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[-mArc-]

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« on: 01-24-2003 01:24 »

What would you think about a Futurama picket within say 3 weeks?

The time is as right as it can be:
  • It's decision time
  • Many of the Futurama writers/producers/artists are actually free again due to winter pause
  • Huge success of Futurama on Cartoon Network
  • Won the animation Emmy since
  • Nominated for the Annie next week
  • They absolutely need shows for next winter due to their many cancellations. Comedy went down on FOX.
  • We got about 130,000 signatures to deliver (I'd remove all single name ones)
  • I'd probably be able to get support by some of the people behind Futurama, but it mustn't look like they initiated it.

What do you think about a in person picket in LA? Even if you arent from the region, just discuss if it's a good idea to go the last step and if so, how to do it (ideas?). If you actually are from the reason and would be interested in going there/helping/delivering, maybe contact me by email, too.
SQFreak

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« Reply #1 on: 01-24-2003 01:35 »

They might take us seriously. I'm on the other side of the country, so I can't help.

Just get the media to cover it. I'll bet at the very least TechTV will do a story on it. They did one when Futurama was put on hiatus. (Or did they say "hate us"? It's hard to tell when you're crying on the phone. -Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, speaking on having the Dilbert TV show put on hiatus)

130,000 signatures won't matter to FOX. They expect 10 million viewers, or else. Futurama is making better ratings in reruns (Cartoon Network) than some shows are on minor networks. Wasn't the preliminary rating a 3.something? How FOX can ignore that, I don't know.

But I think we may have to come to grips with the fact that there may be nothing we can do to save Futurama.

"I'm a thing!" -Bender, in "A Fishful of Dollars"

"Watching television shows doesn't create psycho killers; cancelling TV shows does!" --Scary Movie
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« Reply #2 on: 01-24-2003 01:42 »

Well, it would be the last effort we can really do. I sort of think that 130,000 signatures are quite impressive as this is only the people we were able to reach via web, so I don't think they'd just toss it away without thinking.
SQFreak

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« Reply #3 on: 01-24-2003 01:47 »

*ahem*FOX*ahem*
PCC Fred

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« Reply #4 on: 01-24-2003 05:11 »

 
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Originally posted by SQFreak:
Just get the media to cover it.

FOX News would probably cover it, and home in on the nerdiest, craziest person in the group, which'll make it look like a big joke to everyone.
Timo

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« Reply #5 on: 01-24-2003 09:14 »

I agree with [-mArc-] - if we are ever going to try anything, now is the time.  Maybe it won't work.  But doing nothing *definitely* won't bring the show back.

Along with all the other points, be sure to point out the ratings Futurama has gotten on Cartoon Network - for reruns, no less - when the show is promoted properly and shown in an appropriate timeslot.  (Though it could be earlier, as well).

I know - it's Fox.  But if there is any chance that banging our heads on the wall will break through that wall, it's now.
Zed 85

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« Reply #6 on: 01-24-2003 11:25 »

If you do it in New York in 3 weeks then I could join in!  big grin

Seriously though, even if it doesn't make national headlines, any publicity would be good publicity, although FOX will ultimately probably do what Fred has said, try and twist it around and make us look stupid and petty. What maybe an idea is that we contact local newspapers or stations, and that way we could get more of a coverage, that is probably less biased against us.  smile
SQFreak

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« Reply #7 on: 01-24-2003 12:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Zed 85:
If you do it in New York in 3 weeks then I could join in!   big grin

New York doesn't do much good, since the Twentieth (Thirtieth) Century Fox Studios are in Los Angeles.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #8 on: 01-24-2003 12:22 »

As much as I'd love to fly all the way cross country to picket in LA, I can't, for an obvious reason.
bankrupt

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« Reply #9 on: 01-24-2003 12:39 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
 FOX News would probably cover it, and home in on the nerdiest, craziest person in the group, which'll make it look like a big joke to everyone.

You're probably right.  I say do it anyways. It would at least show them that fans are care about the show enough to organize something.

evan

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« Reply #10 on: 01-24-2003 12:47 »

Maybe we all should be wearing these...

homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #11 on: 01-24-2003 12:52 »

The show is going to be cancelled it doesn't matter what we do to stop it from being cancelled.

I think the Cartoon Network reruns thing was and will ever be the only thing Fox will do and it made them some money by selling the reruns.


