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MrB

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« on: 07-12-2003 10:06 »
« Last Edit on: 07-12-2003 10:06 »

Think about all the times Fry has saved NNY, and not to mention the world.  Why isn't he as well-known as Calculon?  Yeah, I know the Brains don't count because nobody remembers that, but here's a list of the time Fry has (publicly) had reason to be famous.

A Big Piece of Garbage:  Fry is the only one who remembers how to make trash.  Even the Mayor admitted it was Fry that saved them all.

When Aliens Attack:  It was Fry and the PE crew that put on the Jenny McNeal show that saved the enrite planet!  No one else helped at all.

I Second That Emotion:  Wasn't it Fry, Leela and Bender that discovered there really ARE sewer mutants?  I thought at the beginning of this episode Amy said it was just a rumour.

The Honking:  Fry, Leela and Bender stopped a villain that had been around for hundreds of years, the infamous Project Satan.

War is the H-Word:  After this episode, you'd think that Fry, Leela and Bender would be military heroes, since it was them alone who stopped the Brain Balls.

The Luck of the Fryrish:  Fry's famous nephew was the first person to land on Mars.

Time Keeps on Slippin' Away:  It was Fry, Leela and Bender that saved the entire world from the time skips.

I Dated a Robot:  Wasn't it the PE crew to shut down Kidnappster?

Tale of Two Santas:  It was the PE crew that finally froze Santa in ice.  However, this one may not count since everyone on earth still thought he was loose, even though it was Bender.

Three Hundred Big Boys:  Now, we all know that Fry saved everyone using his super coffee quickness, but there was a little confusion over whether everyone else knew or not.

Note that I didn't count, Less Than Hero, due to the fact that no one knew it was Fry.  So, with all of these accomplishments in Fry's past.  Why isn't he one of the most famous people on earth?  Why doesn't he run for Earth President sometime?  Of course, if we wanted to make a list of the stupid things Fry has done, it would be a lot longer, but you get what I'm saying.  What do you think?

Australian Guy

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« Reply #1 on: 07-12-2003 10:41 »

The show can hardly be about living a casual life if fry is famous. Also they try to emphasise that everyone are idiots. Why should they care,
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plus the ppl would only know of one time when fry saved them.
Teral

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« Reply #2 on: 07-12-2003 11:00 »

The easiest answer is: fame is a fickle thing, and as soon as Fry's 15 minutes are up, the public lose interest. In order to remain in the public memory you have to make regular achievements of a certain magnitude in fields that interest the average schmoe, like playing basketball in the NBA or being in a reality show.

A Big Piece of Garbage: Yes, this certainly count as a feat worthy of fame.

When Aliens Attack: Nobody really know the PE did what they did. All the public know is, the Omicronians suddenly went away. If the PE crew afterwards showed up and said: "it was us, we're the heroes", noone would believe them.

I second That Emotion: I just don't think anybody cares about the mutants. Afterall they're forbidden to stay above ground. Discovering them would be like finding out there's a colony of chipmunks below New York.

The Honking: Project Satan is an unknown danger. If the government knew about it and it's killing streak they would probably have hunted it down a long time ago. Since Project Satan was destroyed they don't have any evidence. The only one who could support their story, Calculon, wont talk because it could jeopardize his career.

War Is The H-Word: Brannigan and Nixon made sure they received all the glory. They came up with the idea of using a bomb. Fry, Leela and Bender are only lowly privates, where as they're the commanders of this great victory.

The luck Of The Fryrish: Even his coworkers didn't know Fry was related to the first man on Mars. This might be another case where a little fame is in order, if anybody knew about it. Fry should contact the New New York Times.

Time Keeps On Slipping: Then again they were the ones who created the timeskips in the first place. Although being infamous could be just as good as being famous.  wink I think Fry causing them to lose the basketball game will be more memorable. Losing 150 poitns in less than 2 minutes, now that's a feat.  big grin

I Dated A Robot: Who many average people cheered in the streets when Napster were shut down? This is almost the same thing.

Three Hundred Big Boys: All they saw was a orange blur.

All in all Fry have done some memorable thing, and he should probably be known/infamous in NNY. But he doesn't have many admirable traits (unless you take the time to get to know him) and without those the media wont spend much time on him. Without media support, no fame. Sad, but true.
M Jackson
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« Reply #3 on: 07-12-2003 14:47 »

I think that pretty much sums up everything.

