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SQFreak

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« Reply #120 on: 09-14-2003 23:24 »
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Why wasn't "The Sting" eligible? Was it because the show was cancelled?

EDIT: TOTPD!
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #121 on: 09-14-2003 23:26 »

The nomination period ended May 31.  "The Sting" aired June 1.
SQFreak

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« Reply #122 on: 09-14-2003 23:33 »

Oh, you know FOX delayed Futurama for exactly that reason - so they didn't have to look dumb for cancelling an Emmy-winning show.
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #123 on: 09-15-2003 00:04 »
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Well, while there may be instances of dog loyalty the thing that I don't like is how fabricated Seymore was. Suddenly out of nowhere In season 4 Fry remembers, "Oh, yeah I had a dog...even tho I kept quiet about it for 4 years."  But Hell, at least they did it once and then were done with it, and not OVER and OVER again like some other shows (and movies) I care not to mention.

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Oh, you know FOX delayed Futurama for exactly that reason - so they didn't have to look dumb for cancelling an Emmy-winning show

If your claim is correct they were trying not to look dumb cancelling a 3-time emmy award winning show.  How they ended up was cancelling just a 2-time emmy award winning show.

Fox, from the interweb's heart, I flame at thee!
[-mArc-]

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« Reply #124 on: 09-15-2003 00:55 »
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:Of course, the PC vote, as [-mArc-] hinted at on CGEF, probably swung it.

Please do not blame me or my people for this tragedy. I'm gay and Jurassic Park still would've gotten my vote.

Well, I didn't blame any person really. Neither do I have a problem with gay people at all. The thing is that the Simpsons picked up a topic which is heavily courted especially in LA. It's not the first time that they won the Emmy with an episode about gay people, if I remember correctly (1997). It could've been about several other fightworthy things, and still I'd say they didn't think much about helping this fight when they submitted it to the Emmys.
You'll notice how some song called "We are all children of this world" or any such won the best song award. Personal agendas of the jurors certainly show at the Emmys and the Simpsons crew is well aware of that.
I call blunder in their intend to submit, not the topic at hand.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #125 on: 09-15-2003 01:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Pitt Clemens:
Suddenly out of nowhere In season 4 Fry remembers, "Oh, yeah I had a dog...even tho I kept quiet about it for 4 years."
Stuff like that is often inserted in the lives of TV characters.  You might as well complain that Fry had never mentioned his lucky clover before "Luck of the Fryrish" or that Leela had never mentioned her bracelet before "Leela's Homeworld."
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #126 on: 09-15-2003 02:07 »

 
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Stuff like that is often inserted in the lives of TV characters.  You might as well complain that Fry had never mentioned his lucky clover before "Luck of the Fryrish" or that Leela had never mentioned her bracelet before "Leela's Homeworld."

[Morbo] Puny human, I recognize the development of props such as lucky clovers and braclets.  Such things are easily overlooked, but creating a dog is a different matter.  I am sickened that a secondary afterthought in the development of premise be tacked on to the show for "Puppysploitation."  While such pitiful things as trinkets you have mentioned can easily be overlooked, such things as loveable dogs are typical parcels of reflection and whitfulness.  It is for this reason pitiful human writers use them as devices to squeese tears from the ducts of other mere squishy humanoids.  My race will crush their necks, and use their tiny skulls for our Emmys.  BWAHAHAHAHAHA. [/Morbo]
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #127 on: 09-15-2003 03:00 »
« Last Edit on: 09-15-2003 03:00 »

You're just angry because they killed the dog, aren't you?  Ha ha!

But seriously, it's interesting, because we know from the beginning that the dog is dead, but it still affects us.
canned eggs

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« Reply #128 on: 09-15-2003 03:07 »

I'm a little surprised at how mad I am that the Simpsons won.  But it's honestly the worst travesty I can ever remember at an awards show, and I'm a bloody-minded cynic of the worst kind when it comes to award shows. 

