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Akito01

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« Reply #40 on: 07-27-2003 22:41 »

I take it no one else had ever owned one of those Timex Sinclair computers to get the lack of memory joke?

I thought it was a pretty good episode all round.  Loved the Phillip K Dick-ish style ending.  It's actually very clever when you think about what the upgrade-compatibility conversion is meant to do.  If a robot is sentient, then what is the process by which you modify it's behaviour?

In the beginning the Universe was created.  This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Future Angel
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« Reply #41 on: 07-27-2003 22:48 »

I didn't think I was going to like this episode, considering I don't really like most of thh Bender-centric episodes, but it was better than I thought it would be. I laughed out loud a few times, but I can't actually remember when. I was horrified when the ship got smashed up by the rock, but considering it was only a dream type of thing while Bender was getting his upgrade I guess it's okay. I had no idea what Bender was going to do when it showed the establishing shot of Cookieville, but then it went inside and he destroyed the night light. That was just to mean. I loved the opening tag line, I laughed out loud at that.

i just can't believe that I'm going on holidays 2 weeks tomorrow and by then the other 2 episodes will have ended.   frown
SQFreak

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« Reply #42 on: 07-27-2003 23:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Akito01:
If a robot is sentient, then what is the process by which you modify it's behaviour?

By teaching it a lesson! Teaching it acceptance through experience - exactly what happened. My guess is that Bender was hooked up to the port that we saw in "Hell is Other Robots" and "Love and Rocket" and a vision was injected into him. The vision was customized (hence the "everyone experiences the upgrade in a different way" comment) to Bender's personality type and the experience he would learn the best from.
Also, that explains the fact that Amy's hair grew back for the next episode in production order. It doesn't explain how "Bend Her" was in 3004 and "Obsoletely Fabulous" was in 3003 (made clear by signs in each). They did it to confuse us!

Before I get too off-topic, it was a good episode, especially seeing low-tech Bender. I personally thought Bender would be becoming a 1X, but, oh well.
There were funny parts, and no one can deny it. Though I can't help but feel like these later episodes of Futurama are starting to feel a heck of a lot more like The Simpsons...

7 out of 10

"I'm a thing!" -Bender, in "A Fishful of Dollars"

"Watching television shows doesn't create psycho killers; cancelling TV shows does!" --Scary Movie
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #43 on: 07-27-2003 23:19 »
« Last Edit on: 07-27-2003 23:19 »

A decent episode, but not really a good one.

The first act or so was very funny, especially the robot trade show.  I thought I might be in for a great episode.  But as soon as Bender went off in his boat I started thinking it would go downhill.  And so it did.  Most of the stuff on the island was pretty boring, and as someone else pointed out, Bender just starts acting crazy again; I got bad flashbacks to "A Pharoah to Remember."  Things picked up a little when he finally gets back to the other PE crew (I liked when he had to explain about freeing them from the complicated part, not their lives).  But the it-was-all-a-dream ending was bad, especially since this was technically just two episodes after "The Sting," that most holy of Futurama episodes.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #44 on: 07-27-2003 23:20 »

 
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Originally posted by Akito01:
I take it no one else had ever owned one of those Timex Sinclair computers to get the lack of memory joke?

That joke is quasi-similar to a joke from The Simpsons.

"Everytime I try to learn something, I forget something else. Like that time I learned how to make wine, and forgot how to drive."

Or somesuch.
blahness

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« Reply #45 on: 07-27-2003 23:28 »
« Last Edit on: 07-28-2003 00:00 »

i thought tonights episode was better than the past 3... bend her was kind of disturbing... though i intend to watch it again... i loved how bender rolled away in the garbage can lol the return of roberto, "im going to wash my linens so hard!" this episode was great! 4.5/5
comiccollector5

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« Reply #46 on: 07-27-2003 23:51 »

 Great episode, one of the best ones this season ivee seen, cartridge bot was awesome, and the whole message to the planes, but the only reason it wasnt good because it was all a dream.
Zack Brannigan

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« Reply #47 on: 07-27-2003 23:59 »

This episode was bad, in my opinion, and saved only by the antics of the other obsolete robots.  Of the last five eps, this definitely ranks on the bottom for me. 

"Obsoletely Fabulous" reminded me of another episode ("I Dated a Robot" ), because it had great potential and didn't go anywhere.  If the entire plot had been "Let's destroy technology!" from the get-go, I think I would have liked it more.  But it just took too long to get where it was going.

