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reverend

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« on: 07-04-2003 10:24 »

My questions are these. Since Groening has indicated that he is working on new show concepts do you 1. Think that there is a strong likelihood that a new show would be good? 2. Prefer the idea of a good new show to more episodes of futurama? 3. Think that David X Cohen might be involved?

Just say what you think. Don't feel restricted by my questions (as if you would).  eek

The Reverend
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« Reply #1 on: 07-04-2003 10:55 »

With this type of thing, you have to reserve your judgment until you know more details.  From what I remember from the initial publicity for Futurama, it was based mostly on comparisons with the Simpsons ( 'Bender is a Homer Simpson-style robot' 'Ooh look, they have overbites but they're pink!').

We'll see what MG comes up with.  I have few doubts he'll want a concept far, far away from Futurama, though.

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Teral

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« Reply #2 on: 07-04-2003 12:29 »

1: Probably
2: NO!
3: Most likely.
Sil

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« Reply #3 on: 07-04-2003 12:32 »
« Last Edit on: 07-04-2003 12:32 »

1. I think the new show would be good, but I'm biased as hell because I'm a die-hard Groening fan.
2. You can't really answer that second question without knowing something about what the new show is going to be.  I think that it will be good if they did the same as what they did with Futurama, which is use the same writers and animators and so on - J. Stewart Burns, David Cohen, Travis Powers and Rich Moore to name but a few, all worked on the Simpsons before Futurama.  But what FOX did to Futurama was evil, and I would still like new episodes!
3. Can're really answer this one either, except to say that it would be awesome if David Cohen was involved, because he's a really talented funny guy.  Futurama wouldn't have been the same without his input.
boingo2000

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« Reply #4 on: 07-04-2003 12:34 »

1) Maybe
2) Maybe
3) Maybe
I'd like to reserve jusgement until I know details.  In the meantime, I'll remain neutral.  (Thus risking life and limb.  Every day I pray I don't run into Zapp Brannigan.)
Anarchist

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« Reply #5 on: 07-04-2003 12:40 »

1) It's from Matt Groening. Of course it will be good.
2) HELL NO! A new show would be nice, but Futurama died way too young! There were still so many possibilities... so much left undone...
3) He damn better be.
Kazzahdrane

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« Reply #6 on: 07-04-2003 13:19 »

1) Very good, as long as MG has control, which I don't think he'll make a new series without.
2) I doubt it, as really I'd just love to see Futurama continue. Futurama AND a new show?....that I'd like to see!
3) I REALLY hope so, DXC is so damn cool that I'd love to see a show with his mark on it. Also he and MG seem to get on really well, I'd put money on him at least helping out in an unofficial way.
Coop

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« Reply #7 on: 07-04-2003 13:31 »

Well, you said in another forum that you think Futurama would have gotten stail. I disagree. Futurama wasnt like the simpsons who only had so many possibilities. Futurama was in a futuristic world with monsters and almost anything could happen. There were endless possibilities.

Now, on to your questions.
1. possibly. Although I just dont know what they could do now.
2. Hell no, never.
3. Hopefully. We can only pray.
mads

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« Reply #8 on: 07-04-2003 13:42 »

I hope Groening will wait at least 3-5 years before his new show premiers. But i really would hope that DXC is an executive producer on the show.
M Jackson
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« Reply #9 on: 07-04-2003 13:52 »

As I said on a thread in the TV section, Matt Greoning has said he's working on a rock and roll show. It has the potential to be really good, although it could suffer from being too similar to The Simpsons as they have done many, many episodes with a rock and roll, or music festival theme. Anyway it's far too early to judge, and he may have dumped that idea by now. Who knows? (Matt Greoning, I guess).

I'd love to see a new Greoning show, and new episodes of Futurama being produced. That is the ideal situation. Although if i could only choose one, I'd go for new Futurama.
 
alexvilagosh

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« Reply #10 on: 07-04-2003 21:04 »

1. Maybe
2. No
3. I don't think so

And yeah I hope he waits a while before the new show.
Xmpel

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« Reply #11 on: 07-04-2003 21:18 »

1. Wouldn't top Futurama
2. Hell no. What kinda shitty question is that? Did you really expect a yes?
3. He better be.
Venus

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« Reply #12 on: 07-04-2003 21:23 »

i don't want a new show i want the old show!   mad   cry
PCC Fred

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« Reply #13 on: 07-04-2003 21:24 »

1. I dunno.  It's rare for one person to devise two good TV shows.  It's virtually unheard of for anyone to devise three shows.  But if anyone can do it, MG can.

