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HoosierBot

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« on: 07-28-2003 16:25 »

I know most people have heard speculation, but I just grabbed this little note off of www.darkhorizons.com,  it was posted today.

Animated Movies: Some interesting deveopments in the toon community in the past week or so according to Animated Movies. Most notably, Dreamworks head of animation Ann Daly admitted that the studio was "extremely disappointed" with the performance of "Sinbad" at the U.S. box office, and confirmed that it would be the studio's last traditionally drawn film - "I think the idea of a traditional story being told using traditional animation is likely a thing of the past" says Jeffrey Kaztenberg. Pixar's "The Incredibles" has got a rumoured cast including Craig T. Nelson as Mr. Incredible, Samuel L. Jackson as his nemesis, Jason Lee, Holly Hunter and Wallace Shawn. Disney's David Stainton confirmed that he has teams developing CG adaptations of both classic fantasy tales "Rapunzel" and "The Snow Queen". Finally, "Simpsons" creator Matt Groening is trying to come up with ways to produce new episodes of the cancelled "Futurama" as well as a movie trilogy based on the series. Thanks to 'Antoine'.
fry2006

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« Reply #1 on: 07-28-2003 16:30 »

YAY!
bboynfuel

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« Reply #2 on: 07-28-2003 16:35 »

I posted this below in another topic titled "Could the Series Live on..."
CyberKnight

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« Reply #3 on: 07-28-2003 16:41 »

I don't think anyone ever doubted that MG would try to keep the show running in any form. Still, it's a valid bit of news. Thanks.
blahness

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« Reply #4 on: 07-28-2003 16:41 »

no real new news there though we have known for months that they want to make a Futurama movie.  My guess is that this has come up in light of what Matt Groening talked about at the Comic Con in San Diego
FishyJoe

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« Reply #5 on: 07-28-2003 16:43 »

Way to kill animation as we know it, Katzenjerk!

Also, this is nothing new, but a Futurama movie sure would rock. They could take their time with it, to ensure both maximum funniness and maximum shippiness.
Bendo

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« Reply #6 on: 07-28-2003 17:04 »

I agree that this is all speculation based on what was said at the Comic Con and I will believe it when I see it.
Too bad about Dreamworks ceasing production on their animated movies and opting for non-traditional methods. I think the medium will continue to live on but the movie has to be good to survive - just because an animated movie fails is not becuase it uses traditional means to produce it.
Also on the horizon from Dreamworks is Shrek 2, Sharkslayer and an animated television show called Father of the Pride. Sharkslayer has some pretty heavyweight movie stars in it. It is an underwater tale of a fish who saves his neighberhood. If interested I can post more on it as well as who is lending their voice to this project.
RM
BNLbum

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« Reply #7 on: 07-28-2003 18:02 »

 
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Sharkslayer has some pretty heavyweight movie stars in it. It is an underwater tale of a fish who saves his neighberhood.

I'm interested, although it sounds a bit like what happened with Antz... Kind of a rip off.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #8 on: 07-28-2003 19:51 »

Oooooooold news.
Ricky

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« Reply #9 on: 07-28-2003 19:55 »

As far as Futurama is concerned, old news usually are the best kind of news.
NoAPOlogies

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« Reply #10 on: 07-29-2003 01:02 »

Movie TRILOGY? Wow, not just one movie, but 3. But I worry if people are gonna forget about the show if the movie(s) are released too long after the final episode. We won't forget about it, but others might
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #11 on: 07-29-2003 01:05 »

I doubt there will ever be 3 movies made, 1 if we are lucky.
bboynfuel

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« Reply #12 on: 07-29-2003 10:38 »

In addition to the movies, I thought it would be cool if instead of being shown on television, just make the shows made for DVD/VHS.  The sales of the DVDs have been wonderful, and I think that trend would continue.  That is, if there isn't a way to get the show back on TV.
Gocad

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« Reply #13 on: 07-29-2003 10:47 »

The question is, would you make enough money with the DVDs alone in order to get back the money one would have to spend in order to make new episodes?

