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DotheBartman

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« Reply #40 on: 02-08-2004 18:04 »
« Last Edit on: 02-08-2004 18:04 »

True, I normally don't give a shit about award shows at all.  However, its always nice when Futurama gets some recognition, plus an award winning show might be a little more likely to be renewed or given a movie or whatever.  Not saying winning these awards would in and of themselves save Futurama, but they can't hurt.

From what I understand, "Cheers" would've been a one-season show if it weren't for the emmys.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #41 on: 02-08-2004 20:20 »

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H!!!!!!!!

Futurama didn't win! Futurama didn't win! Nothing! Zip! Nada! Zero! The song in Devli's Hands lost to a song in the Simpsons episode Dude, Where's my ranch? And The Sting lost to Three Gays In A Condo! One of the worst Simpsons episodes ever wins to one of the greatest episodes of Futurama!

WWWHHHHYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!
User_names_suck
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« Reply #42 on: 02-08-2004 21:17 »
« Last Edit on: 02-08-2004 21:17 »

I still haven't seen that simpsons episode,
To be fair though is that such great writing in futurama, the twist at the end is that its all a dream. I'm sure it worked against futurama.
At least Simpsons winning the music award means Ken Keeler gets an award since he Co-wrote it.
 I haven't seen that simpsons episode either,
Its annoying I'm missing ones that get awards.
Yinger36

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« Reply #43 on: 02-09-2004 00:12 »

I still honestly think it one by name alone(the name of the show not the ep).  It won solely by popularity.  I bet fox is enjoying the hell outta it tho.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #44 on: 02-09-2004 13:05 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
I still haven't seen that simpsons episode,
To be fair though is that such great writing in futurama, the twist at the end is that its all a dream. I'm sure it worked against futurama.

Captain Logic strikes again.  roll eyes

User_names_suck
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« Reply #45 on: 02-09-2004 15:11 »
« Last Edit on: 02-09-2004 15:11 by [-mArc-] »

[Bite my shiny metal ass] I'm just trying to look at it from an unbiased perspective.

[edit: naughty mouth soaped]
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #46 on: 02-09-2004 15:15 »

Bad mouth me again, I missed that.
Venus

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« Reply #47 on: 02-09-2004 16:22 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:

if patric verrone had kept the orignial idea
that

  eek  My God that's brilliant! That's brilliant beyond all brilliance! I can't believe they didn't go with that! Sure it would have been hard as all hell, but if they had pulled it off.....   love   cry   love   cry
Whoever came up with that idea is officially on my list of people that i would marry if i was way older.
Teral

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« Reply #48 on: 02-09-2004 16:51 »

Isn't Verrone already married?  wink Anyway, one of the reasons they didn't go for it, was that it would give away the end (that it was all a dream) to soon. Fry would have to say a lot of seemingly weird stuff in Leela's dreams, and couldn't actually carry a normal conversation with her.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #49 on: 02-09-2004 16:51 »

Although I don't condone his insults (whatever they were), User name has a point about the ending.  By this point "it was all a dream" endings are seen as being cop-outs and being cliche.  To be fair, "The Sting" did a very good job of catching you by suprise and putting a clever twist on it(and thus I don't think the ending should have worked against it), but the judges may not have seen in that way.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #50 on: 02-09-2004 17:07 »

I guess. I personally didn't have a problem with Futurama's "It was all a dream" moments because they were done in a way that kept the prior occurances in the episode relevant - "The Sting" documenting Fry helping Leela through her coma and "Obsoletely Fabulous" being a hallucinagenic reprogramming sequence - but the judges might not have seen it that way. Quite frankly though, I find that as an explanation for their decision somewhat hard to swallow.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #51 on: 02-09-2004 17:22 »

Agreed with The Sting.  It caught me completely off guard but made sense and fit well with the rest of the episode.  It was a clever twist on the dream ending concept.

I didn't like Obsolutely Fabulous' ending as much though.  I felt it was sort of a copout, plus the fact that The Sting had already done it recently kept it from feeling fresh.  I guess that's irrelevent to The Sting losing though.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #52 on: 02-09-2004 17:29 »

Yeah, OF's ending was less solid, but I still very much enjoyed that episode. And it was an explanation at least.

 "Wizzin'", of course, never had that problem because they established that it was a dream right from the start.  wink
User_names_suck
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« Reply #53 on: 02-09-2004 17:38 »

By the way Mouse I simply said F*** off.
(hopefully you'll be able to guess what the words represented by stars are)

Dont get me wrong I dont think its a fair argument against 'The Sting'. But its possible The judges saw it as a bad cliche.
leelaholic

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« Reply #54 on: 02-09-2004 17:50 »

Sorry to disagree, but I thought that The Simpsons deserved this one (and not just because it's the Simpsons). Seriously, "The Dad Who Knew Too Little" and "Moe Baby Blues" were kickass, and "Three Gays" was good, too. Also, I HATE the music from "Devil's Hands" as much as I hate the episode itself, but "The Ned Flanders Song" was good, even if the episode it's in was just "meh".
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #55 on: 02-09-2004 18:19 »