Smitty

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« Reply #12 on: 01-24-2003 13:01 »

Well I'm a few thousand miles in the wrong direction to actually be there but I could be sat here waving my little flag! It's a good idea and might work if enough people are there.
aslate

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« Reply #13 on: 01-24-2003 14:22 »

We can all offer up a prayer to God?

I'm in England, no chance of me joining in, but i'd like to have supported it.

No, seriously, it'd be a good time to try if any. HJS, that negative attitude isn't the best thing to do, and you've had it everywhere, you ok?
Kazzahdrane

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« Reply #14 on: 01-24-2003 14:56 »

I'm in Scotland, but I would be happy to write emails to important press people in the USA...anything I can do to help save my favourite TV show.
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #15 on: 01-24-2003 15:13 »

I'm ok and I'm sorry that I have a negative attitude about this. It's just don't think that Fox isn't going to change there minds about canceling the show.I wish they could change there minds and not cancel Futurama but being Fox they will not.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #16 on: 01-24-2003 15:38 »

Quite frankly, I agree with HomJay.  Sure, it'll be a nice gesture and everything, but do you really think anything will be accomplished?  Somehow I don't see hordes of people pouring out and swamping the region.  It's not the friggin' world economic whatever, it's a tv show.  In the end, that's what it all comes down to.  At some point you have to realize it's over.  That doesn't mean we can't still enjoy the show, and even retain some small hope that someone will come to his or her senses.  But a PICKET?  For a TV SHOW?  Come on now.
Teral

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« Reply #17 on: 01-24-2003 15:43 »

I think it's a great idea. As mArc listed, lots of things work in Futurama's favor right now, and if FOX really is in need for good shows next season, they might be willing to listen. I think we might have a chance to succeed.

That's assuming the picket becomes reality. For FOX to take notice we need large numbers of fans to attend. And prefferably the media to cover it, but I guess the people behind Futurama can help us there (and TechTV sounds like a good possibility).

In conclusion: I say go for it.

People who can't come to LA should write more letters to FOX, with a bit of timing a new wave of letters could hit the FOX mailboxes around the day of the picket.
evan

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« Reply #18 on: 01-24-2003 17:05 »

I also agree with HoJew. As much as I love the show, I really think a picket would be the silliest thing we could do. Not counting that, according to the PEEL map, there are only 3 PEELers near L.A. So, Tzlk, Randi, and Jon...the outcome would entirely rest on your shoulders.

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iliketowankalot

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« Reply #19 on: 01-24-2003 17:26 »

Man, so many negative people giving up without a fight, I think its worth it no matter how slim the chances are or how much of a nerd you'll look.
You people are quiters, I'd do anything to try save Futurama, hell I even with on a 4 day wanking strike when I first head of it been cancelled
Venus

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« Reply #20 on: 01-24-2003 17:45 »

i'm not sure if a picket would work cause of the limited number of peelers available in the area,
but maybe we could get the letter campain started up again but this time instead of having them addressed to Fox, we send them to either someone associated with Fox or maybe a peeler. My reasoning is, is that if Fox gets a handful of letters a day they can quietly shred them without anyone knowing, but have someone show up on their front door with several hefty bags full of letters then maybe someone would take notice.
Zed 85

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« Reply #21 on: 01-24-2003 17:58 »

What everyone would pay attention to, and what I've been suggesting from the outset, is that we fire several Rocket Propelled Grenades at FOX Plaza then start issuing demands.

Note sarcasm, Agent Jones
PCC Fred

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« Reply #22 on: 01-24-2003 20:49 »

 
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Originally posted by aslate:
We can all offer up a prayer to God?

I'm way ahead of you.

[-mArc-]

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« Reply #23 on: 01-25-2003 03:06 »

Maybe picket is the wrong word. It would sort of be a petition delivery in person. We wouldn't limit it to peelers, but also ask on CGEF. Only if they'd not let us hand over the petition, i'd be for some sort of more picketty activity.
Kazzahdrane

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« Reply #24 on: 01-25-2003 06:47 »

Sounds good [-mArc-].
Teral

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« Reply #25 on: 01-25-2003 08:29 »

At least we'll be sure that FOX become aare of the petition.

And if that fails, they delivery boy/girls can chain themself to the glas doors at FOX Plaza, and chant "hell no, we wont go".
aslate

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« Reply #26 on: 01-25-2003 13:00 »

"Hey hey, ho ho, 100110!"
Guy

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« Reply #27 on: 01-25-2003 13:43 »

Well, I think that if you can get people to do it, than you should go for it, although I don't think it will make much difference.
bart182

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« Reply #28 on: 01-25-2003 15:43 »

fans in the past have done this with other shows, and got em renewed... I know I could go to the picket, and I can think of maybe 6 others.

