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ActionLaPointe

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« on: 01-05-2004 06:23 »

i was just wondering in some deep "save futurama" thought...anyone got any idea how much the shows rights might cost to purchase from fox...many million im guessing but anyone know where we could find a decent estimate... incase i strike it hugely rich in a few years or something..or maybe i have other plans in the develope.
Xmpel

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« Reply #1 on: 01-05-2004 06:25 »

So if you could afford buying the rights you would produce episodes at the cost of around 1 million dollars ?
futuramamama

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« Reply #2 on: 01-05-2004 08:26 »

Who wouldn't? Then there wouldn't even be a cencor.
Xmpel

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« Reply #3 on: 01-05-2004 08:29 »
« Last Edit on: 01-05-2004 08:29 »

cause maybe he couldn't afford it ?
futuramamama

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« Reply #4 on: 01-05-2004 08:41 »

couldn't afford a cencor?
MrBurns

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« Reply #5 on: 01-05-2004 08:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Xmpel:
cause maybe she couldn't afford it ?

Why "she"?  confused The profile says ActionLaPointe is male... Did you just look at the avatar or did ALP put gibberish in "her" profile?

Anyway, I guess if each and every fan of Futurama was willing to spend let's say 10-50 dollars, it might be enough. Depending on how many fans there are of course. Then somebody would have to win the lottery so they could actually do new episodes.
futuramamama

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« Reply #6 on: 01-05-2004 09:19 »
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If all Futurama fans in every nation under the sun (or snow in my case) played the lottery and pledged to use the winnings to make a new Futurama episode (or season) then I think everything will be OK again.

FUCK GAIL BERMAN! (on second thought; don't)
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #7 on: 01-05-2004 09:52 »

For God's sake, don't do that. That minion of the devil would take too much pleasure... Futuramamama, du you live UNDER the snow...? That's just too cool/wild!
futuramamama

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« Reply #8 on: 01-05-2004 12:03 »

Under, above, in between. One nation, under snow.
We are the snowpeople of northern norway. We have come to get Victoria Silvstedt Playmate of the Year back from your sweaty claws. She belongs to us now.
Also, Courteney Love.

Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #9 on: 01-05-2004 14:38 »

I've got a feeling Fox wouldn't sell the rights, just to piss people off. That's the sort of people they are...

I'm not sure how much money Matt Groening has, but I'm sure it would be a very reasonable amount.
mattmag

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« Reply #10 on: 01-05-2004 21:25 »

I ought to invent something...
perhaps some kind of death clock!

ill make billions and buy the rights to the show. infact, ill buy the fox network, or how about every network! i will be unstoppable!!!! hahahahahahahaha!

is bill gates by any chance a huge futurama fan?
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #11 on: 01-05-2004 22:27 »

firstly i am male, but i chose to display leela in my avatar...CRAZY!?
and secondly with all the drug trafficing in columbia im about to start up anythings possible..hell when your rich your rich. on the other hand maybe start my own network, with blackjack, and hookers...infact screw the whole thing.
Unknown

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« Reply #12 on: 01-06-2004 00:08 »

I really haven't seen too much of the drug trafficking here in Columbia...wait, wrong Columbia.
shizumadrive

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« Reply #13 on: 01-07-2004 02:35 »

Bleh how'd Cartoon Network get ahold of Family Guy and make new episodes for it? Maybe they'll do it for Futurama?

LAN.gnome

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« Reply #14 on: 01-07-2004 02:47 »

Family Guy didn't cots $1 mil per epsiode to make, that's how. Remember, as successful and popular as Cartoon Network is and may become, it's still a cable network, meaning their funds are more limited.
shizumadrive

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« Reply #15 on: 01-07-2004 03:13 »

Yeah I know that Family is cheaper and that CN's funds ar emore limited but I still think they could afford to produce smaller seasons.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #16 on: 01-07-2004 05:40 »

Yeah, but that wouldn't fly. You know American TV, seasons have to be at least 13 episodes long.  tongue
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #17 on: 01-07-2004 05:43 »

 
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Originally posted by shizumadrive:
Yeah I know that Family is cheaper and that CN's funds ar emore limited but I still think they could afford to produce smaller seasons.

At $1 million a pop per episode? Networks get their revenue from selling ad time, and as a cable cartoon station, Cartoon Network probably doesn't even pull in enough money to break even on one episode, let alone a whole season.
Unknown

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« Reply #18 on: 01-07-2004 10:44 »

I believe that FOX would be the ones actually making the new episodes of Family Guy.  It's just not determined yet where they will air.  Also, Family Guy isn't too much cheaper than Futurama.  I saw somewhere that Futurama costs around $1.2-1.3 million, while Family Guy cost around $900K.
Davey

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« Reply #19 on: 01-07-2004 12:39 »

Good idea! Everyones is good (apart from the death clock one)
shizumadrive

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« Reply #20 on: 01-07-2004 16:29 »

Cool even better. Let the morons at fox make the shows for Cartoon network heck put the new ones on FX that channel needs something to watch.
kidofdarkness

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« Reply #21 on: 01-07-2004 16:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
Yeah, but that wouldn't fly. You know American TV, seasons have to be at least 13 episodes long.   tongue

what!!
britsh seasons last about 6 episodes i wish they did last 13 though for some programs. also it is my aim in life to see one last new episode of futurama before i die. (that said although ive seen every other episode i havent seen fear of bot planet, my three suns and Hell Is Other Robots
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #22 on: 01-07-2004 17:19 »
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Yeah, the British average is definitely six. Which is either representative of the capital available or, much more likely, the number of ideas the writing staff can generate. A quality over quantity thing.
Dr_Dave

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« Reply #23 on: 01-07-2004 19:34 »

If it's any help, I believe that the syndication rights cost Cartoon Network $10 million for 5 years.
Amy´s Soldier

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« Reply #24 on: 01-07-2004 20:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
Yeah, the British average is definitely six. Which is either representative of the capital available or, much more likely, the number of ideas the writing staff can generate. A quality over quantity thing.

