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ob1spyker

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« on: 08-06-2003 03:42 »

Until I found this site I thought Futurama was dead. I thought I was watching episodes from a long dead series when Adult Swim first started airing Futurama.
As I watched it in sydication I wished for a boxed set and found it. And on that boxed set I gleaned hints from the commentaries that there might still be new episodes airing. Could it be? Might I still be in luck? Had I been thinking of Futurama as Abe Vigoda all this time?
It seems I had. Due to Fox' POOR/ Non-existant promotion of the show I had lost touch with it and thought it cancelled some time after the first season. I had seen plenty of commercials for The Simpson's and King of the Hill, but never anything for Futurama. Oh Fox, why did you mislead me so? I missed so much!
So here it is still on the air, although at 7pm on Sundays sporatically at best, and what do I find now? Only two episodes left and then...
...cancellation.
Why?
Why now?
Why wasn't it given the proper promotion it deserved?
Why don't they get rid of something else?
And most importantly...
...How can I stop it?
I was never the biggest fan of Futurama in the beginning. I had always thought of it as The Simpson's in the 30th century or Matt Groening's vanity project. (Maybe that's how Fox saw it.) However, revisiting it on Cartoon Network made me realize what I had been missing, a wonderfully entertaining show that was light years ahead of the Simpson's.
This is not a show that deserves to be axed! It deserves to be stood up for! A show that draws in my mother-in-law and makes her laugh is not a show to be thought of lightly.
So I ask again of the people here, who actually took the time to read all this crap, what can I do? How do I get the word to Fox that I'm "mad as hell and I'm not going to take it!"

I WANT MY FUTURAMA!

Thank you!


-"Bite my shiny metal ass!"

-"Daddy, he said 'ass'"

-"That's a bad word sweetie!"
El Zilcho

Professor
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« Reply #1 on: 08-06-2003 04:19 »

I agree completely, as does almost everyone else here. We tried a petition, which had many, many names, it was sent to FOX, and they did nothing. We sent letters to the FOX execs, and they did nothing. FOX doesn't want Futurama and they never again will. CN won't bring Futurama back because of the enormous cost of each episode. Give it a month or two, the futility will sink in and you'll become one of us.
Rage Dump

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« Reply #2 on: 08-06-2003 07:23 »

Very well said ob1spyker, and welcome to PEEL, but im afraid theres nothing you can really do unless you have a few million bucks lying around to donate to CN
 
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FOX doesn't want Futurama and they never again will
Im afraid its true, and no other stations (As far as i know. I know nudda about american TV) are rich enough to buy the show, ive heard each episode can cost up to $250,000 or more.
Again, to quote El Zilcho
 
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Give it a month or two, the futility will sink in and you'll become one of us.
ob1spyker

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« Reply #3 on: 08-06-2003 11:10 »

Thanks guys. I guess I will have to come to terms with my frustration and digest the reruns and wait for all the boxed sets.
I actually thought the shows were more expensive than the $250,000 price; something more like over $1,000,000 per episode.
The only other network I think would be a good fit would be The Sci-Fi network. I think it would find a nice little niche there and they do seem to have some pricey original shows, Farscape can't be cheaper to air than Futurama, can it? Maybe we should divert our attention to them?
Well anyhoo, I think I'm going to pop in my dvd's and drown my sorrows in a can of Slurm!

Oh and Fox...   up yours

-"Bite my shiny metal ass!"

-"Daddy, he said 'ass'"

-"That's a bad word sweetie!"
Zack Brannigan

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« Reply #4 on: 08-06-2003 11:39 »

I think that if Futurama eps only cost 250 grand to produce, then CN would definitely air them.  Aquateen Hunger Force eps cost around 55 to 60 grand a piece to make, and they air like 10 new eps of that per year.

I'm fairly sure Futurama is more expensive, with all the 3d modeling and well-known cast involved.
ThreeDLou

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« Reply #5 on: 08-06-2003 11:55 »

Actually, I think Futurama costs upwards of $1 mil to produce or some such.  Didn't CN have the quote on their cute little segues?  It's crazy thinking that 22 minutes cost that much but, in the end it IS worth it.

I miss my animated space delivery friends already.
Slashco

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« Reply #6 on: 08-06-2003 12:10 »

Maybe that's why they are getting rid of all the quality stuff like Family Guy and Futurama and going with more crappy reality shows, because they're cheap?
ThreeDLou

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« Reply #7 on: 08-06-2003 12:13 »

I don't know how cheap it really is when they have to make a new reality show each week because the one before was so horribly bad that they needed to cancel it and replace it with the same dreck. 
You know, when I watch TV, I don't want to see other people living their pathetic lives.  I can do that just fine myself.
El Zilcho

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« Reply #8 on: 08-06-2003 15:08 »

I'll settle this: one ep of Futurama costs (on average) $1.3 milion. And, as ThreeD said, I don't think it's that cheap to make a reality show. The most likely reason for Futurama's cancellation is Groening wanted total creative control, and FOX said "screw you, we'll give you a bad timeslot and stop showing Futurama ads."

