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Action Jacktion

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« on: 10-18-2003 09:58 »
« Last Edit on: 11-03-2003 00:00 »

Nominations for the 2003 WGA Awards are due Wednesday.  You may remember that Ken Keeler won the 2002 award in the animation category for "Godfellas."  Is there anyone 'in the know' who knows if Futurama scripts have been submitted again this year?  If not, the writers need to get busy and get their scripts in by Wednesday.  The following episodes aired during the eligibility period:

"The Route of All Evil:" Dan Vebber
"A Taste of Freedom:" Eric Horsted
"Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch:" Bill Odenkirk
"Less Than Hero:" Ron Weiner
"Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles:" Jeff Westbrook
"The Why of Fry:" David X. Cohen
"The Sting:" Patric Verrone
"The Farnsworth Parabox:" Bill Odenkirk
"Three Hundred Big Boys:" Eric Kaplan
"Spanish Fry:" Ron Weiner
"Bend Her:" Mike Rowe
"Obsoletely Fabulous:" Dan Vebber
"Bender Should Not be Allowed on TV:" Lewis Morton
"The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings:" Ken Keeler
boingo2000

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« Reply #1 on: 10-18-2003 10:05 »

Can they only submit one Futurama script, or one script per writer, or can all of them be submitted, or what?
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #2 on: 10-18-2003 10:18 »
« Last Edit on: 11-03-2003 00:00 »

It's one script per writer, so Vebber, Odenkirk, and Weiner would have to choose which script to send in.  But it doesn't matter how many Futurama scripts are sent in, as long as they're by different writers.
Lionel Hutz Esq

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« Reply #3 on: 10-18-2003 20:12 »

Cool, The Sting, Devil's Hands, and Parbox would all do well, I think.
mads

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« Reply #4 on: 10-20-2003 16:05 »

I think Teenage mutant..., the why of fry, sting, parabox, and devil's hands would have big chances.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #5 on: 10-20-2003 19:43 »

I'm not sure about "The Why of Fry," since it contains so much previous Futurama continuity.  But I guess it couldn't hurt to submit it.  I just hope at least some of these writers have submitted their scripts.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #6 on: 10-20-2003 20:14 »
« Last Edit on: 10-20-2003 20:14 »

If it's just scripts? I think The Sting or Parabox or Devil's Hands...which concidently are the ones I'd submit for a regular nomination of best animated episdoe in general (such as for The Emmys).   wink
less than hero

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« Reply #7 on: 10-21-2003 11:45 »

Obsoletely fabulous, or the farnsworth parabox.  Blue zoidberg!!!!!!!!
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #8 on: 10-22-2003 20:19 »

Well, the deadline has passed.  Let's hope some Futurama scripts were submitted.  I'm not sure when nominations will be announced, but the awards themselves are given out on 21 February.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #9 on: 01-19-2004 12:42 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2004 12:42 »

"The Sting" and Patric Verrone have been nominated!  Other nominees are an episode of Jimmy Neutron, an episode of King of the Hill, and three episodes of The Simpsons.

www.wga.org/pr/Awards/index.html
Teral

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« Reply #10 on: 01-19-2004 12:51 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2004 12:51 »

3 Simpsons nominations? Out of a total of 6 nominees. Nice to see they aren't biased in the least.

Congrats to Verrone with the nomination. Good luck man, you deserve to win.
Bushmeister

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« Reply #11 on: 01-19-2004 12:55 »

Hurray for Verrone being nominated, "The Sting" was a brilliant piece of script-writing.
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #12 on: 01-19-2004 13:07 »

the sting shoudl really do nicely. probably the best thought out episode from the series in my book.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #13 on: 01-19-2004 13:26 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2004 13:26 »

   
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Originally posted by Teral:
3 Simpsons nominations?
Actually, it got three nominations last year too, when it was beaten by Futurama.  But last year's win may work against Futurama, since they might want to give it to something new.  (Last year was the first year time had the animation category, by the way.)

Out of all the other nominees I've only seen one, "My Mother the Carjacker" on The Simpsons.  I thought it was surprisingly decent for a new Simpsons episode (better than Emmy winner "Three Gays"), but "The Sting" was far, far better.  Still, no one act surprised if a Simpsons episode wins.  (We should be used to that by now.)

