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1 of the gang

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« Reply #40 on: 11-30-2003 18:48 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2003 18:48 »

Welcome to PEEL, RT!
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But I kinda doubt the AS getting new episode rights(however much of a dream come true that might be)
But as for Mat threatening to pull The Simpsons I don't think that would be such a bad idea to pull The Simpsons temporarily...they need a break to get some good ideas n-e-ways.

*EDIT* TOTPD!!! GO ME!
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Teral

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« Reply #41 on: 11-30-2003 18:53 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2003 18:53 »

 
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Originally posted by RabbitTime:
 so i'm very confused.  maybe adult swim just got the rights to more episodes that they hadn't been able to air before?

Bam!

The "new" episodes aired on Adult Swim the last couple of weeks is the 5th season aired on FOX. FOX wanted first dip at airing these episodes, and thus AS/CN couldn't show them until now. So they're new to AS, but not new to Futurama.

Welcome to PEEL, Rabbit_Time. Enjoy it here.   smile
CyberKnight

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« Reply #42 on: 11-30-2003 20:04 »

 
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Originally posted by RabbitTime:
I feel like I've gone completely mad:
I was told, about 2 months ago that Matt Groening had more or less demanded that fox put futurama back on, or he'd pull the simpsons.

I believe MG stated in an interview that he would not use the power of The Simpsons to force a revival of Futurama (I believe the exact quote was "It wouldn't be my style." ).

Nice that he has a principle (although I can't say I would do the same in his position  wink).

And just so we sound like a broken MP3, Welcome to PEEL, Rabbit_Time!  tongue
futuramamama

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« Reply #43 on: 11-30-2003 20:24 »

If everyone here at PEEL chipped in like a hundred dollars each. Do you think it would be enough for another episode?
Do anyone have an idea how much an episode cost to make? (You see, I'm planning to be a billionaire)
1 of the gang

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« Reply #44 on: 11-30-2003 20:33 »

You do that futuramamama!
By the way you own me $50.
futuramamama

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« Reply #45 on: 11-30-2003 20:42 »

Well, the billionaire idea is just getting off the table, so can I just owe you it for a couple of months? I swear I'll pay you, just as soon as my winning lottery-numbers kicks in.

Cheese it!
bankrupt

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« Reply #46 on: 11-30-2003 23:10 »

 
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Originally posted by futuramamama:
If everyone here at PEEL chipped in like a hundred dollars each. Do you think it would be enough for another episode?
Do anyone have an idea how much an episode cost to make? (You see, I'm planning to be a billionaire)

That's a definite NO.  I too wish I could fund more Futurama out of my pocket, but you would have to practically be a billionaire to do it.  The episodes are extremely expensive (million dollar range I think) to make.  The beautiful animation that we all love isn't cheap.  Unfortunately, I see this as the number one barrier to any Futurama revival.   frown
bender+fry

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« Reply #47 on: 12-01-2003 05:07 »

probably, but we can always hope that there was a sequence of actions that led to the creation of more episodes. If it said that there were more episodes created a month ago, I bet it was just the season four reruns they are showing on CN. Do you by any chance know the name of the episode or what happens?

Threatning to pull the simpsons would be a great way to get futurama back on the air, although I don`t think Matt would do that.
bender+fry

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« Reply #48 on: 12-01-2003 05:13 »

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Originally posted by futuramamama:
If everyone here at PEEL chipped in like a hundred dollars each. Do you think it would be enough for another episode?

Lets see here..... 1,200,000 divided by 19,000,000. More than enough. I hope FOX dies or something. I can`t believe they would cancel something so popular. I would do anything, ANYTHING, to get futurama back on the air, and this includes, begging on the streets and cleaning urinals.


Damitol

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« Reply #49 on: 12-01-2003 11:48 »

My understanding is that while FOX Home Entertainment (the good guys in the evil FOX empire) will be releasing the new Family Guy DVDs, the episodes themselves will be shown on Cartoon Network - not FOX.

In other words, Family Guy's renewal is a bid by FOX to make many, many more dollars on DVDs only. They still don't think it will do well as a regularly scheduled network show. It wouldn't surprise me if the "fourth season" showed up in our favorite video stores prior to CN getting airing rights.

As far as Futurama's future - I'll never say never - but production costs are a big speed bump in a deal similar to Family Guy's.  Of course the S3 and S4 DVD sets have yet to be released in R1, so if sales figures are big enough, who knows?  I know that Family Guy sold close to one million units domestically (I don't know if that's each set or both sets total however), so Futurama S3 and S4 would have to surpass that in order to start the pencil pushers at FOX HE running numbers on a new "season".

