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VPActionRanger

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« Reply #40 on: 09-19-2003 15:39 »

the bad ratings were prob b/c of the stupid footbal games. some people on the the west coast may be watching a football game cut half of Futurama while the east coast sees the whole thing. (adjusted for time zones) then it is seen with maybe 1/2 the people who want to see it. It shouldve had a 7:30 spot. screw malcom
starone

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« Reply #41 on: 09-20-2003 02:29 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
 I disagree. They didn't really start going for the big emotional moments until season 3, when we had plenty of time to know and love all the characters.

Plus, look at all the emotion in the first season of The Simpsons. We had Homer being depressed and trying to kill himself in the second episode! Plus Lisa and her whole thing, and Homer and Marge's relationship on the rocks a few times.

Otherwise, I agree with your post. The first season of Futurama couldn't really compare with classic Simpsons, which may have turned some impatient viewers off.

Still, I rest all the blame on FOX. If they had supported the show, and kept it in a decent timeslot, the show would have gotten good ratings. When King of the Hill is aired at 7pm Sundays, it gets worse ratings. Yet KotH is renewed, and Futurama is cancelled.


*Gets out a sharp ax and hacks everyone in koth to pieces then heads for fox for gail bermen's head*
  :evillaugh:
Nurdbot

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« Reply #42 on: 09-20-2003 06:09 »

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
 Gee, that guy wouldn't give up, would he.   :rolleyes:


He was a wanker until the end. He should come here, Nix would have some fun.
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« Reply #43 on: 09-20-2003 22:53 »

 
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Originally posted by VPActionRanger:
the bad ratings were prob b/c of the stupid footbal games. some people on the the west coast may be watching a football game cut half of Futurama while the east coast sees the whole thing. (adjusted for time zones) then it is seen with maybe 1/2 the people who want to see it. It shouldve had a 7:30 spot.

I agree with that. It's those stupid football people. Why can't they just be shown on other networks like eveyone else? It also may be because of lack of funding like the reason "Family Guy" went out. It all boils down to; it's FOX's fault.
deathofaclassic

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« Reply #44 on: 09-21-2003 08:00 »

NOTHING compares with classic Simpsons, Even Futurama at it's peak was only 20% as good as season 3-7 episodes (well, most of them).
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #45 on: 09-21-2003 09:55 »

I disagree. I'd chose to watch my least favorite Futurama episode over classic Simpsons. Sure, both are great, and you can't compare them really, but I just love Futurama more.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #46 on: 09-21-2003 12:15 »

 
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Originally posted by deathofaclassic:
NOTHING compares with classic Simpsons, Even Futurama at it's peak was only 20% as good as season 3-7 episodes (well, most of them).

And you're on this board why?
Slashco

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« Reply #47 on: 09-21-2003 15:07 »
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I think this guy put it nicely:

 
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I think the real problem is that Futurama requires more brain cells than "Tempatation Island" or "Paradise Hotel" or "The Bachelor"... you have to have a little pop culture knowledge, some political savvy and the ability to relate those ideas to sarcastic humor to "get" Futurama... you can't just sit back and watch a bunch of horny guys and tramps bed everything in sight and be entertained. Futurama died due to lack of brain power, and not on the part of the writing or animation teams...

Add in Focks' campaign to destroy the show, and you can see why it's gone. Along with Family Guy, Andy Richter, and pretty much every other clever and genuinely funny comedy show.

I'll add one more thing: Although I used to love The Simpsons, the show is certainly going downhill (Three Gays of the Condo nominated for an Emmy? It wasn't even one of their better current episodes). And even at its peak, when it was funny and clever, it never displayed the depth or the emotion of Futurama. Ditto for Family Guy.
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« Reply #48 on: 09-21-2003 16:20 »

actually i  think simpson emotinal moments were generally better. Futurama rarley moved me at all. I generally  dont like much emotion in anything,
i dont know where the fault lies but futurama did'nt do enough to make me care about the characters.
Slashco

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« Reply #49 on: 09-21-2003 16:45 »

I respect your opinion, but you should be able to back it up.  :) Can you name me a Simpsons episode that reaches the emotional level of The Why of Fry, Jurassic Bark, The Sting or Parasites Lost?
User_names_suck
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« Reply #50 on: 09-21-2003 17:31 »

its not a case of levels.
maybe its me and not the show but i dont get moved by it.

an example of simpsons moving me would be say
the episode where homer tells the story of why they have no pictures of maggie.(cant remember the title)
and after the story you see he uses the photos of maggie to cover up the placue that says "rember your here forever" to say do it for her.
that moved me more than futurama ever has.

and as i say its not a case of levels of emotion
its probably just me and how i react to it.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #51 on: 09-21-2003 17:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Slashco:
I respect your opinion, but you should be able to back it up.   :) Can you name me a Simpsons episode that reaches the emotional level of The Why of Fry, Jurassic Bark, The Sting or Parasites Lost?


firstly sorry for double posting
but i think its appropriate this way.

