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Author Topic: Did FOX give a reason for cancelling Futurama?  (Read 1923 times)
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ImmortalDragon

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« on: 02-17-2004 20:55 »

The only reason most the shows that they have cancelled failed because of either time slot issues or just FOX is bunch of dumbasses. Or more likely both. Is there any chance the series could come back?

But time flows like a river...
And history repeats...
Kellie

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« Reply #1 on: 02-17-2004 21:03 »

No. But welcome to Peel anyway,Immortal Dragon. Enjoy.  big grin
Ranadok

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« Reply #2 on: 02-17-2004 21:52 »

If I'm not mistaken (which I freely admit that I usually am), Fox claimed that Futurama had ratings that were too weak to merit more episodes.  Of course, that was due directly to their own mishandling of the show, but hey, who's counting?  That, and they think it smelled funny. And NOT ha-ha funny.
Rover

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« Reply #3 on: 02-17-2004 21:53 »

Welcome to PEEL. And, good point. It is both.
Unknown

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« Reply #4 on: 02-18-2004 00:16 »

Time slot issues indeed.  7 pm on Sunday is a recipe for preemption every week from September to January.  At least in the eastern part of the US, where I am.
1 of the gang

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« Reply #5 on: 02-18-2004 00:22 »

If they did give a reason it wasn't good enough!



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ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #6 on: 02-18-2004 01:13 »

welcome to peel, stick around for awhile
krokerjoker

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« Reply #7 on: 02-18-2004 07:34 »

any sign of futurama appearing on another channel yet? it was it just a pipe dream?
woopsie daisy!

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« Reply #8 on: 02-18-2004 07:42 »

Well, the main reason is that fox just hate Groening. The only reason the simpsons is still running is 'cause it's like their biggest money maker, which is all they really care about.
Marcy

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« Reply #9 on: 02-18-2004 07:46 »

What? They cancelled Futurama? Oops, i didn't know that. Forever???

I could understand if they would cancel the Simpsons because after Matt Gröning left they became really bad.
Leela_19

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« Reply #10 on: 02-18-2004 11:42 »

I read in another thread that Matt Groening said if fox did not put Futurama back on he would pull the Simpsons is this true  confused
aslate

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« Reply #11 on: 02-18-2004 11:59 »
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Originally posted by Marcy:
What? They cancelled Futurama? Oops, i didn't know that. Forever???

I could understand if they would cancel the Simpsons because after Matt Gröning left they became really bad.

Ah, you're new. Futurama was put on Hiatus just over 2 years ago now. It was still a while until it was officially cancelled though.

 
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Originally posted by Leela19:
I read in another thread that Matt Groening said if fox did not put Futurama back on he would pull the Simpsons is this true
No, Matt Groening has no control over The Simpsons now, i don't think he is able to stop it.

eri_2001

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« Reply #12 on: 02-18-2004 12:12 »

yeah he must still have some control over this
they cant just show the simpsons anyway
Teral

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« Reply #13 on: 02-18-2004 12:35 »

 
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Originally posted by Leela_19:
I read in another thread that Matt Groening said if fox did not put Futurama back on he would pull the Simpsons is this true   confused

No. 1) Matt have said it wouldn't be his style to use The Simpsons as leverage. 2) Even if he wanted to I doubt he has that much control of the Simpsons franchise to pull it off.

As for the original topic of this thread: when Futurama was placed on hiatus back in January 2002 the official reason was that FOX still had more than 25 unaired episodes (due to pre-emptions), in other words more than a seasons worth. FOX told Matt they wouldn't need a new production-season of episodes that year, but would get back to him the next year. Fans new this hiatus notice was the same as a death sentence since the team started to split up. A little over a year later the show was cancelled for good, but without any message from FOX. Futurama simply appeared on a list of shows "that wont be renewed for the next season".
eri_2001

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« Reply #14 on: 02-18-2004 12:38 »

is there any unaired episodes anyway even if they didnt ask for it
Teral

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« Reply #15 on: 02-18-2004 12:42 »

No, all episodes have been aired in the meantime.
chunks

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« Reply #16 on: 02-18-2004 12:45 »

well i'd rather see futurama then the simpsons on Fox, the simpson episodes arent as good as they were and i think futurama is more realistic (the simpson look alomost like cartoon drawing on a paper compared to futurama(just my opinion))
Leela_19

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« Reply #17 on: 02-18-2004 12:55 »

 
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Originally posted by aslate:
  Ah, you're new. Futurama was put on Hiatus just over 2 years ago now. It was still a while until it was officially cancelled though.

 
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Originally posted by Leela19:
I read in another thread that Matt Groening said if fox did not put Futurama back on he would pull the Simpsons is this true
No, Matt Groening has no control over The Simpsons now, i don't think he is able to stop it.



Thanks for clearing that up.
eri_2001

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« Reply #18 on: 02-18-2004 12:58 »

what is used to creat the episodes is it just drawings frame by frame or is it some program
and if it does not air you just dont need to air it just share it if your any good and want to make the episodes maby fans can do it and share it and if this has happend PLEAS tell me
eri_2001

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« Reply #19 on: 02-18-2004 14:34 »

it colud most likley happend that cartoonnetwork will buy it they have many viewers

swedish site: http://susning.nu/Futurama
plus im realy have hope
Bushmeister

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« Reply #20 on: 02-18-2004 14:40 »

A reason? Most likely?