Once again, leelaholic feels the need to balance out Simpsons bashing with a bunch of value judgements of his own. Great job, that's another one for the team!  tongue
Venus

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« Reply #56 on: 02-09-2004 18:24 »

i saw the Three Gays in a Condo ep, and it was nowhere near the same league as The Sting. It wasn't as clever. It did not deserve that award.
David A

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« Reply #57 on: 02-09-2004 18:29 »

Unexpected things scare people, and clever things make them feel dumb.  That's why "The Sting" didn't win.
Anarchist

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« Reply #58 on: 02-09-2004 18:55 »

Three Gays was a cheap attempt to score "we support minorities" points, and it worked - the judges felt too politically correct to vote against it. End of story.
bankrupt

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« Reply #59 on: 02-09-2004 18:55 »

If we're talking cliches, then the "Three Gays..." episode is cliche in its subject matter.  There are quite a few gay themed shows out there already and I'm sure there are more on the way.  It's hardly an original topic these days.  This is especially true considering it's already been done before on the Simpsons in and earlier season.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #60 on: 02-09-2004 19:38 »
« Last Edit on: 02-09-2004 19:38 »

and now leelaholics compensating comments are undone
NoAPOlogies

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« Reply #61 on: 02-11-2004 11:13 »

I agree bankrupt. That particular episode of the Simpsons (along with a few others) are simply capitalizing on the "flavor of the month". The gay thing is huge now so why not base an episode off of it. I feel insulted though that such an episode beat The Sting.

I also agree with Anarchist. I really think that the Simpsons people figured "how could you vote against an episode that shows support to the gay community?" Its too bad that these voters are too shallow to see the true genius of Futurama.
leelaholic

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« Reply #62 on: 02-11-2004 18:11 »

Homer: Everybody in the USA,
Hates their stupid neighbor,
He's Flanders and he's really, really lame...
Flanders tried to wreck my song,
His views on birth control are wrong,
I hate his guts and Flanders is his name.

Lenny/Carl/Homer: F-L-A-N-R-D-S,
Homer: He's the man that I hate best,
I'd like to see his house go up in flames.

Lenny/Carl: F-L-A,
Homer: His name is Ned!
Lenny/Carl: E-R-S,
Homer: That's a stupid name!
He's worse than Frankenstein or Dr. No.

Byrne: You can't upset him even slightly,
He just smiles and nods politely,
Then goes home and worships nightly,
His Leftorium, is an emporium, of woe!

Lenny/Carl: F-L-A,
Homer: Don't yell at Ned!
Lenny/Carl: D-E-R,
Homer: His wife is dead!
Everybody hates that stupid jerk!

Byrne: Springfield rocks with Homer's joyous loathing,
Filling clubs with angry Valentinos,
You don't have to move your feet,
Just hate Flanders to the disco beat.
Homer/Byrne: He's your perky, peppy, nightmare neighborino!
If you despise polite left-handers,
Homer/Byrne/Flanders: Then I doubt you'll like Ned Flanders
Or his creepy little offspring, Rod and Todd.
Todd: That's us!
Rod: Hooray!

Audience: F-L-A,
Apu: His name is Ned,
Audience: E-R-S,
Apu: He is so white bread,
Choir: A smiling moustache geek who walks with God!

As you can see, it's a helluva lot better than that "Orphan of the Stars" shit. In fact, I'll write a better song than Fry's oprera right now...

Look at him,
His name is Jim


BAM! Now, if it were in a Futurama ep, you wouldn't be able to shut up about how "brilliant" it was, now would you?  big grin
Shadowstar

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« Reply #63 on: 02-11-2004 18:20 »

No! NONONONONONONO!!! Leelaholic, you're hepped up on goofballs! Leela: Oprhan of the Stars was so much better than that song. And that song was in a stupid episode! It's just a lousy song that has no business winning an award. Now if we were talking about "We Put the Spring in Springfield," "See My Vest" or any song in the Shary Bobbins episode, then that's another story.
Venus

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« Reply #64 on: 02-11-2004 18:48 »

Wow. That song beat Leela: Orphan of the Stars? Somebody just shoot me now and bury me in a shallow grave. I'm glad i didn't see that ep, it would have ended with my ears bleeding. I'm sure Keeler did the absolute best he could do, but jeeze, look what he had to work with.

I agree with Shadowstar on See my Vest, now that was fairly clever.
Cloud 9

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« Reply #65 on: 02-11-2004 19:19 »

URGH! Why does Futurama NEVER win any freakin' awards! It's always the Simpsons! ALWAYS! I think it's 'cause they-they...Ugh! I dunno... The Simpsons are ok, but that song thing was stupid! It may have been "funnier," But Futurama always has better! The Simpsons is just humor & no emotion! *runs off grumbling & Simpsons-bashing*   mad

Those who choose to alter fate will do so at their own misery.
leelaholic

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« Reply #66 on: 02-11-2004 21:14 »

Ned Flanders song was awesome, orpan of the stars sucked.

I'm stupid,
I'm stupid,
I'm stupider than you.
I'm stupider than you in every way!