Man, everyone elses post on this thread is huge, do you think they're compensating for something?
MrB

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« Reply #4 on: 07-12-2003 16:28 »

In Three Hundred Big Boys, you'd just think that saving the life of everyone (including Earth President Richard Nixon and Military Hero Zapp Brannigan) would earn you much respect.  But, yeah, I guess they only saw an orange blur...
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« Reply #5 on: 07-12-2003 17:21 »

you would have thought he would be known for his nephew he would be a well known name like that man who landed on the moon. you know the one the one with the hair.......arm something
Xmpel

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« Reply #6 on: 07-12-2003 18:25 »

And Aliens invade three times a week in the future so no one really remembers everybody who has saved the Earth.
Beamer

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« Reply #7 on: 07-12-2003 23:07 »

Also, I think people were well aware of the sewer mutants - after all, when one comes up on the street in Leela's Homeworld, Smitty yells out "Hey - no mutants on the surface!" or something similar to that. Still, the majority of other things you've listed DO class as heroism - but think, the show just wouldn't be the same if Fry, or any of the other main characters were famous.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #8 on: 07-13-2003 03:59 »
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Lurrr

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« Reply #9 on: 07-13-2003 11:57 »

Saying that, I think its worth pointing out that Fry's not the only one who's should be famous. For example:

Leela- Infamously the worst Blernsball player ever, romantically linked with Zapp Branigan (whether she likes it or not) and the one whom the Omicronians planned to eat in TPWP (broadcast on live TV no less).

Bender- An ex-robot fighter, dumped dark matter over Pluto, defeated Elzar in the Iron Cook contest, led a cruel dictatorship over the people of Osiris 4, played washboard with Beck and became an idol for broken robots, and not to mention the many times he's been in the news for criminal activities.
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« Reply #10 on: 07-13-2003 12:04 »

ok. somebodys dumped oil in the sea before havent they? do u know him? also bender is a bending robot. they all look the same.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #11 on: 07-13-2003 12:50 »

Whats that about leela being a famous blurnsball player?  mad
Teral

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« Reply #12 on: 07-13-2003 15:48 »

Watch "A Leela Of Her Own", and it's hardly something that needs spoiler anymore. The show premiered more than a year ago.
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« Reply #13 on: 07-14-2003 00:38 »
« Last Edit on: 07-14-2003 00:38 »

Don't forget how far behind some countries are (like Australia). The famous blurnsball player thing isn't a big deal though, as it isn't a surprise twist or anything.

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Oni Zyxer

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« Reply #14 on: 07-14-2003 01:45 »

Nobody cares about Australia. Now go slap yourself.

About the fame thing, this happens in all cartoons. Isn't it astonishing how many celebrities the Simpsons have bumped into?
Rage Dump

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« Reply #15 on: 07-14-2003 05:52 »

Fry's lack of fame might also have something to do with the fact that it is 1000 years in the future, maybe (yet unlikely) they are too used to seeing weird/crazy stuff to really care about fry all that much... maybe the world in the year 3000 requires a savior everyday, we dont know
(Yes i am aware that this is very far fetched, but its the only solid thing i can think of, so :P )

And one more thing, AUZ ROCKS!!!! (no pun intended  big grin )
Lurrr

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« Reply #16 on: 07-14-2003 09:38 »

OK, sorry to the Aussies but...

1969

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« Reply #17 on: 07-14-2003 14:33 »

 
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Nobody cares about Australia. Now go slap yourself.
Small minded idiot.

Meh, it's a cartoon. How can they maintain the status quo if Fry & co. gets famous? It's not like they can have them do boring, day to day tasks every week anyways, how boooring would that be...
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« Reply #18 on: 07-14-2003 14:39 »

 
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Originally posted by Rage Dump:
Fry's lack of fame might also have something to do with the fact that it is 1000 years in the future, maybe (yet unlikely) they are too used to seeing weird/crazy stuff to really care about fry all that much... maybe the world in the year 3000 requires a savior everyday, we dont know
(Yes i am aware that this is very far fetched, but its the only solid thing i can think of, so :P )

And one more thing, AUZ ROCKS!!!! (no pun intended   big grin )

It's not so far-fetched, look at what's happening around you today.  Attention spans are shrinking as people become more dependent on constantly arriving information.  If these trends continue, people in the future are likely to be very jaded indeed.  I mean, they got dogs with jet packs, for Jah's sake.  If they can afford to be blase about that, who cares about some dude who saves the world a couple times. 

And Leela played for the Mets, that's why no one cares about her.

MrB

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« Reply #19 on: 07-14-2003 22:52 »

Well, sorry to spoil.  but when you see  a list of references to various episodes and you continue to read the post, what do you expect?

Canned Eggs and Rage Dump.  I agree.  To remain famous a person would have to be in the public eye all the time. (Calculon has a weekly TV show_
TheLesbianLeela

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« Reply #20 on: 07-15-2003 14:02 »

Topic: Why isn't Fry famous in New New York?

