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EspanolBot

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« on: 12-16-2003 09:04 »

Bender is to Bart
Leela is to Lisa
Fry is to Homer
Mom is to Mr. Burns
Mom's sons are to Mr. Smithers
The Professor is to Grandpa Simpson
Etc.
BuffDaddy

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« Reply #1 on: 12-16-2003 09:06 »

and whats with Zoidy, Hermes, Cubert Etc?
nagrub

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« Reply #2 on: 12-16-2003 11:24 »

i can see where you're coming from, but at the same time i have to say no. just no.
Lee Roberts

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« Reply #3 on: 12-16-2003 11:57 »

We know, I think this was brought up before some time, the thread (i think) is closed and i think it was under a different forum title, so well nagrub is right....* but then and again you do have a point...

*Sorry don't mean to be too "baddie" like. Welcome to PEEL enjoy your time.  smile  wink
David A

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« Reply #4 on: 12-16-2003 12:31 »

Huh.

Most people compare Bender to Homer, not to Bart.  Also, Leela is more like Marge than Lisa.

These kind of comparisons don't really work though.  Wanna know why?  Because Futurama isn't The Simpsons in space, that's why.

It's kind of like when Cartoon Network had that comparison chart equating Family Guy characters with ones from Home Movies.  It doesn't work, because the shows aren't that much alike.

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MrBurns

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« Reply #5 on: 12-16-2003 13:19 »

Bender is like Bender. Hey, he appears in at least one episode of The Simpsons, right?  big grin
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #6 on: 12-16-2003 14:08 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 These kind of comparisons don't really work though.  Wanna know why?  Because Futurama isn't The Simpsons in space, that's why.

Right on!  smile

Read it and weep.


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« Reply #7 on: 12-16-2003 15:26 »

Yes, you can't compare Futurama to Simpsons, the shows are just too unlike.  The only reason visiable simularities are there is becaus ethe two shows are made by the same folks so their characteristics in cartoons (i.e. character's personalitites or in this case, the trademark Groening big, round eyes).

Also, I'd switch Fry to Bart, and Bender to Homer anyway.


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catindisguise

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« Reply #8 on: 12-16-2003 15:47 »

My friend told me this a while ago. I put my hands over my ears and went "blah blah blah".
I told her they weren't the same.
She is evil!!!!!!
Also, I bet homer couldn't create a laser show with his head.....
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #9 on: 12-16-2003 15:59 »

Both shows have characters steroetypical of society. Part of what Futurama is trying to show is, as much as technology has developed and advanced, we as people will always have the same charactaristics, instincts, emotions, indifferences and fundamental flaws. It's showing that a futuristic world will cause just as many problems as it solves, and that society will always have a veriety of people who have certain identifiable characteristics and personality's. In Futurama, this extends to Robots and Aliens, but still the same relationship applies.  Technology will never be perfect, not while the people/whatever, who created aren't perfect themselves. It's showing a futuristic world isn't a perfect world, and still has many of the problems we have today. Sure some may have been fixed, but others have replaced them.

The culture my change, and society to a degree will as well, as a reaction to change. However the reaction remaining same in human instinct. And within that society, you'll always find a mixture of different mindsets. The way they interact, will always bare resemblance, no matter what period of time they're in. This helps us relate to these characters, even though they're in the future, and helps us care for them. but what people fail to realise is the context which they are in doesn't constitute a fair comparison to The Simpsons...
Nixorbo

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« Reply #10 on: 12-16-2003 22:57 »

I posted a big long thesis on this very same subject ages ago.  Basically, I pointed out that while no two characters on the show were the same, what characters were there filled the same roles.  For instance, Farnsworth fills the roles of Abe and Frink, old coot and mad scientist.  Mom fills the same role as Mr. Burns, evil rich person.  Zoidberg fills the same roles as Dr. Nick and Millhouse, quack physician and universal whipping boy.
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« Reply #11 on: 12-17-2003 15:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Both shows have characters steroetypical of society. Part of what Futurama is trying to show is, as much as technology has developed and advanced, we as people will always have the same charactaristics, instincts, emotions, indifferences and fundamental flaws. It's showing that a futuristic world will cause just as many problems as it solves, and that society will always have a veriety of people who have certain identifiable characteristics and personality's. In Futurama, this extends to Robots and Aliens, but still the same relationship applies.  Technology will never be perfect, not while the people/whatever, who created aren't perfect themselves. It's showing a futuristic world isn't a perfect world, and still has many of the problems we have today. Sure some may have been fixed, but others have replaced them.

The culture my change, and society to a degree will as well, as a reaction to change. However the reaction remaining same in human instinct. And within that society, you'll always find a mixture of different mindsets. The way they interact, will always bare resemblance, no matter what period of time they're in. This helps us relate to these characters, even though they're in the future, and helps us care for them. but what people fail to realise is the context which they are in doesn't constitute a fair comparison to The Simpsons...

I think that's overinterpreted. What if they just wanted to make a show that's funny and set in the future?
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« Reply #12 on: 12-17-2003 15:10 »

 
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Originally posted by MrBurns:
 I think that's overinterpreted. What if they just wanted to make a show that's funny and set in the future?