I hate fry and leela relationship based episodes. so that crosses of the sting and
parasites lost.
I loved the why of fry but didn't consider it very emotional.I liked it because of the itriguing story, and for the orphan jokes.
As for jurrasic bark, i didn't see why i should care about a dog that had been introduced for one episode.
so i guess thats why those episodes didn't move me
Ky12wng

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« Reply #52 on: 09-21-2003 17:49 »
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Slashco

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« Reply #53 on: 09-21-2003 17:53 »
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
its not a case of levels.
maybe its me and not the show but i dont get moved by it.

an example of simpsons moving me would be say
the episode where homer tells the story of why they have no pictures of maggie.(cant remember the title)
and after the story you see he uses the photos of maggie to cover up the placue that says "rember your here forever" to say do it for her.
that moved me more than futurama ever has.

and as i say its not a case of levels of emotion
its probably just me and how i react to it.

True, that was a good one. I guess I related much more to Futurama characters, their mindsets and their relationships though, because they are much closer to my age, whereas the Simpsons only has middle-aged adults and children. Partly due to its setting and partly due to its characters, Futurama has given me a sense of wonder and 'belonging' that the Simpsons never did, even when I loved the show.
Probit

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« Reply #54 on: 09-21-2003 19:09 »

 
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Originally posted by robocoptng986127 (IMDb):
  No, the reason why some people are Futurama haters is because the show is stupid.( from http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0149460/board/nest/2470635  ) 


  :mad:   :mad:    :mad:  Well seems some retared fool is too closed minded to even give the show a chance... Cant back it up, never watched the show!   :finger:. Besides did anyone ask him what the hell he thinks about the show. If I were him I would at least give the damn show a chance. Just because he dosent like it dosent mean the whole world dosent like but hey... I forgot, hemade himself the all hight and might king of all judgements!  :finger:
less than hero

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« Reply #55 on: 09-22-2003 11:47 »

errrrrrrrrr..........
VPActionRanger

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« Reply #56 on: 09-22-2003 12:59 »

i think my fav simpsons episode (Boy scoutz 'n the Hoos) is better than my fav. Futurama ep (Parasites Lot) but the animation cant compare. also, if you take every simpsons episode and average them all, and you do the same for futurama, futurama's way better. Futurama has been high quality from day 1. the newer simpsons episodes bring the whole series down. The last good simpsons episode was the one where homer was on maryjane. before that, it was homer vs. the city of NY. thats a 3 seson gap between good episodes (IMO) Futurama has always been great. my least fav. ep of futurama (I dated a Robot) is better than any of last seasons eps of the simpsons. thats just by 2 cents.
planetcutie

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« Reply #57 on: 09-22-2003 16:32 »

One possible reason could be the fact that Futurama was 'moving' without being 'sentimental'.  I guess a lot of people don't like seeing one without the other.  It makes them have to think too much...
User_names_suck
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« Reply #58 on: 09-23-2003 18:52 »

actually my first impressions of futurama
were that it was sentimental

so your wrong there your probably just a nerd that's easily moved by anything

nah i'm just kidding your a wonderful person
planetcutie

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« Reply #59 on: 09-23-2003 20:50 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
actually my first impressions of futurama
were that it was sentimental

so your wrong there your probably just a nerd that's easily moved by anything

Most things that supposed to be 'moving' just make me nauseous.  Maybe I was moved by certain Futurama episodes because I have personal, bitter experience of unrequited love and poor sibling relationships.
  :)
Rocketboy

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« Reply #60 on: 09-23-2003 21:16 »

Well I can tell you about my story about Futurama

Zoidberg: Here we go......

Well, I really liked Futurama when it was first aired......but then football came on. Fox always preempted Futurama and when they didn't they didn't advertise it. Saying it's all on at 8. and then in a demon voice, they screech: IT DOES NOT START AT 7!!!!!! and then I heard Spanish Fry which was the first episode I saw scince "Kif gets knocked up a notch"
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« Reply #61 on: 09-24-2003 17:09 »

well why not but tv guides
and look in there
Rocketboy

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« Reply #62 on: 09-24-2003 17:39 »

Well I forgot about Futurama till "Spanish Fry"
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #63 on: 09-25-2003 17:32 »

I think it's a dirty shame that Futurama got cancelled by FOX.  I will never watch FOX again because of it.  I used to like King of the Hill, but even that had to get stupid so I quit watching that, too.  I do agree that FOX only wants to promote The Simpsons, but that show has been done to death.  Not only that, FOX also wants to promote shows about dysfunctional families who try to kill each other, deliquant (sp?) teens who get a second chance, reality shows, and American Idol. 

