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Teral

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« Reply #80 on: 05-18-2003 11:17 »
« Last Edit on: 05-18-2003 11:17 »

The difference is, the first 10 million bought them 72 episodes, the next 10 mill will only get them 10-12 episodes. Since the aquisition of Futurama was CN's biggest investment, I don't think they would take on the additional gamble of producing new episodes.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I'm rather pessimistic. Great respect and gratitude to CN for their handling of the show, but they only have so many funds to spread around.

TOTPD trying to brighten things up a bit

VelourFog

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« Reply #81 on: 05-18-2003 11:35 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
  Sarcasm is a lost art, Velour.

I'm keeping it alive! I belong in a museum!



"cuter than a chinchilla, and only twice as bitey" -rach
Teral

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« Reply #82 on: 05-18-2003 11:47 »

Billy West: "Now with the death of sarcasm and the death of irony, all that's left is parody or satire or something."
Killerfox

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« Reply #83 on: 05-18-2003 12:32 »

well as i see it the only problem is the copyright.

CN has got the money to buy it and produce new episodes and most important  will do it
Nixorbo

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« Reply #84 on: 05-18-2003 16:21 »

Cartoon Network has already blown their wad on Futurama, Family Guy, and Home Movies.  You people are deluding yourselves if you truly believe that they will order new episodes.
zozer

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« Reply #85 on: 05-18-2003 17:37 »

if cn wanted to buy full rights to futurama they could. they are owned by one of the richest men in the world(ted turner).

by the way i hate ted turner with a passion.
VelourFog

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« Reply #86 on: 05-18-2003 20:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
Cartoon Network has already blown their wad on Futurama, Family Guy, and Home Movies.  You people are deluding yourselves if you truly believe that they will order new episodes.
Ben? Is that you?

PCC Fred

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« Reply #87 on: 05-18-2003 20:58 »

We are all Ben.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #88 on: 05-18-2003 23:21 »
« Last Edit on: 05-18-2003 23:21 »

I AM NIXORBO OF BEN.  PREPARE TO BE ASSIMILATED.  YOUR PERSONAL DISTINCTIVENESS WILL BE ADDED TO OUR OWN.  RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.  ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOBEN.

And unless Turner is a huge fan of the show, somehow I doubt he's going to fork over the coin necessary for such a venture.

What can I say?  I just like bursting people's bubbles.  With a shotgun.
Trekzilla3k

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« Reply #89 on: 05-19-2003 16:05 »

Hope springs eternal
But
Pessimism falls flat
Killerfox

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« Reply #90 on: 05-19-2003 20:28 »

really true and poetic
Nixorbo

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« Reply #91 on: 05-19-2003 21:08 »

Always expect the worst, that way you can only be pleasantly surprised.
Trekzilla3k

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« Reply #92 on: 05-19-2003 22:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Killerfox:
really true and poetic

Why thank you!
  flirt

Time flies like an arrow.
Fruit flies like a banana
GROUCHO MARX
SQFreak

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« Reply #93 on: 05-19-2003 22:30 »

Look, why don't we start an online petition to ask CN, respectfully, of course, to order new episodes.

Here's my first guess at wording:

A Petition to Cartoon Network and Turner Broadcasting Requesting the Order of New Episodes of Futurama

To: Executive Director, Cartoon Network
    Ted Turner, Owner, Turner Broadcasting
    Chief Operating Officer, Turner Broadcasting
    Program Director, Cartoon Network

   The television show Futurama was effectively killed by Fox Broadcasting Corporation on May 15, 2003, when Fox declined to order new episodes and did not schedule a timeslot in the 2003-2004 Programming Year schedule for Futurama. We, the fans of Futurama, sincerely appreciate the support of Cartoon Network and Turner Broadcasting in purchasing syndication rights to Futurama and promoting it more than Fox ever did. We have seen, as we are sure you have, the very high ratings for Futurama on Cartoon Network, and, despite the fact that it is on its second run, there has been little drop in ratings. For a while, Futurama was the highest rated television show on Cartoon Network.
    Therefore, we submit that new episodes of Futurama will only increase ratings, market share, advertising dollars, and thus profits for Cartoon Network and Turner Broadcasting. It will provide us, the fans of the show, quality entertainment.
    We find that it is in the best interests of Cartoon Network and Turner Broadcasting to order new episodes of Futurama and we ask you to do so.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned
Kryten