Incidentally, 19 January is also Katey Sagal's birthday.
Jazzmonkey

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« Reply #14 on: 01-19-2004 13:27 »

Sorry to be a bumb-arse but what are the WGA Awards?
Teral

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« Reply #15 on: 01-19-2004 13:30 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2004 13:30 »

Writers Guild of America. It's the writers awarding the best work in their field the past year.

"Moe Bay Blues" is the only of the Simpsons episodes Ive seen, and it was a pleasant surprise (what else do you expect from an ex-Futurama writer), yet I still think "The Sting" should win. The win last year might work against it, but the WGA want their award to have any credibility they should judge the episodes on their own, not history.
Jazzmonkey

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« Reply #16 on: 01-19-2004 13:36 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2004 13:36 »

Helpy McHelphelp is right!
Thankyou Teral.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #17 on: 01-19-2004 17:42 »

I'm a little torn here.  I'll be rooting for Futurama regardless, since it'll need all the help it can get in terms of any kind of revival (new episodes or a movie or whatever) happening.  But in terms of episode quality, I'm not sure if I prefer "Moe Baby Blues" or "The Sting" actually.  They're both very, very strong episodes.  "My Mother the Carjacker" was great too, although "The Sting" was better then that one.  I don't really like "The Dad Who knew Too Little" at all.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #18 on: 02-21-2004 23:41 »
« Last Edit on: 02-21-2004 23:41 »

Futurama lost to "The Dad Who Knew Too Little" from The Simpsons.  That's actually the only one of the three Simpsons nominees I haven't seen, but I'm sure "The Sting" was better, etc etc.  It was certainly better than the other two nominees, at least; as I said elsewhere, I think "Moe Baby Blues" is very overrated.  Anyway, I just think they need to stop giving awards to The Simpsons.  But at least it wasn't "Three Gays of the Condo" again.

http://www.wga.org/pr/Awards/index.html
Dolcelannah

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« Reply #19 on: 02-21-2004 23:49 »

Nooooooooo!

The Sting was absolutely brilliant. It deserved to have won! Stupid Simpsons - one show should only be allowed one nomination, it's just not fair. Anyway, did they do them in a particular order (ie, did The Sting come second, third...) or was it just winner/losers?

DotheBartman

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« Reply #20 on: 02-22-2004 00:41 »

Hmm...I can definetely say I'm disapointed with this.  Moe Baby Blues winning wouldn't be bad at all, and My Mother the Carjacker was good too (even if not as good as The Sting).

But The Dad Who Knew Too Little?  That came from season 14's bullshitting period, before it got to the good episodes.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #21 on: 02-22-2004 01:16 »
« Last Edit on: 02-22-2004 01:16 »

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
Futurama lost to "The Dad Who Knew Too Little" from The Simpsons.   
 

GOD DAMNIT!!!!

Why must it lose to the Simpsons again and again? It doesn't make any sense! Come on! The Sting was a really, and I mean REALLY good episode(I'm a shipper.). One of the best. But it to lose to bad episodes of the Simpsons is just plain wrong.

Yinger36

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« Reply #22 on: 02-22-2004 04:09 »

I bet the fact that Futurama was canned & the Simpsons is still on the air had a part to play in it...
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #23 on: 02-22-2004 04:13 »

Stop yo' whining, The Sting was weak and uninteresting! I'm no shipper!

Although I haven't seen that Simpsons episode...
El Zilcho

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« Reply #24 on: 02-22-2004 04:16 »

Let's compare: (and I'm paraphrasing these quotes)

"All I need you to do... is wake up. Please, Leela, just wake up!"

vs.

"Let's go get some McNuggets!"
Ranadok

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« Reply #25 on: 02-22-2004 04:26 »

Disappointing, but not unexpected (to lose to the Simpsons, that is. To lose to that specific episode IS a surprise... bordering on shock, even. I mean... c'mon! that has to be the weakest of the three Simpsons episodes, for sure worse than The Sting. Bah.).  I've pretty much given up hope of Futurama winning any more awards when up against The Simpsons... you have to wonder if the award comittee (or whatever) is even watching the same show as us. 

Forgive any spelling, grammatical, logical, or factual errors in the above post, I should have been in bed two hours ago...
Dolcelannah

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« Reply #26 on: 02-22-2004 06:35 »

 
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Originally posted by alexvilagosh:
Stop yo' whining, The Sting was weak and uninteresting! I'm no shipper!