2. Loaded question.  Ask me again after "THe Devil's Hands..." airs.

3. I don't know.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #14 on: 07-04-2003 21:26 »

1. Probably, but I bet Futurama would top it.
2.Hell no! No show could posess what Futurama has-give me ONE, just ONE other show that can make you cry and laugh at the same time!
3.I hope so, but I still hate seeing them working on a new show when Futurama was so young.
Beamer

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« Reply #15 on: 07-04-2003 22:18 »

1. I can't really say anything until I see it.
2. Same as above - but it'll have to be pretty damn good to top Futurama.
3. Probably not, unless he was going for another sci-fi related show. Cohen would probably get envolved in the production staff one way or another, but I doubt he'll have as big a roll as he did with Futurama.
Hulkbuster

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« Reply #16 on: 07-04-2003 22:39 »
« Last Edit on: 07-04-2003 22:39 »

He did the simpsons, he did futurama. At worst it will be good, at best it will be another futurama. But it will never be as ground breaking, displaying the unalloyed cult genius of Futurama or get the massive following of the Simpsons. A new show must be a pretty daunting concept. 
kwigibo

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« Reply #17 on: 07-05-2003 02:35 »

Does Groening have any contractual obligations to Fox, because any new show should probably go to a different network. I guess all the major networks, including Fox, have screwed up trying to push animated shows to match the success the simpsons. Even though Futurama failed through no fault of its own, after seeing what happened to it, who'll be willing and able to buy a new Groeniung show. I think a Groening movie has a much better chance seeing the light of day.
Coop

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« Reply #18 on: 07-05-2003 02:38 »

 
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Originally posted by kwigibo:
Does Groening have any contractual obligations to Fox, because any new show should probably go to a different network. I guess all the major networks, including Fox, have screwed up trying to push animated shows to match the success the simpsons. Even though Futurama failed through no fault of its own, after seeing what happened to it, who'll be willing and able to buy a new Groeniung show. I think a Groening movie has a much better chance seeing the light of day.

Come on now, who would really pay to see a movie with Matt Groening in it?
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ShineFusion

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« Reply #19 on: 07-05-2003 03:20 »

1. yes it's possible.
2. sort of because Futurama may end up like the later seasons of the simpsons which is'nt a good thing.
3. Maybe.
zyphr

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« Reply #20 on: 07-05-2003 06:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
i don't want a new show i want the old show!    mad    cry
Yeah me to, I'm affraid of change...

But I still can't wait untill the new show comes...

Xmpel

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« Reply #21 on: 07-06-2003 00:19 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2003 00:19 »

 
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Originally posted by ShineFusion:
2. sort of because Futurama may end up like the later seasons of the simpsons which is'nt a good thing.
It's a big difference between The Simpsons and Futurama. Futurama is a science-fiction show that takes place in space, There are endless possibilitys for a show like this.

I would think that 7 production seasons would be a good number. Not more.
Coop

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« Reply #22 on: 07-06-2003 00:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Xmpel:

It's a big difference between The Simpsons and Futurama. Futurama is a science-fiction show that takes place in space, There are endless possibilitys for a show like this.

My words exactly, ive always said that there are endless possibilities for Futurama. The problem with the Simpsons is that they have explored all of the possibilities(even aliens) and now theres nothing left to do.


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Yorokobi

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« Reply #23 on: 07-06-2003 00:53 »

I know I won't make the same mistake twice.  Back when Futurama came around, I CLEARLY remember seeing an add and thinking.  Yeah, great, Simpsons in space.  As [I know now] bender would say "Thank you and Good Night".

Little did I know what I was missing.  I'm sure this will upset some folks but I hate the Simpsons. 

No Hate is too strong, I am firmly apathetic about the Simpsons.  I have had friends who were hardcore fans of the show, and via them saw a few eps that were..... cute..... but all in all it was a big snore for me.

And from that biased assuption look at what I'd been missing.

Thank god for Cartoon Network.

DotheBartman

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« Reply #24 on: 07-06-2003 00:56 »

Regarding Coop's second to last post, Groening ironically once worked as a movie extra.

Anyways...

1.  I assume it would be.
2.  In the current situation I'd say I'd prefer Futurama, but we don't really know until we've seen the next show (assuming it happens) whether it'll be better. 
3.  When piloting The Simpsons, Brooks and Simon were chosen for specific reasons as partners.  Brooks for his clout in the industry and experience making television shows, and Simon because he was a master at developing characters and making whatever he touched emotionally meaningful and down the earth.  Cohen was chosen for Futurama because he was a big sci-fi geek, and in the case of that show Groening needed someone like that to create it.  I would guess that the next show will have someone else as a partner, but I wouldn't be suprised if Cohen came back in some way (consultant, writer, etc), since Groening was apparently interested in working with the Futurama team again.  But, I think he'll pick another partner as the main showrunner, based on whatever the subject matter of the next show will be.
Zoidberg MD

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« Reply #25 on: 07-06-2003 12:47 »

I think that anything Groening turns out will be good quality, and if he does decide to ask Cohen back on board for a new project, it will be on the same level as Futurnama.  Niether of those two would allow a show with their names on it to unoriginal or shallow. 
Zaer

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« Reply #26 on: 07-06-2003 16:12 »

It would be fun to have a new fresh show, although i love futurama.