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« Reply #94 on: 05-20-2003 01:01 »

Because, y'know, petitions have been SO successful in the past.
Venus

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« Reply #95 on: 05-20-2003 01:19 »

probably won't work. but if you really wanna give it a go i suggest you also explain to them all that Fox has done to it. All the premptions, the feud with matt, and such, cause cn is gonna assume Fox cancelled it for a valid reason and would be wary to pick it up even if they had the funds.
The Baz

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« Reply #96 on: 05-20-2003 01:22 »

Sad.
I've been a Futurama fan from the begining.  Even though it seemed like Futurama was dead months ago, this is just a twist to the knife.

Thank you to Futurama and everyone who worked on the show!  As well as the incredible Futurama community online which has survived for so many years (I'm sure to FOX's dismay).
Dr_Dave

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« Reply #97 on: 05-20-2003 08:05 »

Forget petitions.  Find out who is in charge of programming at Cartoon Network (I'm pretty sure that it isn't "Captain Outrageous" ).  Send them a nice business letter.  Tell them how much you enjoy watching Futurama on Cartoon Network.  Don't forget to mention the name of your local cable company.  Then politely ask if Cartoon Network is considering ordering new episodes of Futurama, since the show is so popular on CN.

Good luck.
Trekzilla3k

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« Reply #98 on: 05-20-2003 09:29 »

^
Now THAT sounds like a logical and valid way of doing things.....
getak2003

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« Reply #99 on: 05-20-2003 11:30 »

indeed, one REAL letter made of ATOMS not electrical signals, or varying magnitisms on a metal plate is worth 10,000 of those petition signatures, 1,000 E-mail, and ten trillion angry posts on a message board, also, if they are angry letters, they are all put in the circular file (IE trash can).

keep it clean, keep it professional, have your five closest friends sign it as well.

Now, i have word running, so where do i send this thing? i need an adress you know.
Monty Carlo

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« Reply #100 on: 05-20-2003 12:07 »

On the _optomistic_ side of things, from what I have read, Futurama is pulling the biggest audiences of young males on television for its timeslot.  I'm no TV exec, but I know that's a good sign.

If they think they can turn a profit, Cartoon Network will be able to find the money to finance new episodes of Futurama.  Large numbers of viewers with disposable cash translates to advertising revenue.  Strategically, money invested into Adult Swim (Futurama being the keystone) will transform the station into something more than a mere kiddie station running old WB cartoons (not that those aren't great).
Anarchist

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« Reply #101 on: 05-20-2003 12:19 »

CN isn't FOX. They *might* actually take letters into consideration, if they get enough of them.
getak2003

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« Reply #102 on: 05-20-2003 13:02 »

from what i hear CN is not as large as i thought previously. so one letter to them is worth three to fox. it is like sending a complaint to walmart versus some mom and pop store, although maybe not that much, it is a good comparison.
Strat

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« Reply #103 on: 05-20-2003 16:23 »

CN is not as large as Fox, and that could be a stumbling block.  From the looks of it, Futurama ain't cheap.
getak2003

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« Reply #104 on: 05-20-2003 16:36 »

it has more potential than sending fox anything....
Killerfox

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« Reply #105 on: 05-20-2003 17:02 »

Kryten: we were dealing with FOX b-4 so maybe CN will really care about it.

P.D.:Make another topic for this discussion wink
PCC Fred

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« Reply #106 on: 05-20-2003 17:57 »

Has anyone noticed how pratically everyone banging on about getting CN to renew the show have only joined PEEL in the last couple of months or so?
Anarchist

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« Reply #107 on: 05-20-2003 18:58 »

What's your point?
PCC Fred

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« Reply #108 on: 05-20-2003 19:00 »
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I just found it amusing that Killerfox thought it neccessary to point out to Kryten that it was FOX we were dealing with before.
zozer

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« Reply #109 on: 05-20-2003 19:02 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Has anyone noticed how pratically everyone banging on about getting CN to renew the show have only joined PEEL in the last couple of months or so?

nope. ive hardly said a word. im just sittin here in my chair laughing at ya'lls unrealistic ideas. if ya'll think that fox lady is stubborn, ya havent paid any attition to  ol' ted turner. that greedy, arrogent, liberal ho wouldn't pay another nickel on that show. I hate to sound like a pestimest, but i'm just bein' honest.

alexvilagosh

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« Reply #110 on: 05-21-2003 03:23 »

CN could renew it or pick it up properly, but i think not! They have enough of there stupid shows to care!

