SQFreak
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« Reply #80 on: 04-13-2003 18:26 »
« Last Edit on: 04-13-2003 18:26 »
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Originally posted by Damitol: The USA Today article is an annual thing that is pretty accurate, but Futurama is not cancelled until FOX releases the memo saying it is. Yes and no. Last year, the article was published with Futurama "on the bubble." There was a portion of the paper to cut out so that you could check off what you wanted to happen to each show (Keep It, Don't Care, Cancel It) and mail it to USA TODAY. They also made a mention that you could vote on their Website. On the Website, by the afternoon after the article was published, Futurama was moved to "Cancelled (or near death)" and ceased to be an option of a show that you could vote for or against. EDIT: New page! New page!
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Action Jacktion
Professor
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"But first, an hour of King of the Hill."
Damn them!
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DrThunder88
DOOP Secretary
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Oh, jeez...the company in the list of the dead is just horrible. Futurama doesn't deserve to be on the same list as AUSA, Hidden Hills, and In-Laws (also the Pitts and Mr. Sterling). The first injustice was to kill the show, the final injustice was to bury it in a heap of crappiest crap ever crapped by a crapping crapper.
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Scythemantis
Crustacean
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Did anyone else ever watch "pinky and the brain?" For a show aimed at kids, it was hugely sophisticated, and it was cancelled for it. It's not a "theory" or something, the network really did SAY it was too "high brow" for kids!!! They changed it to that godawful newer show with the obnoxious elmyra from tiny toons.
Intelligence and TV don't mix.
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Torn Receipt
Crustacean
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True. I loved Pinky and the Brain, but indeed, most kids won't get it. Unless it's:
Duhh...hey Ash, whad'ya want to do?! Duhh...Let's go catch some Pokemon, but this time, I'm sure everything will go just fine. *everthing does NOT go just fine* Duhh....who could have seen that coming, like in the 92 previous episodes with the same plot but different characters!
Fry was really on to something in "When Aliens Attack".
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The Knux Bender
Crustacean
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I didn't know that was the reason Pinky and The Brain was cancelled. Was an entertaining show I believe.
I hope (however highly doubtful) that somebody has the money to fund Futurama new episodes.
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The Knux Bender
Crustacean
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Originally posted by Torn Receipt:"Fry was really on to something in "When Aliens Attack" ". Yeah that is so true.
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Allen
Professor
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What I don't get is this. A show is cancelled, but the network doesn't say a thing about it. This is the fate of most cartoons. They just stop showing them. Take X-men Evolution. Apparently that was cancelled, but the network gave no clue. Also it just seems to be the general trend for any cancelled show nowadays. Why? Why? WHY? Oh sorry!
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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FOX=Crap.
I say we hijack a Plane and Fly it into the FOX HQ threaten to make the seats sticky.
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #102 on: 04-15-2003 02:57 »
« Last Edit on: 08-24-2008 11:54 »
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As reasonable people, we must realize we will occasionally be forced to deal with un-reasonable people (certain Fux exec's). To said un-reasonable people, their vendetta, ego, saving face, call it what you will, is more important than everything else. Money, market share, keeping the stockholders happy; everything. Now, if I'm reading this thread correctly, the consensus on a reprieve for Futurama seems to be that: 1) Fux is a lost cause (DUH!) 2) CN just plain doesn't have the money. 3) Direct to DVD has capital outlay and ROI problems. 4) A Movie has problems similar to #3. 5) Other networks probably won't be interested in broadcasting a... a... a... cartoon!Hmm. That last one... If someone at ABC (for discussion's sake only) looks at the demographics, DVD sales, the merchandise sales, international licensing the Emmy's and Emmy nominations, yadda, yadda, yadda, and realizes ABC could make a $h!+load of profit... fresh Futurama ep's just might make it on the air. Don't take me wrong: I'm not saying it's easy, only that it's possible... If the stars are just right... Now, what can we do? Watch the ep's on CN. Keep buying the merchandise; the DVD's, the comic books, the calendars, and so on. Keep the level of interest high; Internet chatter, fanfic's, heck, let's have conventions! I don't care! To a certain degree, the future of Futurama is in the fan's hands. Ah, hope springs eternal...
