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rock_girl

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« on: 10-31-2003 15:24 »

What are the episodes that could be perfect by your opinion if there wasn't one crummy incident or a lame line etc?

My vote goes to "The Devilis Hands Are Idle Playthings" because of Leelas "antennas"!
 
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #1 on: 10-31-2003 15:30 »

LTH could've been much better if Leela's parents weren't so annoying (IMO).
David A

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« Reply #2 on: 10-31-2003 15:32 »

"Put Your Head on My Shoulders" could have been perfect, if only Fry hadn't dumped Amy.
John C
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« Reply #3 on: 10-31-2003 16:27 »

Devil's Hands for me, too. Mostly because of Leela's "Me? Really?". That sounded so out of character I would've guessed it came from Coilette in Bend Her.

Something else that bothers me is in A Big Piece of Garbage, when they find the Bart Simpson dolls. Did we really need to see that?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #4 on: 10-31-2003 17:34 »

The Farnsworth Parabox.  I think it really could have been a top-notch or near top-notch episode, but the "shippy" scenes with Fry and Leela just felt so forced and squeezed in.  Not that I mind that dynamic in the show, mind you, but in this case the execution was simply far from perfect.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #5 on: 10-31-2003 18:41 »

I think in Less than Hero, Fry, Bender, and Leela should've fought more.  Plus, they shouldn't have ran out of that body cream they used so soon.
I Seen It First

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« Reply #6 on: 10-31-2003 19:09 »

 
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001:
I think in Less than Hero, Fry, Bender, and Leela should've fought more.  Plus, they shouldn't have ran out of that body cream they used so soon.

The Miracle Cream that Zoidberg bought from a travelling salesman.  smile
Beamer

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« Reply #7 on: 11-01-2003 01:20 »

I probably would have liked The Route Of All Evil a little bit more if it wasn't for the lame "joke" at the end of it.
Sil

Professor
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« Reply #8 on: 11-01-2003 07:50 »

If Kif wasn't such a wuss in WTBR it would have been a hell of a lot better, but I guess that's probably a big thing.
*ums and ahs*
If there had been a bit more inclusion of the robot frat brothers in Mars University that would have been great - more of the Bellucci type stuff, but that episode was pretty good anyway.
User_names_suck
Professor
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« Reply #9 on: 11-01-2003 07:54 »

to concur with do the bartman
the shippy fry and leela in farnsworth parabox,
just seemed to be put in because they couldn't think of anything intresting to put in the other universe
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #10 on: 11-01-2003 12:50 »

I loved the shippy part of TFP. That's part of the reason it's a solid epsiode-  and one of the best McS5 eps.

I loved the ending of MU, when it says how Fat Bot had to be rebooted. Haha.  laff
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #11 on: 11-01-2003 14:17 »

I *hate* the last two lines in The Sting, where Leela says "You could really use a shower" and Fry replies "You, too."  Dammit, I hate those lines!  After all the emotional roller coaster ride that the episode went throught, it was horrible that it ended that way!  In my opinion, the episode would've been 100% perfect if it wasn't for that!  Instead, I think it's only 98% perfect.  Oh well, at least I can take consolation in the fact that it wasn't animated, just shown on the closing credits.
catindisguise

Screamy
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« Reply #12 on: 11-01-2003 14:20 »

You could always stop the vcr/dvd player the minute it finishes....
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #13 on: 11-01-2003 14:23 »

I know.  But my point is, that line shouldn't be there.
catindisguise

Screamy
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« Reply #14 on: 11-01-2003 14:26 »

point taken. Snappy comeback not found  wink
Rover

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« Reply #15 on: 11-01-2003 14:40 »

That is true. The subtle jokes in there worked well except for those last two lines. DAMN! Also, in Parasites Lost, it would have been pretty good it they didn't show Leela sleeping so..grotesquely.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #16 on: 11-01-2003 15:02 »

That bothered you? I thought it was cute.  big grin
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #17 on: 11-01-2003 15:32 »
« Last Edit on: 11-01-2003 15:32 »

I liked the shower line(s). It was cute and light hearted.   smile

I also thought the PL snoring scene was a bit...err...well, I can see how guys would like it.   smile
catindisguise

Screamy
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« Reply #18 on: 11-01-2003 15:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Rover:
That is true. The subtle jokes in there worked well except for those last two lines. DAMN! Also, in Parasites Lost, it would have been pretty good it they didn't show Leela sleeping so..grotesquely.

I didn't like the sleeping part either. It was just to "snoreful" for my likeing. And yes, I did just make up a new word  big grin

Winners don't use Bratwurst.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #19 on: 11-01-2003 15:57 »

Well Leela's always being associated with un-ladylike behaviour. I thought the snoring thing fit perfectly to be honest. But that's just me.  tongue
Vintage Dave

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« Reply #20 on: 11-01-2003 16:44 »

Lovely new avvy, Hil.  Do I hear the whir of a Mixmaster?

