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Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #40 on: 06-15-2003 21:49 »

There were worse episodes, and his ep was good enough to keep me laughing- Im not picky when it comes to Futurama, not at all.  As long as it's on, I have no complaints whatsoever.  But there are moments where it could be better.
Chump

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« Reply #41 on: 06-15-2003 21:50 »

He stole all the art.

Nixon says that the loot was all gone, but Fry had put out the fire. Therefore, he was stealing it all.

And mom was pretty in character I thought. Everyone was letting their hari down, but she didn't stop the casual swearing.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #42 on: 06-15-2003 21:52 »
« Last Edit on: 06-16-2003 00:00 »

I don't think there was anything fundamentally wrong with the structure of the episode, but when it's divided into so many pieces, everything has to be right on target or it just gets uninteresting.  And not everyone's story worked: I thought Bender's and Zoidberg's were dull, and the Professor becoming young -- again?  I was disappointed that Leela didn't have more to do (she sort of got screwed, since she ended up using what she'd paid for just to help Amy and Kif).

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:It wasn't the best, but it kept me laughing.  I do wish they had a reference to the date, but that's not how Futurama is.
Well, they did show Fry and Leela sitting together and smiling at each other.  And of course he saves her first at the end.

 
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I loved Fry throughout the whole thing, and I was also dissapontied when he didn't show up at the end.
In one shot you can see Fry sitting at the table (he's next to Hermes), but otherwise he doesn't appear.

I didn't see Bumper Robinson's name in the credits; did someone else do Dwight this time?
Venus

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« Reply #43 on: 06-15-2003 22:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:

Well, they did show Fry and Leela sitting together and smiling at each other.  And of course he saves her first at the end.


i'm so glad i wasn't the only one to notice that! If i had been the only peeler to notice shippyness in an ep.....i don't even want to think about what that would have said about me!
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #44 on: 06-15-2003 22:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion
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Well, they did show Fry and Leela sitting together and smiling at each other. And of course he saves her first at the end.

I don't remember when they were smiling too well, and how long was it?  They are good friends, you know. 
grunka_lunka

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« Reply #45 on: 06-15-2003 22:26 »

 
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Well, they did show Fry and Leela sitting together and smiling at each other.  And of course he saves her first at the end.

yeah, i noticed that they were sitting together a couple of times, but it didn't really seem like they were implying anything.

you know what, i saw parts of this ep again, and it kinda sucked more. i was still ecstatic that they were showing it at all, but now i can't find any especially funny or clever bits except for fry's caffeine rush.
Spice Weasel

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« Reply #46 on: 06-15-2003 22:37 »

I liked the multiple plotlines and the way eveyone was doing theor own thing.  It tied together nicely at the end.  Not the best ep, but certainlt not the worst.  After all the great sort of "milestone" eps we've seen recently, it was a refreshing change.  Good, simple and fun.  7/10
Sarge

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« Reply #47 on: 06-15-2003 22:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Arkard:
Leela in the swimsuit stuffed with fish was quite sexy but I wonder why she accepted Zapp's invitation to the reception.

You should've seen the drawings with the dead fish sticking out of her crotch.
Anarchist

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« Reply #48 on: 06-15-2003 22:46 »

Dead fish sticking out of a woman's crotch? Now THERE's a dirty joke.
Sarge

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« Reply #49 on: 06-15-2003 22:48 »

It wasn't a joke. It was a statement.
Margarita

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« Reply #50 on: 06-15-2003 22:48 »
« Last Edit on: 06-17-2003 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
 i'm so glad i wasn't the only one to notice that! If i had been the only peeler to notice shippyness in an ep.....i don't even want to think about what that would have said about me!

i noticed that too.

spacepilot3000

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« Reply #51 on: 06-15-2003 22:50 »
« Last Edit on: 06-16-2003 00:00 »