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The Knux Bender
Crustacean
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:Hmm. That last one... If someone at ABC (for discussion's sake only[/u]) looks at the demographics, DVD sales, the merchandise sales, international licensing the Emmy's and Emmy nominations, yadda, yadda, yadda, and realizes ABC could make a $h!+load of profit... fresh Futurama ep's just might make it on the air. Don't take me wrong: I'm not saying it's easy, only that it's possible... If the stars are just right... ABC, out of all the major networks in America, is probably the most likely to buy it. And that is a big if.
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The Knux Bender
Crustacean
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Originally posted by SpaceCase: 1) Fux is a lost cause (DUH!) Oh yeah?! Well we can build our own Fox Network! With blackjack and hookers! Wait, they already have hookers.
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Action Jacktion
Professor
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« Reply #106 on: 04-15-2003 11:37 »
« Last Edit on: 04-15-2003 11:37 »
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I think a TV movie would be more realistic than a theatrical release. It'd be easier for Cartoon Network to scrape together enough money of that than for a whole season. But they usually don't make their own movies, and they never do the big sweeps events that a movie would need to get good enough ratings. Now, Sci-Fi loves to throw money at movies and mini-series. They did the tedious, twenty-hour Taken, which apparently they're not going to show again. But unfortunately, Sci-Fi (like everyone else) doesn't have much interest in cartoons, at least not any more. Originally posted by SpaceCase: If the stars are just right... Which are you trying to revive, Futurama or Cthulhu?
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Matt Wilson
Crustacean
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What Cartoon Network should do.
Produce 5 new episodes of Futurama.
Why? Because there are 5 episodes of Mission Hill already written. There are 5 episodes of Family Guy already planned (before the show was cancelled). And I'm sure as hell that there are at least 5 Futurama stories that were planned.
Cartoon Network could purchase 5 or 6 episodes of each show. It would cost a lot less than 13 episodes, and it would prove to be a valuable test run to see what shows the viewers would want to see more of.
Right now, Futurama is the top-rated program on CN, placed at #9 out of 3,170 half-hours of the month. That's something they're paying attention to.
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DrThunder88
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by SpaceCase: Hmm. That last one... If someone at ABC (for discussion's sake only[/u]) looks at the demographics, DVD sales, the merchandise sales, international licensing the Emmy's and Emmy nominations, yadda, yadda, yadda, and realizes ABC could make a $h!+load of profit... fresh Futurama ep's just might make it on the air. Yeah, but would we really want Futurama to be run by Disney?
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The Knux Bender
Crustacean
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Originally posted by SpaceCase: I use ABC as an example only![/b] I'm alreeady getting out my sackcloth and ashes. Yeah I know. Besides UPN and WB don't have any real money. Imagine Futurama on UPN......gag!
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evan
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion: I hear NBC is working on a primetime computer-animated series set to start next year. And TNN* will soon have a block of "adult" cartoons, including the new Ren and Stimpy (which brings back John K. but not Billy West). Are TV networks finally trying grown-up cartoons again? It's probably not a trend, but it's interesting.
*TNN now apparently wants to be called "Spike TV." Really. But if they saved Futurama, I'd never make fun of their name again. (Okay, maybe just a little.) IMHO, "Futurama" can be seen as damaged merchandise. FOX treated it so poorly that it's only finally able to regain some sort of dignity (via CN.) I seriously doubt TNN would be interested in picking up new episodes. Even if "Spike TV (so bad!)" were to pick up Futurama, that leaves us with this. 1. TNN isn't seen by that many people. For me, at least, the only place I can see TNN is on digital cable. TNN's not part of many cable packages. 2. It's TNN! TNN = crap. Okay, okay, aside from the A-Team repeats, it's crap. 3. I don't see a major cross-over between Futurama fans and TNN. Futurama would be better suited for the Sci-Fi channel. TNN's very "let's get drunk and watch ultra-ball (some stupid basketball on trampolines crap.)" I don't see it fitting in.
