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DrThunder88

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« Reply #120 on: 11-24-2002 18:33 »
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This was another one of those episodes about which I have mixed feelings.  Just before the very last sequence (the part with the song in the background) I thought it was going to be a sad but uplifting episode like "Luck of the Fryish," where Fry learns that the past he left behind wasn't as bad as he thought.  Instead, it seems, they added that "If It Takes a Million Summers..." scene to turn it into a sad/sad ending where Fry thinks Seymour's life went on without him, but it was actually twelve years of psychological torture for the poor dog.  There were some pretty good parts of the episode.  I liked Robo-Puppy's knack for narrating his every action in a cold, robotic way ("Robo-Puppy commencing licking...Licking in progress...Licking complete." ).  Fry's protest was hilarious, particularly his 'native dance' and Leela's acertation that if he kept boogieing, he'd wind up with 'some sort of fever'.  Mr. Panucci was more disgusting than usual, which could be explained by his jump in screen time.  Needless to say, I ceased eating pizza for a while, then got back into it the next day.  Although I'm pretty sure I know the real reason why Amy and Leela were sparring in skin-tight outfits, I feel that it was somewhat lacking.  Had they been practicing hand-to-hand combat in baby oil...that might have made a bigger impact, but what do I know.  The Nibbler-eye, thing was pretty blatant and could have been omitted without any great loss.  All in all, I'd have to give this episode a score of 8.7 out a possible twelve, if the writers hadn't tacked on the final sequence, the score would probably be closer to 10.5.

By the way, when the Clone-O-Mat displayed Seymour's age, I nearly cried.  My dog, Clark, recently passed away at the age of fifteen.
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« Reply #121 on: 11-25-2002 08:48 »

Nibbler was in the trash can! i think it's true that Nibbler wants Fry to be frozen, and the professor's What-if-mechine really can tell what whould happend!
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« Reply #122 on: 11-25-2002 09:20 »
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This episode was rated good by me because the secondary characters had a field day strutting their stuff.(Mr Pannuci, Fry's Dad) Also, the Prof had some great punchlines and Bender was unusually sober.
However, the ending didn't quite "emote" me.
And yes, Leela looked titalating in the wresslin' gettup.   :D

Finally, I welcome fiend-o-rama to PEEL. Great meeting a fellow South East Asian. BTW, is TV3 or Astro showing reruns of Futurama?
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« Reply #123 on: 11-25-2002 21:30 »

I just saw it. It was great. Great parts include:
protest
disgusting pizza place
Robo puppy
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« Reply #124 on: 11-26-2002 02:17 »

it's showing on Astro, not sure if they are screening it o tv3.

it's sad to see Seymour waiting for Fry to return till hhis final breath. Loyalty i say.
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« Reply #125 on: 11-26-2002 03:34 »

 
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Originally posted by fiend-o-rama:
it's showing on Astro, not sure if they are screening it o tv3.
If only I could scramble my dish to receive that channel..
:Fiddles with dish antenna:
:Bzztt:
[Homer]Maybe I'll try the red wire[/Homer]
:Bzztt:
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« Reply #126 on: 11-26-2002 03:39 »
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u dont have to if u got streamyx. :flirt:
oh my yes.... 
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« Reply #127 on: 11-27-2002 12:16 »

I thoguth the epidoe was great sort of reminisent of Luck of the Fryish which is not a bad thing  :) roll on more episodes.
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« Reply #128 on: 11-27-2002 14:21 »

 
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it's sad to see Seymour waiting for Fry to return till hhis final breath. Loyalty i say.

A thought occurs...didn't Seymour die standing up, not in the prone position the episode seemed to indicate?
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« Reply #129 on: 11-29-2002 11:12 »
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It was a great episode. It was very sad,    :cry: and very funny.    :laff: Great combination.

And I really liked that Robopuppy    :laff:


poor Seymore
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« Reply #130 on: 11-30-2002 08:07 »

I have to agree with many people here and say it's very funny and very sad. It had quite a few moments which made me chuckle, which I don't always do while watching Futurama. Bender was funny again, despite his attempted cloning sabotage, I think he wasn't portrayed as a heartless, rude, obnoxious character. He was funny in a non-offensive way  :).

