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McGrady

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« Reply #40 on: 11-17-2002 23:39 »

Bender and Fry are practicing magic in their appartment.  Fry notices in the paper they were using for a trick there is a headline reading "intact 20th century pizzaria".  They go there, Fry finds his old dog fossilized.  *cutscene to the past when he found his dog* They take it back to PE building, fry finds out he can clone it using the same tech as cubert was cloned as -- and the dog retains its memories somehow.  Bender gets jealous when fry is getting stuff for his soon to be cloned dog instead of him.  leela and amy wrestle in revealing clothing; bender gets a robo dog that is super annoying and tries to get fry to want it/jealous.  After that the crew goes down into the basement for extra energy since it is near lava.  Bender tries to get fry to perform with him some more, but fry gets angry and says no.  Bender then throws the dog into the lava before they can clone it.  fry tries to jump in the lava but is restrained; bender feels bad and jumps in instead to rescue it (the dog is covered with some dolsomite or something, and bender is 40% dolsomite).  Leela tries to rip her swimsuit off to go jump into the lava to save bender, but unfortunately bender comes up just at that time.  They get some dna from the dog, and they find out that the dog was actually 15 years old, and fry only had the dog for its first 3.  Fry decides not to clone the dog, since it would be unfair to bring it back when it lived most of its life without Fry; he figured it had forgotten him by then.  Then the sad part: it goes back in time to after fry vanished, and the dog sat on the sidewalk, refusing to move, waiting for him to come back, for 12 or so years.  Everything ages; mr. pannucci gets old and shuts down the pizza store.  The last we see of the dog is it lying its head down, as a very old and tired dog.  There are a bunch of flashbacks throughout as the dog looks for fry and finally manages to find fry but is unable to rescue him.
bankrupt

Urban Legend
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« Reply #41 on: 11-17-2002 23:41 »

 
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Originally posted by Jrrr Poppler:
Here in Ontario, it was cancelled because of Football. This is the first time I've EVER missed an episode when it first aired. I won't be able to watch it anytime soon (if ever) on Fox, and I don't have Cartoon Network for when it is picked up there, so is there a webside I can go to to download it? I'm sure I'm not the only one in this situation. Thanks.

I too missed the episode because of football.  Since I didn't see this ep., all I have to add is: 

NO DOWNLOAD QUESTIONS ALLOWED!

This post brought to you by a guy who's not a moderator, so I can't do anything to your post.   smile

evan

Urban Legend
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« Reply #42 on: 11-17-2002 23:44 »

Oh, I forgot. The material Seymour is encased in is called "DOLEMITE", which is actually the name of a popular 70s blaxplotation movie. Along the lines of "Shaft", if you will. That'll explain a lot of the Professor's lines.

Bender: "Try this, kids at home!
Warning: do not try this at home
Jrrr Poppler

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« Reply #43 on: 11-17-2002 23:45 »
« Last Edit on: 11-17-2002 23:45 »

[Above cut out due to the fact I didn't realize I wasn't meant to post downloading questions/directions - sorry!]

I'm just mad I didn't get to watch it live to boost the ratings. Futurama deserves so much better...

And I found the episode great, very sad too, a lot like Luck of the Fryrish. I really wanted to see Seymour come back.

And does anyone think in a later episode they'll explain the whole shadow thing? I mean there's been 3 episodes with that scene now and in each one theres a different combination of shadows!
Erdrik

Professor
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« Reply #44 on: 11-17-2002 23:59 »

Leela and Amy getting physical Lol!  laff,
That ending was indeed tragic...   cry
But are yous blind?! Did you not see Nibblers 3rd eye popping out of the trash can?! Shadows my but! They actualy showed Nibbler(or a nibblonian)!

Call me Erdrik

Boycott Fox!! Down with the Evil OverLords!!
Bendo

Starship Captain
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« Reply #45 on: 11-18-2002 00:04 »

The plot thickens! Not only are we now reassured that Nibbler was at the cryogenics lab when Fry was 'fell' into the tube but in this replaying we see another shadowy figure! Who could it be? As it stands the episode the Why of Fry is really starting to take on additional significance here. I can't wait for that episode now!

A very strange type of episode and really touching to say the least. I liked all the flashbacks to 1999 and seeing Fry and his families reaction to his disappearance. Seymour was an added bonus and people who have ever had pets could certainly relate to what happened here. We recently lost a pet to old age and it was so sad to think of them all alone. This episode brought back some of those feelings.

