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Benders_Fan

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« Reply #40 on: 11-21-2005 18:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:

Also, I'd switch Fry to Bart, and Bender to Homer anyway.


I was about to post the same thing.
BenderNeedBooze

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« Reply #41 on: 11-24-2005 07:59 »

I would say

Zoidberg + bender + fry = Homer
CaptainYesterda

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« Reply #42 on: 11-25-2005 01:17 »
« Last Edit on: 11-25-2005 01:17 »

i reckon...
Bart+Fry  Bender+homer  Lisa+Leehla  Grandpa+Proffesor  Mr Burns+ MOM  Smithers+ MOM's sons
and also homer and fry have the same middle name??? i think matt groening middle anme is Jay
Foxxy Gurl

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« Reply #43 on: 02-08-2006 22:24 »

 
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Originally posted by EspanolBot:
Bender is to Bart
Leela is to Lisa
Fry is to Homer
Mom is to Mr. Burns
Mom's sons are to Mr. Smithers
The Professor is to Grandpa Simpson
Etc.

Sweet...
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Shiny

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« Reply #44 on: 02-09-2006 03:34 »

Matt Groening  mentioned on a commentary (AoI 2, I believe) that he thought of parallels between Futurama characters and The Wizard of Oz and Gilligan's Island.  I figure, if you can make comparisons like that, comparing Futurama and Simpsons is just as legitimate.

Both shows share a creator, and many of the same writers, so some similarities are unavoidable - both tend to hit on the same themes and feature some of the same archetypes.  However, the archetypal roles are spread around differently.

Take the classic "Homer/Bart = Bender/Fry" issue.  Both ways of paralleling the characters have good arguments.  Homer and Fry share the traits of dumbness, laziness and gluttony.  However, Fry is young and a big fan of certain TV shows, more like Bart in some ways.  Fry is also a dreamer, which is not really a major trait of either Homer or Bart.  Bender shares Bart's mischievousness and con artist tendencies; but he also has Homer's laziness and gluttony (his gluttony usually outdoes Fry's, though his substances of choice are different).  However, he outdoes Bart in deviousness due to the fact that he's evil (or at least wicked) and at least professes not to care about anyone but himself, which is like neither Homer nor Bart.

Leela has Marge's practicality and Lisa's brains and idealism; but she also has Bart's quality of thinking fast in a tough situation.  I would argue that Fry's dorkiness and dreamer-ness are a bit like Lisa.  Lisa's intellectualism is something only the Professor really shares.  The Professor is old, like Grandpa, but unloved and unnoticed, like Zoidberg.  Nibbler is part Santa's Little Helper and part Maggie.

I could go on all day.  The fact that it is so hard to "match up" the characters one-to-one proves to me that both sets are complex and nicely rounded.  In some situations, Fry serves the "Bart" function and in others he serves the "Homer" function, and occasionally the "Lisa" function. Fry is a combination of traits that add up to a fairly unique whole, the fanboy-slacker-loser-sacred fool-hero that is what makes him his loveable self. 

Bender is a more familiar archetype, the Rogue with the Heart of Slightly Tarnished Silver, only more interesting because he's also a robot.  Leela is the traditional science fiction "Action Babe," tough and practical, but also a fairly vulnerable recovering "wounded child," and she has a healthy streak of repressed "mischievous brat" that sometimes emerges, despite her well-honed better judgement.

In short, while they share traits with the Simpsons, they are not a retread; the similarities between them can lead to some interesting and enlightening comparisons, but it's actually harder to draw parallels between Futurama and Simpsons than Futurama and Wizard of Oz, or even Futurama and Gilligan's Island.  That is because at heart Simpsons is a Family Sitcom, and Futurama is a comedic take on Action-oriented Science Fiction.  Wizard of Oz and Gilligans Island are also adventure stories, and so it is natural they should draw water from the same well.
Glasses

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« Reply #45 on: 02-09-2006 04:04 »

Indeed
Foxxy Gurl

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« Reply #46 on: 02-15-2006 17:13 »

Who's to Marge?
TriggerHappyJim

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« Reply #47 on: 02-15-2006 17:18 »

If the characters in Futurama were anything as shallow as the simpsons (small "s" ) I would have stopped watching it, as I did the simpsons.

If anyone wants me, I'll be in my bomb shelter awaiting the inevitable onslaught.
mookie427

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« Reply #48 on: 02-15-2006 17:40 »

i'm right in the bomb shelter with you, Jim! I don't like the simpsons, and i'm not ashamed to admit it!
TriggerHappyJim

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« Reply #49 on: 02-15-2006 18:55 »

Your welcome to it, I think there's room under that crate of tinned peaches.

