-26-2004 10:37 »

 
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Originally posted by Gorky:
I'm not sure. Matt Groening didn't give away Futurama's rights, but a movie would probably still need FOX's backing and funding.

Ive heard somewhere that Fox have plans for a movie called 3001, where a man gets frozen in 2000 and wakes up in the year 3001. but in this case people in the future are less intelligent then him.Is Fox likley to do two movies with similar storylines?? Has anyone else seen or heard about it??

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