Lucky I changed my avatar, zozer, you have the one i had for a while. I would have confused myself!
CyberKnight

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« Reply #111 on: 05-21-2003 03:47 »

 
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Originally posted by zozer:
 nope. ive hardly said a word...

Read the sentence. PCC Fred noted that everyone banging on about CN vs FOX signed up in the last couple of months, not that everyone who signed up in the last couple of months is banging on about CN vs FOX.

Aside from downright fading into obscurity, the future options for Futurama, in order of likelihood (from most to least) are, as I see it:

#1. No more episodes or movies. The franchise continues in the form of comics, toys, games, etc.

Note: Here we drop a fair few pegs on the probability scale.

#2. A Futurama movie, or movies are made.

Note: Another huge drop.

#3. At some point in the future, FOX realises it has absolutely no programming and orders a new series of Futurama. We're talking in the magnitude of years, here, and it would require a change of FOX management, to one who were not personally vendetted against MG.

#4. CN orders the show. THIS IS VERY VERY VERY UNLIKELY. Firstly, CN do not have the cash to outlay on NEW episodes, when they wouldn't get much higher ratings than the reruns. Secondly, if they need more material, they'll just buy the syndication rights to another show.
dr_Dean_in _Oz

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« Reply #112 on: 05-21-2003 04:36 »
« Last Edit on: 05-22-2003 00:00 »

i think we should wait until we all see the last episode of futurama before asking anyone to renew it(not that its likley anyhow). Luckely for us fans, futurama actually got a proper ending episode and i think after seeing it we will feel completed that we finally have some closure and move on with our lives. It might be so good that we dont want any more.

rest in PEACE
(please dont disturb)
dr_Dean_in _Oz

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« Reply #113 on: 05-21-2003 04:38 »
« Last Edit on: 05-22-2003 00:00 »

AND ON THE 8TH DAY, GOD CREATED THE EDIT BUTTON

thanx  smile
Ricky

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« Reply #114 on: 05-21-2003 05:42 »

"No one knows where, when or how people used sarcasm. But our fungineers think it might have sounded something like this":

dude! great idea! why didn't WE think of that

*confused family of four look at eachother and decide to go see the funny gopher show again*
Dr_Dave

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« Reply #115 on: 05-22-2003 18:54 »

Just a few random thoughts (ok, so I'm bored) on the issue of  Cartoon Network purchasing new episodes of Futurama:

Lacking access to CN's balance sheet, no one knows what CN can or cannot afford.

Lacking access to all the contracts and legal niceties involving Curiosity Company, F*x (the network whose name we dare not speak!) and CN, we have no way of knowing if CN can purchase new episodes.

Futurama is CN's most expensive acquisition to date at $10 million for 5 years.  It put Adult Swim on the map, and scored ratings that make network advertising executives scratch their palms in glee (that's greed, y'all).  If CN thinks the business case is strong enough, and there are no roadblocks, then they might consider ordering more episodes.  It has been done before.

In February, CN announced its new program initiatives for 2003.  This included three new series, 100 new episodes for nine original CN programs (e.g., Samauri Jack), around 600 new episodes for sixteen other programs (e.g., Pokemon), plus new material for Adult Swim.  No costs were announced, but clearly CN is willing to spend money on new programming.

It is unlikely that CN would be interested in new episodes for at least a year.  Sometime this fall, probably in November, F*x will release the last 16 episodes from the 5th season of Futurama to CN.  That should be enough to keep Futurama fresh for another year.

In any case, it wouldn't hurt to drop CN a line as I mentioned earlier.  If CN knows that there is an interest, they may look into it.  Hey, you never know!

"You may fire when ready, Gridley!"
zozer

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« Reply #116 on: 05-22-2003 19:33 »

the only time cn ever spends so much money to make a new show is on the shows that are aired on cartoon-cartoon fridays. the only way i forsee cn ording new episodes is if they clean it up(and i honastly dont think Matt Groening is willing to do that).
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