This episode made me laugh throughout. Fry, although reduced to a minor character, was the best part of the episode. His halarious coffee drinking was cleverly done and really paid off. I wish, one day Fry will save the day and everyone will know about it. I sort of feel bad for Fry. He saves the day(Or the world),and no one belives him. Oh well. The Kif and Amy subplot was funny, but felt like it belonged in another episode. Though the tatoo bit was funny. Bender was second to Fry's story. The giant cigar was halarious. Leela's, well.......It was not very funny even though I Liked the mean whale biologist. Zoidberg, aside from his "Whoop,Whoop" Scenes, it wasn't that funny. But Fry and Bender's story's are the only reason why I'm giving this episode a big,fat: B+
FemJesse

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« Reply #52 on: 06-15-2003 23:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Chump:
I liked it. Better than the Sting by a good margin. The several different intertwing plots were good, and it was fresh and crazy till the end. It was pretty out there, even for Futurama, but craziness is good in moderation.

I'd say its about as good as Farnsworth Parabox.

I'm in complete agreement.  I think this is a low A or a high B.  Of course, I was just glad to see Fry do what he did...  It was brilliant. 

Take it from someone who drank 48 cups of coffee in one day...

It really does feel like that.

BumbleBeeTheta

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« Reply #53 on: 06-16-2003 00:06 »

I really liked this episode actually.  It was quite funny and while the plots really weren't connected, it was very amusing.  :)  The highlight was definitely Fry's mad coffee-drinking.  It's too bad no one knew it was Fry who saved the day, but at least Leela kinda sorta remembers "an orange blur" and that's better than nothing, right?  :D
Anyway, I enjoyed this episode, so I'll give it...um...8/10.  That's still a B.  :)
bankrupt

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« Reply #54 on: 06-16-2003 00:22 »

On first viewing, it was an OK episode.  I thought it had some very funny parts mixed with some strained humor.  For some reason the whale barfing had me really laughing.  Fry growing more and more cracked out on coffee was my favorite part of this episode.  I thought the end where Fry put out the fire was one hell of a great animation sequence.  It's that kind of animation (along with the good stories, of course) that I'm really going to miss.  The artists seem to kick it up a notch each season.  I'd have loved to see how far they could've taken it in later seasons.  Damn fox.
AClosetFan

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« Reply #55 on: 06-16-2003 00:56 »

the coffee binge was sweet... something i would do for sure. But the rest of the episode was subpar to the sting and the farnsworth parabox. I give it a B+/A-
Tzlk
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« Reply #56 on: 06-16-2003 01:14 »

I thought it was funny, I loved fry being on the coffee drinking thing, my favorite part is when bender asks Fry if he is going to brannagain's shindig, and Fry just shakes uncontrolably, I laughed a lot in the episdoe.  It was a good one!
FishyJoe

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« Reply #57 on: 06-16-2003 01:20 »

So disappointing...

I wish they could have made it work, because I really liked the structure of this episode. It was paced so well--kind of like 22 Short Stories About Springfield, but with fewer characters, so it's not just a completely random assortment of gags.

Fry's coffee bit was awesome. Bender's story was funny enough. Zoidberg was just ok, Kif and Amy were boring, and Hermes just sucked. And why does Farnsworth wanna be young? I thought he was happy about being old.

The Zapp scenes were disappointing too. Why can't the writers make a good purely-comedy episode nowadays? The big story-arch/character-building episodes, like The Sting and The Why of Fry have managed to be very funny. So why are so many of the all-out goofy, "just for laffs" episodes falling flat? I feel like with a little more effort on the comedy side of things, this episode could have been one of the best ever.
shaddupshaddup

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« Reply #58 on: 06-16-2003 01:22 »

Enjoyed it, had some very funny moments, the best of which was Zoidberg looking for a way to spend his money that made him happy.  Also funny 'human' moments between the characters, like Mr/Mrs Zorbo, Dwight and his dad, Amy and Kif, Farnsworth and his young, large squeeze.  Scuffy very funny too.  Did not understand Leela's motivation at all though.  Why did she accept Zap's invite, why did she want to swim with a whale, why would she ruin Elzar's fish then hide in a dumpster to take the spoiled fish just to recover Amy's watch?  What was in her head?  Fry just seemed disconnected from any plot, though liked the countdown.  Of course we're seeing it in the knowledge there are only a few eps left.  Solid B, though uneven.
evan

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« Reply #59 on: 06-16-2003 01:59 »

Meh.