Grade: C
bankrupt

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« Reply #48 on: 07-28-2003 00:00 »

I really liked this episode, much better than last weeks dull fest.  The cassette robot was great, especially when it said the "your mother" line. I liked seeing Fatbot and Roberto making guest appearances.  Some really nice 3D animation in this episode as well.  I give it my seal of approval.
getak2003

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« Reply #49 on: 07-28-2003 00:00 »

ok, ok, im kinda freaking out now, lando has not been updated since spanish fry and unlike other lazy asses on this board i have a job on sundays so i miss these new futuramas....

i have missed the last two bender ones, but by reading what you say, it's now big sheit, if you all think they are crappy, then i know i will be deleting my hard downloaded downloads.

what's left anyway? just devil hands right?
Coop

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« Reply #50 on: 07-28-2003 00:02 »

 
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Originally posted by getak2003:
ok, ok, im kinda freaking out now, lando has not been updated since spanish fry and unlike other lazy asses on this board i have a job on sundays so i miss these new futuramas....

i have missed the last two bender ones, but by reading what you say, it's now big sheit, if you all think they are crappy, then i know i will be deleting my hard downloaded downloads.

what's left anyway? just devil hands right?

And "bender should not be allowed on TV"

oy...3 bender eps in a row.



The official CARLITO of PEEL
getak2003

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« Reply #51 on: 07-28-2003 00:06 »

so we have one more crappy bender one (i have not seen the eps and i'm already tired of him) then we shippers get our final and hopefull good (if fox know's what's good for'em) episode about fry and leela finally falling in love.

better be good, my hard drive needs space and futurama is first on my hit list if it turns out bad.
Kryten

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« Reply #52 on: 07-28-2003 00:15 »

Weren't you supposed to leave?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #53 on: 07-28-2003 00:41 »

Fer crying out loud, Amy's burnt hair was a JOKE, people!  Nothing more.  Even if it wasn't a dream, they definetely wouldn't have had her have the burnt hair an episode later.  Its not THAT continuous.

As for "three crappy Bender episodes in a row", first off it just depends on the content of them.  These last two were pretty empty, and though "Bend Her" I found very funny "Obsolutely Fabulous" was kind of weak(though, it is entirely subjective for each person).  But the final of them, "Bender Should Not be Allowed on Tv", is supposedly very good, and sounds like a great satirical episode.  Episodes like "Godfellas" are certainly better then "Bender Gets Made"s, and "Pharaoh to Remember"s, but that still means Bender can have the occasional true gem.
Bleah

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« Reply #54 on: 07-28-2003 00:46 »

There was an interesting shot of Leela!

NoAPOlogies

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« Reply #55 on: 07-28-2003 00:48 »

Hey hey hey. I liked this episode. I work on sunday nights so I never get to see Futurama, but I did... gulp... download this one. Sorry folks, but I will buy the season 3 and 4 DVDs when they come out. Bender was quite good throughout. I liked the Water Powered robot who freaked out when she ran out of water. Certainly better than some Bender heavy episodes, but worse than others. I liked Robonanny 1.0, and the Professor's and Wernstrum's killbots. I am getting sick of these episodes where all these things happen and it was all part of someone's dream, like The Sting. Nothing between Leela and Fry, and the lack of Zoidberg was a little disheartening. Overall, good episode. 9 thumbs up
UsualNoise
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« Reply #56 on: 07-28-2003 01:42 »

I'd say B+ ... I really enjoyed it.

To those who are tired of all these Bender eps "in a row" remember that the production order makes more sense ... it's only the Fox scheduling that puts three Bender-centric eps together.  Either way, it's disappointing to know there's only two more new eps left of this landmark show.  Long live Futurama!!
getak2003

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« Reply #57 on: 07-28-2003 01:43 »
« Last Edit on: 07-28-2003 01:43 »

yeah, that pic is all this fan eye candy you all talk and rave about, still not im my tastes, but i will let you make your own opinions about it.

as for long live futurama, too bad, already dead! and for those who think i left for good, you still have to wait until i see the last two episodes for that to happen, sorry if i dissapointed anyone here. that is unless you ban me for thinking differently,

don't worry, some quick hate filled reviews of lousy episodes or long love filled reviews for good episodes is all i will be doing on this one type of thread...hopefully.

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« Reply #58 on: 07-28-2003 01:56 »

I liked the episode a lot. I laughed the whole way through. I liked the part where the Mom had them sort change, and Bender just stole it, that's classic Bender.
BNLbum

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« Reply #59 on: 07-28-2003 01:58 »

 
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Originally posted by getak2003:
and for those who think i left for good, you still have to wait until i see the last two episodes for that to happen, sorry if i dissapointed anyone here.

Me!