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Carbito

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« Reply #29 on: 01-25-2003 23:29 »

That sounds like a great idea. It will really help in the decision on Futurama. Sadly I can't be there becasue I'm all the way over in Australia but I urge all americans in the area to go!
Guy

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« Reply #30 on: 01-26-2003 05:50 »

As usual cold, cynical Nix is correct. Nice gesture, but it's really a last resort. Although last resorts are what we seem to be running up to now.

 
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Originally posted by bart182:
fans in the past have done this with other shows, and got em renewed...

What other shows has a picket succeded in?

 
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Originally posted by bart182:
I know I could go to the picket, and I can think of maybe 6 others.

We need more people to make this succesful. Maybe we could have several pickets all over the world at the same time.

Semper Fudge!
Spice Weasel

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« Reply #31 on: 01-26-2003 06:32 »

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Originally posted by Guy:
What other shows has a picket succeded in?

If I do remember correctly, There was such an uproar from fans when the network (ABC?) just
plain dropped "Twin Peaks".   They went back and made a 2hr. series finally to tie up some loose ends.
Carbito

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« Reply #32 on: 01-26-2003 10:10 »

 
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Originally posted by Guy:
We need more people to make this succesful. Maybe we could have several pickets all over the world at the same time.

Thats a good idea! But first we need to know were all the Fox studios are.
SQFreak

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« Reply #33 on: 01-26-2003 22:47 »

For the Australians:

Fox Studios Australia Pty Limited
4 Driver Avenue
Moore Park
NSW 1363

For the Americans:

Fox Studios Production Facilities
10201 W. Pico Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90035

or

Fox Studios Baja
CYMSE Brokers
8649 Avenida de la Fuente
San Diego, CA 92154

Fox the Mexicans (are there any?):

[Fox] Studios de la Playa
Km 32.8 Carretera Libre Tijuana - Ensenada
Centro Turistico Popotla
Rosarito, B.C.
Mexico, C.P.
22710

For the Germans:

Twentieth Century Fox Of Germany
Hainer Weg 37-53
60599 Frankfurt
Tel. +69 - 60 90 20
Fax. +69 - 62 77 16
UST-IDNR: DE 114 105 160
Amtsgericht Frankfurt Handelsregister B 6308
Geschäftsführer: Vincent De La Tour

(I don't know German, so I don't know what you need and what you don't need.)

For the British:

Twentieth Century Fox
31/32 Soho Square
London W1D 3AP


Anyone I missed?
iliketowankalot

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« Reply #34 on: 01-26-2003 23:11 »

Nice work freak, now nobodys got an excuse not to chain yerselfs to the nearest FOX building and a few suicide bombers wouldn't be a bad idea either, your deaths will not be in vain, Pinkophant will reward you in the afterlife for your selfless act with hundreds of naked women to service your every need.
SQFreak

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« Reply #35 on: 01-26-2003 23:19 »

'Cept me. I'm in North Carolina, and both FOX Studios are in California.
SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #36 on: 01-27-2003 01:08 »

a 4-day wanking strike? Damn, wanker, that's devotion.

Please edit your sig to 120 pixel height max.
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FilthyCrab

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« Reply #37 on: 01-27-2003 08:25 »

Maybe it's time for another concerted round of mail to Fox, reminding them of how well the show is doing and asking (not demanding) that they consider getting production up and running again.  Remind them of the important demographic that is represented by the group (young folks = disposable income) and that they want Futurama and are willing to stand behind sponsors to get it back.

Failing that, I don't know how you'd mount a real event in person, with so few representatives in the La area, but it's worth a try.
MrMayat

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« Reply #38 on: 01-27-2003 20:33 »

Has any TV shows been saved from a picket/protest before?
Erdrik

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« Reply #39 on: 01-28-2003 00:39 »

Mail letters to Fox, then mail copies of those letters to All the news agencies(in America). That way even if Fox 'quietly shredds' the letters they might get put in the media 'limelight' and send our protest directly through the media. Even if it doesn't immidiatly get a reaction from Fox it'll spread the word quicker than emails, and 'Web pages news posts' and call more to the cause.
Also send copies to one of the Peelers whom lives near the Fox studios/Headquarters whatever. So that they can as Venus suggested dump a big 'ol bag of mail on they're door step. But We should do All of this! becuase if we're going to get Fox to renew its got to be big enough to get they're attention.

Call me Erdrik

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