Andy Warhol: In the future everyone will be famous for fifteen minutes.

And after that 15 minutes no-one cares for you anymore.
The 31st century society is often TV- and attention-addicted. 16,000 TV-channels and so far.
Zapp Brannigan and Calculon are stars because they are for sure every day/week for 15 minutes on TV.
Fry isn't.

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MrB

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« Reply #21 on: 07-15-2003 15:17 »

Oh, let's not forget that Fry also found the original moon landing site that had been lost for many years.
Chump

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« Reply #22 on: 07-15-2003 15:34 »

And was the leader of an entire planet (My Three Suns).
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« Reply #23 on: 07-15-2003 15:37 »

 
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Oh, let's not forget that Fry also found the original moon landing site that had been lost for many years.

And then the whole Planet Express crew stole it!
Chump

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« Reply #24 on: 07-15-2003 15:38 »

Nice. Wonder what they did with that eh?

Fry also found bigfoot in the latest episode. Thats kind of memorable.
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« Reply #25 on: 07-15-2003 22:24 »

his not famous because nobody knows his from the past you stuipd shits up yours
bendingunit5292

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« Reply #26 on: 07-15-2003 22:25 »

 
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his not famous because nobody knows his from the past you stuipd shits  up yours

Beamer

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« Reply #27 on: 07-16-2003 00:55 »

Calm down, Bendingunit5292. Here, have some ritalin - try and guess which pill has been injected with turpentine!
reverend

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« Reply #28 on: 07-16-2003 09:10 »

Jesus Bendingunit! Why did you quote yourself?Anyway who's to say they aren't famous? Even famous people don't get recognised most of the time unless they're really really really famous.
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« Reply #29 on: 07-16-2003 09:44 »
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his not famous because nobody knows his from the past you stuipd shits   up yours


What the hell are you on about? Why would he be famous for being from the past??? How many people are from the past? loads!!!! all the famous heads are...that girl fry met at a night club. When Fry worked at the cryogenics place there were people from the past all over the place. So dont get all twatty about it when you dont even know what your talking about............
MrB

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« Reply #30 on: 07-16-2003 17:33 »

Ever read something so off-the-wall stupid that you literally can't respond with anything but a coughing/gagging noise, thus you look like the stupid one?  Yeah, bendingunit5292 had me coughing and gagging it was so incredibly stupid.  Good thing I can still type, otherwise I might have looked stupid.   wink
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« Reply #31 on: 07-16-2003 18:18 »

yeah life is unfair
canned eggs

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« Reply #32 on: 07-16-2003 19:24 »

The guy's got 5 posts and none of them make any sense.  I smell a hypnotoad.  (No offense, NuHypnotoad)
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« Reply #33 on: 07-16-2003 22:01 »

BendingUnit was out of order for calling the contributors to this thread "stuipd" (sic!), since no one had suggested that his fame should be due him being over a thousand years old, but due instead to his work saving the world.

I would put his non-fame down to the populace's apathy. After all more and more people don't take an interest in the news these days, and the most popular newspapers are filled with show-biz news and sex-scandal rather than actual current affairs. Now presumably the people of 3000 are no better, in fact I'd expect them to be worse what with New New York being a dystopia n'all.
Chump

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« Reply #34 on: 07-16-2003 22:42 »

Wheeeeeee the newbish fights, where the slightly less new gang up on the newer!

I agree, Fry certainly isn't special for being from the past, lots of people freeze themselves, people that are already fameous even (Pauly Shore anyone?).
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« Reply #35 on: 07-17-2003 11:47 »

@#1 you forgot one important thing:

 
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MrB

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« Reply #36 on: 07-17-2003 16:06 »

So true, so true...
Just Chris

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« Reply #37 on: 07-19-2003 10:20 »

Fry's like the amazing Spider-man, man.

"Fame and fortune, he's ignored
action is his reward"

He's also friendly and hangs around the neighborhood.
Denton

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« Reply #38 on: 07-19-2003 11:56 »

as said above fry has done many bad and good things so how can he be a hero because he would also be a Villian, but i suppose it is possible but we be facing something simlar like in the game Quest For Glory 1-5, where you can be a hero and a thief

Also ITS A CARTOON, if fry was meant to be a hero they would have made him that way.

one last thing AUSTRALIA RULZ  cool  cool

-Oooh… A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-my-own-grandpa! Let's get the hell out of here already. Screw history!-
MrB

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« Reply #39 on: 07-19-2003 15:08 »
« Last Edit on: 07-19-2003 15:08 »

Well, i would never say that Fry is a villain.  He hasn't INTENTIONALLY done anything bad.  Sure he drank an emporer and ate some popplers....but i wouldn't say that makes him a villain.
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