The episode was also really sad. The scenes with Seymour upset were very, errr, heart-wretching (?), especially the final scene. Poor dog. Also, when Fry was about to leave for his last delivery, it was sad as you knew he'd mnever come back. Dog's are so cool.

About that Nibbler thing, the reason for it better not be lame now after all this mystery and build-up. If aslate's and other's theory on page 1 is correct, I would feel slightly let down.

Anyway, good episode, Id give it:
9/10
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« Reply #131 on: 11-30-2002 17:26 »

good ep plus you can match it up with the luck of the fryrish. I actually cried when the Seymour was sitting outside panuccies pizza for the rest of his life.
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« Reply #132 on: 12-01-2002 22:02 »

::Cries like Kif, like a woman::

Saddest ending ever.  I SAID EVER!  Still not as good as Luck of the Fryrish, though.
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« Reply #133 on: 12-01-2002 22:25 »

Finally some people who appreciate the ending. I thought it was heartwrenchingly awesome.
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« Reply #134 on: 12-03-2002 07:47 »

I thought it was a bit too sad.  I had to go hug my dog afterwards.
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« Reply #135 on: 12-03-2002 07:51 »

 
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Finally some people who appreciate the ending. I thought it was heartwrenchingly awesome.

I thought the ending was great, even if it was suicidally sad. I know people who have lost dogs ect. might be saddened more then the rest of us, but i can't understand others who loved the episode, but then say it was crap because it was too sad.
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« Reply #136 on: 12-03-2002 08:37 »

 
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Leela/Amy wrestling looked a bit "pasted" in. Seemed as if they were just added for eye candy.
Seems, it’s not only me who noticed that.  :D Yes, I agree, their lines are even almost not tied with others.
 
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Does anyone else remember Fry having a dog called "champ"? I forgot where I got that from though...
When you’ve mentioned it… yes, sounds familiar but I can’t recall the ep. When Fry said about “champ” either.

Bad thing - I don’t like lyrical endings. But it was quite good episode not in first 10th of my ratings but still.
And of course, I like Leela’s wrestling garb most.
 
Someone, tell me please where it came from? TheVoices drew a wallpaper with the same suit long ago… and what are that MAC figures, some here are talking about?

And since Teral already ordered Leela's toboggan… I Demand my own wrestling-with-Leela kit for a New Year present! I demand my wrestling-with-Leela kit!
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« Reply #137 on: 12-03-2002 10:27 »

 
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Someone, tell me please where it came from? TheVoices drew a wallpaper with the same suit long ago… and what are that MAC figures, some here are talking about?

Thsi lovely action figure:


Read more on CGEF's merchandise page.
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« Reply #138 on: 12-03-2002 10:39 »

Eww, Leela shaves . . . down there . . .

Anyway,  I think the reason I've had trouble figuring out this episode is because it was so radically different from any other episode of Futurama.  It just toyed with your emotions so much throughout, and I'd call the ending cruel.  I mean, it took you through every emotion, happiness, sadness, horror at Bender throwing Seymour in the lava, elation at getting them both back, etc.  It was more like a Shakespearean tradgedy than anything else.
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« Reply #139 on: 12-03-2002 12:19 »
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Teral
Thanks a lot! Good stuff, unfortunately I'm twice older than to play it...

   
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Eww, Leela shaves . . . down there . . .
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Anyway, I think the reason I've had trouble figuring out this episode is because it was so radically different from any other episode of Futurama.

Yes it touches deeply. It begins like any other episode. But then, by some slight unseen move, it all changes. When Bender throws Fry's pet in the lava thinking that there's no more reason preventing him and Fry from being best friends. That really wounds me. The end is especially sorrowful. But after the Fry- Bender -dog--Cloning scene I was ready to everything.
Strange, that scene with dog, waiting with no chance to see its pal again, reminds me of our situation. Fans are still waiting for new seasons of Futurama, for how long should they be?