No it wasn't. The Sting was an intense, complex, mind-blowing and beautiful episode of Futurama. Besides, shippiness has nothing to do with it! Leela's love for Fry was only a small part of the overall storyline, which encompassed not only love / relationships / shippiness but mortality, guilt, suicide, insanity and many other aspects which made it a brilliant episode. Granted, there weren't as many funny bits in it as there usually are in Futurama eps, but its plot was so intense and amazing that all that was made up for.

But I digress: Damn you Simpsons! How could those judges be so blind? *sigh*

Shadowstar

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« Reply #27 on: 02-22-2004 10:05 »

I don't really like "The Sting" that much, and I thought "The Dad Who Knew Too Little" wasn't so bad. But if it were "Moe Baby Blues" that won, I would be OK with that. But "The Sting" should have won against "Knew Too Little."
Teral

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« Reply #28 on: 02-22-2004 10:49 »
« Last Edit on: 02-22-2004 10:49 »

[sigh] I should've seen it coming. I have seen "Moe Baby Blues" and I could (not the same as would) accept it if that episode had won. But based on what I've read about "The Dad Who Knew Too Little" "The Sting" should've won.

And I'll echo AJ's words; at least it wasn't fricking "Three Gays On The Condo" again.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #29 on: 02-22-2004 14:30 »

To be fair though last year 'Godfellas' beat three simpsons episodes. The Writer Guild dont think oh futurama has been losing to simpsons a lot recentley, we should give it to futurama.
But this is pretty stupid that the weakest of the three simpsons episodes wins.
I dont think the actual writing in 'The Sting' is that impressive, its a great episode, but basically its just dream sequence after dream sequence which turns out to have all been a dream.
I think it deserved to win (well actually I haven't seen Moe baby blues) But just because its a Story on an epic Sci Fi scale doesn't mean the writing is actually better.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #30 on: 02-22-2004 15:50 »

Good point UNS, although by its nature, Sci-Fi is (or should be, at least) a more creative genre.

Also, nice to see you dumb things down yet again for your own arguments by calling "The Sting" just "dream sequence after dream sequence which turns out to have all been a dream." I think you know very well it's a bit more than that.  roll eyes
User_names_suck
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« Reply #31 on: 02-22-2004 17:05 »

Of course I know that I brought up after the annies, as I said then its a possible criticism the judges used against it.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #32 on: 02-22-2004 17:13 »

 
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Originally posted by alexvilagosh:
Stop yo' whining, The Sting was weak and uninteresting!

Weak? Uninteresting?

Where's Venus and the attack cat when you need em'?

Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #33 on: 02-22-2004 17:18 »

Yeah. Your guess as to how judges decide on these things, however, is as good as mine or anyone's. I always liked Billy West's explanation of the Emmy's selection process: "Have you ever been to one of those things? It's basically an open bar and a bunch of half-watched tapes."  wink
leelaholic

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« Reply #34 on: 02-22-2004 17:20 »

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
as I said elsewhere, I think "Moe Baby Blues" is very overrated.
And "The Sting" isn't?

"Carjacker" should've won! It was WAY better than all of those others!
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #35 on: 02-22-2004 17:21 »
« Last Edit on: 02-22-2004 17:21 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
And "The Sting" isn't?

No, not really. I thought it was thoroughly deserving of the praise it recieved.
leelaholic

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« Reply #36 on: 02-22-2004 17:26 »

I disagree. I found "The Sting" to be a good episode, but nowhere NEAR as good as poeple say it is.

As I said, "Carjacker" IMO beats the living shit out of all the other nominations.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #37 on: 02-22-2004 17:27 »
« Last Edit on: 02-22-2004 17:27 »

Overrated? I laugh. It was underrated in my opinion. Instead of 89%, it should be 98%!
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #38 on: 02-22-2004 17:29 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
I disagree. I found "The Sting" to be a good episode, but nowhere NEAR as good as poeple say it is.

Why not?

 
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Originally posted by spacepilot3000:
Overrated? I laugh. It was underrated in my opinion.

That's just stupid.  roll eyes
User_names_suck
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« Reply #39 on: 02-22-2004 17:41 »

How about that, Leelaholic disagrees with the majority
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