I also liked the shower lines.  I think it depends on how you interpret them.  If you home in on the implied criticism, then yes, it's a real mood killer.  However, you can also gloss over that and focus on the intimacy.  Like watching someone sleep.  If you love them, it's not so outrageous when you notice that they're drooling into the pillow  smile
rock_girl

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« Reply #21 on: 11-01-2003 17:00 »

Leela's behaviour is indeed un-ladylike. For example, she could eat that cockroach leg more politely!! :P
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #22 on: 11-01-2003 17:13 »

Now that I thought was kinda cute.  smile

Thanks Davey.  wink
Nixorbo

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« Reply #23 on: 11-02-2003 02:04 »

A Pharaoh to Remember would have been perfect if the entire episode didn't suck so very bad.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #24 on: 11-02-2003 14:00 »

hey that wasn't that bad,

not that i thought much of the episode my three suns anyway,
but why do they put on the touching music for after benders tricked fry into beliving leelas dead to make him cry, and fry makes his speech it really ruinied the humor, its supposed to be a funny moment not emotinal  maybe it was supposed to be ironic with the music but it really didn't come across that way
Teral

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« Reply #25 on: 11-02-2003 15:10 »

Making Leela's parents a lot less pathetic (particular her mother) would go a long way of improving "Less Than Hero".
Venus

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« Reply #26 on: 11-02-2003 15:17 »

i agree with teral. Leela's parents were great in LH and TMLH but they were just....off in LTH. And as i've said before, i actually LIKE Leela's parents.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #27 on: 11-02-2003 15:21 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:

not that i thought much of the episode my three suns anyway,
but why do they put on the touching music for after benders tricked fry into beliving leelas dead to make him cry, and fry makes his speech it really ruinied the humor, its supposed to be a funny moment not emotinal  maybe it was supposed to be ironic with the music but it really didn't come across that way

 No, it was meant to be an emotional moment displaying how much Fry cared about Leela. Yeesh.  roll eyes
Squeezit

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« Reply #28 on: 11-02-2003 17:01 »

A Pharoah to Remember--I think the funniest thing about that entire episode was the alcohol's proof being so high. And although it amused me then, thinking back on it, that's really pretty weak. Oh and the other funny thing was Fry's comment--something about normal theories 0, total wacko theories, score. If the whole episode was just those TWO THINGS, it would have been cool.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #29 on: 11-02-2003 17:18 »
« Last Edit on: 11-02-2003 17:18 »

"Where No Fan Has Gone Before" would've been perfect if not for Leela making out with William Shatner. I got the joke they were making( That Shatner's character liked to make out with alien women), but It just didn't seem right.
J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #30 on: 11-02-2003 17:29 »

Really? I thought that was the funniest part!
canned eggs

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« Reply #31 on: 11-02-2003 19:05 »

I actually liked that too.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #32 on: 11-02-2003 21:11 »

Most likely if you're a shipper, which I assume spacepilot is, it's not the best part of that episode.  tongue
Margarita

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« Reply #33 on: 11-03-2003 00:02 »

yeah, i agree, it was kinda weird.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #34 on: 11-03-2003 01:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Margarita:
yeah, i agree, it was kinda weird.

C'mon folks; if she slept with Zapp, it's within reason that she might make out with the galaxy's biggest man-whore.  smile
Lionel Hutz Esq

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« Reply #35 on: 11-03-2003 02:48 »
« Last Edit on: 11-03-2003 02:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Vintage Dave:
I also liked the shower lines.  I think it depends on how you interpret them.  [. . .]  However, you can also gloss over that and focus on the intimacy.  Like watching someone sleep.  If you love them, it's not so outrageous when you notice that they're drooling into the pillow    smile


Vintage Dave has it exactly right, the last line isn't criticism, but closeness. It is a good sign that both Fry and Leela are thinking of the other as something more than a sex object. 

Yes, I'm a shipper.  But I think the writers did a great job of building Fry's and Leela's romance slowly.  Both of them grow.  If they had gotten together when Fry first tried, they would have fallen apart immediately.  But, over time, they have both grown and have a chance, should they get together, to have a strong relationship.

Its interesting how people keep trying to make Leela virginial.  As I've said, one of the things I like is how "real" Fry and Leela's romance feels.  And that means Leela is a women of her late twenties, early thirties, who has slept with a number of loosers.  But she still believes she will find someone special.  That is what makes her so attractive.  (For the opposite female character, see The Spanish Prisioner).

Of course she slept with Shatner.  As Lan.Gnome pointed out, if she slept with the Zapper, there was no way she was going to resist The Original.


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foxyboxing

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« Reply #36 on: 11-03-2003 12:39 »

I've always liked the problem with popplers, but there are a couple of lines that seem unnecessary-

"You guys eat rocks right?" is funny- but it gets taken straight into lametown with-"Not even if they're sautéed in a little mud?".

Also, the gag about the rat feces is a little weak (leave hot dogs alone for god's sake- it's trite[and they're delicious]!).
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #37 on: 11-03-2003 12:44 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
"Put Your Head on My Shoulders" could have been perfect, if only Fry hadn't dumped Amy.

[Scruffy]Second.[/scruffy]

Huh, I guess I really am a Fry/Amy guy at heart.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #38 on: 11-03-2003 14:53 »
« Last Edit on: 11-03-2003 14:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
  No, it was meant to be an emotional moment displaying how much Fry cared about Leela. Yeesh.    roll eyes

i dont quite get your tone, i know you've got the sarcastic emoticon but it doesn't seem to respond to my point, which may be my fault for awful sentence structure and choice of words
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #39 on: 11-03-2003 15:25 »

That wasn't meant to be a sarcastic statement. I was saying how it was supposed to be an emotional moment, despite how much you seemed to think that wasn't, or wasn't supposed to be, the case.
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