Also, this episode doesn’t seem to be a story. I mean, there’s a Big idea of the whole episode. Fry and his best friend. All other stuff is just to fill 21 minutes of it. Seems so. Scenes with Bender The Magnificent, Leela and Amy wrestling are not linked with the main line. Yes, other episodes also have different scenes with gags, which are slightly linked with the main plot. But let’s look at “My three Suns”, the whole episode is like a well-made story. Nothing excessive. Can we say the same about “Jurassic bark”? –no.
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« Reply #140 on: 12-03-2002 14:53 »

What if they just wanted to illustrate the relations between Fry and Bender; how deep they are and how they develop over time? I'd say they have accomplished that quite nicely.

Sure, well laid out plot lines are what most cartoons use, but (I'd like to think)Futurama isn't just your average cartoon. Besides, do you really need a solid story for everything? That would be like saying "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" sucked because it had no story.
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« Reply #141 on: 12-04-2002 00:10 »

Now that they have Leela-in-wrestling-garb, what's next? Fry and Zoidberg in leotard. Man, those will sell like crazy.  :laff:
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« Reply #142 on: 12-04-2002 00:23 »

I said that to myself after watching this episode, that our seeing Seymour's wasted life was a cruel thing to tack on at the end. Powerful, yes, but still cruel. I would have enjoyed the episode more if they HAD cloned Seymour after showing us his aging.

I would have been happier if the professor had said "I can't clone him as a young dog with an old dog's memories, you'll have to take an old dog body if you want him to know who you are", and then fry had a final couple of weeks with Seymour. It would have been bittersweet when Seymour died, that way, instead of just bitter.
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« Reply #143 on: 12-04-2002 00:40 »

^ I agree. I was a bit sad before I watched this episode and I kinda expected it to cheer me up. Nope! It would even have been better if the dog had been cloned and then died all happy in fry's arms or something. Poor little doggy.
The rest of the episode was great, though.
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« Reply #144 on: 12-04-2002 02:48 »

I just re-watched Jurassic Bark.  It is the most tragic and sentimental episode so far.  I enjoyed seeing Fry's family again.  I also enjoyed Robo-Puppy. I find it interesting that everyone feels so much for poor Seymour and yet noone mentions poor Robo-Puppy's abuse at the hands of a fed up Bender.  I laughed at the part where Bender rescues Seymours's fossil, climbs out of the lava pit and his eyes melt.  Bender was ignored by Fry throughout much of the episode, when he tossed Seymour in the lava, he grabs Fry and says "Now, I'm all you got".  Leela mopping the floor with Amy was sweet as well, loved the "Piledriver".  All in all a good, solid episode. 7.5 outta 10
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« Reply #145 on: 12-04-2002 14:04 »

I think this episode was one of the best aired yet. It had feelings, jokes and pointed out a "greater" storyline with Fry and Nibbler in the past. (it is Fry's shadow and if someone says something different I'll just cover my ears and go: lalalalalalala)

PS: Sure the ending was sad but in the real world there too are no happy endings all the time.

8.5 points out of 10
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« Reply #146 on: 12-04-2002 21:05 »

There's no martians or sentient robots in the real world either.
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« Reply #147 on: 12-05-2002 16:11 »

Oh yeah? That tiny green freak guy sitting next to me tells a diffenrent story.  ;)
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« Reply #148 on: 12-06-2002 16:26 »

Graet episode, very emotional, but in my opinion it's not as emotional as 'Fryrish'. A few wacky moments, but overall very good, and it was nice to see Cubert again too.
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« Reply #149 on: 03-09-2003 18:28 »

I've got no complaints about the episode.  I agree with Otis about it being not quite as emotional as "Luck of the Fryrish"  but the ending was definitely a shocker.

As for Leela, the wrestling scene didn't seem to be in the epsiode for any particular reason, but once again, I've no complaints.  :love:   :love:   :love:
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« Reply #150 on: 03-09-2003 20:15 »

 
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Graet episode, very emotional, but in my opinion it's not as emotional as 'Fryrish'. A few wacky moments, but overall very good, and it was nice to see Cubert again too.

