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Gurushtaroo´

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« on: 08-30-2001 16:16 »


  Is it just me, or do you also notice that the newer Simpsons episode is becoming so very lame and GAGGY that its painfull to watch (except a few Odd ones here and there).  Will the same pattern effect Futurama?  Right now, Futurama seems to be getting into the Groove of it (just like the Simpsons once did), but if it follows the Simpsons pattern soon the Celebrties and what was once funny lines will be overused and before you know it,...    sleep
Drippy_taco

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« Reply #1 on: 08-30-2001 16:22 »

I agree, but I wouldn't totally count out the Simpsons just yet.  I can say that I do enjoy Futurama a lot more than the Simpsons, compared to their current episodes.
Kryten

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« Reply #2 on: 08-30-2001 16:25 »

With an entire universe to explore, I don't see Futurama dying anytime soon...

Tweek

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« Reply #3 on: 08-30-2001 16:44 »

I certainly think there are many good years left in Futurama still, it might change from what it is now, but mosts shows do over the years.
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« Reply #4 on: 08-30-2001 16:53 »

In the Simpsons it seems that they have run out of ideas
Apathy Party

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« Reply #5 on: 08-30-2001 17:46 »

There's no way going to be as many episodes of Futurama as of the Simpsons- it lacks that broad appeal. And Futurama seem so much deeper- we've gone through 3 seasons and some characters have scarcely been explored. Futurama will probably be cancelled before they run out of ideas.
Zeal

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« Reply #6 on: 08-30-2001 18:27 »

"Hi this is my first post"

Why is it when a real good show comes around that mixes humor with mild intellect it does so poorly? Answer The world is full meat tubes with those brain slugs. My friends also fail to get most of the subtle jokes and think me odd for watching it. Let’s just say my friends are not very heavy upstairs. As for the Simpson’s I have always disliked the Simpson’s I felt the idea was sound but the characters irritating and difficult to take in large doses.  Futurama I can’t get enough of, The characters are very interesting and entertaining.  I laugh every time I watch my season one VCD’s.

Long Live Futurama
Gurushtaroo´

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« Reply #7 on: 08-30-2001 19:48 »


  Welcome Zeal (Where do I know that name from?)
Zeal

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« Reply #8 on: 08-30-2001 20:48 »

Earth and Beyond?  Diablo2?
futurefreak

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« Reply #9 on: 08-30-2001 22:24 »

hey welcome to PEEL Gurushtaroo'!  smile
futurefreak

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« Reply #10 on: 08-30-2001 22:25 »

you too, Zeal! welcome to the board of tommorow!  smile
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« Reply #11 on: 08-30-2001 23:01 »

My guess is Chrono Trigger. 

Anyway, Futurama already seems to be going down the guest star road - see "Bendin' in the Wind" and "So I Dated a Robot."
Sarge

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« Reply #12 on: 08-31-2001 02:50 »

Futurama is still a lot fresher than the current Simpson scripts. The Simpsons will still come out with a few really good ones. But Futurama has a lot yet to be explored.
Gurushtaroo´

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« Reply #13 on: 08-31-2001 02:54 »


  Off topic, What are the Ranking systems here?
 I was a "poppler" and now I am a "crustacean", what is next?

  I know Popplers were those nugget like infants that did so well as fast food.  But what is a crustacean?  I mean a crustacean in Futurama.
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« Reply #14 on: 08-31-2001 03:30 »

have a look at the link "peel museum" below. there is a thread about ranks.

Crustaceans are the Zoidberg people.

I think Futurama can go well in excess of 10 seasons story wise. Fox is more like what could limit it one day...
Kryten

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« Reply #15 on: 08-31-2001 12:12 »

10 seasons, and a movie trilogy, and a video game, and a line of highly flammable children's underwear...

futurefreak

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« Reply #16 on: 08-31-2001 16:43 »

about your first post...i agree with you Gurushtaroo'...after so many seasons the writers have trouble coming up with new funny material...its just like that simpsons ep involving Poochie the rockin' dog...  tongue
Gurushtaroo´

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« Reply #17 on: 08-31-2001 20:56 »


  Futurefreak, I could'nt have of put it better myself!  Love the Poochie metaphore.  I just hope by then Matt G would come up with another series!! I know, (since he explored the present and the extreme future) how about:  "Juracsium"  A show about cave people and the creatures that inhibited earth back then!!
Drippy_taco