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Chalic
Bending Unit
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Hey! I have an idea, maybe we could all try to contact as many billionaires as we can, and see if we can convice them to fund the creation of a new tv network and put up the funds to convince the original cast and team to come back and make a new season!
Okay, so I'm delusional and I need to sleep some, but..okay, no buts. That's the only way we'd see new Futurama episods being made though. It's just not going to happen, no matter how loud the fans clamor.
Also, is anyone else of the opinion that it would probably be hard to even get the voice cast back to make new ep's? I mean, of all the voice actors, only John DiMaggio and Billy West were on the commentaries. Now this may be jumping the gun, but I get the feeling that Katey Sagal wouldn't be very interested in coming back even if they could get some network to order up a new season. I could be wrong, and for the potential chance of Futurama ever seeing light of day, I hope I am.
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The Knux Bender
Crustacean
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Originally posted by Chalic: Hey! I have an idea, maybe we could all try to contact as many billionaires as we can, and see if we can convice them to fund the creation of a new tv network and put up the funds to convince the original cast and team to come back and make a new season! Um, shall it be called the "Better Than Fox Network" or BTFN?
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Gocad
Space Pope
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Originally posted by Chalic: Also, is anyone else of the opinion that it would probably be hard to even get the voice cast back to make new ep's? I mean, of all the voice actors, only John DiMaggio and Billy West were on the commentaries. Now this may be jumping the gun, but I get the feeling that Katey Sagal wouldn't be very interested in coming back even if they could get some network to order up a new season. I could be wrong, and for the potential chance of Futurama ever seeing light of day, I hope I am. As said before many times: Getting the actors back isn't the problem. Especially Katey Segal who only does Leela. Recording her lines wouldn't be a problem, since that can be done everywhere. (Think of Al Gore or other guest stars. Their voices were recorded at different locations.) Getting back the animators is the real problem.
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getak2003
Bending Unit
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Yeah, animation is one thing, but we will need the writters too. that is the heart of the show, also once a show reveals the forgone conclusion, such as the leela/fry falling in love thing, well it is dead, because that is the end of the master plot. best you can get after that is a ten years down the line how are they doing now and hey have to conquer some ancient enemy thing.
end the master and end the series. the writters knew the end was near, so they made the last episode a closer, although as i hear not a complete closer.
that is just how it happens, jsut like mulder finding out the damn truth. it happened, i think. did it? i missed the last episode because i wanted to watch futurama.
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #119 on: 04-18-2003 23:31 »
« Last Edit on: 11-15-2008 09:13 »
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I just this moment reaized another possibility: How'z about either a limited-run series or a miniseries? And, yes, reassembling the team may be a problem. But nothing's going to happen unless it makes money!It's ironic: I only discovered Futurama when CN started airing the eps. I haven't had four years to savor the show and vent my ire at Fux. Almost as soon as I found the show, guess what? I find it's on hiatus! No new eps! Then, just to pile things on, it's CANCELLED! No new ep's. No more ep's. No nothing. Permanently. Period. Warning: Rant follows. <Rant> And why? 'Cuz some microcephalic 8@$+@RD at Fux was too short-sighted to realize MG & Co. were actually making the show better by not accepting Fux's inane "suggestions." Futurama could've made Fux a boatload of money, but n-o-o-o-o-o! Somebody's bruised ego was more important than promoting a killer of a show! </Rant>
<turns thermostat down 1000 Kelvin> My frustration knows no limits... It's like going into Slurm withdrawl!
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