And so is this song!  no no
David A

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« Reply #67 on: 02-11-2004 21:36 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
Lenny/Carl/Homer: F-L-A-N-R-D-S,

Is it Homer, Lenny, and Carl who can't spell, or is it just you?

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
Wow. That song beat Leela: Orphan of the Stars? Somebody just shoot me now and bury me in a shallow grave.

I'll shoot you, but I'll keep your corpse under my matress to remind me that you're really dead.  That'll prove I'm not insane.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Venus

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« Reply #68 on: 02-11-2004 22:11 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:


I'm stupid,
I'm stupid,
I'm stupider than you.
I'm stupider than you in every way!


And so is this song!   no no


That part of the song was supposed to be awkward. That's kind of the point. Fry's hands were changed which made it easier for him to play the instrument but it had no affect on his lyric writing ability, and since it was Fry writing it, of course what he wrote would be obvious and awkward to contrast how good the instrumentals were. It's character continuity. There's no part of that opera that doesn't scream "Fry wrote this". And that's half of what makes it so awesome. The part where it switches to reality is the other half. Because that was brilliant. Brilliant, and in character.
leelaholic

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #69 on: 02-13-2004 08:46 »

David: Homer wrote it, he probably just made a careless spelling error.
aslate

Space Pope
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« Reply #70 on: 02-13-2004 08:57 »

You do realise that part of the song was meant to be the sucky bit? Did you hit mute for the rest of the opera?
leelaholic

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #71 on: 02-13-2004 09:03 »

No, but I wish that I had.

Fry, you do not understand!
I should have revealed I've been deafened by Bender.
The shame. The shame!
But I feared you'd stop writing this musical splendor.
Deception's the curse of my whimsical gender.
He gave me mechanical ears.
Effective though just a bit garish.
In return without shedding a tear, I agreed
that I'd give him my hand!


Wow, that's really (not) good!
Shadowstar

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #72 on: 02-13-2004 09:15 »

[stares in disbelief] I can't believe I'm arguing over this. To choose the Flanders song over the opera, is to like pick the Scooby-Doo movie over Citizen Kane. I don't understand.
Although, here is a GOOD Flanders song.

Hens love roosters,
Geese love ganders,
Everyone else loves Ned Flanders!

Homer: Not me!
Everyone that counts loves Ned Flanders!

Flanders: Knock it off you two, it's time for church.
Rod: We're not going to church today.
Flanders: WHAT? You give me one good reason!
Todd: It's Saturday!
Flanders: Okily-dokily-do!

Hens love roosters,
Geese love ganders,
Everyone else loves Ned Flanders!


It's kinda a song, but at least it's good and I liked it.
leelaholic

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #73 on: 02-13-2004 09:19 »

You've gotta be kidding. Orphan of the Stars was TERRIBLE!!
Shadowstar

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #74 on: 02-13-2004 09:45 »

GRRRRRR!!! DIIIIE!!! [lunges at screen, but is knocked unconcious]
canīt_read

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #75 on: 02-13-2004 10:12 »
« Last Edit on: 02-13-2004 10:12 »

The songs are both ones that I like, but the simpsons one is set up so badly in the episode.

HOW COULD THAT EPISODE WIN?! if there is one episode I hate it's that one. Weird Al's appearance is so random, the plot is screwed, there are a bazillion continuity goof, and the whole idea just repeats alot of things that have already happened in the series. To me, it represents all that is bad about seasons twelve through fifteen.
David A

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« Reply #76 on: 02-13-2004 17:36 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
David: Homer wrote it, he probably just made a careless spelling error.

Yeah, that's what I figured.  Just checking.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #77 on: 02-13-2004 17:45 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
You've gotta be kidding. Orphan of the Stars was TERRIBLE!!

WHY, phorphuxake?! WHY is it terrible? Quit cramming your useless value judgements down our throats and defend yourself!  mad
User_names_suck
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« Reply #78 on: 02-13-2004 19:17 »

Funny though Keeler wrote on both, unless the site made a mistake, but it seems he co-wrote with Maxtone-Graham and Alf Clausen
DotheBartman

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« Reply #79 on: 02-14-2004 03:27 »
« Last Edit on: 02-14-2004 03:27 »

First off, anyone who hasn't seen the Simpsons episode has absolutely no business commenting on that song.  Got it?

I actually rather liked the "Flanders" song.  The whole point was it that it was supposed to be a fairly childish song, written by Homer of course, that ended up being a huge hit much in the way of pretty much every other empty, shallow song on the radio right now.  Its all about context, and in the context it was cleverly written.  I'd say its even in a similar context to Bender's (hilarious) "Broken Friend" song in "Bendin' in the Wind".  Satirical context, purposely bad (in a way) lyrics.

Now, THAT SAID, I definetely think the Futurama music deserved it more.  You can't go wrong with Keeler writing music, but in some ways he really outdid himself with "Devil's Hands", and its among his best work.  Lots of obscure, clever ways of rhyming, brilliant parody of opera, usage of it to further the plot (with the episode itself having a very opera-like theme and plot).....absolutely wonderfully done, and it definetely should've won over The Simpsons one.
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