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lfv
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« Reply #40 on: 09-10-2002 01:16 »

I just thought of something. I'd hate to alarm people though.

Futurama's going to "anchor" the block. Meaning either 10 or 10:30 PM. By Cartoon Network rules, certain words can't be said before 11 PM (like asshole, dumbass, goddammit. compound swears and the like). The Oblongs had to be edited for those reasons.

Then again, with the price CN paid, and seeing as they seem to love the little gem they grabbed, they may let it slide. They're letting the academy award nominated short "Rejected" get away with "Sweet Jesus!" at 10:30 (in November) because....well, it was academy award nominated. Futurama will probably slip through the censor doors though without needing a later timeslot (like Mission Hill).
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« Reply #41 on: 09-10-2002 01:44 »

Whoa!  Go CN!  I love Adult Swim.  We get the east coast times for all our satellite channels, so three of my favorite shows (Daria, Home Movies and Futurama) are all on at seven.  It's crazy!  Anyway, since Futurama's in reruns and we tape HM, I usually watch Daria, followed by the Oblongs and Mission Hill.  Anyway, I think putting Futurama on CN is a great idea.  Hopefully, it will allow more merchandise to be made and will gain some new fans.  I really don't know what to say except, "Wow!  This is more than I could ask for!"  big grin

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« Reply #42 on: 09-10-2002 02:11 »

Don't worry...if Mission Hill can get away with "douchebag" and hot gay sex at 11, I'm sure Futurama can get away with a few "ass"es at 10.
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« Reply #43 on: 09-10-2002 10:37 »

I think that if CN views Futurama as their anchor in their Adult Swim lineup I would venture to guess that they will place it around the 11pm time. That way they get people who are tuning in early to catch Futurama to see the lead-in as well as to stick around after it to see what is on.
i agree with marc as well that this will keep the door open for future merchandising prospects wethere they be with already established companies like RocketUSA or Dark Horse or others who are thinking about getting into marketing Futurama.
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« Reply #44 on: 09-10-2002 11:26 »

The only thing about editing that worries me is the editing of the rampant nudity in "Futurama". Think about it, these are adult, relatively humanoid, characters who often walk around in their birthday suits. I can see perhaps them letting Fry's bare ass through, but scenes with a nude/partially nude Leela and/or Amy (which there are too many to mention) might not be so lucky.
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« Reply #45 on: 09-10-2002 11:27 »
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what ever became of the rumours that adult swim was going to be expanded?  last i remember it was going to be all week with a time shift or something like that
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« Reply #46 on: 09-10-2002 11:39 »

Can someone explain to me why Futurama on CN at 10+pm would need editing when Futuram on FOX at 7pm does not (beyond what we see)?

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« Reply #47 on: 09-10-2002 11:43 »

 
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Originally posted by [-mArc-]:
Can someone explain to me why Futurama on CN at 10+pm would need editing when Futuram on FOX at 7pm does not (beyond what we see)?


FOX turned into a soft-porn channel so gradually I didn't even notice.

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« Reply #48 on: 09-10-2002 12:27 »

I guess I'm going to have to start watching adult swim.  I've only caught bits of it every now and then, I'm going to be a regular with Futurama on board.  It will be strange to see it promoted properly!
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« Reply #49 on: 09-10-2002 12:35 »

I'm just as baffled as mArc (well baffled might be a tad strong), but isn't this thing called Adult Swim, and broadcast after 10 PM? You'd think the target audience is old enough to handle a little cartoon nakedness, besides people who would be too young will be sleeping at this hour (or at least should be).

And if even partially nude Leela/Amy shots will be edited out, what about Leela's tank top? That's hardly a cover-all.
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« Reply #50 on: 09-10-2002 12:39 »

I will try and answer marc's question as best I can but I am not overly familiar with CN. My guess as to why CN might edit out nudity/profanity is that CN is largely viewed as a children's entertainment channel. Even though they are looking at Adult Swim as a more adult oriented programming as well as putting it on so late at night my guess would be that they would still incorporate their younger viewer guidelines into all of their programming. Even though Adult Swim is not geared towards children they would still have to take into account that overall their viewership is younger.
That would be my guess, although like I mentioned I am not familiar with CN or their policies.
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« Reply #51 on: 09-10-2002 12:52 »

ok then futurama is doomed  smile
Timo

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« Reply #52 on: 09-10-2002 13:04 »

Futurama on CN is great news!

I hope that they show us all the stuff that Fox cut, and I'm thinking primarily here about the end credits.  The only reason I knew about the shot of Kif as the Corbomite alien in "Where No Fan Has Gone Before" is because I saw it here at PEEL.

In fact, off the top of my head, I can only recall seeing any of the end credits on air twice: "A Big Piece Of Garbage," and "Xmas Story."