A friend told me today that Jurassic Bark was the best episode he had ever seen of any animated show, and I might just agree with him. 3 gays of the Condo, however, was utter drivel.  The Simpsons did a "gay" episode in like 1997, with John Waters, and it was flawless.  All the jokes were funny, and all the serious stuff was dead-on.  Now, in their pathetic decline, they trot out this inane, unfunny, pedestrian, utterly trivial hack job, and they get handed an Emmy just for showing up.  Now Jurassic Bark will remain forever unremembered, having never received what it so obviously deserves.

How could a single Emmy voter have felt that this was the right choice to make?  Even one?  I can't imagine the depth of soullessness it must take to believe that 3 Gays of the Condo was honestly better that Jurassic Bark.  I want to kill someone.

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winna

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« Reply #129 on: 09-15-2003 03:17 »

Jurassic Bark was still an episode about a dumb dog... I only got out of it was that there's an evil nibblonian hiding in a trashcan somewhere, Bender has 130% of different elements in him with 40% being dogamite and that the professor can use the aid of wizards to pull the same cord that turns out to be made of different things...  That dog should've died a long time ago when someone leveled a shotgun to his head... hehe  >: D
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #130 on: 09-15-2003 03:29 »

*sits back, waiting for winna to be mauled by JB lovers*
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #131 on: 09-15-2003 03:40 »

*prepares 'mauling' weapons, is in insanity mode*

NOBODY INSULTS MY BOYFRIEND'S DEAD DOG! AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!

*attacks winna*

How can you hate a dog that sings "I'm Walking On Sunshine"?
winna

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« Reply #132 on: 09-15-2003 03:54 »

C'mon it was a dirty dog that Fry found in the street, probably behind a dumpster somewhere...  They musta forgot to mention that in the show  wink
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #133 on: 09-15-2003 04:00 »

But Seymour is so cute! I've always been a dog person (though not allowed to have one because of my parents' allergies and brother's asthma). It's not a favorite episode of mine but you can't hate the end of the episode where the dog is still waiting for Fry... it was sad.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #134 on: 09-15-2003 04:12 »
« Last Edit on: 09-15-2003 04:12 »

   
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
Of course, the PC vote, as [-mArc-] hinted at on CGEF, probably swung it.

Please do not blame me or my people for this tragedy. I'm gay and Jurassic Park still would've gotten my vote.

I'm sorry, that wasn't what I meant - what I meant was that the jury chose "Three Gays" because (as [-mArc-] said) it's a topic rarely touched upon (although I don't know how you feel, but I would have thought "Three Gays" didn't put it across particularly well).

Put simply, what I meant by the "PC vote" is that it feels like the judges said "They're championing gay rights - that makes the episode good" despite the fact the episode itself isn't that good. (At the very least, in comparison to Jurassic Bark).

I certainly didn't mean to offend you or anyone like you, and I apologise for that.
Lt. Kroker

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« Reply #135 on: 09-15-2003 12:31 »

I think it's a travesty that the jurors went for the obvious vote and what is basically a vastly inferior version of the brilliant 'Homer's Phobia', but at least Futurama's won one emmy. There are loads of great genre shows that have been entirely ignored by the academy over the years, and I think it's good that a show with a relatively small cult following can win anything at all.
boingo2000

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« Reply #136 on: 09-15-2003 12:41 »

I think it's too bad Futurama was passed over, but al least it was nominated.  And I'm glad I can keep calling Roswell That Ends Well 'the Emmy episode' as opposed to 'the Emmy episode that didn't make my cry.'  Somewhat less manly, that.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #137 on: 09-15-2003 22:34 »

Winna, you missed the point.  Jurassic Bark wasn't about a dog at all.  It used the dog as a plot device to study Fry and Bender's relationship.  Not that the dog scenes weren't touching, mind you (I nearly cried, I can tell you that).