I didn't particularly like the Bender as the magician angle but who could resist the ladies of GLOW - Leela and Amy! The creators are really pouring it on heavy as they promised they would. With this episode the Swimsuit Leela figure from MAC now has a purpose!  smile  Some really good jokes sprinklered through the entire episode like some kind of fever from to much boogy. :lol  I can't say it was the funniest episode but just for the whoa factor it will rank right up there with the best of them. When the series finally ends we will have Space Pilot 3000, the Day the Earth Stood Stupid, Jurrasic Bark and the Why of Fry to all watch in succession for a brief history of Futurama. Looking over the episode I have a theory of who it is in the second shadow but I will keep it to myself for now.  smile But I agree with some of the assesments made on this board already.

Another great episode to start the season off with. Probably not the creme de la creme but strong nonetheless and leaves the best for later I am sure. Bring on the Why of Fry!
RM

Erdrik

Professor
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« Reply #46 on: 11-18-2002 00:15 »
« Last Edit on: 11-18-2002 00:15 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
and suddenly it's all so clear! Thanks to the magical VelourFog! Everyone give her a hand, and a kitten! Come on she deserves it! Come ON! i said dooooooo it!

Gah! I give in!

*gives a stray kitten to VelourFog*
*Grabs a cleaver chops off hand and also gives it to VelourFog*

owwie... I really could used that hand...
[-mArc-]

Administrator
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #47 on: 11-18-2002 00:18 »
« Last Edit on: 11-18-2002 00:18 »

I liked this episode quite some, but I will first tell about the bad parts:

Leela/Amy wrestling looked a bit "pasted" in. Seemed as if they were just added for eye candy.

They'll have a real hard time explaining why the "future Fry" shadow isn't in the pilot, because ... what we saw yesterday is meant to show the exact same moments. "changed the past" is just too paradox.

Fry was acting "out of character" to me when he answered the Louvre thing.

Would've been great if the dog was shown for more than a split second with closed eyes.

Does anyone else remember Fry having a dog called "champ"? I forgot where I got that from though...

On the good side:

Kaplan did a great job with the main plot and advancing the overall series plot. Also, like how he keeps getting sadness and depression into a fun show.

Also: Review it on CGEF if you can. In return you get the capsule from there.


One question, who did the "not Seymour Asses" voice?


Rate: full points
Bendo

Starship Captain
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« Reply #48 on: 11-18-2002 00:40 »

 
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They'll have a real hard time explaining why the "future Fry" shadow isn't in the pilot, because ... what we saw yesterday is meant to show the exact same moments. "changed the past" is just too paradox.
I believe that the events in Roswell That Ends Well would change history just enough that the images seen in Jurassic Bark would be plausible. Just the fact that they were there would have to mean something.  smile
RM
blahness

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« Reply #49 on: 11-18-2002 00:42 »

very powerful episode puts it right in my top 3 favorites... im still in awe that a cartoon could bring such emotions up... hopefully this one will be in emmy contention next year
blahness

Bending Unit
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« Reply #50 on: 11-18-2002 00:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Bendo:
 
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They'll have a real hard time explaining why the "future Fry" shadow isn't in the pilot, because ... what we saw yesterday is meant to show the exact same moments. "changed the past" is just too paradox.
I believe that the events in Roswell That Ends Well would change history just enough that the images seen in Jurassic Bark would be plausible. Just the fact that they were there would have to mean something.   smile
RM

and dont forget that we still do not know what happens in the why of fry yet... they could go back in time yet again just think of it like the movie back to the future 2 when marty sees him self in 1955
[-mArc-]

Administrator
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #51 on: 11-18-2002 00:58 »

 
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Originally posted by Bendo:
 I believe that the events in Roswell That Ends Well would change history just enough that the images seen in Jurassic Bark would be plausible. Just the fact that they were there would have to mean something.   smile
RM

That time travel into the past was paradox already  wink

If it did change things, we should have seen the already changed (from that point of view) future in Space Pilot 3k. Otherwise you get something like two separate strings of events in the past. The problem of time travelling into the past of course was partly why the roswell one was fun (killing ones ancestors before one is born). I think we'll just have to live with some paradoxons.
evan

Urban Legend
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« Reply #52 on: 11-18-2002 01:06 »

You really want to know the answer to how it happened?

It was him:


"Oh, sure. Blame the wizards!"