Binder

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« Reply #60 on: 07-28-2003 02:18 »

notable funny parts:
-Bender in the trash can on his face yelling I hate him!
-Bender and installing the dish
-Bender walking with his eyes
Mango

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« Reply #61 on: 07-28-2003 02:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Coop:
or wizards, thats always a likely possibility.
Oh sure, blame the wizards.  tongue

I didn't think this episode was astounding or anything, but I had fun watching it and that's what counts.  ...I think.  My favorite line was probably the "Save my friends! And Zoidberg!" My poor poor beloved Zoidberg  love


 
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Originally posted by getak2003:
and for those who think i left for good, you still have to wait until i see the last two episodes for that to happen, sorry if i dissapointed anyone here.

Noooooo!  my worst nightmares have come true! *cries* Make him go away, he's scary!  cry
FishyJoe

Honorary German
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« Reply #62 on: 07-28-2003 02:34 »

Three Bender episodes in a row IS too much. And did you notice the PE crew watching All My Circuits? That means it's not only three Bender episodes in a row, but three Bender/Calculon episodes in a row.

I thought Obsoletely Fabulous was boring. I don't like the long stretches of Bender talking to himself. It reminded me too much of Godfellas.
Timo

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« Reply #63 on: 07-28-2003 02:46 »

I am glad that they actually managed to work Deluxor in before the end of the series.  I thought that was a great idea.

Anybody remember what the hell I am talking about?
Zed 85

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« Reply #64 on: 07-28-2003 03:51 »

Can't say I do Timo.

It was an okay ep - it had it's highlights but was ultimately lacking a fair bit off the likes of some of the best episodes we've seen.

I really liked the obsolete robots though, especially the fact that the water-works one looks like one of the Martians from the old Smash Mash adverts.  big grin

I suppose it is a reference to Fight Club, but the music, if nothing else, as they go around wrecking everything actually reminds me of the Soviet invasion of New York in Red Alert 2.

Oh well where was I? Not too bad, but not brilliant at the same time. C+
squishy_alien

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« Reply #65 on: 07-28-2003 05:44 »

I haven't hated this season as much as some of you.  I think the past few episodes will play well on DVD.  This episode had some choice moments.  The only thing truly bad about it was the complete lack of the PE crew through most of it, but that was probably necessary considering most of it was just going on in Bender's mind.
Zoidbee

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« Reply #66 on: 07-28-2003 06:16 »

For those of you who dont know, originally in A Fishful of Dollars, with his wealth Fry bought an entirely wood robot called Deluxor but it was cut. It is mentioned in the Audio Commentry for AFoD.
Juliet

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« Reply #67 on: 07-28-2003 08:23 »
« Last Edit on: 07-28-2003 08:23 »

Pretty good episode I like the "Castaway" sceene, and Bender made out of wood. also love the end where the fairy light up a cigar for Bender and Bender said "Thanks baby" that the cutest thing I have ever seen    love

for got to mention that I liked the robots that Bender met on the irland. I love the monkey.

edeltraut

Spelling Nazi
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« Reply #68 on: 07-28-2003 09:07 »

 
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Originally posted by getak2003:
that is unless you ban me for thinking differently,

Oh, please. People want to see you go because you've been a general nuisance and trolling other threads, not because you "think differently". And so far you've done nothing banworthy.


And the episode - I liked it a lot better than Bend Her. Or maybe it just looked really good in comparison. It wasn't that memorable, but still funny. I don't like the way they used the "it was all just a dream" plot twist twice in one season, but it made sense in the episode so I wouldn't take away any points for that. I was kinda worried that they would keep reusing the waterwheel joke, so I was relieved when it was left to twice (or was it three times? I need to watch the episode again). I rate it a 3 or a 4.

Teral

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« Reply #69 on: 07-28-2003 10:56 »

I'll definetely call it an improvement on "Bend Her", at least Bender wise.

Admittedly the abscence of the rest of the PE crew for most of act 2 and 3 hurt this episode a lot, but Bender was pretty good.

Several good moments in this one, like the waterwheel bot. "AHHHH! I'll never make it this time!!" and Sinclair.

Nice to see Roberto again, and hear his stapping sound.

The start of the robot show was good, Mom were not so good.

Overall good Benderific episode, solid Futurama episode. 7.5/10.

"Save my friends .. and Zoidberg."

 
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Originally posted by getak2003:
 you still have to wait until i see the last two episodes for that to happen, sorry if i dissapointed anyone here. that is unless you ban me for thinking differently,

Wether you call it "thinking differently" or "onesided negative ranting" doesn't change the fact it's repetitive and annoying. If you made some constructive contributions to the forum, rather than just these "I hate what Futurama have become" monolouges...
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #70 on: 07-28-2003 11:00 »

This episode was okay.  Not too good, not too bad.  The main problem I have with it is that it was similar with Spanish Fry in the respect that it started good but ended weak.  I thought Obsoletely Fabulous was really funny at the beginning.  But once Bender met those anti-technology robots, the episode became boring.  Everything after that just wasn't interesting or funny at all.  Although I thought the very, very end of it  (i.e. the scene with the unicorn) was hilarious.

