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Nixorbo

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« Reply #80 on: 01-26-2003 12:25 »

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Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
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« Reply #81 on: 01-26-2003 13:27 »

 
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Lee, it would be better for you to see the episode again.
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« Reply #82 on: 01-26-2003 14:08 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
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Lee, it would be better for you to see the episode again.

Yeah, and, like, this time... ACTUALLY WATCH THE DAMN THING!

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« Reply #83 on: 01-28-2003 06:48 »

I didnt like this episode. it was kindof predictible and no real good jokes...
yeah i know Zaps hair, board converted, etc but it was not the quality we are used to
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« Reply #84 on: 01-28-2003 15:56 »

This episode was a big disappointment for me, and that's why I've taken so long to bother reviewing it. After hearing the description, it had so much potential, but the way it was done just didn't really do it for me. It was like one main plot, nothing much else, and all the jokes were basically just short quick one liners from other characters, and nothing else. And when Amy flew tha Planet express ship into the Nimbus, and after the whole Holo-Dome experience, why was Fry and Leela just talking to Zapp, when Leela hates Zapp, and why were they just standing around when they had a delivary to make? Surely they should have been looking for Amy. And I wasn't keen on the Holo-Dome, it was boring. But the Angry Dome, that was class! And Kifs Homeworld, although good, there just wasn't enough of it. It might have got Kifs juices going, but it didn't get mine. Also when Kif was told he was pregnant, was it just me, or did hie facial expression freak anyboby else out? That's gonna give me nightmares!  wink He just can't do that, surely? And Zapps vouice seemed a bit off, and also the whole epsiodes felt like it was ridding the edge of an egg shell. There were some goos parts, like both of Dr Zoidbergs parts, and even though the crying was a bit out of character, it was hillarious! But out of all the Season 4 production episodes that have curently aired, in my opinion, this is the worst. And also, 'Where Buggalo Roam' was definalely better IMO.
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« Reply #85 on: 02-03-2003 15:13 »

One of the things that might hurt this episode some (not to mee, I loved it to mieces) is the fact, that it's the biggest Trek feast this side of "Where No Fan Has Gone Before". If you don't like Star Trek, then a lot of references and jokes will fall on their nose, and seem pointless.
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« Reply #86 on: 02-09-2003 21:12 »

Well this aired nearly a month ago, when is the next episode screening?
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« Reply #87 on: 02-09-2003 21:50 »

Who knows.  And it should be if, not when, it will air.
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« Reply #88 on: 02-09-2003 22:34 »

You know I really thought this episode was bad, but then I thought about it again and I suppose it was pretty in some parts, but it could've been better.  Although Amy and Kif make a great couple, sure they're made for eachother, they're just not the same together.  You watch the first few episodes with Amy and the first few episodes with Kif and then you watch this and Where the Buggalo Roam and you tell me which episodes make their characters funny.
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« Reply #89 on: 02-10-2003 13:55 »

I'd say this one was also mediocre, but it had it's good moments, but did anyone else think that Amy wasn't the mother during the Professor's test to find out who was the other parent?

  Though there is something to be said for Amy's reaction to the thought that responsibility is coming, and when she hears that it will be 20 years before the babies will emerge and basically be children, she says 'she'll be ready then.'  It's a strange take on women wanting to keep the biological clock ticking til they can find time.

  Zapp seemed slightly underused, for some reason, he came off as almost 'sympathetic' in this.   
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« Reply #90 on: 02-10-2003 15:49 »

Mehish. Best line goes to... Zapp.

"So... the toilet seat is the uncle in all this?"
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« Reply #91 on: 02-10-2003 17:26 »

I liked this episode..wasnt great but It had me laughing.  I liked Zapp in it.
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« Reply #92 on: 03-19-2003 08:41 »

Zapp shone in this episode.  It was kinda predictable about Amy not being the parent of Kif's child, and the birthing ritual was kinda tiresome, but overall I liked it.
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« Reply #93 on: 03-25-2003 18:04 »

Well i just saw it its good,i really liked it and it has funny parts Like: The callendar where it has Motherhood all over and leela being the mom
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« Reply #94 on: 03-30-2003 15:07 »

It was very good and funny! 8/10 Lets hope that the new episode on Fox tonight was good!
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« Reply #95 on: 03-30-2003 16:00 »

Funnily enough this is my favourite of Season 5 so far, except "Route Of All Evil" - and that was technically Season 3. I dunno, maybe I'll watch it again and think otherwise, but I just seemed to like it a lot...  confused
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« Reply #96 on: 10-07-2003 09:45 »

*Bumped for us again*
Hmm many people seemed to like it here... now it is almost a unanimously hated episode, and i believe (now) underrated, as i've said before, definatly some excellent moments, but patches of dullness brought it down...
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« Reply #97 on: 10-07-2003 12:53 »

I was looking forward to this ep, just the title had me laughing for a while.... smile
Overall I thought it was pretty good, a lot of laughs and an interesting storyline kept me going....
I'll wait until the second viewing as always before I dissect it more....