Altough Futurama provides both.

Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #25 on: 01-08-2004 12:03 »

Most of the time, although I'd say the 22-episode Season 3 had a few stinkers.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #26 on: 01-08-2004 12:10 »
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Originally posted by ActionLaPointe:
firstly i am male, but i chose to display leela in my avatar...CRAZY!?

Yes you are.  All males using Leela avatars are sick, sick people.

Sil

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« Reply #27 on: 01-08-2004 12:17 »

Futurama is more expensive than that, isn't it? The costs go up the more brand new 3D models there are - stuff like Roswell was very expensive because the tank and the planes - all that stuff was a one time job. At least with stuff like the moon, they only paid the modelling fee in SP3K and got plenty of reuse out of it.  I thought Futurama was closer to $2mn per episode on the more complicated eps.
sheep555

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« Reply #28 on: 01-08-2004 12:36 »

 
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Originally posted by ActionLaPointe:
i was just wondering in some deep "save futurama" thought...anyone got any idea how much the shows rights might cost to purchase from fox...many million im guessing but anyone know where we could find a decent estimate...

By "rights", I take it you are not just referring to intellectual property rights, but to the cost of "buying" the show. This varies according to market conditions - with the DVDs still to come out in the USA, and episodes still being shown in many countries, Fox are unlikely to sell - certainly, you'd expect to pay well into the tens of millions.

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
Yeah, the British average is definitely six. Which is either representative of the capital available or, much more likely, the number of ideas the writing staff can generate. A quality over quantity thing.

The main reason is British shows don't have a writing staff, but a single writer - think about all the great British comedy shows, and you'll realise they're all written by one person, possibly two (Only Fools and Horses - David Jacobs, The Office - Ricky Gervais, Red Dwarf - Grant & Naylow, etc). The only comedy shows in Britain that have a writing staff are the sketch shows (Dead Ringers, Jam, etc). These tend to still run for six shows simply because the audience is too small, and the actors have other commitments.

 
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Originally posted by Unknown:
I believe that FOX would be the ones actually making the new episodes of Family Guy.  It's just not determined yet where they will air.  Also, Family Guy isn't too much cheaper than Futurama.  I saw somewhere that Futurama costs around $1.2-1.3 million, while Family Guy cost around $900K.

The latest I have it that it's a straight to DVD, although I'm not sure. I believe I worked out somewhere that if every member of this forum donated $260 you'd have enough money to resume production of one episode. 10,000 people would have to donate $100 each (in practice, this is only a very, very rough estimate).

 
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Originally posted by futuramamama:
Who wouldn't? Then there wouldn't even be a cencor.

If it was broadcast on TV, it would have to be "censored" (ie, approved). The same with DVD - it would still have to be rated by a censor.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #29 on: 01-08-2004 12:47 »

Personally I think the British system is badly screwed up somewhere when even the most successful sitcoms only survive for about a dozen episodes (as well as the ubiquitous Xmas specials).
Sil

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« Reply #30 on: 01-08-2004 12:51 »

Oh come on - look at how long My Family lasted - and that's a pile of shite.  Except for Nick. I love Nick.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #31 on: 01-08-2004 13:32 »

Perhaps PCC Fred meant good sitcoms more than successful. Red Dwarf is the obvious exception to the rule though, having had, ooh, around 5 series' more than most.
KittinGas

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« Reply #32 on: 01-10-2004 09:14 »

Hmm... weird ideas...
Sil

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« Reply #33 on: 01-10-2004 09:23 »

That's true, but the number of good shows that last a long time seem to bear no relation to the number of bad shows that last longer. There's some that are lame which have gone on far too long (My Family, All About Me and My Hero to name but a few IMO).
futuramamama

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« Reply #34 on: 01-11-2004 11:52 »
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Originally posted by sheep555:
 If it was broadcast on TV, it would have to be "censored" (ie, approved). The same with DVD - it would still have to be rated by a censor.

Yes, but if it's only for DVD, you could rate it X or whatever, you could still sell it.
Fox is bending over to the religious right, you cannot even see cartoonpeople naked. How's that for a fucked up sexual orientation?

By the way, did you hear about the new pirate movie? It was rated arrh!
Coop

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« Reply #35 on: 01-11-2004 13:03 »
« Last Edit on: 01-11-2004 13:03 »

Hey gang, I get 10 dollars for my allowance! And I'm considering mowing lawns, maybe if we all start mowing lawns we can pool our money together, and save Futurama!

It'll be cool, we can put all the money in a pickle jar at my house!   big grin


What? You don't trust me with your money?   frown
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #36 on: 01-11-2004 13:09 »

 
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Originally posted by futuramamama:
By the way, did you hear about the new pirate movie? It was rated arrh!

You have to worry when people start stealing jokes from Baby Blues.  tongue
KittinGas

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« Reply #37 on: 01-11-2004 16:26 »

Yes. Yes, indeed.
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