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« Reply #18 on: 08-31-2001 21:13 »

A Matt Groening style Flintstones, sounds good...
rach_the_tall

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« Reply #19 on: 08-31-2001 21:26 »

a lot of the characters on the simpsons are close to the ones on the flintsones, but about futurama, I think if they give it more air time more and more people will get into it. Its not directed to that much of a select audience, and it has the potential for 80% of the simpson watching population.
Holly J. Fry

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« Reply #20 on: 09-01-2001 04:48 »

I always hope that shows will be cancelled just as they start to go downhill. That way, if they're good enough they'll have a cult following. The Simpsons has gone on for so long that it will always have a fan base long after it's cancelled. I'm not sure about Futurama though. The fan base is so small already that I hope when it is cut, there'll only have been good episodes made. I've often had people tell me to watch an old show "But only the first two seasons, after that it was TERRIBLE." I wouldn't like to see Futurama go that way, but I do think it will be cancelled before it has a chance, thus preserving it's quality for our children. . . *gazes wistfully out window*
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« Reply #21 on: 09-01-2001 21:06 »
« Last Edit on: 09-01-2001 21:06 »

 
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Originally posted by Holly J. Fry:
I always hope that shows will be cancelled just as they start to go downhill. *

That would leave no room for improvement. I don't think that a show that's gone "downhill", as you call it, CAN get better if new writers are hired for example. I think the concept of Futurama und the Simpsons is great, it's the people who work on it who have to improve the story.
And I don't think that anybody would remember Futurama in five years if it were cancelled after season 3 or 4. I guess to be remembered you have to be around a few years with really good shows.

Ainoth
Drippy_taco

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« Reply #22 on: 09-01-2001 21:46 »

It's probably been said here before, but just to reiterate:

There aren't many Futurama fans because there aren't many different people tuning in when it's on, in other words people aren't giving it a chance and instead just wait an hour for the Simpsons to come on.  I feel this way because it's how I became a fan, before I loved this show I thought it was stupid because I had seen maybe 10 minutes of one of the worst episodes ever and never gave it a chance after that.  Then I got really bored one day and decided to watch it and I remember drinking a sip of Pepsi into the first minute of the show only to spit it (both out of my mouth and nose) all over my bed and floor due to a serious laugh-attack due to a joke made by Bender.  To say the least, I was hooked.

If you were to take someone who didn't know what the hell Futurama was and sit them down and make them watch a whole episode of Futurama, I would bet my entire vault of MST3K episodes that they would become a fan and watch the show every weekend.  In a year Futurama should (justice-wise should, not literally) have a fanbase as big, if not bigger, than the Simpsons because as of right now and probably more-so in the future, Futurama "brings the funnies" more than the Simpsons (in my opinion, anyway).  So if more people were to give Futurama a chance (which would be more likely if Fox would do any justice to the show and it's advertising) it would rapidly gain a lot more viewers and stay on the air for quite some time.  Really when you get right down to it, I'm speaking the obvious but, sadly, the show still doesn't have as many fans as it should.  Hopefully this can change in the future.

TrP

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^Raven^

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« Reply #23 on: 09-01-2001 22:05 »

Well, I'll be buying the DVDs asap, I just wish they'd release them in time for xmas. Cmon, what'll sell better, Simpsons S1 or Fut S1?

No contest really.
Gurushtaroo´

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« Reply #24 on: 09-02-2001 14:33 »


  I agree with you Drippy_Taco.  When it first came out, I never gave it a second look.  I already had labelled it as a Simpsons Ripp off and from the commercials I blamed Bender for being the Homer, Leela for being the Marge, Fry for being the Bart.  It was the Internet for me that got me hooked.  My first "test" download was of a Futurama Episode (I dated a Robot) about 2 weeks ago, and although it is not one of the most successfull ones of the series, it did it for me.  I still clinge on to my previouse theory, however now it is more like:
  Bender = Evolved drunk form of Homer
  Leela  = Evolved stronger form of Marge
  Fry    = Evolved cross between Homer and Bart

  Keyword here is "Evolved".  The characters are'nt as 2 Dimentional as the Simpsons.
DespT

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« Reply #25 on: 09-02-2001 17:04 »