Oh, and of course I really hope this speeds up the release of Futurama on Region 1 DVD's.

More gratuitous nudity and swearing for everybody!!!   big grin
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« Reply #53 on: 09-10-2002 15:20 »

Our next step is for it to get so mich viewing, that the Curiosity Company will make new episodes! But for now, I'm just overwhelmed by this news.
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« Reply #54 on: 09-10-2002 15:46 »

 
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Our next step is for it to get so mich viewing, that the Curiosity Company will make new episodes! But for now, I'm just overwhelmed by this news.

FOX will have to give their approval for that, unfortunately. Damn, Damn, and double-damn.

lfv
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« Reply #55 on: 09-10-2002 17:12 »

 
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Can someone explain to me why Futurama on CN at 10+pm would need editing when Futuram on FOX at 7pm does not (beyond what we see)?

Because Turner labels Cartoon Network as a children's network. Hence the "Parents strongly cautioned" warnings you see before Adult Swim, which is the only way right now they can get away with showing it. Small price to pay if you ask me.

Maybe Matt Groening would demand zero editing. CN would probably unquestionably accept their Lord Groening's demands (hehe). Of course, Simpsons gets edited for content on local channel syndication, but that's a different story. At least we'll see the credits now with zero ads from FOX (or CN) and maybe even footage that was once before covered by FOX ads.

But don't worry, CN isn't THAT bad. They wouldn't edit to, say, ridiculous SkyOne proportions.

 
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The only thing about editing that worries me is the editing of the rampant nudity in "Futurama". Think about it, these are adult, relatively humanoid, characters who often walk around in their birthday suits. I can see perhaps them letting Fry's bare ass through, but scenes with a nude/partially nude Leela and/or Amy (which there are too many to mention) might not be so lucky.

Oblongs has shown it. Shouldn't be a problem.

 
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what ever became of the rumours that adult swim was going to be expanded? last i remember it was going to be all week with a time shift or something like that

They're just waiting til the point when they have enough programming to fill out a week's worth without exhausting all the shows.

 
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I'm just as baffled as mArc (well baffled might be a tad strong), but isn't this thing called Adult Swim, and broadcast after 10 PM? You'd think the target audience is old enough to handle a little cartoon nakedness, besides people who would be too young will be sleeping at this hour (or at least should be).

Well, like I assumed, it's Groening's work, thus it's popular, thus CN will probably let it slip under the door. This isn't Oblongs reject crap (sorry). If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if we see something FOX cut get restored for CN (FOX has done it before). Plus like I said, ad-less credit sequences, and ONE commercial break!

Remember that FOX wouldn't let "A Tale of Two Santas" air before 9 PM. Even THEY have restrictions.
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« Reply #56 on: 09-10-2002 18:31 »

I do know that CN did try to expand Adult Swim to at least two nights out of the week. There's the "Adult Swim comedy" on Sunday nights, which its certain that Futurama is going to land on. There also is Adult Swim:Action on Saturday nights, which is a lot more anime (all the Gundams, Yu Yu Hakusha, and the vastly superior Cowboy BEBOP). I never heard about them trying to spread Adult Swim out to more days, though.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #57 on: 09-10-2002 18:47 »

That Oblongs show FREEEEAKS me out!
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« Reply #58 on: 09-10-2002 20:23 »

i wasn't aware that CN edited any of their adult swim shows.
Have you guys seen sealab though? that's got a lot of sexual humor in it. I can't see Futurama being that big a deal. And heck, they run adult content warnings about every 10 minutes.
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« Reply #59 on: 09-10-2002 20:39 »

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure CN hasn't edited any of their comedies. But I do remember some internet nerds complaining a while back, because they got rid of some excess blood on Cowboy Beobop.

And yeah, they like to show off White Debbie's blurred breasts on Sealab a lot. That's pretty edgy. I'm hoping someday Adult Swim will be able to show Amy's obscene tattoo.
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« Reply #60 on: 09-10-2002 22:35 »

 
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Originally posted by Fishy Joe:
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure CN hasn't edited any of their comedies. But I do remember some internet nerds complaining a while back, because they got rid of some excess blood on Cowboy Beobop.

The scenes that I thought of immidiately are when Vicious slits the Red Dragon capo's throat in "The Ballad of Fallen Angels" and when the Mad Perriot escapes from the prision/psychiatric ward in "Perriot Le Fou" (pardon my French spelling). In both situtations, I can see why CN would edit out the blood. Especially in "Ballad", Cowboy Bebop goes get *very* bloody. Lucky I have the DVD set.   tongue
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« Reply #61 on: 09-10-2002 23:05 »

 
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I'm hoping someday Adult Swim will be able to show Amy's obscene tattoo.