I doubt that somehow...
NoAPOlogies

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« Reply #14 on: 07-29-2003 11:11 »

I agree Gocad. If by some miracle Cartoon Network buys additional seasons and airs them, that's the only way DVD sales would cover the cost of production. But weren't there a few episodes that did not get aired at all? They could make a DVD from those.
catindisguise

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« Reply #15 on: 07-29-2003 12:02 »

I would LOVE to see a futurama movie.  I think matt Groening should set up another tv station just showing goos programs eg FUTURAMA!!!!!!!!1
MattyB

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« Reply #16 on: 07-29-2003 16:21 »

A movie trilogy?! With the right ideas, this could be fantastic.
Bendo

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« Reply #17 on: 07-29-2003 22:43 »

 
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Originally posted by BNLbum:
 I'm interested, although it sounds a bit like what happened with Antz... Kind of a rip off.
Here they are:
Will Smith
Robert De Niro
Renee Zellweger
Angelina Jolie
Jack Black
Martin Scorsese
Peter Falk
Micheal Imperioli (from the Sopranos)
Vincente Pastore (also from the Sopranos)
Kevin Pollak
Ziggy Marley
Doug E. Doug
For more info go to www.sharkslayer.com
RM

spacepilot3000

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« Reply #18 on: 07-29-2003 23:23 »
« Last Edit on: 07-29-2003 23:23 »

If anyone has any ideas for a Futurama Movie, go to my "Futurama Movie Ideas!" thread.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #19 on: 07-30-2003 05:32 »

 
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Originally posted by NoAPOlogies:
But weren't there a few episodes that did not get aired at all? They could make a DVD from those.

Not anymore. By the end of August 10th, every produced episode of Futurama will have been aired at least once on FOX.

And the problem with Direct-to-DVD is that producing a number of episodes requires a huge outlay of cash (somewhere in the region of $500,000-$750,000 per episode). And there's no guarantee that you will get that back; in fact, while admittedly the sales of the DVD's have been fantastic wherever they're sold, they don't even come close to covering the cost of production.  And CN simply doesn't have the budget to order new episodes, unless several production values were heavily cut (which I would not want to see, personally).

M Jackson
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« Reply #20 on: 07-30-2003 07:28 »

Why doesn't Greoning try to get the Futurama movies funded by Dreamworks? I know they don't want to release anymore traditionaly drawn animated films, but Futurama relies heavily on CGI, and it's already an established, liked, show. So it's less of a risk for Dreamworks. I think the reason that many of Dreamworks traditonal animated films fail is because people simply don't like the new characters that are featured in them. Many of their movies are slightly outdated, and too bible-related (The Prince of Egypt). Kids just don't want to see these films, even if they are well made! Futurama has a much wider appeal.
Grim

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« Reply #21 on: 07-30-2003 08:57 »

If there was a futurama movie, it would have to be 20th Century Fox behind it, they wouldnt give up their film rights to it easily, and buying the rights wouldnt come cheap
sheep555

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« Reply #22 on: 07-30-2003 09:24 »

 
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Originally posted by M Jackson:
Why doesn't Greoning try to get the Futurama movies funded by Dreamworks?

Because Dreamworks already have a five film deal with Aardman (having already released Chicken Run, and currently shooting the second release), at a cost of well over $50 million. You can have such a thing as too many animations on the go at once.
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #23 on: 07-30-2003 10:43 »

I think Grim is right.  Dreamworks would have to buy the rights from Dreamworks, and that could be extremely expensive.

On the other note, I really hate seeing how Dreamworks lost faith in traditional animation.  There's nothing wrong with traditional animation.  If you ask me, it has more to do with the film companies themselves.  Note that these CGI films are always better written and have better characters.  Dreamworks, Disney, etc. just have to do a better writing job with their traditionally animated films, and they need to promote their movies a bit more.  I for one don't remember ever seeing a TV ad for Sinbad.  I barely knew it existed.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #24 on: 07-30-2003 14:08 »

 
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Originally posted by sheep555:
 Because Dreamworks already have a five film deal with Aardman (having already released Chicken Run, and currently shooting the second release), at a cost of well over $50 million. You can have such a thing as too many animations on the go at once.

Chicken Run came out like a million years ago. How long have they been working on this second movie?

Surely they could squeeze out a Futurama movie or two between their Aardman efforts.
sheep555

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« Reply #25 on: 07-30-2003 14:14 »

Going off on a tangent, they (Aardman) started shooting the second film based on the Tortoise and the Hare, but half way through production ran into script problems and cancelled production. So, they switched round and have just started filming the new Wallace and Grommit movie (at a big cost to DreamWorks).
Bobby King

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« Reply #26 on: 07-30-2003 14:34 »
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look at http://www.darkhorizons.com/TV/index.htm
then futurama season 5 episode 6

(its have nothing with the movies to do, but ist the same page)
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