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LesserRaven

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« on: 09-21-2003 21:47 »

I don't know if any of you have seen the new cartoon network show "Duck Dodgers," but it has an amazingly high amount of resemblances to Futurama. Here to just list a few:

-Takes place in the future

-Daffy Duck was cryogenically frozen and awoken in the future

-3D scenes, mostly space ships

-Some similar plots

-One quote from Daffy a.k.a. Dodgers when he found out that his mission was to deliver toilet paper: "I'm a delivery boy!"
PCC Fred

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« Reply #1 on: 09-21-2003 21:55 »

Duck Dodgers: the series?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Forget whether of not it's ripping off Futurama; how can anyone take one of the best WB cartoons EVER and water it down like this?  cry
Allen

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« Reply #2 on: 09-21-2003 21:56 »
« Last Edit on: 09-21-2003 21:56 »

Um, this is a spoof of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. They'd done little cartoons of this in Looney Tunes. It's just a longer version of that. Plus, the concept for that show was developed years before Futurama if you count those little cartoons.
LesserRaven

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« Reply #3 on: 09-21-2003 22:01 »

Uh, actually, they've only done ONE cartoon of it before now, and that was decades ago. What I'm saying is that I think that they decided to make this cartoon because of Futurama.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #4 on: 09-21-2003 22:06 »

And somewhere, Dr. Dave smashes his computer in a blind rage...
Allen

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« Reply #5 on: 09-21-2003 22:07 »

Another explanation might be that someone saw this cartoon and said "Hey great potential for a series." I also thought there was at least two cartoons done with that storyline.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #6 on: 09-21-2003 22:33 »

Oh, so this is why cartoon network isn't gonna renew Futurama. They ordered 2 seasons of Duck Dodgers. I've seen about 3 episodes and I wondered "With the amount of visuals in this show, why won't CN renew Futurama?". I mean seriously, DD has as much visual effects as an episode of Futurama! Does anyone agree?
Kryten

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« Reply #7 on: 09-21-2003 23:15 »

...

I'm speechless.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #8 on: 09-21-2003 23:22 »
« Last Edit on: 09-22-2003 00:00 »

*Has Taken Back What She Said Because Evidently She Had No Idea What She Was Talking About... Shame On Asylum-Fry!*
Kryten

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« Reply #9 on: 09-21-2003 23:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:
If this Duck Dodgers is what I think it is (Daffy Duck is a space hero-guy) then even Cartoon Network has turned on us.

Sad, really... I'd always thought of CN as only a semi-evil channel, but now... now I am just pissed.

*slaps forehead in disgust*

DotheBartman

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« Reply #10 on: 09-21-2003 23:45 »

Before we judge Duck Dodgers and CN, lets actually know the context.  Perhaps that was simply a commercial or single episode parodying Futurama?

We need details.
Squeezit

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« Reply #11 on: 09-22-2003 00:29 »

cut it out--y'all are making me feel old--I mean I freakin' remember Duck Dodgers cartoons well and I'm not that stinkin' old.
evan

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« Reply #12 on: 09-22-2003 00:41 »

Just to show how old I am...

I think that there were more than one episode of "Duck Dodgers in the 24 1/2 Century" back during WB's peak. What surprises me is that, after 50 or so years, someone would decide to make this series.

I don't see it as a rip-off of Futurama at all, just a poor coincidence.
Lionel Hutz Esq

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« Reply #13 on: 09-22-2003 01:23 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
Just to show how old I am...

I think that there were more than one episode of "Duck Dodgers in the 24 1/2 Century" back during WB's peak. What surprises me is that, after 50 or so years, someone would decide to make this series.

I don't see it as a rip-off of Futurama at all, just a poor coincidence.

Agreed, and one of the best Tiny Tunes Episodes was a knock off of the original Duck Dongers (Duck Dogers space ship was hidden in a wharehouse full of boxes of "lost arks" ).  Perhaps you had to be their.  I think it is purely coincidence.  And who knows, they might even pull it off.


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Scythemantis

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« Reply #14 on: 09-22-2003 02:19 »
« Last Edit on: 09-22-2003 02:19 »

Cartoon Network ADORES futurama. IF they could order new episodes, they would, but there are a lot of problems that they have no control over. They're a wonderful network that truly cares about animation as an art. Even when a show does poorly they promote the heck out of it and give it all the chances they can, and they actually LISTEN to their fans and CARE about what we want.