Without change, something sleeps inside us

(Do you now what movie i am quoting?)
Evil Fox Exec

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« Reply #27 on: 07-06-2003 16:40 »

I also think a new show would be great, but again, I would rather have more Futurama.  But if Groening came out with a new show which would kick ass, I would be afraid that Fox would end up treating it badly, too.
Guy

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« Reply #28 on: 07-07-2003 05:14 »

1: Yes. Hell, lots of people thought the Simpsons was a one hit wonder, but lots of us actually prefer Futurama. Matt's had a 2/2 success rating so there's no reason to suggest that he can't do it again.
2: I have to say no. I f anew show gets in the way of Futurama, I don't want to have it. But I get the felling that nothing can save Futurama now.
3: Who knows...? I would hope so.

Semper Fudge!
reverend

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« Reply #29 on: 07-07-2003 06:11 »

You know, I too think Futurama could have continued for a while without becoming stale. I agree that 7 seasons would have been good and nice, but I disagree that the sci-fi setting meant infinite possibilities. Although the Simpsons had fewer possibilities, this doesn't mean they were infinite ofr Futurama. It's the characters who get stale, not the plots. Also, Zaer, you're quoting Dune by David Lynch. Leto Atreides to Paul Atreides, and then later Paul to other people, possibly his mother. Have they ever parodied Dune in Futurama? Not in an episode I've seen.
Coop

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« Reply #30 on: 07-07-2003 09:29 »
« Last Edit on: 07-07-2003 09:29 »

I definately knew futurama was going to be good when I saw the add. I think anything Matt Groening does will be generally good. Which begs the question "Whats up with the current Simpsons season   confused "


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« Reply #31 on: 07-07-2003 13:05 »

1)  Matt Groening has made two great shows IMO, so I see no reason why he can't come up with another good one.  I just hope it's on a network that will give it a chance to succeed.

2)No way.  There's a lot more that could have been done with Futurama.  I'll take more Futurama over a new show.

3) I hope he's involved.  He's seems to have a genuine interest in what he's working on.  He seemed to be really into Futurama and wanted it to succeed.  That's the kind of person I'd want working on a show.
MattyB

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« Reply #32 on: 07-07-2003 13:19 »

I didn't think the Simpsons could be matched but it most definetly has, if not bettered it. But I can't see another new show being able to make us care about the characters and have so many sly jokes and non used external references.
Still, I would to see a new show once Futurama ends. I'm sure it will be good.
less than hero

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« Reply #33 on: 07-07-2003 13:19 »

1.oh yeah...
2.No way...
3.Hope so...

Does anyone have an inkling of what the hell this new show will be about?
Teral

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« Reply #34 on: 07-07-2003 15:13 »

 
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Originally posted by reverend:
 Have they ever parodied Dune in Futurama? Not in an episode I've seen.
In spoiler, just in case.  wink

M Jackson
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« Reply #35 on: 07-07-2003 17:50 »

 
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Originally posted by less than hero:
Does anyone have an inkling of what the hell this new show will be about?


Rock and Roll, apparently. Greoning may have scapped that idea by now, although he sounded really enthusiastic about it, when he first announced it.)
reverend

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« Reply #36 on: 07-08-2003 06:36 »

Thanks Teral. I won't read it at the moment. As of now I have only watched up to Antholgy of Interest II (in terms of production Seasons) Tonight or this week I will complete the third Production season, but I won't see the fourth unitl the DVD. I'm assuming it is from Season Four, so your post is going to be there for a while before I read it.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #37 on: 07-08-2003 07:30 »

The new show should be good, but will not equal Futurama unless it is something that hasn;t been done before.

It sounds like a cartoon version of that Harry Enfield show where he was a rock star.

I'd prefer to go up to Production Season 6 of Futurama than have any more Simpsons OR new show.

DXC will probably be involved at some stage.

FOX are evil, hopefully this show will be with another network.
reverend

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« Reply #38 on: 07-08-2003 09:13 »

I have to add that the idea of a rock'n'roll show sounds unspeakably awful to me. I'd hate to have MG sully his reputation with such a creation.
Killerfox

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« Reply #39 on: 07-08-2003 10:04 »

well i got a good feeling about it, although it wont be better than futurama of course but i think its ok to have a new show
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