Let me break....let me break you down....for your sake....I will break you down...."[/small]
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« Reply #98 on: 10-08-2003 00:41 »

I thought this episode was terrible. 
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« Reply #99 on: 10-08-2003 00:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Zack Brannigan:
I thought this episode was terrible. 

Go to hell.

Nah, I'm just kidding you, ZB. I thought it was a wonderful episode (in fact, all but around three or four are 'wonderful episodes', but by saying that Devil's Hands is down on that suck list would probably mean sure death from the shippers - AAAAHHH!!).

Lots of funny lines, the return of Kif, some great maternity jokes... I never saw any dull parts in it, just a lot of great humor. I give it an A.
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« Reply #100 on: 10-08-2003 05:55 »
« Last Edit on: 10-08-2003 05:55 »

I also donīt like this episode. I said it many times but now I want to be more specific. Yes, there were definitely some good jokes but everything other... Storyline was plotless and pointless and the script was one of the worst - main characters had just few of flatt lines-in fact they practicaly  didnīt interact with story (it was even worse than in "Where the buggalo roam" ).
And:
Amy stealing ship- silly
Whole holoshed scene- for some bigger trekkies maybe funny but for me unefective
Leela being mother of Kifīs babies- just unneeded 
Kifīs pathetism- Actually not out of character but annoying.
Baby shower-except for the very end it is empty scene.
Kifīs homeworld- not enough
End- predictable and I hate fact that the events were (once again) deleted for the rest of series.
I know you could say "There were good jokes, so itīs good episode" but I think that main problem is that  it isnīt "technicaly" well-done story.
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« Reply #101 on: 10-08-2003 06:22 »

I loved it Zapp at his all time best...
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« Reply #102 on: 10-09-2003 10:28 »

I've watched it 3 times now and it's still great....Heaps of good jokes and Zapp, never a dull moment....

The whole Leela being the Mother thing was sort of predictable but the ending with the 2 eyed babies cleared it up.... wink
Seeing more of Kif's people/planet would have been good but it's good to keep it a mystery also....
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« Reply #103 on: 10-09-2003 10:42 »

I'd watch this episode just for this line.

"Lets try that a little lower and a lot softer"

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« Reply #104 on: 10-11-2003 06:48 »
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Maybe that what I hate most of all is end. Call me a crazy experimentator but do you really think that if Kif and Amy have one normal baby, which can be seen in later episodes instead of lame "They two are still in their dull relationship and will waiting 20 years for children" would kill the series? FOX did it much better...
That what I said would be much better resolution of shippy episode based on pregnancy and maybe it would be also better change than introducing Leelaīs parents.
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« Reply #105 on: 10-11-2003 13:19 »
« Last Edit on: 10-11-2003 13:19 »

 
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Originally posted by Rhodan:
Maybe that what I hate most of all is end. Call me a crazy experimentator but do you really think that if Kif and Amy have one normal baby, which can be seen in later episodes instead of lame "They two are still in their dull relationship and will waiting 20 years for children" would kill the series? 

Yes, yes I do.

Well, not the show, but the characters of Amy and Kif.

Kif would have to leave DOOP and Amy would have to give up her fast-paced life. They have a child to take care of, that's not something you do between fighting spiders on a far-away planet and partyboarding for days. It's a fulltime job (or at least that's what my friends tell me).

And let's face it, how much comedy value would there be in this? How funny is it to watch Kif change diapers or Amy varm a bottle of milk? Besides, Farnsworth have a child, Hermes have a child, anymore children and Futurama would start to look like Friends.

I think they took the only viable ending.

Same thing if Leela and Fry was the subject.
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« Reply #106 on: 12-01-2003 05:21 »

It is long time but Iīll still respond.
First of all, why 20 years? I know, now when show is off it doesnīt matter but it is unnecessary closed as a possible future plot.
About problems with parenting - cīmon, Futurama isnīt so realistic and Amy is rich, she maybe would do it some other way.
Itīs true  there are not many comedy value but baby who is both Leela and Amy would be interesting to characterīs devolepment. Cubert and dwight are pointless and writers doīt use them very much.
Overall  isnīīt posslible to ruin Kif and Amy more, ever change would be only positive.   
       
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« Reply #107 on: 12-01-2003 05:31 »

What if Kif and Amy became viatnamese midgets who lived in a giant talking icecream van? Would THAT be a positive change? No!

Also, they chose 20 years because there would be no chance in hell that it would last that long, thus there'd be no chance of it ever coming up again. This episode was designed purely to focus on Amy and Kif's relationship rather than the babies.
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« Reply #108 on: 12-01-2003 06:17 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2003 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Beamer:
Also, they chose 20 years because there would be no chance in hell that it would last that long, thus there'd be no chance of it ever coming up again. This episode was designed purely to focus on Amy and Kif's relationship rather than the babies.