Bender: "Try this, kids at home!
Warning: do not try this at home
wadew1

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« Reply #53 on: 11-18-2002 01:31 »
« Last Edit on: 11-18-2002 01:31 »

I liked most of the episode, but i thought the ending was too sad/kind of cruel in a way.
Venus

Urban Legend
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« Reply #54 on: 11-18-2002 02:22 »

champ was mentioned in that one comic where Leela lost Nibbler
BlackCoke

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #55 on: 11-18-2002 05:04 »


In case you did'nt notice.
Seymour

Crustacean
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« Reply #56 on: 11-18-2002 08:46 »

OMG I loved this episode so much. It was a real tear-jerker at the end. I wonder if we'll know why Nibbler and future Fry freeze past Fry. This is definately one of my top faves. This episode had the same feeling as the episode where we see where Leela is from.

Oh, and does anyone know the song at the end of the episode?
SpongeMonkey

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« Reply #57 on: 11-18-2002 08:48 »

So, have there been other wierd hidden Nibbler sighting before?
I was pretty surprised to see that eye stalk popping out of the trash.
It almost feels like a Douglas Adams universe where things and events are connected in far out and odd ways. I'm excited to see where this goes...

Oh - and I agree that this was a great episode. It was sad at the end and gave you a similar feeling as 'The Luck of the Fryish'.
Very nice indeed.
Sarge

Professor
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« Reply #58 on: 11-18-2002 09:24 »

 
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Originally posted by VelourFog:
if his dog was so great why haven't we heard about it before now?
...Stupid Cubert, does he just live in that cloning room? why didn't they throw him in the lava?
laff
Sarge

Professor
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« Reply #59 on: 11-18-2002 09:27 »
« Last Edit on: 11-18-2002 09:27 »

   
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Originally posted by Venus:
 are you serious? that was actually part of the ep?
No. I am lying. Everything I say is a lie.    laff
Yeah, that was part of the script, along with other stuff that got cut out. Every script has throw-away gags.
In The Why Of Fry a descriptive line in the script reads something like "We see another place in the universe that is beyond our normal vision."   laff You can imagine the designers having a blast over that one.

dubdub

Crustacean
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« Reply #60 on: 11-18-2002 10:37 »

kinda like the edge of the edge of the universe where everyone wears sombreroes?
AndyF

Poppler
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« Reply #61 on: 11-18-2002 11:23 »

An excellent episode.  Though I would have really prefered a less sad ending;  12 years of waiting deserved better. 

Andy
MuscaDomestica

Professor
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« Reply #62 on: 11-18-2002 11:37 »

Good episode... And all of you people who don't understand what anime fans mean by fanservice... check out this episode.  wink
lfv
Bending Unit
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« Reply #63 on: 11-18-2002 11:40 »

I actually found it nice that a silly show like Futurama can have heart.
FLOORMAN
Poppler
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« Reply #64 on: 11-18-2002 11:47 »

Yes the ending was VERY sad and made sader by the fact it was based on the true story of Hachiko the Tokyo train dog. Here is the web link.
 http://www.fabuloustravel.com/globe/hachiko/hachiko.html
Damitol

Bending Unit
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« Reply #65 on: 11-18-2002 11:48 »
« Last Edit on: 11-18-2002 11:48 »

I've got at least two weeks of football coming up in Dallas, TX - so thanks to Groening and Co. for giving me two great episodes to tide me over for a while.

Jurassic Bark, like "Crimes of the Hot" got a strong 4.5 out of 5 on my meter.  The twelve years in a minute at the end was too sad (but very well done) so I deducted half a point, just because I can.  OK, OK - 4.7.

Lots of great character moments and really funny lines.  Bender's dog was great and the trail that led Seymore to frozen Fry was hilarious.  Virtually every line out of Farnsworth this week was highly quotable.

How can Fox executives watch an episode like this and not understand that a decent time slot and a little promotion could have made Futurama a Simpsons scale hit?
aslate

Space Pope
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« Reply #66 on: 11-18-2002 12:21 »

 
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Originally posted by BlackCoke:

In case you did'nt notice.

In case no-one noticed, i did see that aswell.
Also, i'm surprised at the lack of talk over the extra shadow on the episode. It was mad on #futuramaspoilers when the episode aired.

Bendo

Starship Captain
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« Reply #67 on: 11-18-2002 12:36 »
« Last Edit on: 11-18-2002 12:36 »

I was wondering what people thought of the ending? On other boards there are some very hurt feelings over why Futurama would do something like this. Something that is so sad in an otherwise funny show. How do the rest of you feel about it?
Even though I agree it was sad and could relate to it a great deal I still thought it was very effective and don't hold any ill feelings against anybody for doing it. My wife was really affected by it and flat out said she didn't like it at all.
RM
And one other thing - hey Sarge, any chance we will get those missing scenes in a future DVD? Were they ever animated in any form?
PainoMan

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #68 on: 11-18-2002 13:29 »

I dunno about this one.  It was the first Futurama episode that just didn't seem finished to me, sort of just slapped together in a rush to get it out the door.