Anyone else joining us in here?
mookie427

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« Reply #50 on: 02-16-2006 10:52 »

tinned peaches! what a luxury
Nixorbo

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« Reply #51 on: 02-16-2006 14:27 »

Must resist urge to re-write out entire Grand Unified Roles Theory.
Shiny

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« Reply #52 on: 02-16-2006 22:59 »

You have a Grand Unified Roles Theory?!  Stop resisting and spill it!

...or is that a name you've given to my previous rambling post above?  (If so, then thank you!) 

(If not, then out with your GUR!  Nosy minds want to know!)
Nixorbo

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« Reply #53 on: 02-16-2006 23:53 »

Actually, it's a lot like yours.

Basically, characters from Futurama fulfill the same roles as characters from The Simpsons.

Fry fulfills more of the Homer-esque role - the loveable loser whose attempts to endear himself to the woman of his dreams provides wacky fun.

Bender is more of the Bart role (alliteration a coincidence?  probably).  Michevious scamp who gets away with everything.

Leela is a Marge/Lisa hybrid.  She's the straight man to compliment Captain Wacky (in this case, Fry), the responsible voice of reason/nagger, and the crusader for causes.

The Professor.  He takes Abe's Old Man Role, and combines it with Frink's nutty professorness.  There is also a dash of Burns-esque richness and evillity, but that role largely falls to Mom.

Dr. Zoidberg does the Millhouse (outcast), Dr. Nick (quack), and Lionel Hutz (incompetent).

Kif?  Smithers giving into his hate.

You could make the case that Zapp fulfills the Hutz role, but I'd still give it to Zoidy based on poorness.  Personally, I feel he is a character that doesn't fit into a role.  Same for Amy and Hermes.
Shiny

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« Reply #54 on: 02-17-2006 19:04 »

I can see the characters going that way, but I still say there's enough other "pairings" you can make that it's not the only way to see them. 

You can compare and contrast, but equal signs just cannot be put between the casts.  Any correspondence we can devise is just going to be one pattern among several possible others, because the shows are based on a different archetypal structure and therefore have different roles that need to be filled.
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« Reply #55 on: 02-18-2006 10:33 »
« Last Edit on: 02-18-2006 10:33 »

futurama is to family guy

leela is to meg
bender is to brian
fry is to chris
zapp is to quagmire
kif is to stewie
 
futurama is to simpsons

amy is to amber dempsey (beauty pageant winner)
the Proffeser is to prof Frink
mom is to mr burns
cuthbert is to martin
hermes is to mr smithers (minus the gay tendancies)
dwight is to milhouse
zoidberg is to hans moleman
labarbara is to marge

others

elzar is to chef (south park)
walt, igner and the other one? is to hewey, dewey and lewey
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #56 on: 02-18-2006 11:15 »

 
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Originally posted by LordZoidberg:
futurama is to family guy

leela is to meg
bender is to brian
fry is to chris
zapp is to quagmire
kif is to stewie
 
futurama is to simpsons

amy is to amber dempsey (beauty pageant winner)
the Proffeser is to prof Frink
mom is to mr burns
cuthbert is to martin
hermes is to mr smithers (minus the gay tendancies)
dwight is to milhouse
zoidberg is to hans moleman
labarbara is to marge

others

elzar is to chef (south park)
walt, igner and the other one? is to hewey, dewey and lewey

No, just no.

LordZoidberg

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« Reply #57 on: 02-18-2006 13:24 »

yes just yes (well maybe)
Hypnotize

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« Reply #58 on: 02-18-2006 13:27 »
« Last Edit on: 02-18-2006 13:27 »

thats way off
TriggerHappyJim

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« Reply #59 on: 02-18-2006 13:30 »

I agree. And who the hell is Cuthbert? Its Cubert.

I think Nixorbo nailed this thread.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #60 on: 02-18-2006 17:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
I can see the characters going that way, but I still say there's enough other "pairings" you can make that it's not the only way to see them. 

You can compare and contrast, but equal signs just cannot be put between the casts.  Any correspondence we can devise is just going to be one pattern among several possible others, because the shows are based on a different archetypal structure and therefore have different roles that need to be filled.