I don't think there's a version that has it visible.  On the commentary track nobody actually remembered what it was that they had covered.
lfv
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« Reply #62 on: 09-10-2002 23:23 »

They said it can be seen on a high definition TV. I have one and even I couldn't see it. Jerks  tongue. ^_^
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« Reply #63 on: 09-11-2002 01:45 »

Thanks for the explanation, but to me as a non US citizen, it still makes no sense  wink I guess it's a bit different here. Swearing and (non animated) boobies are alright at noon, just excess violence is cut or warrants a higher rating (rightly so if you ask me, seeing boobie or some mooning will hardly spoil a child, but that's better left to the offtopic board).

I hope they go with money over morals. Come on, it's AOL after all.
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« Reply #64 on: 09-11-2002 08:56 »

mArc, americans are very selective about where their children can see/hear violence and cursing and nudity.

R-rated (adult) movies? fine, Tv bad. Music? Great! Tv, bad....
you got the idea.
lfv
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« Reply #65 on: 09-11-2002 11:45 »

Maybe Futurama will air over on CN UK after all. CN US's shows have been known to drift across to a sister station. Baby Blues and Home Movies did so.
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« Reply #66 on: 09-11-2002 11:58 »

I hope it will come on TV in Norway...
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« Reply #67 on: 09-11-2002 12:34 »

 
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Originally posted by [-mArc-]:
Thanks for the explanation, but to me as a non US citizen, it still makes no sense   wink I guess it's a bit different here. Swearing and (non animated) boobies are alright at noon, just excess violence is cut or warrants a higher rating (rightly so if you ask me, seeing boobie or some mooning will hardly spoil a child, but that's better left to the offtopic board).

I hope they go with money over morals. Come on, it's AOL after all.


mArc, what you just described is what I would consider "normal."  Unfortunately, the U.S. is ass-backward.  Profanity gets by here and there, but nudity and sex are outlawed.  (Except for the teasing in beer commercials that shows nothing.  Oh, and if it isn't actually sex, but violence.  That's okay, too.)

Extreme violence, on the other hand, is encouraged.  Like for example showing several two-minute long ads for the newest Hannibal movie during Monday Night Football.

I *am* a US citizen, and it makes no sense to me either.
lfv
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« Reply #68 on: 09-11-2002 14:48 »

Something else about CN is the order they're most likely going to air Futurama. They have so far aired all their other network-borrowed shows in the order of production.

This could be confusing, or maybe not, to the web people. For example, FOX aired these episodes in this order:

S03E01/2ACV18 - The Honking
S03E02/2ACV17 - War is the H-Word
S03E03/2ACV19 - The Cryonic Woman
S03E04/3ACV02 - Parasites Lost
S03E05/3ACV01 - Amazon Women in the Mood
S03E06/3ACV06 - Bendless Love
S03E07/3ACV07 - The Day the Earth Stood Stupid

we'd see THIS on CN....

S03E02/2ACV17 - War is the H-Word
S03E01/2ACV18 - The Honking
S03E03/2ACV19 - The Cryonic Woman
S03E05/3ACV01 - Amazon Women in the Mood
S03E04/3ACV02 - Parasites Lost
S04E02/3ACV03 - A Tale of Two Santas
S03E10/3ACV04 - The Luck of the Fryish
S03E09/3ACV05 - The Bird-Bot of Ice-catraz
S03E06/3ACV06 - Bendless Love
S03E07/3ACV07 - The Day the Earth Stood Stupid

Well, you get the idea.
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« Reply #69 on: 09-11-2002 17:23 »

Most internet nerds pay attention to the production codes rather than airing order anyway. I don't think this would confuse anyone.

Well, except for non-nerds. But non-nerds wouldn't care about it anyway.
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« Reply #70 on: 09-11-2002 17:36 »

Cool, that means that I'm a nerd big grin hehe
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« Reply #71 on: 09-11-2002 19:41 »

But I thought all Futurama fans were nerds....  evil laugh   evil laugh
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« Reply #72 on: 09-11-2002 19:48 »

we are. but some havn't admitted it to themselves yet. Come on people! Embrace your inner geek! Discover your inner pocket protector! You'll feel so freeeeeee!
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« Reply #73 on: 09-13-2002 20:26 »

Nerds... All this time I thought we were Geeks!
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« Reply #74 on: 09-13-2002 23:17 »

Somebody please explain the difference between nerd and geek.  I've always been fuzzy on that.
evan

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« Reply #75 on: 09-14-2002 01:14 »

"I'm not a nerd, Bart. Nerds are smart."-Milhouse
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« Reply #76 on: 09-14-2002 12:04 »

Evan hit it on the head, a Nerd is more into scientific stuff, a Geek is usually smart as well but puts all of his effort into random things, there are film geeks, car geeks, classical music geeks etc.
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