The Hachiko ending was surely meant to be emotional, but it just didn't quite pull it off for me.  Maybe it cut off a bit too soon.  Seemed like something was missing.

I liked it though.  Of course, I like them all!!

FishyJoe

Honorary German
Urban Legend
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« Reply #69 on: 11-18-2002 14:19 »

Too rehashey of Luck of the Fryrish, but I still thought it was a really good episode. Poor dog. Sniff...he's walking on sunshine with angels now.

Zoidberg as Bender's assistant, and Seymore looking for Fry were great. Unfortunately I didn't tape the episode, but I look forward to seeing it again at some point.
rkbentley

Crustacean
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« Reply #70 on: 11-18-2002 14:35 »

I liked the episode, heck any Futurama Episode is a good news, had to rest the eyes after playing Xbox Live....wrestling Amy and Leela...and just how many production drawings did we have to go through to make those scenes compliant for national tv?  wink Two Futurama Eps back to back, egads we're back on schedule? Yay!
MuscaDomestica

Professor
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« Reply #71 on: 11-18-2002 14:39 »

 
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...wrestling Amy and Leela...and just how many production drawings did we have to go through to make those scenes compliant for national tv?

I want to know too, also want to know where I would get the pics...

Its Fox, so there might not be that many rejected shots.
rkbentley

Crustacean
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« Reply #72 on: 11-18-2002 14:59 »

I'm surprised no one has posted at least one of those pics to the quote the frame grab....course it'd probably crash the site.  wink
Sarge

Professor
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« Reply #73 on: 11-18-2002 15:08 »

 
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Originally posted by Bendo:
hey Sarge, any chance we will get those missing scenes in a future DVD? Were they ever animated in any form?
It's not up to me, so I doubt it.
I don't know if they were animated or not.
From reading the script, I don't think they were trying to be sexy, just concerned & helpful. But the skimpy suits would've implied the sexiness. The gag was that Fry didn't see the opportunity he could've had.

McGrady

Bending Unit
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« Reply #74 on: 11-18-2002 15:28 »

 
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Originally posted by Sarge:
   
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Originally posted by Venus:
 are you serious? that was actually part of the ep?
No. I am lying. Everything I say is a lie.

But that means you are telling a lie about telling a lie, or being truthful about always telling lies.  Hmm, we have a conundrum.
futurefreak

salutatory committee member
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #75 on: 11-18-2002 15:43 »

the episode ending was so sad! the poor dog!  frown anyways yeah it got kinda gross there with the whole leela/amy thing in th mniddle but im sure paul andkryten enjoyed it... *shifty eyes* hi - from aclosetfan  smile

note: this was typed inb the school library hehe
futufan

Bending Unit
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« Reply #76 on: 11-18-2002 16:34 »

The agony ... the end of this episode just crushed me (but then I'm a total sap when it comes to things like that). Poor Seymour. I kind of agree with some of the comments about the overall flow of the episode seeming a bit patched together and rough. Still a great episode, though.
AndyF

Poppler
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« Reply #77 on: 11-18-2002 16:36 »

The ending still bothers me;  it would have been just a strong an episode with a happier ending. 

Though fictional, its sadder than the Tokyo dog story, because Fry choose not to clone the dog.  Too much irony for my taste.

Andy
Shadowstar

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #78 on: 11-18-2002 17:03 »

Why has nobody mentioned RoboPuppy yet? "RoboPuppy commencing two hour yipping session. RoboPuppy mistreatment alert!" That was one of the funniest things in the ep. Also funny: Bender's magic, Fry's native dance, "Fry's dog!", Professor trying to get attention and so on. I really liked this episode, despite it kind of obstructing with the past and the incredibly sad ending.   cry Where was I? Oh yeah, RoboPuppy rules!
Rate: 4.5/5

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ZombieJesus

Lost Belgian
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« Reply #79 on: 11-18-2002 17:27 »
« Last Edit on: 11-18-2002 17:27 »

   
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Originally posted by Just Chris:
[...]
And Aslate, adding your Nibbler conspiracy:


I noticed that too. In fact,

The episode is one of the best ones I 've seen so far. It made me laugh, but boy what a sad ending.    frown

It had funny moments, revealing moments    flirt    wink, and the really sad story about Seymour. I think it was really well balanced.

Can anyone tell me exactly what Bender says to Zoidberg when he beats him up? I didn't understand.

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