I agree with (DoThe)Bartman and Werewolf. This episode seemed like such a placeholder. There was too much going on and too little of it was exceptional. I liked Fry in "coffee-time" (which I might con someone into making an avatar of), I liked Zoidberg, and Zapp was his usual funny self.

However, onto the flame-war (perhaps I should start another thread about this), but I absolutely can not stand what's happening to Kif. IMHO, Kif seems to be a completely one-dimenisional character. He only has one sort of feeling for any character. He's driven to despair by Zapp, he's blindly in love with Amy. Blindingly stupid devotion does not equal funny episodes. Devoting so much time to Kif and Amy really hurt this episode a lot, I think. The coupling is too nauseating. For once, I'd like to see Kif stop the baby-talking and, I dunno, just snap or express some distress at Amy. Him following her around like a puppy-dog is not funny. Too much Kif/Amy, too low a grade.

Grade: C-
Frank15

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« Reply #60 on: 06-16-2003 02:15 »

Gee... am I the only one who likes Amy and Kif, and their being together?  It seems like it... while it wasn't the funniest part of the episode, I just enjoyed seeing them... togetherness, or some such thing.

What was the funniest part?  Well, everyone else has said it, and now so will I--Fry's coffee binge.  Gotta' wonder why he was so set on spending his $300 on 100 cups of coffee, though... quite entertaining, anyway, particularly at his hundredth cup....

I guess on the downside... Leela was off tonight, and seemed to only exist in the episode to work with the Amy & Kif plot.  Also, Zoidberg was mostly unfunny tonight.  I'll give it a 4/5.  I enjoyed it, more than I thought I would, admittedly...
[-mArc-]

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« Reply #61 on: 06-16-2003 03:29 »
« Last Edit on: 06-16-2003 03:29 »

Disappointing.

Just the day before I watched this, edel and I saw the Simpsons episode in which Bart and Milhouse enter Flander's house. My main problem with that scene was "let's do random things" hardly counts as a written plot. And then they do a whole Futurama episode about this...

I was hoping for a political episode here (what with the tax rebate), but the whole potential for that was used up after the spoils of war intro already.

Even though the Leela and Amy/Kif plots merged early and the rest later, the episode seemed very disconnected to me. Leela just acted weird and the whale thing seemed unreasonable and forced to find a way to get make the episode work. Which it didn't.

Only upside was Fry on coffee with Billy West doing a great job.
Juliet

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« Reply #62 on: 06-16-2003 03:51 »

I thought it was ok. I liked Amy's tattoo, Fry's gone coffe mad and him at the end was really cool.

The one with Farnsworth and the Fat momma was funny but gross.
Gurlugon500

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« Reply #63 on: 06-16-2003 05:54 »

I'm just glad to see Futurama on instead of some lamely edited overly voiced over movie. Or Nascar. Keep in mind that my negative comments are only my truth, if everyone had no criticism for Futurama, this would be a very boring kiss ass MB. Just trying to keep back the 'hey if you don't like futurama get off this mb' remarks. I love Futurama so leave me alone. Anyway, seems like all the new Futurama as well as the new Simpsons episodes have gotten really crappy. Consistently crappy, though this episode did have a few choice moments. I was dissapointed and wish I knew why these new episodes aren't as great. This episode was so different than Eric Kaplan's  other episode, Hell is Other Robots, which I loved. Too bad. I'm gonna have to tape over this episode.   
sheep555

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« Reply #64 on: 06-16-2003 07:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Gurlugon500:
Anyway, seems like all the new Futurama as well as the new Simpsons episodes have gotten really crappy. Consistently crappy, though this episode did have a few choice moments. 

Well, yes and no. Indeed, everyone can say the Simpsons has "changed direction" (more focus on Homer, more multiple threaded storylines etc), and many people think it's gotten worse for that.

But the recent episodes of Futurama have (in my opinion) been some of the best. Less Than Hero, The Sting and The Farnsworth Parabox have all been really good episodes.

