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« on: 09-09-2002 12:38 »
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synopsis at: http://www.gotfuturama.com/Futurama/News/1031588066,61640,/

 
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Originally posted by JOHN DEMPSEY/Variety:
Cartoon channel has a 'Futurama'
Reruns skedded for Sunday Adult Swim block


The Cartoon Network has engineered the most elaborate off-network purchase in its 10-year history, buying the cable-TV rights to the 72 half-hours of the Twentieth TV's primetime animated series "Futurama."
Deal represents an investment of about $10 million for Cartoon, which will schedule "Futurama" somewhere in its weekly Adult Swim animated block from 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. on Sundays, starting in January.

"Futurama" reruns "will take our Adult Swim programming to a whole different level," said Jim Samples, executive VP and general manager of Cartoon Network. Each half-hour of "Futurama," created by Matt Groening ("The Simpsons" ) and David X. Cohen, costs well over $500,000 to produce.

Established a year ago, the three-hour Sunday Adult Swim block has vaulted into the top 10 among all cable networks in the time period among men 18-to-34, the demographic target of the programming.

Previously, Cartoon had bought limited-run off-network animated series for Adult Swim such as "The Oblongs" and "Mission Hill," two shows that failed to capture a primetime audience on the WB Network, and "Home Movies," canceled after 13 episodes by UPN. Cartoon has commissioned another 13 half-hours of "Home Movies."

A Sunday-night success on the Fox Network since it made its debut in March 1999, "Futurama" has slipped in the ratings in the last year or so. Fox hasn't made it official, but the show is unlikely to come back after it burns off its final original episodes during the 2002-03 season, where it's scheduled Sunday at 7.

Cartoon has the cable rights to "Futurama" for five years. But the deal is not exclusive: Twentieth reserves the right to sell it in syndication if TV stations should show an interest at some point in buying the rerun episodes.
aslate

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« Reply #1 on: 09-09-2002 12:46 »

I just read that on CGEF, great news, hopefully the sale will make FOX realise people want this and then when it (hopfully) gets good ratings FOX'll want to drive a very large, pointy object through their exec's skulls and then restart prodcution.
M5438

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« Reply #2 on: 09-09-2002 12:49 »
« Last Edit on: 09-09-2002 12:49 »

Maybe.  Cartoon network is damn sure to give it some advertising, as it'll be the best, highest-budget show they have.

Edit: I guess I'll have to get cable.    frown    hmpf    smile
lfv
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« Reply #3 on: 09-09-2002 13:13 »

$10 million. That's enough to produce at least 8 episodes of Futurama, with some money leftover. That or FOX will blow it all on new shows that'll soon be cancelled.
Guy

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« Reply #4 on: 09-09-2002 13:53 »

Fantastic, good news for Futurama for once!
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #5 on: 09-09-2002 14:21 »
« Last Edit on: 09-09-2002 14:21 »

Am I the only one who thinks that Cartoon Network is the best channel right now? They seem to be doing nothing but good things, Here is a list
-showing fun niclected shows like Mission Hill
-Importing in high quality well known anime series (Cowboy Bebop, Inu Yasha) and showing them at a time where they need minimal editing
-Making new versions of classic shows like Justice Leauge (This week's episode was great) and He-Man
-Making some kick ass new shows like Samurai Jack. Cartoon Network is the only channel I know of that has been doing almost nothing but good things! The only problem is the proliferation of the Cartoon Cartoon commertials/songs and the whole Speedy Gonzolez thing (which they reversed).

::Edit:: made things easier to read
Teral

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« Reply #6 on: 09-09-2002 14:40 »
« Last Edit on: 09-09-2002 14:40 »

YES!!!! Finally some good news on the Futurama front. This deal HAVE to show FOX what a fantastic show they have in Futurama.

The article mentiosn that it takes more than 500000$ to produce a Futurama episode. Let's be fair and add 25% on top off that. Price pr episode: 625000$. In one deal FOX managed to pull in between 20 and 25% of their expenses. Add to that what the DVD's have made them, and the advertising income. And apparently they hope to make more syndication deals along the road. Do I have to come all the way to Americe to do the math for you, FOX?

And yes, Cartoon Network (or to a lesser extent Sci-Fi Channel) seems like the perfect place for Futurama. They sound genuinly proud that they managed to land this show. Time will tell if they treat it with repsect, but with a sticker price like that they're sure to promote the living daylight out of that show.