How do you toast a grapefruit?
ThreeDLou

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #9 on: 08-06-2003 15:13 »

Let's give it up for Matt!
Let's cry for us!  and Matt.
Let's have a beer for us! 
Hooray for BEER!
SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #10 on: 08-07-2003 04:32 »

Don't even let me get started raggin' on Fux!
<bites own tongue>
Lurrr

Professor
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« Reply #11 on: 08-07-2003 07:23 »

 
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And, as ThreeD said, I don't think it's that cheap to make a reality show.

Considerably cheaper than $1.3 million dollars. The reason we have so many of them on TV is that the networks can just churn them out quickly and without much cost.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #12 on: 08-07-2003 09:52 »
« Last Edit on: 08-07-2003 09:52 »

 
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Originally posted by ob1spyker:
And most importantly...
...How can I stop it?

Well, you can't unless you have a lot of money.  but you can express your feelings, you can send feedback. the link :  http://http://fox.com/community/askfox/ Just look at that list for shows not coming back in the next season...whew...

also, can you believe it! on this site, they actually have a picture for futurama dvd season 2 on the FRONT page: http://http://www.foxhome.com/index_frames.html

also again, they congratulate the staff for the emmy when you enter their futurama page, like they mean it. pfft.
HamNEggs116

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« Reply #13 on: 08-07-2003 14:36 »
« Last Edit on: 08-07-2003 14:36 »

looking at the recent success for Futurama on DVD and on CN. I truly think that if FOX had a chance to do it again we would be seeing more episodes this fall. the biggest problem was that futurama has plenty of fans NOW but during seasons 3, 4 and the begining of 5 the rating really wernt there. If it were possible i think FOX or another network would pick the show back up. But everyone that work on the show has already moved on to new projects in the 2 years since they last worked on the show.
SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #14 on: 08-08-2003 04:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
  Well, you can't unless you have a lot of money.  but you can express your feelings, you can send feedback. the link :  http://http://fox.com/community/askfox/ Just look at that list for shows not coming back in the next season...whew...

also, can you believe it! on this site, they actually have a picture for futurama dvd season 2 on the FRONT page: http://http://www.foxhome.com/index_frames.html

also again, they congratulate the staff for the emmy when you enter their futurama page, like they mean it. pfft.

Fux is schizophrenic.
They cancel Futurama without "cancelling" it.
They spend $1 million plus, per ep.
Then they don't promote the expensive show they've just paid for.
They air the remaining ep's, then schedule
repeats.
Fux Television treats the show like a bastard stepchild, while Fux Home Entertainment promoted the DVD's.

Schizophrenia. *sigh* Go figure...
SwanMan3000

Starship Captain
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« Reply #15 on: 08-08-2003 04:51 »

chelsea foot ball club have just got a new chairman who comes from Russia. he's absolutly loaded and is buying them all sorts of players. So this is to any multi millionaires who like Futurama please step forward and save a dieing show.....also could i borrow some money?
ob1spyker

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« Reply #16 on: 08-08-2003 10:41 »

Does anyone know how many PEELers there are in the know universe?
Futurama_Hil

Urban Legend
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« Reply #17 on: 08-08-2003 10:44 »

at the moment there are 3002
ThreeDLou

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #18 on: 08-08-2003 13:22 »

Hey, if everyone here coughed up about $500, we could get one more show!
C'mon! 
Really!
Coop

Professor
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« Reply #19 on: 08-08-2003 14:06 »

 
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
 Fux is schizophrenic.
They cancel Futurama without "cancelling" it.
They spend $1 million plus, per ep.
Then they don't promote the expensive show they've just paid for.
They air the remaining ep's, then schedule
repeats.
Fux Television treats the show like a bastard stepchild, while Fux Home Entertainment promoted the DVD's.

Schizophrenia. *sigh* Go figure...

I agree, the show could have been a goldmine for Fox if they would have just promoted it right! But the show got overrun by simpsons re runs and Football.



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fry2006

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« Reply #20 on: 08-08-2003 14:07 »

I'm sending a letter to Fux containing SO many curse words...
ob1spyker

Crustacean
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« Reply #21 on: 08-09-2003 02:34 »

You heard it here PEELer's, open up your pocketbooks and cough up $500.00 each and we'll have $1,501,000 to spend on one more episode.

Or we can just spend $30.00 and get the complete second season.

OR, we can spend $530.00 and get the complete second season AND a brand new episode!

Whatdayall think?
Spice Weasel

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #22 on: 08-09-2003 02:37 »
« Last Edit on: 08-09-2003 02:37 »

I'm in for $530

EDIT:

Coop, your avatar rules.
Jolly Mon

Bending Unit
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« Reply #23 on: 08-09-2003 23:40 »

$530 right here baby!
ob1spyker

Crustacean
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« Reply #24 on: 08-10-2003 01:29 »

Oh yeah, I never ponied up my $530.00!

Think of how many anchovies we can buy with this money!

Hey ... how about instead of petitions we all send FOX cans of anchovies to show them how we feel about taking the show off the air?
SpaceCase

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #25 on: 08-10-2003 05:11 »

They'd have to be "Angry Norwegian" anchovies.
Do you have any idea how hard those are to find?
 wink
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