Anyone putting down CN is just a spoiled, pathetic whiner.

Seriously...getting mad because they ordered a new show that happens to not be more futurama is pretty sad.
Damitol

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« Reply #15 on: 09-22-2003 10:46 »

I saw the commercial, but being familiar with the old Duck Doger cartoons, "Futurama rip-off!" never entered my mind.  The biggest difference between Duck Dogers and Futurama as far as CN "not renewing" Futurama is that the duck has a little company called Warner Bros. behind it fronting the lion's share of production costs, and Futurama has no such benefactor.  The average Futurama cost $1.3 million to make, and the most Cartoon Network could pony up (according to Seth McFarlane, creator of Family Guy, the *other* show CN would love to have new episodes of) is about $400,000, or less than 1/3 of the dollars needed.  In a perfect world FOX would believe in the series enough to share the costs with CN, which is probably the deal CN has with Warner Bros. on Duck Dogers.

Did someone at CN or Warner Bros. look at  Futurama's CN success and think "I wonder how another space/future based comedy cartoon would do?".  Probably - but I look at that more as a complement than a rip-off, since Duck Dogers is an established character and no one is going to confuse him with Philip J. Fry.
less than hero

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« Reply #16 on: 09-22-2003 10:56 »

How dare they rip it off!!!!  Ghastly stuff.
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #17 on: 09-22-2003 16:46 »

Also, keep in mind that the Dock Dodgers series is meant for little kiddies.  It's not part of Adult Swim.
Kryten

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« Reply #18 on: 09-22-2003 23:07 »

 
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Originally posted by less than hero:
How dare they rip it off!!!!  Ghastly stuff.

<h5>They....</h5>
<h4>didn't...</h4>
<h3>rip...</h3>
<h2>off...</h2>
<h1>Futurama.</h1>

sk8ghost
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« Reply #19 on: 09-22-2003 23:36 »

I saw the first episode it was pretty funny. Who doesn't love Daffy?
Scythemantis

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« Reply #20 on: 09-23-2003 00:12 »

There have been movies/cartoons about people being frozen in time since LOOOOOOOOOOOONG before futurama and there were actually three old duck dodgers cartoons if I remember.
rikki_rakko

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« Reply #21 on: 09-23-2003 01:58 »

Want another weird coincidence? Warner Bros is making new Loony Tunes cartoons to be shown in theaters and one of them is a Duck Dodgers cartoon. Where's the coincidence you say? Dude, it was made at Rough Draft studios, written by Eric Kaplan and directed by Rich Moore.
Jesse X Barboza

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« Reply #22 on: 09-23-2003 08:15 »

Jeez, I thought that "Duck Dodgers in the Return of the 24 1/2 Century" short from 1983 was bad, but this? The animation is nowhere near the standard of the of the actual 1953 cartoon. Chuck Jones must be spinning in his grave.

And while it's not a total "Futurama" ripoff, the similarities are still there (aspects that were not in the original theatrical short - for instance, Daffy wasn't cryogenically frozen), and it makes me wonder.
Kryten

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« Reply #23 on: 09-23-2003 10:00 »

OK, let me just say this one more time...

Duck Dodgers is, in no way, shape, or form, a ripoff of Futurama. It's a ripoff of an old 40's movie serial called "Buck Rogers" (later made into a TV series), which was about an astronaut who gets frozen and winds up in the 25th century.
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #24 on: 09-23-2003 16:54 »
« Last Edit on: 09-23-2003 16:54 »

See, all you people who claim it's a ripoff of Futurama?  It makes as much sense as claiming Futurama is a ripoff of what Kryten just mentioned.
OC_James

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« Reply #25 on: 09-23-2003 17:09 »

Or a ripoff of Red Dwarf, whichever floats your boat.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #26 on: 09-23-2003 23:24 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by Kryten:
 <h5>They....</h5>
<h4>didn't...</h4>
<h3>rip...</h3>
<h2>off...</h2>
<h1>Futurama.</h1>


THta seems pretty final to me.  I had been waiting for Dr. Dave to go 24th century on this threads ass, but now I'm bored, and I think Kryten's about to have an aneurysm.  And I could figure out the correct spelling of that, but I'm lazy.

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