Finally, as far as a fan based financed season happening, I learned from the whole Farscape thing that a show can't legally have thousands of investors.  Someone needs to set up a non-profit corporation and take in donations, then the corporation would finance the show.  Sadly, lawyers and accountants need to be part of the mix, so setting up such a corporation requires someone with both a big pocket full of seed money and the desire to make it all happen.  Anyone? Anyone?
sheep555

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« Reply #50 on: 12-01-2003 12:01 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2003 12:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Damitol:
As far as Futurama's future - I'll never say never - but production costs are a big speed bump in a deal similar to Family Guy's.

Would it not be possible to lower the budget costs - Rough Draft animate both shows, and one would assume it would be possible to say to them "We want a show that costs as much as Family Guy - what needs to go?".

Although obviously you'd lose all the 3D, and lots of detail, which is probably necessary for a show like Futurama, so reducing costs probably is not very viable.

 
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Originally posted by Damitol:
so setting up such a corporation requires someone with both a big pocket full of seed money and the desire to make it all happen.  Anyone? Anyone?

I possess one of those qualities...who's with me?
bender+fry

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« Reply #51 on: 12-15-2003 05:47 »

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
  I possess one of those qualities...who's with me?

I am. Unfortunately, I dont possess the other quality.  smile
winna

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« Reply #52 on: 12-15-2003 07:23 »

Now all we have to do is get sheep "the desire to make it all happen"!  wink  roll eyes
Unknown

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« Reply #53 on: 12-15-2003 10:55 »

I heard that Family Guy doesn't cost too much less than Futurama.  I've generally heard that it falls in the 900K-1.1M range.  So that isn't really the issue.
flaff

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« Reply #54 on: 12-15-2003 11:57 »

What if people just started boycotting everything from the fox corporation until they start to make new episodes of futurama?
Prof. Wernstrum

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« Reply #55 on: 12-15-2003 17:41 »

^If every single Futurama viewer boycotted everything that FOX makes any money from (except Futurama merchandise/ reruns etc. obviously) and made it clear to FOX what they were doing then this may well be enough to bring the show back. In reality though, there is no way that we could get anywhere near enough support for this to work - even if every PEEL member signed up for it then that would be only a small loss to FOX.

F is the 6th letter of the alphabet.
O is the 15th letter (1+5=6)
X is the 24th letter (2+4=6)

Hence, FOX = 666
DotheBartman

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« Reply #56 on: 12-15-2003 20:55 »

First off, let me clear up something as I have a few times before: Matt Groening won't pull The Simpsons to put Futurama on.  Not only would that create a huge uproar that would leave many viewers too bitter to even bother with what they may see as his "self indulgent pet project"....he CAN'T.  He doesn't own the show, never has and never will.  Fox does and they can continue the show regardless of what he thinks.  It would have to come down to everyone who works on the show now (and Groening does NOT work on the show anymore and hasn't really since about season three, that needs to be clear as well) suddenly deciding that they didn't want to do it anymore, or the costs getting too high, for it to end.  And neither of those are going to happen very soon.

Anyways, what I take all this as is that, if Family Guy's revival is a success, that MAY just open doors for Futurama, if only in the movie format.  What I think will need to happen is for the ratings of both shows to stay consistant, for Family Guy to be successful in its new run (whether you like the show or not, it has to happen for Fox or any other network or studio to bring back a cancelled show based on dvd sales and cable ratings), and for fans of Futurama to buy a whole bunch more dvds then they have been so far.
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #57 on: 12-15-2003 21:37 »

lets just form a fightclub, steal some c4, and "set fox free"....

hey. it could happen......MC WWWOOOOOORRRRLLLLD!
Just Chris

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« Reply #58 on: 12-15-2003 23:53 »

Face it, CN currently doesn't have the money to buy the rights from FOX. It it returns it will most likely be on (ironically) FOX.
Zed 85

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« Reply #59 on: 12-20-2003 05:22 »

I read a news story that said that ol' Rupert is buying DirecTV. However, as part of the agreement, apparently FOX's rights to withold their shows from being shown on other networks have been reduced (but not got rid off)
That may mean something - though it may mean absolutely bugger all...
eri_2001

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« Reply #60 on: 02-16-2004 12:03 »
« Last Edit on: 02-17-2004 00:00 »

fuck the rights who the hell cares in leagal rights to own it 
if you broadcast it on the internet television it doesnt realy matter or if you broadcast it on the least expected channal i think sky1
should broadcast it unleagal
or you can just make a new series caled futuramo
and sell all boradcast all the episodes
thats leagal right!
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Teral

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« Reply #61 on: 02-16-2004 12:55 »

 
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Originally posted by eri_2001:
fuck the rights who the hell cares in leagal rights to own it

FOX and their crack team of top-lawyers, just itching to file another law-suit.