And yes, some episodes are weak (like this one), and I was disappointed. But to say that all of the new futurama episodes "have gotton [sic] crappy" seems extreme, and I would have to completely disagree with you on that point - although yeah, 300 Big Boys was way below average.
Sarge

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« Reply #65 on: 06-16-2003 07:15 »

Wassamatter Juliet? You didn't like my scene of the Professor making out with the fat chick?
Juliet

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« Reply #66 on: 06-16-2003 07:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Sarge:
Wassamatter Juliet? You didn't like my scene of the Professor making out with the fat chick?

the making out scene was good. but the fattness of that womans is just nasty
FlyingTigress

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« Reply #67 on: 06-16-2003 07:32 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
Fry hitting 100 was good.  That whole scene reminded me of something - I can't think of what it was a reference to, especially the hummingbird part.  I KNOW I've seen that before - Spiderman, perhaps?  Bah.


The movie Star Trek: Insurrection had a scene like where time slowed down, and, although I don't recall for certain, may have included an image of a hummingbird slowly flapping its wings.

Kola

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« Reply #68 on: 06-16-2003 09:01 »

Matt Wilson

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« Reply #69 on: 06-16-2003 12:50 »

Worst Futurama of the entire series.

Reasons:

- There is no benefit from being in the future. Just a windbike and the spider invasion. The remaining 20 minutes could have been ANY TV SHOW ON THE PLANET. That's a crime in the Futurama universe to me. You're in the future, so don't do a plot that could've taken place in 2003.

- Aimless direction, uninteresting plot, needless forced-sympathy for Zoidberg, the unnecessary guest star, and the "let's vaguely break the fourth wall" ending, all reminded me of.. gasp... SIMPSONS SEASON 14. The worst thing is that it was written by Eric Kaplan, who knows wayyyy better.

- The jokes just aren't funny. Fry has humor in his coffee obsession, but I'm not amused at the Professor getting younger when he's shown in the past that he DOESN'T want to get younger. I'm not amused at Hermes' son, I'm not amused at a barfing whale. I -was- amused at Bender blowing smoke into a rich person.. UNTIL HE DID IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WITHOUT ADDING A JOKE. Way to fill time, genious, at the expense of humor.

The worst thing is this:

How much greater would this episode be, if the $300 plot only took place during the first Act? That's how Futurama and GOOD cartoons are supposed to be. Concentrate on a couple of people spending money, and then focus on Fry spending his money on something that ends up being a serious source of conflict that can sustain Acts Two and Three (Kif's watch.. DEFINITELY NOT).

22 minutes of $300 spending... it just felt like a first draft script that somehow made it through pre-production without revision.

It also could have been an Anthology of Interest story.
VelourFog

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« Reply #70 on: 06-16-2003 13:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Gurlugon500:
Keep in mind that my negative comments are only my truth, if everyone had no criticism for Futurama, this would be a very boring kiss ass MB. Just trying to keep back the 'hey if you don't like futurama get off this mb' remarks.
 This episode was so different than Eric Kaplan's   
woah. defensive much? did someone beat you when you were a puppy?

anyway. if you notice a lot of us had negative things to say about this episode, so you aren't coming out of left field.

and eric kaplan wrote this episode? oh man, I shoulda known, i hate him.

Timo

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« Reply #71 on: 06-16-2003 13:33 »

Wow.  I am surprised at the level of displeasure with this episode.  I loved it - thought it was frickin' hilarious all the way through.  5 out of 5.  (And thanks to football, I still haven't even seen "The Route Of All Evil." ) 

The end cemented it as one of my all-time favorites - The Flash was one of my three favorite comic book characters.  There was one "scene" in an issue that had Flash as his civilian alter-ego watching a movie in a crowded theater.  Suddenly he notices that the film has stopped and nobody is moving.  Turns out there is a bullet that is hitting him, and caused him to accelerate to super-speed.  Someone had opened fire with a hail of bullets in the theater.  While everyone else is suspended, Flash wanders around the theater and picks all of the bullets out of the air before they hit anyone.  Fry's "coffee-time" scene was almost identical.  The "orange blur" was a nice touch.

 
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Originally posted by Sarge:
 You should've seen the drawings with the dead fish sticking out of her crotch.

You can't drop that on us, and then not show it.