::does happy dance::
Venus

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« Reply #7 on: 09-09-2002 15:03 »

:: rolls around in a pile of happy :: oh happy day! kittens for everyone!
Code Green

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« Reply #8 on: 09-09-2002 15:05 »

Wow, that's really great! Futurama will be syndicated. Now if we can only convince FOX to buy more episodes of Futurama, we'd be set.
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« Reply #9 on: 09-09-2002 15:26 »

That great news I just wondering they be showing on the UK Cartoon Network?

Armor_Biff

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« Reply #10 on: 09-09-2002 15:32 »

Yeah, great news!!! This may sound stupid but, whats the difference between USA and Europe Cartoon Network if there is any ??  Will the episodes be shown in Europe too ?? Oh, yeah. FOX has now another reason to continue with Futurama.
Speli

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« Reply #11 on: 09-09-2002 15:34 »

I'm just happy that futurama will be on again, even if they are just reruns....
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #12 on: 09-09-2002 15:44 »

Thank god there's no football or baseball on the Cartoon Network!
SpacemanSpiff

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« Reply #13 on: 09-09-2002 16:01 »

those are great news! that might even mean: new futurama eps (well, maybe).
that definately qualifies for a woo! yay! houpla!big grin

hail seitan

M5438

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« Reply #14 on: 09-09-2002 16:01 »

Wow.  I didn't realize that CN has gotten so good of late.  Mabye I'll get cable before January.
slimmyCGEF

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« Reply #15 on: 09-09-2002 16:07 »

well, still this doesn't mean it's saved, but at least futurama lives longer now :P
M5438

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« Reply #16 on: 09-09-2002 16:26 »

Be happier!  It's the only good news we've had since before February.
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« Reply #17 on: 09-09-2002 16:28 »

Could someone please clarify if there's a different Cartoon Network in the US and Europe?
I have it on cable but some of those shows don't ring a bell (Mission Hill etc.) and I've never heard the of the Adult Swim thing before.

The .co.uk website was no help.

"Live forever or die trying."
M5438

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« Reply #18 on: 09-09-2002 16:35 »

The Futurama reruns are to be in adult swim.  If you don't have adult swim in europe then you're screwed.  Remember that some of the "reruns" for the US have yet to air in europe.
Jimmy Kustes
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« Reply #19 on: 09-09-2002 16:40 »

Europe and USA are different when it comes to Cartoon Networks. We don't have Fat Dog Mandoza or the Cramp Twins and the only AS shows you have are Baby Blues and Home Movies I think.
evan

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« Reply #20 on: 09-09-2002 16:48 »

For all those European readers who don't know what "Adult Swim" is...tough noogies!   evil laugh

Just kidding. "Adult Swim" on CN is a 3 hour block of more "adult-oriented" cartoons that air around 10pm on Sunday nights. Most of the shows on AS fall into one of two categories.

1) Animated prime-time shows that networks dumped for whatever reason. "Home Movies", "The Oblongs", and the superb "Mission Hill" all are examples. Yes, I just discovered "Mission Hill" last week..and oh my god is it funny.   smile

2) 15 minute shorts, usually featuring recycled animation from 70s era cartoons. The epitome of this is "Space Ghost: Coast to Coast", which I assume we all know and cherish. Other examples are "Sealab: 2021" (once really funny, but slacking off of late), "Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law", and "The Brak Show".

A lot of the type 1 shows do have the stink of failure on them, but I do think that they really don't deserve it. They were just too wierd/too good for mainstream audiences, and found a home that cared about them on cable. I'm glad Futurama has finally reached a place where the execs are going to care about it.
Kryten

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« Reply #21 on: 09-09-2002 16:52 »

If this kinda stuff keeps up, Cartoon Network will be the only channel I watch....
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« Reply #22 on: 09-09-2002 17:26 »

This guy's the best so far:

Then Dexter, but Futurama will nuke em' all if it comes.

[Homer] PLEASEPLEASEPLEASSSSSSEE!!!! [/Homer]

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« Reply #23 on: 09-09-2002 17:31 »

Well, I guess it's true... You only find out how much somebody loves something after it has been taken away, and this is what FOX are slowly learning.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #24 on: 09-09-2002 17:56 »

This is really good news, let's hope it will lead to some really great news come February smile
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« Reply #25 on: 09-09-2002 18:21 »

 
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Originally posted by [-mArc-]:
Reruns on Cartoon Network official

word up
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« Reply #26 on: 09-09-2002 18:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
This is really good news, let's hope it will lead to some really great news come February  smile

Mmmmmm  . . . . . good news.
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« Reply #27 on: 09-09-2002 18:52 »

Excellent!

Looks like Jerry Beck knew what he was talking about after all!