3/5
Fing-longer

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« Reply #71 on: 07-28-2003 11:44 »

Didn't like it much, though my wife thought it was good. At least it gave me a few good laughs...

"Your mother"
"Well, guess I'd better find me some shelter...Guess I'll go out for a while"
Bender as a lighthouse "BZMMMMMMM"
"Now turn around"
The six trapped ducks

But as all of these occured within about 3 minutes, I can't give thumbs up to the whole episode. Overall, I'd say it's my third-to-least favorite.
sheep555

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« Reply #72 on: 07-28-2003 12:39 »

...for those UK people who have yet to view the episode, it's going to be shown on 10th August, 7:00PM (Sky 1)  smile
Damitol

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« Reply #73 on: 07-28-2003 12:51 »
« Last Edit on: 07-28-2003 12:51 »

I'm really starting to wonder if the shippers have taken over the board, thereby explaining the overall negative slant the majority of reviews have taken concening the recent run of episodes.  I like the whole Fry/Leela arc as much as the next person - but I watch Futurama more for the laughs, and the last three have been full of them.

Once Bender got to the island, this one really took off for me.  Lots of great gags.  A few were predictable but fun, and others caught me completely by surprise (plugging in the blender).

From the title card gag ("Prove That None of This Happened" ) to our first real glimpse of how Bender sees the world (and that explains *a lot* about him), this was a really "smart" episode, addressing some thought provoking themes (technophobia, fear of change, dealing with feelings of inadequacy, the true nature of "reality" ) wrapped inside a ton of clever gags.

God I'm going to miss this show.  Where else am I ever going to hear a line like "I'm a steam powered, wooden robot - just as nature intended!".

Other favorite line: Leela's "Oh good lord, he's made of wood."  I've laughed twice just typing it.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #74 on: 07-28-2003 13:17 »

 
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Originally posted by Damitol:
I'm really starting to wonder if the shippers have taken over the board, thereby explaining the overall negative slant the majority of reviews have taken concening the recent run of episodes.
Mental note: Damitol knows too much....
Binder

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« Reply #75 on: 07-28-2003 13:43 »

Did a lot of people simultaneously loose their sence of humor last night? Bender trying to survive on an island without technology...what ISN'T funny about that?! There were TONS of great robot jokes as well as sight gags. I laughed the most at Bender moving around: the garbage can, the wooden Bender, the no arms no legs eye walking Bender etc.
Just because Fry is the star does not mean you need to see him in every episode.
Fing-longer

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« Reply #76 on: 07-28-2003 14:13 »

We gotta call them as we see them...

If we compared last night's episode to every other show on TV, then yes, it was brilliant.

But if we compare them to other episodes of Futurama...then sorry, neither the plot nor the lack of jokes satisfied (yes, Bender's first hours on the island were great, [especially Bender's "shelter"] but the lack of technology didn't have enough jokes-per-minute).

And if an episode has a lack of jokes, then character development had better be the trade-off. I see no character dev.
Invader_Tak

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« Reply #77 on: 07-28-2003 14:19 »

 
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Originally posted by getak2003:
yeah, that pic is all this fan eye candy you all talk and rave about, still not im my tastes, but i will let you make your own opinions about it.

as for long live futurama, too bad, already dead! and for those who think i left for good, you still have to wait until i see the last two episodes for that to happen, sorry if i dissapointed anyone here. that is unless you ban me for thinking differently,

Oh your HIGHNESS will LET us make our own opinions about it. Oh THANK you.

 I hate to break the news to you, but you
are not that important, you are another loser troll who got spanked off of usenet.

 No one really gives a damn WHAT your opinion is, and if you DID get banned it wouldn't be for "Thinking Diffrently" it would be for being altogether too common a form of asshole.

 Get over yourself, you are NOT that important.

Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #78 on: 07-28-2003 17:21 »

i missed the first minute, didn't get to see the caption.  anyway, it wasn't the best but one of the better bender eps this season.  i didn't get to see bend her last week since i have no idea when it's on in the west, luckily i caught this one. i think it's better than spanish fry but i wish the rest of the crew were in it more. i like the island robots. also the whole fire scene was interesting (save my friends...and zoidberg!) but amy's due almost made me puke! i never liked her from the start, but now! hehe. also good to see roberto back before the end. oh, and i like the scene where they're trashing the city. good music! 
B+
getak2003

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« Reply #79 on: 07-28-2003 23:21 »

wow, you guys really DO hate me!

and all this time i thought it was just more of a passive agressive love hate sorta thing....
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