When Futurama was still on in Holland, I watched a view shows because I heard from a friend that it was from Matt Groening. I saw about 4-5 episodes but didn't really liked any of them, I didn't know the characters very well, they all seemed odd. Then the series stopped and I didn't miss it at all. After a while I started downloading simpsons episodes, I came across some futurama episodes and downloaded them. I thought it was fun to be one of the very view in your country who watches a particular show. After a while I forgot all about that and just wanted the episodes 'cause they're so hilarious. Before I knew it I had all 3 seasons on my hd. The possibilities for the show are almost endless so I hope it will graduatly gane audience and stay on for a long time. The simpsons have already gone to far, in my opininion they should have stopped after season 9 and go down like seinfeld did.
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« Reply #26 on: 09-03-2001 11:09 »

there are 2 homers thats why it's soooooo great  cool
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Fenris

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« Reply #27 on: 09-04-2001 02:39 »

I watched te last episode of season 3 last night...and now its over...I dont think i can live without it....When will season 4 come out?
By the way, Zappp is my favorite!! :-)
futurefreak

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« Reply #28 on: 09-04-2001 15:58 »

hey welcome to PEEL, Fenris!  smile
Fenris

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« Reply #29 on: 09-04-2001 16:25 »

Thanks!!!!
Dr.Zoidberg:"say robot old buddy, can you help me with the "caotch"(its missspelled i know)
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« Reply #30 on: 09-04-2001 19:23 »

I think Futurama has more fans than it used to.  And it WILL NOT be cancelled!  You people are too dismal in your expectations.  Have a little faith, for goodness' sakes! 
FishyJoe

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« Reply #31 on: 09-05-2001 13:37 »

 
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I think Futurama has more fans than it used to.

I don't know about that...usually when I ask people about Futurama I'll get a response along the lines of "I like it but I haven't watched it in forever". The timeslot change really hurt.

That said, I wouldn't underestimate Futurama's mainstream appeal. Everyone thinks that it'll never be more than a cult show because of its scifi theme, but I disagree. I remember back when it was on at 8:30, my brother was talking to me about how funny the Slurm Factory episode was. And my brother...god bless him, but he's a big redneck who hates scifi and hardly ever agrees with me on what's funny.

So Futurama can appeal to kids, Simpsons fans, scifi nerds, and even drunk deer-huntin' rednecks. That's a good amount of fans...it's too bad it doesn't have a timeslot where more people would be able to watch it.

 
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Have a little faith, for goodness' sakes!

Having faith in FOX can only result in disappointment.

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« Reply #32 on: 09-05-2001 19:51 »

you got that right...faith in fox is like having faith that one day alex trebek will stop being so annoying  tongue
Gurushtaroo´

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« Reply #33 on: 09-06-2001 12:50 »


  Which reminds me, Have any Futurama Characters cracked any joke about FOX, yet?  (The simpsons and other episodal shows that air on FOX do this on occasions).
Kryten

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« Reply #34 on: 09-06-2001 13:10 »

 
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Originally posted by Gurushtaroo':

  Which reminds me, Have any Futurama Characters cracked any joke about FOX, yet?  (The simpsons and other episodal shows that air on FOX do this on occasions).

A couple. Gunther the monkey is supposeed to be the president of FOX (which explains tons.   wink )

DrRotmos

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« Reply #35 on: 09-06-2001 14:28 »

If you want to know what i think
FYP

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« Reply #36 on: 09-06-2001 15:47 »

Poochie from the Simpsons was more meta-humor than an actual lack of ideas for an episode, it represents what happens when writers of Itchy and Scratchy lacks ideas, it's kind of a show to say a big "FUCK YOU" to alt.tv.simpsons nerds, and I applaud that with all my heart
^Raven^

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« Reply #37 on: 09-07-2001 16:06 »

^^^

He speaks wisely
rach_the_tall

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« Reply #38 on: 09-08-2001 06:29 »

I loved the poochie episode because it was pulling the piss out of all crappy sitcoms with bad writers. I'm scared that the simpsons are starting to become that way, and I hpoe futurama will never go that low.
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« Reply #39 on: 09-09-2001 00:14 »

yeah even though the simpsons did that ep, it looks like things are turning for the worst and its heading that direction...futurama's got at least a few more good years though  big grin
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