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dooRDoC

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« on: 04-19-2001 16:49 »

... to download eps in .mpg format? Without giving the creators some kind of payment?  smile Well, i -really- like the series and Im downloading most of the eps to be able to see them, in Sweden they arent broadcasted right now... Is that wrong, i mean, i like the series so much, ill probably buy the DVD´s (if they´ll ever be available in stores) and maybe even some "actionfigures" TM á la Futurama. I believe Futurama creators make more money now, than if the eps wouldnt be available for download. What do you people think?

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Nixon+Morbo~???

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« Reply #1 on: 04-19-2001 18:51 »

Why would it be any more unethical than taping it on VHS?

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hangman3k

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« Reply #2 on: 04-19-2001 22:56 »

Listen to the smart head-in-a-jar.   cool

Plasma

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« Reply #3 on: 04-20-2001 05:52 »

Hell yes, it's theft, just like NAPSTER THE EVIL SPAWN OF SATAN!

Recording it at least requires the enduring of ads, paying for the show.  Not to mention that I think it is technically illegal to do that either, though most producers don't really mind.

However, that's never really stopped me, as it is the ONLY way I can watch it, not that I'm too cheap/lazy to watch or buy it.

 
Nixon+Morbo~???

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« Reply #4 on: 06-01-2001 00:34 »

 
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Originally posted by Plasma:
Recording it at least requires the enduring of ads

Funny, I could always pause recording duriing commercials, so I didn't tape them

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MrLarry

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« Reply #5 on: 06-01-2001 08:53 »

I disagree. Taping a show is perfectly legal, if the intent is for private viewing. Making .MPG's or any other video format usually involves distribution over the Internet, which IS, technically, illegal! But isn't the ultimate answer to any question, no matter how complex it may be, "Who cares?"

Sure it's unethical. But when's the last time you heard about the FBI busting down someone's door for just downloading copyrighted material?
futurefreak

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« Reply #6 on: 06-01-2001 20:41 »

lol good point mr larry

i tape all the shows...i dont have a conscience so it doesnt bother me  big grin

iliketowankalot

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« Reply #7 on: 06-01-2001 20:58 »

I thought the whole point of VCR's was to record shows.
Downloading episodes off the internet isn't unethical, whats unethical is FOX cutting half the season.
Nixon+Morbo~???

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« Reply #8 on: 06-02-2001 01:10 »

 
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Originally posted by iliketowankalot:
whats unethical is FOX cutting half the season.

Tell it preacherbot!  That=true!

Amen

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« Reply #9 on: 06-02-2001 02:39 »

 
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Originally posted by MrLarry:
which IS, technically, illegal!

illegal and unethical are two completely different things tho

futurefreak

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« Reply #10 on: 06-02-2001 16:17 »

 
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Originally posted by iliketowankalot:
I thought the whole point of VCR's was to record shows.
Downloading episodes off the internet isn't unethical, whats unethical is FOX cutting half the season.

haha brother wanker says it all!  tongue

Radijs

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« Reply #11 on: 06-03-2001 10:00 »

I have no choice
I am forced to download the eps. they dont show it in holland  frown(((
Thats right here FOX is even worse they dont cut it in half th3y erase all together!!

Change places!!
Crizp

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« Reply #12 on: 06-05-2001 00:33 »

 
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Originally posted by dooRDoC:
... to download eps in .mpg format? Without giving the creators some kind of payment?   smile Well, i -really- like the series and Im downloading most of the eps to be able to see them, in Sweden they arent broadcasted right now... Is that wrong, i mean, i like the series so much, ill probably buy the DVD´s (if they´ll ever be available in stores)
Well I've got it the same way, it's not broadcasted in Norway (as all other good American shows - but in a side note, aren't TV4 sending Futurama now?)

I don't feel like I'm ripping off Fox... I've got all seasons complete in MPEG now, and will keep them - at least until Season Box DVD's are released (if that will happen). Then I'll buy them. And rip them to DivX (kidding).

I'm also watching a lot of other shows in MPEG that are not broadcasted in Norway (Angel, Farscape, Dark Angel).
VelourFog

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« Reply #13 on: 06-11-2001 20:32 »

Bumping this for Kifly Jr......


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Kifley Jr

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« Reply #14 on: 06-11-2001 21:55 »

 
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Originally posted by VelourFog:
Bumping this for Kifly Jr......


Hey hey I was mentioned in the post i original posted before "DooRDoc" Stole it  smile
Lovely, The respect we recieve on this forum..
Kifley Jr

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« Reply #15 on: 06-11-2001 21:59 »

My mistake sorry read the post dates wrong..
A thouhsand apologies  smile
futurefreak

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« Reply #16 on: 06-12-2001 00:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Kifley Jr:
My mistake sorry read the post dates wrong..
A thouhsand apologies   smile

iliketowankalot said that the people with the kif avators acted alike...well this one is nice!  smile

Kifley Jr

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« Reply #17 on: 06-12-2001 12:50 »

iliketowankalot , See you can't judge someones personality by there avator  smile

Bah!
Kifley Jr

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« Reply #18 on: 06-12-2001 13:25 »

Same here I have to download to watch Futurama [Even though they do brodcast here] I've got the entire series.. When/If the dvds do come out im goign to buy them for sure
Redman

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« Reply #19 on: 06-12-2001 22:43 »

I don't know how it's done in Sweden, but In The Netherlands (also european) it's perfectly legal and thus also ethical to download copyright protected media files.  big grin
We pay a little bit extra for blank tapes, cd's, etc with which the copyrightholders are paid. Making a copy for your own personal use is 100% legal and this way there is no need for copyprotection because the artists get piad anyway.
Uploading a file (making a copy which is not for personal use) is technically considered to be illegal, but if they were to police this they wouldn't sell as much blank cd's and thus deprive themselves from income, so they let is happen as long as you don't start selling is on a large scale  cool

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rach_the_tall

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« Reply #20 on: 06-13-2001 03:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Redman:
I don't know how it's done in Sweden, but In The Netherlands (also european) it's perfectly legal and thus also ethical to download copyright protected media files.   big grin
We pay a little bit extra for blank tapes, cd's, etc with which the copyrightholders are paid. Making a copy for your own personal use is 100% legal and this way there is no need for copyprotection because the artists get piad anyway.
what a smart alternative. smile

Markild

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« Reply #21 on: 06-13-2001 06:46 »

Why would something as funny Futurama be unethical in any way? No mather how you copy it! why not just copy what you want, and then do something about it when you get problems! OK?
Kif

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« Reply #22 on: 06-13-2001 09:09 »

 
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Originally posted by Kifley Jr:
iliketowankalot , See you can't judge someones personality by there avator   smile



 
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Originally posted by Kifley Jr
Same here...

What do you mean "Same here?" you're talking to yourself? And people complained about me talking to myself?

I think kifley is signed up as two people and has tried to post as osmeone else. Believe me, I know.
Nixon+Morbo~???

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« Reply #23 on: 06-13-2001 21:09 »

Or he could be replying to two different things using two different posts.  The first one he was telling Wanker that you can't judge a person by his/her avy.  The second one he was replying to the main topic.  Seemed easy enought to figure out to me.  Also, he's not the Wanker or ff. 

I'm American, it's like being Canadian, only without a Molson
SCORPIO!
Get ready for an unexpected trip when you fall screaming from an open window
Work a little bit harder on improving your low self esteem, you stupid freak
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