 
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if you broadcast it on the internet television it doesnt realy matter

Copyrights are international, I'm sure Sweden uphold copyright laws just as stringent as America. Just because you do it on the Internet doesn't make it legal, since you would still be a resident of Sweden and as such punishable under Swedish law.

 
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or if you broadcast it on the least expected channal i think sky1 should broadcast it unleagal

FOX: "Hello lawsuit."

 
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or you can just make a new series caled futuramo

FOX: "Hello lawsuit."
 
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and sell all boradcast all the episodes thats leagal right!

FOX: "Hello lawsuit."

Welcom to PEEL. Enjoy it here.  smile
luvnpeese

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« Reply #62 on: 02-16-2004 13:02 »

My dad's friend went to college with Bill Gates.

:-p
eri_2001

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« Reply #63 on: 02-16-2004 13:26 »

yeah well then ill stick whit the john titor theori or that fox will sell it or take it up again
bish

Starship Captain
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« Reply #64 on: 02-16-2004 15:26 »

is there any way that another company ie cartoon network could buy the rights to futurama and make it themselves?
Gorky

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« Reply #65 on: 02-16-2004 19:03 »

It is possible, but very unlikely. Cartoon Network would need to aquire enough money to produce episodes with at least a $1 million budget each.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #66 on: 02-16-2004 19:08 »

 
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Originally posted by eri_2001:
fuck the rights who the hell cares in leagal rights to own it 
if you broadcast it on the internet television it doesnt realy matter or if you broadcast it on the least expected channal i think sky1
should broadcast it unleagal
or you can just make a new series caled futuramo
and sell all boradcast all the episodes
thats leagal right!

Congratulations, you are now the biggest dickhead ever to piss on a computer keyboard.
theZoid88

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« Reply #67 on: 02-16-2004 22:37 »

i hope dvd sales bring both back to adult swim, FOX wanted to cancel them for NO reason at all, but when it starts making them money you get stuff like " Family Guy may have been aired before its time." FOX will do anything for a dollar. corperate bastards. 
eri_2001

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« Reply #68 on: 02-17-2004 01:14 »

sorry im just saying dont get all mad
bish

Starship Captain
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« Reply #69 on: 02-18-2004 11:49 »

does anyone have any dirt on a rich person we can blackmail for money to get futurama back on the air?
also i have set myself a deadline of next year to have started on a way to get futurama back on tv. it involves a very cunning plan i have formulayed involving mobile phones. anyway...
Levitate_Me

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« Reply #70 on: 02-18-2004 12:18 »
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or they could just be joking around, they tend to do that.  I wish that they would have more episodes but the more and more I look into it, it doesn't look like its going to happen. Were lucky that our show got put on DVD so we can watch it again and again, just think about how many great shows are lost to the ages
eri_2001

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« Reply #71 on: 02-18-2004 12:23 »

maybe in year 3000 the will make new episodes
nerdlingus

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« Reply #72 on: 02-19-2004 10:55 »
« Last Edit on: 02-19-2004 10:55 »

 
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
c'mon people...if Farscape can come back, Futurama can! Although a Futurama miniseries would kinda suck, unless it was done VERY WELL...


I personally thought Futurama would be better as a, say 50 minute show.  Reasons being that the quality of the sound and visuals is of movie quality anyways and its not hard to notice that in some of the episodes they simply didnt have enough time to put all the stories in that they wanted too (confirmed by the commentries too!) 


Roll on the movies is what i say
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Levitate_Me

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« Reply #73 on: 02-19-2004 11:06 »


The best thing we can do as fans is to buy the DVD's when they come out in America and show FOX what a following it has. It worked for Family guy, so when March 9th rolls around, buy those DVDS or you could buy them off Amazon, and help the fine people at CGEF  and such.

If I ever become rich, the first thing i will do is find Matt Groening and give him a check and tell him to get started on new episodes, but until that happens we gotta do it the old fashion way.
Bender145th

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« Reply #74 on: 02-19-2004 13:46 »

 
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Originally posted by 1 of the gang:
Fox makes me angry...it makes me want to burn things.

Your comment lack subtlety. You can't just announce how you feel! That makes me feel angry.

superfryguy

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« Reply #75 on: 02-20-2004 14:03 »

 
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
Because while Matt has the rights to Futurama itself (that's why he can still publish comics) Fox owns the broadcast rights to the show.

Can anyone tell me when Fox's rights to 'Futurama' actually expire? (Not that this will ever make any difference!)
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