Now I'll need to upgrade my cable TV. 
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« Reply #28 on: 09-09-2002 19:43 »

I really don't think Futurama going into syndication on CN really sends any message to Fox that we have not already. Fox stands to make alot of money off of Futurama both now and in future syndication deals. The statement released said that Fox still has the option of selling syndication rights in the future and that the deal with CN is not exclusive.
I am still on the fence about this as I don't really think Futurama is being served by being on so late at night on some cable channel. I would rather see it on at a respectable hour like 8 or 8:30 almost any day of the week. Between 10pm and 1am just doesn't do it justice I think. As much promotion that CN is going to give Futurama I really can't see new viewers going out of their way to stay up late on a Sunday night to catch it.
On the other hand I am glad that somebody has picked up the rights to it and this will probably open the doors to other more beneficial syndication deals.
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« Reply #29 on: 09-09-2002 20:00 »

 
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Originally posted by evan:
 Just kidding. "Adult Swim" on CN is a 3 hour block of more "adult-oriented" cartoons that air around 10pm on Sunday nights. Most of the shows on AS fall into one of two categories.

1) Animated prime-time shows that networks dumped for whatever reason. "Home Movies", "The Oblongs", and the superb "Mission Hill" all are examples. Yes, I just discovered "Mission Hill" last week..and oh my god is it funny.    smile

2) 15 minute shorts, usually featuring recycled animation from 70s era cartoons. The epitome of this is "Space Ghost: Coast to Coast", which I assume we all know and cherish. Other examples are "Sealab: 2021" (once really funny, but slacking off of late), "Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law", and "The Brak Show".

3)Anime shows "Cowboy Bebop" "Inu Yasha" "Yu Yu Hakushu"

Aqua Teen Hunger Force just like 2) but it doesn't have recycled animation.
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« Reply #30 on: 09-09-2002 20:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Bendo:
I am still on the fence about this as I don't really think Futurama is being served by being on so late at night on some cable channel. I would rather see it on at a respectable hour like 8 or 8:30 almost any day of the week. Between 10pm and 1am just doesn't do it justice I think. As much promotion that CN is going to give Futurama I really can't see new viewers going out of their way to stay up late on a Sunday night to catch it.

I think being part of Adult Swim is the sweetest time slot we could hope for. And aside from being aired on NBC right after friends... (ha!)

Futurama isn't really a show for kids. Most normal adults are still awake at 10pm-12am at least. Sunday night is a great time because people are usually at home during those times, unwinding and getting ready for monday morning. I know I'm usually up doing homework and watching TV and 9 times out of 10, I'm watching Adult Swim.

This is a great deal, as far as I'm concerned.

(ps. home movies and mission hill rock, but ew. the oblongs and baby blues suck)
VelourFog

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« Reply #31 on: 09-09-2002 20:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Firecube:


Aqua Teen Hunger Force just like 2) but it doesn't have recycled animation.

Aqua Teen Hunger Force has "limited animation"

Kryten

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« Reply #32 on: 09-09-2002 22:57 »

"Limited" being another word for "crappy".

But it has Dr. Weird, so I'm not complainin'.
lfv
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« Reply #33 on: 09-09-2002 22:58 »

Ey. don't diss limited animation!
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« Reply #34 on: 09-09-2002 23:44 »

It reminds me of a very subtle joke in "Sealab 2021". One of the boxes in the dumpster does say "recycled animation". I found that hilarious the first time I saw that.
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« Reply #35 on: 09-09-2002 23:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
But it has Dr. Weird, so I'm not complainin'.

"Castle of Dr. Weird: South Jersey Shore"
Priceless!   smile
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« Reply #36 on: 09-10-2002 00:27 »

 
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::licks fingers::

Mmm, tasty. Thanks Venus.

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« Reply #37 on: 09-10-2002 00:32 »

 
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Originally posted by M5438:
 "Castle of Dr. Weird: South Jersey Shore"
Priceless!    smile

GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD! I HAVE INVENTED... THIS THING!
M5438

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« Reply #38 on: 09-10-2002 00:54 »

Should we start an Aqua-Teen quote thread?  It wouldn't likely last long with less than two hours of material released, but it's a funny show.

For anybody who's curious: I was telling the truth about not having cable, but I do have all the episodes.  The magical elf who's name starts with K and ends with A provided.
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« Reply #39 on: 09-10-2002 01:05 »

I think there are two numbers in that article which need stressing:
  • $10m
  • 5 years

    It is way too expensive for cartoon network to screw with it, so they'll probably handle it like their gem and give it what it needs timeslot and promotion wise.
    Being sure that Futurama is at least on the air for 5 years sends an important message to people like Rocket USA and Darhorse, who had to fear that Futurama would be all gone after May. This might keep things some more alive for Futurama.
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