Post!  Post!  Surely one of these drawings must be lying around somewhere...
FishyJoe

Honorary German
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« Reply #72 on: 06-16-2003 13:34 »

Haha. Yeah, Eric Kaplan. Having recently fallen in love with Why Must I Be A Crustacean In Love, I kinda like him now. But he's way overrated. Hell Is Other Robots is one of the worst episodes ever, and Jurrassic Bark, as good as it was, is just a rehash of Luck of the Fryrish.
SimPurist

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« Reply #73 on: 06-16-2003 13:35 »

6.5/10

A meh episode at best. I wouldn't call it a 22 Short Films retread though, it's more like A Flight to Remember. The difference is that the former had more focus and charm. The only good stories were Fry's and Zoidberg's. The Clockstoppers parody had me rolling on the floor, and Zoidberg never fails to crack me up. Farnsworth's story grossed me out, big time (not to mention it was bit of a retread from Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles). Roseanne's appearance was rather pointless (why couldn't her head be in a jar?). This episode could be Futurama's weakest (like DtB, I kinda enjoyed Pharoah to Remember, despite the uninspired plot).
asianlightning

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« Reply #74 on: 06-16-2003 13:49 »

Seemed to me to be a case of too many side plots, not enough time to tell 'em. The whole Hermes/Dexter thing was just pointless. The Amy/Kif story was OK, but I only mildly chuckled when MuShuu chundered all in his tank. The coffee thing with Fry was pretty good, and the whole slo-mo part was great, but after he saves everyone from the fire, I was really disappointed that they don't even cut back to him, the episode just cuts to an end.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #75 on: 06-16-2003 14:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Matt Wilson:
Aimless direction, uninteresting plot, needless forced-sympathy for Zoidberg, the unnecessary guest star, and the "let's vaguely break the fourth wall" ending, all reminded me of... gasp... SIMPSONS SEASON 14.
I thought I got a bad Simpsons vibe from this one, but I wasn't sure why.  I think you've about got it surrounded, though.  The winkingly self-deprecating ending wouldn't have been as bad if I hadn't already seen it on The Simpsons, but I could have done without it.  Some of the gags seemed too Simpson-y, like the running "whale biologist" joke.  (Or maybe that was just lame.)

Still, I should point out that this episode was better than anything I've seen on The Simpsons in years, and of course it was better than most everything else on television.  Let's not forget about that.  This episode did have some really funny stuff; for some reason I liked Dwight's "I wish I had two mommies!"
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #76 on: 06-16-2003 16:38 »

What can I say? I really loved this episode. Coffe-time, Bender tossing out the diamond, the upchucking whale, the awesome WWII-style opening newsreel, I loved it all. Minor weak points in the Hermes plot, but the rest I loved.

I do agree that this ins't Futurama taking full advantage of its time period, but funny nonetheless. And I find Amy and Kif annoying too. A girl that hot shouldn't be stuck with Kif!

Rating: A-.
boingo2000

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« Reply #77 on: 06-16-2003 17:50 »

Weakest episode in a good long while.  Well, they can't all be gems.  However, this episode still has some things to reccomend.  I like the whale biologist calling 'em as he sees 'em.  I like Zoidberg casually woop-whooping away frrom Elzar's.  While the story and Billy West were good, the whole coffee countdown thing seemed derivitave.  (ESPECIALLY considering the coffee counter remined me of South Park's It Hits the Fan, where they count the number of times "sh*t" is said using a similar counter.)  I liked the Nixon Fun Bill going down three dollars, though (especially since I thought the machine would just keep the bill and Fry would realize he just accidently spent his whole refund on one cup of coffee).  And I like the term "grave robbing space mushrooms."  So what I'm trying to say is this isn't a BAD episode.  It's just never gonna rank among the greats.
zozer

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« Reply #78 on: 06-16-2003 17:58 »

eh, it coulda been better. what was up with amy having tatoos on her but.
Bendable

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« Reply #79 on: 06-16-2003 18:21 »

This was a good episode and a nice break from all the "touching" episodes lately (although I do love those touching moments).  Plus, IMHO, I think the bit with Fry, the coffee, and his rescue of others are the most hilarious moments in Futurama and that's saying a lot.
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