Regarding Three Gays again, and the Simpsons' decline:

MG has almost NOTHING, NADA, ZIP, ZILCH to do with The Simpsons after season three.  If anything, Sam Simon did more for the show then he did past the original shorts.  He admitted in 1994 that "I could drop off the face of the earth and the show would go along just fine".  Unless you think the show became shit in 1992, let that argument go.

As far as Three Gays goes, the episode had nothing to do with advocating gay rights.  Not that I disagree with that cause (I do agree with it), and I can also agree that the mere usage of the gay theme may have influenced the emmy voters.  But its not an "inferior version of Homer's Phobia" because the two have nothing to do with each other.  Homer's Phobia specifically analyzes issues about homophobia, while Three Gays uses it as a plot device (similar to Seymour) to examine Marge and Homer's relationship.  There are episodes like "Two Cars in every Garage..." and "Sideshow Bob Roberts", or "Bart's Dog gets an 'F'" and "Dog of Death" that borrow far more from each other then Homer's Phobia and Three Gays.

I liked Jurassic Bark more.  But, I'll say it again, people who detest Three Gays no longer understand their own arguments about the show currently being bad.  Bash "Pray Anything" instead.
Seymour

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« Reply #138 on: 09-15-2003 23:17 »

*looks at my username*

*looks at my avatar*

Just guess how pissed I am.  wink
TriforceBun

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« Reply #139 on: 09-16-2003 04:04 »

^^^ Hey, we have the same icon!

I have to say, it's distressing to see my all-time favorite Futurama (and one of my all-time favorite episodes of any show) lose an Emmy to Three Gays.  Now granted, I did like TGotC, it was a good Simpsons episode, above-average for S14 (I personally thought Moe Baby Blues and I'm Spelling as Fast as I Can were the best of the season, but oh well). 

Still, I really, really wanted Jurassic Bark to win.  The episode's just terrific all-around.  Besides, this is likely the last time Futurama will get to be nominated...and the Simpsons have at least a few more seasons and chances.  Let's have a final hurray for Futurama instead of letting this dog die sad and lonely.  frown
Xmpel

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« Reply #140 on: 09-16-2003 04:25 »

As mentioned before The Simpsons already had an episode devoted to this subject and it was great. Homers Phobia I think, great lines great plot everything dead on.

And now a modest season 14 episode comes along and wins the Emmy?

I think the judges voted on this episode not cause it was a good animated Simpsons episode but because it thouched the subject of gay-rights.

Also before anyone labels me as some sort of Nazi or gayhater I'd like to say that i walked in the Gaypride festival.
Killbot Bot Jnr
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« Reply #141 on: 09-16-2003 04:29 »

For those in Australia, don't forget Jurassic Bark is on tonite.
Lt. Kroker

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« Reply #142 on: 09-16-2003 16:13 »

@DotheBartman: OK, maybe Three Gays wasn't a HP knock-off, but it was awful. The makers of the Simpsons seem to be trying to go back to less stupid episodes, and, while I appreciate the thought, it's not working. I actually prefer stupid/weird new episodes like 'Tales From the Public Domain'.

This against an absolute classic cartoon event.
Gleno

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« Reply #143 on: 09-16-2003 22:30 »

If this ep had won the emmy, maybe the show would have been given a bit more recognition....I haven't seen the other 2 shows but the Simpsons ep (3 Gays....) how was this even nominated....?

Before Futurama I was a huge Simpsons fan and if I missed a new ep I was furious err yellow  tongue these days, I'm not a huge fan but I still tune in to see the new ones even if they turn out to be meh (which they usually are)
Anyway new Simpsons eps don't even deserve nomination in my opinion, and Jurassic Bark was so great it should have won hands down....
I hear Roswell won last year though....? Least they got something right....  smile

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DotheBartman

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« Reply #144 on: 09-17-2003 00:16 »

Again, I would have loved to see Jurassic Bark win instead.  When I first saw the news that "Three Gays" had won instead, I think my exact words were "oh shit".