I've always believed FOX hates the living daylights out of Futurama, myself.  Why else did it get preempted for Football and get stuck in that timeslot? 
Habodes

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« Reply #64 on: 09-25-2003 20:30 »

I guess it's the time slot problem or something... I never knew when it was on TV, which was why I didn't get into it until it came out on DVD.

But now it's my favorite show! I only have the season 1 and 2 DVDs, but that was enough to make me love it! I hope I get enough money for the third season DVD. I think that the DVDs are a great way of making the show more popular.

I just wonder how much more I would like it if I knew anything about science fiction, because I'm sure a lot of those jokes went over my head. But I didn't even notice that until it was brought up on this board! I had no clue it was geared more towards sci-fi fans than the general public. (I feel stupid)

I hope they advertise a lot for the DVDs so at least then people will be able to see episodes no matter whether it's on TV or not.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #65 on: 09-25-2003 20:33 »

 
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Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001:
I've always believed FOX hates the living daylights out of Futurama, myself.  Why else did it get preempted for Football and get stuck in that timeslot? 

It got stuck in that timeslot because FOX hated it.  It got preempted for football because it was stuck in that timeslot.
1 of the gang

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« Reply #66 on: 09-25-2003 21:11 »


Everyone!
I'm starting a boycott on all things Fox!
All you have to do is not watch n-e-thing or buy n-e-thing having to do with Fox.They've been pissing me off with cancelling shows every other weekend because of sh*itty movies,but now that they've cancelled easily one of the best shows they've added to their line up in a long time that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

So join me brothers,sisters,and undecided ppl in bringing down the hammer on the dictator known as the Fox broadcasting network. 
  :mad:   :finger:   :evillaugh:
John C
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« Reply #67 on: 09-25-2003 21:19 »

^^^

Been there, done that. That's practically what this site's about now.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #68 on: 09-25-2003 21:31 »

Okay, PEEL has about 3400 members, of which let's say 200 are regular posters.

Probably about half live outside the US, which brings us to 100.

Now let's be optimistic and say half of them boycott FOX - that's 50 PEELers.  Boy, that's really going to hammer the TV network that counts viewers in the millions.
8-ball

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« Reply #69 on: 09-25-2003 21:58 »
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Lol i have to argee     :hmpf:  50 out of millions of veiwers is nothing that will make the fox corperation go bankrupt    :( 
User_names_suck
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« Reply #70 on: 09-26-2003 16:34 »

wow what a novel idea boycotting fox by not watching there shows, genius because i dont know becausei live in the u.k.
but i reckon its gonna be tough to expect people to boycott fox
i mean think of all the great quality shows they make i'm sure most peelers watch fox all day
and in the even of boycotting, well that could probably put them our of buisness, that would really hurt them. yeah what a great idea
PCC Fred

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« Reply #71 on: 09-26-2003 17:34 »

 
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Originally posted by 8-ball:
Lol i have to argee     :hmpf:  50 out of billions of veiwers is nothing that will make the fox corperation go bankrupt    :( 

Millions, 8-ball, millions.
Just Chris

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« Reply #72 on: 09-26-2003 18:42 »

FOX thought Futurama was not "down-to-earth" enough for viewers, but they showed the Glutton Bowl and Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire. FOX sure throws in double standards a lot.
1 of the gang

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« Reply #73 on: 09-26-2003 18:51 »

Okay now u guys r just being mean =( .I just threw that idea out there and ur gonna go and just p*ss all over it.It was just an idea.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #74 on: 09-26-2003 20:24 »

No offence, 1 of the gang, but we came up with the same ideas over a year ago, and the bottom line is even if all 3400 PEELers boycotted FOX, it's a drop in the ocean compared to their average viewing figures.
Gallaher2002
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« Reply #75 on: 09-26-2003 22:47 »

Futurama's rating were actually one of the highest Fox had. I believe the series was cancelled because it had the same number of episodes as the original Star Trek series, and they wanted to go out with a little twist
Baddblood

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« Reply #76 on: 09-27-2003 00:18 »

It's just too brainy for some people.
winna

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« Reply #77 on: 09-27-2003 00:25 »

It's cause everyone is a jerk... You, me, this jerk....
1 of the gang

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« Reply #78 on: 09-27-2003 02:01 »

lol.You guys make a good point...but i dont know...this whole Futurama being cancelled thing just p*sses me off so much that I totally forget how many people would have to boycott something to get it fixed...take Gray Davis in CA for instance we had to have sooooo many signatures just to be able to vote to have him recalled!(but thats another subject)
Slashco

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« Reply #79 on: 09-27-2003 02:37 »
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There was a petition to save the show. If I remember rightly it was one of the largest for any TV show ever made. But Focks didn't really care, they were too busy working on the latest Temptation Island and Who Wants to Marry my Millionnaire Mother Who is Actually Broke and a Man...
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