An actual good reason? Most likely not.
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« Reply #21 on: 02-18-2004 14:49 »
« Last Edit on: 02-18-2004 14:49 »

there could never be a good enough reason for cancelling my superior programme. But i think they cancelled it because ratings were dropping but it was obvious they would with that crappy timetable

oh and dont double post please eri_2001 use the edit button
aslate

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« Reply #22 on: 02-18-2004 14:55 »

 
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Originally posted by eri_2001:
it colud most likley happend that cartoonnetwork will buy it they have many viewers

swedish site: http://susning.nu/Futurama
plus im realy have hope

Cartoon Network would buy it, but it's too expensive for them to produce, their budget isn't big enough for a show as expensive as Futurama (Estimates are about $1,000,000 per episode).

eri_2001

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« Reply #23 on: 02-18-2004 15:00 »

Cartoon Network would buy it, but it's too expensive for them to produce, their budget isn't big enough for a show as expensive as Futurama (Estimates are about $1,000,000 per episode).
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man thats some price how come its so expensive
and i still wonder what is used to make episodes
aslate

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« Reply #24 on: 02-18-2004 15:06 »

Cost covers:
Writing Staff, Voicing Staff, Computers, Computing Staff/3D modelers, the people that draw the basics and backgrounds, the Offices etc. And aswell as all that Cartoon Network need to fork out for the rights to produce the episodes, i don't think i've seen an estimate for that.
Just look at the number of people in the credits for each episode, it's a lot of people doing some quite highly skilled work.

So in answer to your other question, it's a mix of hand drawings, computers and 3D computer modeling.
Ranadok

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« Reply #25 on: 02-18-2004 15:06 »
« Last Edit on: 02-18-2004 15:06 »

I believe that much of the expense is from the 3D work, although I don't think that the price is too much more than other animated shows (I've seen Family Guy estimated in the $800,000 to $900,000 range).

edit: by much of the expense, I mean the part that separates it from other shows, cost-wise.
eri_2001

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« Reply #26 on: 02-18-2004 15:17 »

well is there any other channel that want to do all this and can aford it
Marcy

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« Reply #27 on: 02-18-2004 15:53 »

It's strange somehow, and I think there is only one reason why Futurama was cancelled...because there are not enough peole who watch it (which I cannot understand).

First, when it was broadcasted here, at prime time, there were only a few viewers so it was moved to a very bad time.

I think thats the same problem everywhere, isn't it? There is only a circle of loyal perverts like us.    wink
ImmortalDragon

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« Reply #28 on: 02-18-2004 16:09 »

It's amazing that Futurama and Family Guy were canceled, but how the hell did King of the Hill not get canceled? Futurama and Family Guy together could probably get 500x the viewers King of the Hill gets. After the Simpsons are off FOX, there is no hope for them.
Yinger36

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« Reply #29 on: 02-18-2004 16:12 »

It would be nice if they could relase a seasons worth of new eps on DVD only, but, that would pose an even hard job funding wise than TV.
eri_2001

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« Reply #30 on: 02-18-2004 16:20 »

i dont realy get it
is there nothing Matt Groening can do
exept thret whit taking the simpsons of
i mean comon theres gotta be something
i sure like to see a movie anyway
Gorky

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« Reply #31 on: 02-18-2004 16:20 »

Well, Family Guy has been resurected due to strong DVD sales. Production has started up again, and new episodes will air next year. Sad to say, Futurama doesn't have as strong a chance of this happening.
David A

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« Reply #32 on: 02-18-2004 16:35 »

 
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Originally posted by ImmortalDragon:
Futurama and Family Guy together could probably get 500x the viewers King of the Hill gets.

Apparently not.  If that was true, those shows wouldn't have been cancelled, and King of the Hill would have been.

*Waits for unprovoked flaming of KotH*

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eri_2001

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« Reply #33 on: 02-18-2004 16:41 »

Then what tv network has that kind of money
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #34 on: 02-18-2004 17:06 »

No network that would actually want to buy Futurama, apparently.  frown
eri_2001

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« Reply #35 on: 02-18-2004 17:34 »

ahhh man i allways thught that CN had that kind of money so theres realy no big chance of CN doing it then ahh crap
Cloud 9

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« Reply #36 on: 02-18-2004 18:32 »

Yeah, now all CN does is air old episodes. (Well, not old, but ya get what I mean) And they don't even air them in order! *pout*   cry

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Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #37 on: 02-18-2004 18:35 »

I beg your pardon? They air them in production order, just as the creators (rather than Fox) intended, so they actually do it better. Then again, I'm used to the DVD orders, so I would say that.  tongue
Cloud 9

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« Reply #38 on: 02-18-2004 18:42 »

I've never seen Futurama on TV, actually... I only own the DVDs, so I was just going on what someone else said... *blush* My first posted mistake! I'm Ruuuiiined!   cry

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Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #39 on: 02-18-2004 18:48 »
« Last Edit on: 02-18-2004 18:48 »

I wouldn't worry about that too much. If you look above, you'll see some posters who can't post anything but mistakes!   wink
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