Actually, according to what I've heard from Groening and the rest on the DVD commentaries, Otis is pretty much right on the money.
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« Reply #13 on: 12-17-2003 19:30 »

to some extent its right but its exagertaed to make it seem more intellegent and also to make a funny furturistic sci fi cartoon
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« Reply #14 on: 12-18-2003 09:23 »

What Otis said really made me think about Futurama and how right he is....I never looked at the show that way before but it's true....even in the future, guys still can't get girls to like them, Doctor's are still negligent idiots, and robots are still alcoholics  big grin
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« Reply #15 on: 12-18-2003 20:02 »

well duh thats obviously not going to change who'd think it would. its really not that deep or profound thinking
PCC Fred

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« Reply #16 on: 12-18-2003 21:38 »

There's a simple way to settle this.  Read the Simpsons/Futurama crossover comic, and find out who everyone is paired with.  wink
MrBurns

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« Reply #17 on: 12-20-2003 07:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Gleno:
What Otis said really made me think about Futurama and how right he is....I never looked at the show that way before but it's true....

I don't want to look at Futurama that way. I just want to enjoy watching it and not think "oh look how clever, this is what our society is like and we won't change in the future and blablabla", that would soooo spoil it for me.
kelley

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« Reply #18 on: 01-31-2004 16:20 »

no!bender is to homer
and fry is to bart!   
KittinGas

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« Reply #19 on: 02-01-2004 04:16 »

 
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Originally posted by catindisguise:
Also, I bet homer couldn't create a laser show with his head.....

Meh, I wouldn't be suprised, what with the crap in The Simpsons at the moment. I mean, most episode are so far-fetched, Bart could turn out to be a trillionaire... except, his SECOND FACE gets all the money! That is... untill the monkey turns up.
Zeep

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« Reply #20 on: 02-02-2004 11:05 »

why always with the futurama-simpsons comparison? it's like comparing Fry to Hermes. They're both human and male, and that's pretty much all they have in common.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #21 on: 02-02-2004 11:30 »

Hermes is human? I always thought he was some kind of outer space potato man.  eek
chunks

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« Reply #22 on: 02-02-2004 19:41 »

just testing to see if this works (i'm new here)
chunks

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« Reply #23 on: 02-02-2004 19:42 »

ok it worked......this web site is pretty cool i love futurama
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #24 on: 02-02-2004 19:49 »

welcome to peel mr. chunks. double posting will get you crammed with a squirrel.
Mango

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« Reply #25 on: 02-02-2004 19:54 »

An Analogy By Mango:

Simpsons is to Futurama as Grapefruit is to the Arctic Ocean.
David A

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« Reply #26 on: 02-02-2004 20:21 »

[Homer]Mmmm... grapefruit.[/Homer]
Shadowstar

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« Reply #27 on: 02-02-2004 20:41 »
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[Homer]Mmmm... mango.[/Homer]
<----- Oooh, you like that? Liquid Emperor, bay-be.
David A

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« Reply #28 on: 02-02-2004 20:59 »

 
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[Homer]Mmmm... mango.[/Homer]

I don't really care for mangoes.  I do like Mango, though.

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
<----- Oooh, you like that? Liquid Emperor, bay-be.

Somebody get a knife and cut this idiot open so I can get out.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
ur mum
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« Reply #29 on: 11-16-2005 21:16 »

 
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Originally posted by BuffDaddy:
and whats with Zoidy, Hermes, Cubert Etc?


zoidberg-comic book guy
hermes- frank grimes
cubert-not important enough, and he has the most annoying voice-death to cubert
Fry1248

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« Reply #30 on: 11-17-2005 11:08 »

welcom here ur mum [PEEL]FEILD
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #31 on: 11-17-2005 11:10 »

I don't think any Futurama characters are like the Simpsons characters. 
The Pizzazz

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« Reply #32 on: 11-18-2005 02:54 »

^ Yes, I think that any Futurama fan would know that fact. So there really is no necessity of mentioning it.
hotrod zoidberg

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« Reply #33 on: 11-18-2005 06:12 »

simpsons is to futurama as
the american family is to to sci-fi as
ice cream is to chocolate icecream covered into caramel covered in nuts covered in chocolate also with robots

and my god what is with all the double posting newbs theres millions what the hell happened

also KurtPikachu2001 i guess thats just matt's style of humour
DeltaP42

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« Reply #34 on: 11-18-2005 19:03 »

Yeah, besides a couple of the characters being visually similar between the two series, I'm really not buying any correlation between the two.
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« Reply #35 on: 11-18-2005 19:30 »

 
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and my god what is with all the double posting newbs theres millions what the hell happened

you joined in september...
Fry1248

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« Reply #36 on: 11-20-2005 12:06 »

Who???
FRY TO BART
Nixorbo

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« Reply #37 on: 11-20-2005 22:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
I pointed out that while no two characters on the show were the same, what characters were there filled the same roles.  For instance, Farnsworth fills the roles of Abe and Frink, old coot and mad scientist.  Mom fills the same role as Mr. Burns, evil rich person.  Zoidberg fills the same roles as Dr. Nick and Millhouse, quack physician and universal whipping boy.

CrapBag

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« Reply #38 on: 11-21-2005 09:02 »

 
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Originally posted by ur mum:

cubert-not important enough, and he has the most annoying voice-death to cubert
eek   no no
i think that the actress (Kath Soucie or Tress MacNeille) does a wonderful job. i dont particularly love his voice, but i know how hard those voice actors jobs are.
Professor Zoidy

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« Reply #39 on: 11-21-2005 17:43 »

It depends on how you look at it. In a way, yes, some have similar characteristics that are the same. Seeing Fry crammed something up his nose and does weird things is comparitive to Homer, while other things aren't.
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