But please, someone explain to me why Three Gays is so bad.  It wasn't perfect, but even a lot of so called "classics" (Homer Goes to College, anyone?) aren't either.  Someone please explain to me why it wasn't well done.  I just don't understand how people can bash it so ceaselessly, and "Three Hundred Big Boys" actually gets decent ratings.
TriforceBun

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« Reply #145 on: 09-17-2003 00:22 »

I personally am not a basher of Three Gays (I'd give it a 4/5), but I thought it did have a few flaws.

Weird Al's song was way too short, for starters, and it wasn't that funny either (surprising, since he's a funny guy).  It also felt a little tacked on, though I did like the ending song.  Secondly, while Homer jumping out of the window was a funny moment and helped round out the scene, it was kind of weird how sudden the two gay characters in the episode were just dropped and forgotten like that.  And finally, the episode just didn't have THAT many laughs overall.

It's been awhile since I've seen it though, and I've only seen it once.  Nevertheless, I enjoyed it (above average for this decent season), but I still wish Jurassic Bark took home the award.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #146 on: 09-17-2003 12:30 »

Not arguing with any of that (I even said the episode was flawed).  Just trying to get a response from those who HATED it, because I think their opinions are unwarranted.  Even Homer's Phobia wasn't flawless, people.
Lt. Kroker

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« Reply #147 on: 09-17-2003 12:56 »
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Alrighty then. When I think about it, I didn't actually hate this ep all that much, I liked the jigsaw puzzle and the flashbacks, but some of it was IMO noticably terrible. In particular, many jokes during 'Homer moves in with gays' part fell embarassingly flat, as did Weird Al's entire song. It left a bad taste in my mouth.
spacepilot3000

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« Reply #148 on: 09-18-2003 00:27 »

This is an outrage! I'm going to write ahate mail to FOX about this. Whose with me?

(Silence.....crickets are heard.)

OK then.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #149 on: 09-18-2003 00:37 »

The loss actually isn't Fox's fault, as hard as that is to believe.  wink The emmy voters voted, not Fox themselves.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #150 on: 09-18-2003 00:39 »

You forget that everything is Fox's fault.
Gleno

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« Reply #151 on: 09-18-2003 04:58 »

Homer's dance in the club in that ep was kinda funny in a wierd sorta way I guess.... hmpf
zoidyzoid

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« Reply #152 on: 09-18-2003 05:01 »

I haven't seen that Simpsons episode, but I find it hard to believe that any Simpsons episode (especially one of the recent ones that everybody hates so much) could come close to Jurassic Bark.
less than hero

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« Reply #153 on: 09-18-2003 13:46 »

Futurama?  Emmy?  GREAT NEWS!!!!  Perhaps such a thing will rekindle network interest in the show.  It's bound to win.  Kim Possible is ok- my bro watches it
less than hero

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« Reply #154 on: 09-18-2003 13:48 »

Also, I do't think the Simpsons will get many nominations...due to the fact that people say the newer episodes are becoming crappy.
davids

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« Reply #155 on: 09-18-2003 14:38 »

 
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Futurama? Emmy? GREAT NEWS!!!! Perhaps such a thing will rekindle network interest in the show. It's bound to win.

Err...well...it lost......to the simpsons.
SimPurist

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« Reply #156 on: 09-18-2003 15:43 »

I'm just glad that the episode The Simpsons guys picked was Three Gays of the Condo and not something like Helter Shelter or Pray Anything.  At least with an episode like Three Gays, their win was valid. 


Teral

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« Reply #157 on: 09-18-2003 15:50 »

I haven't seen any of the other nominees, but if "Three Gays of The Condo" beat "Jurassic Bark" it have to be one hell of an episode.

But I'm still going to blame FOX. What with their letter of no-confidence and all.
davids

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« Reply #158 on: 09-18-2003 16:41 »

What is this letter?
Teral

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« Reply #159 on: 09-18-2003 17:20 »

The cancellation of the show.
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