I think ep wasnt so emotional as 'Leela's homeworld' and 'godfellas', this 2 eps was much better.
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« Reply #151 on: 03-09-2003 20:19 »

Was good to see more stuff from Episode One in there, makes me look forward to finding out why Nibbler was in the Cryogenic Room.

I enjoyed it.
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« Reply #152 on: 03-10-2003 10:28 »

Did anyone notice Fry's shadow there too?  ;)

Yeah, the episode was good. Robo-puppy was great!  :D
Yet it did seem a bit too tragically sad  :hmpf:
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« Reply #153 on: 03-10-2003 11:36 »

 
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Leela kicking Amy's butt was funny as well as provocative. You just know Leela is loving it, with the animosity between her and Amy.


Making it even funnier is the fact that Amy doesn't seem to have a clue that Leela is jealous of her, and considers her to be her best friend! Aw, she just keeps getting cuter and cuter... especially in that outfit  :D

A good episode, and a sad one too - it didn't have the impact of 'Luck Of The Fryrish' for me, but maybe that's because I've never had a dog (or any other pet, for that matter).

Interesting to see the lighter side of Mr Panucci - he actually comes across as quite fond of Fry, as opposed to other episodes where he just yells at him.

One thing, though - did Seymour actually lie down and go to 'sleep' at the end or not? I just have a funny feeling that Sky snipped a couple of seconds to protect the feelings of British animal-lovers...
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« Reply #154 on: 03-11-2003 17:31 »
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Hey, did anyone ever see my post? It was apparently lost in a hazy sea of 'CGI limit reached!' error messages.

And tragically it was the best post ever written, a beacon of enlightenment, a poignant, soul-stirring yet still ticklingly amusing affair, one that would have taken all who read it a state of soothing eternal nirvana with a live-action version of the Futurama character of their choice. Tears would have flowed, differences been forgotten, world peace achieved.

Oh well, you'll have to make do with this piece of crap instead.   :D Still, when I update ANSTAMAW you'll have a humdinger of a picture for Amy's wrestling outfit! Yee-haw!

EDIT: Oh, *now* it appears! Damn you, Al Gore and all your inventions!
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« Reply #155 on: 03-11-2003 17:44 »

 
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 Making it even funnier is the fact that Amy doesn't seem to have a clue that Leela is jealous of her, and considers her to be her best friend! Aw, she just keeps getting cuter and cuter... especially in that outfit   :D

Can't wait to see it on ANSTATMAW.  ;)
 
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One thing, though - did Seymour actually lie down and go to 'sleep' at the end or not? I just have a funny feeling that Sky snipped a couple of seconds to protect the feelings of British animal-lovers...

In the final moments of the episode, Seymour puts his head down, close his eyes and make a small "umph noise", as if air esacpes. So, yes it looks like he became an ex-dog.
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« Reply #156 on: 03-12-2003 02:47 »

The episode is clever and were Nibbler is seen as shadows and in the bin I believe they will use in a Future episode (maybe Why of Fry).
 The upseting thing, it had a sad ending.
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« Reply #157 on: 03-15-2003 09:16 »

Best Jurassic Bark quotes:

Yancy (Fry's dad) What's that Seymour, you walking on Sunshine?

Professor Fernworth: Professor, Lava, Hot!
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« Reply #158 on: 03-17-2003 00:50 »

I just watched this episode and thought it was pretty brilliant, if not a bit rushed.  For the first time, I felt like it's one of those episodes that should've had two parts to it.

About the whole parallel universe doo-hicky...  Perhaps, if the past Fry were to have seen the new Fry... It would upset time and space as it happened to be.  As mentioned earlier, it's very Back to the Future-like.  Anyone whose seen the movie knows that Mcfly had to do what he did to assure the future remains the way it's supposed to be.  Perhaps, Fry had to tip the chair of Past Fry in order for him to be present in 3000.  I can't wait until The Why of Fry.
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« Reply #159 on: 03-17-2003 02:46 »

I like this bit the most:



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