My basic argument was that characters do not repeat.  Character roles do.  I was going to say that in my last post, but then I forgot.
BnderBRodriguez

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« Reply #61 on: 02-18-2006 19:13 »
« Last Edit on: 02-18-2006 19:13 »

groening said that the simpsons was his take on the american family and futurama was his take on sci fi. other than a limited number of plots that were slightly along the same lines there realy are no simsons to futurama comparisons. If you wanna look at similarities look at the crap that is family guy. Peter is the stupid dad always hurting himself with a crappy job = homer
Lois is a nagging wife that in some episodes is considered hot and others not = marge
chris is a stupid boy like the father always getting in trouble  = bart
meg is a loner daughter = lisa
they have one baby stewie = maggie
one dog brian = santas helper
snowball and the episode where the griffins get a a cat
homer has two best friends and an annoying neighbor he makes fun of (carl = black and lenny is white)
peter has two best friends (quagmire = white cleveland = black)
annoying neighbor they both make fun of is the guy in the wheel chair and flanders
Homer always goes to moes peter always to the drunken clam
then look at the plots that are the same
stewie becomes and octipus, maggie is kangs daughter
homer gets  a gun to be cool, peter gets a gun to be cool
bart lisa and maggie are taken away due to bad parenting (but it is just a misunderstanding) so is stewie
homer has the endangered animal is his back yard, peter has that endangered bird in his beard.
Family guy is funny but it a copy of the simpsons.....and a bad copy at that. Futurama IS a whole new take on reality with groening and he never attempted to make similarities.

Sorry i wrote so much.......
Nixorbo

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« Reply #62 on: 02-18-2006 21:50 »

There are 2 things I draw from your post.

1) You recognize Family Guy for the cheap Simpsons knockoff it is.  This is good.
2) You didn't bother to actually any of my or shiny's posts.  This is bad.
mookie427

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« Reply #63 on: 02-19-2006 09:11 »

family guy.....well, where can i start? However many times people say they love it, i HATE IT'S GUTS! It is just a cheaply made clone of a whole load of cartoons.....people say it's great, but i think it is utter balls!

there, my rants over....i feel better now  wink
Shiny

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« Reply #64 on: 02-19-2006 11:54 »

Family Guy always feels like it was written by committee (a committee where at least half the members have no taste or wit, and who think pointless offensiveness is funny in and of itself).  How different from Futurama or Simpsons, or even South Park (where the offensiveness is pointed, usually with deadly accuracy at the heart of some cultural sacred cow).  It really matters to have someone or someones at the helm to keep things cohesive.

The fact that Family Guy is so completely disjointed, uneven, and unoriginal (The only parts I like are those involving Brian and Stewie, the only two characters with any whiff of originality to them) and yet is still so freakin' popular fills me with despair.  I'd say that most Americans are no more than talking monkeys with remote controls, but that would be a grave insult to Gunther. 

D'you suppose it would be possible to genetically engineer a virus that only kills people who think Family Guy is the best animated sitcom on TV?  roll eyes
PhyscoticRobot

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« Reply #65 on: 02-19-2006 12:27 »
« Last Edit on: 02-19-2006 12:27 »

ill join the debate! though its basically what everyone else is saying
no. just coz its the same creator, doesnt meaqn the charaters are "partenered" with anyone
EDIT: i really like family guy actually
TriggerHappyJim

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« Reply #66 on: 02-19-2006 13:41 »
« Last Edit on: 02-19-2006 13:41 »

   
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Originally posted by Shiny:
D'you suppose it would be possible to genetically engineer a virus that only kills people who think Family Guy is the best animated sitcom on TV?     roll eyes

I tried that. The bastards wouldn't stand still.

I don't have much against Family Guy. I just never got into it the way I did Futurama.

"Jim, do you ever post anything relevant, EVER?" - Punching Bag

Expect gaps between posts. And I'm not talking size here.
NotHAPPY!

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« Reply #67 on: 02-19-2006 14:28 »

In my opinion, the charactors have SIMILARITIES as they're made by the same people. Thats all.
LordZoidberg

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« Reply #68 on: 02-20-2006 18:35 »

 
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Originally posted by TriggerHappyJim:
 And who the hell is Cuthbert? Its Cubert.

sorry like in killing Cubert this was typed by my sister a for note how do we know his names spelling?
BenderNeedBooze

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« Reply #69 on: 02-23-2006 07:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Foxxy Gurl:
Who's to Marge?

Marge is to nobody who destroyed the show called simpsons and she caused the family to die because the simpsons god, matt groening couldn't control her dang nagging!

Foxxy Gurl

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« Reply #70 on: 02-24-2006 13:46 »

 
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Originally posted by BenderNeedBooze:
 Marge is to nobody who destroyed the show called simpsons and she caused the family to die because the simpsons god, matt groening couldn't control her dang nagging!


That's mean.   no no
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