I know that. Thatīs what I hate!
 Good writer  should leave some open doors, when it is such oppurtuinity for character devolepment.     
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« Reply #109 on: 12-03-2003 10:12 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2003 10:12 »

    This episode just had too many problems and from seeing the deleted scenes and the commentary, I believe that one of the problems was time. I personally thought the idea of Kif getting knocked up a notch had potential but for Bill Odenkirk's idea for this episode to work, it would've had to have been like an hour long. In cramming it into 21 minutes, the episode ended up feeling rushed, incoherent and forced.

     In fact, there were only five somewhat minor elements to this episode that I genuinely thought worked really well:
  • The beautiful 3D shots of the Nimbus, especially the zooming out from the moon in the side of the ship and the zooming in to Kif's bedroom window.
  • Kif trying to pluck the moon out of the sky, falling into the water and getting wanged on the head with the moon.
  • Leela and Amy's scene in the bar (for a plot that was supposed to have an emotional element to it, this was the only part that felt genuine).
  • Kif struggling to move the coffee jug - "Apparently, Amy hasn't been working out lately."  laff
  • Kif having to look deep into Bender's eyes due to his absent smizmarr. "What're YOU looking at?"  cool
Sadly, the rest of the episode just felt disjointed. Bender's frequent one-liners were very hit and miss, Zoidberg sucked (the homeless gag was practically a 'going through the motions' addition to the story and the baby crying...*shudder*), all of Billy's characters were slightly off (particularly Zapp) and parts like Leela's role, returning to Kif's planet and the concept of the birth itself were underdeveloped whilst the Holoshed and the baby shower were overdeveloped considering how hit and miss there were.

 Personally, whilst I still believe that Kif getting pregnant could've been a good story, this wasn't it. I would've liked to have seen Zapp as the mother: sure it's not a pleasant image but the episode would've had so much more impact.   wink
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« Reply #110 on: 12-03-2003 13:18 »

i love'd this episode its very funny and the plots intrsting, and leela being the mother is worth it even just for zapps reaction
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« Reply #111 on: 12-03-2003 13:20 »

i would have liked to have seen Fry react to Leela's motherhood. Or better yet, i'd have liked to have seen Leela react.
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« Reply #112 on: 12-03-2003 17:01 »
« Last Edit on: 12-03-2003 17:01 »

Episode is underrated imo.

Not the funniest, but funny enough for me!   big grin Zapp's lines were as usual awesome "so what, the toilet's, like, the uncle?"

Just I don't like how they're techinically Leela's babies too much....odd, but without it, I spose the ep wouldnt exist...and I found it odd how Leela was sort of...kinda going out of her way for Kif, as if she had a crush on him, i.e."I'll come with you. A gal has to protect her dna" (or simular). To me, it seemed a little off from her....

Good ep, B-
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« Reply #113 on: 12-03-2003 17:34 »

Well bear in mind that had Amy not ran off like she did Leela probably wouldn't have taken so much of an interest. She probably wanted to assist Kif out of pity.
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« Reply #114 on: 12-03-2003 17:34 »

It's not the worst Futurama episode (Hello, "The Cryonic Woman" ), but it's average at best. I was very surprised at the lack of Fry lines. He said like 5 lines. Upon first viewing, I didn't really like because I though it was missing something. But when I saw it again, I though it was a little better than the first time. The gags that were present were hit and miss. Though mostly hit, they were only giggles and not belly laughs. The one line that cracked me up was Bender's "I'm back baby!", Classic. Though not the worst, it was not the best.

1st viewing: C
2nd viewing: C+
Venus

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« Reply #115 on: 12-03-2003 17:41 »

I assumed Leela was more interested in protecting the babies rather then having a crush on kiff. They are her biological offspring so even though Kif had made it clear he considered Amy to be the mother, Leela's still not going to be able to help having some sort of attachment for her children. That was a subject i was hoping to be brought up in the ep and was dissapointed when it didn't. For someone so desperate for family (she didn't have her parents back yet) there's no way she could be completely indifferent.
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« Reply #116 on: 11-18-2004 15:07 »

What are deleted scenes of this one, anyway? Iīve heard just about some of them.
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« Reply #117 on: 11-18-2004 15:50 »

Wow, a bump after almost a year. Riveting.
Anyway, one deleted scene I think should've stayed in and could have replaced... almost anything, was Fry and Bender playing hangman at the beginning. Bender's secret word is in binary, so Fry only has to guess '1' to fill in the rest of the word.
Rhodan

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« Reply #118 on: 11-19-2004 03:50 »

Thank you , and what about rest? iīm inteested in both animated and never done ones.
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« Reply #119 on: 11-11-2013 18:27 »

Classic. Loved it,

9/10
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