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Chris9000

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« on: 12-04-2015 13:32 »

I really dislike how later in the series they're a couple. Fry just having a crush on her and Leela rejecting him every time was so much better. shifty I have never liked it when shows change, get main characters married, make them move etc. So I'm just wondering, am I the only one confused
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #1 on: 12-04-2015 14:02 »

There's billions of people on this planet, so you're probably not the only one.

I disagree that the dynamics of the crew should be static and never change or develop. I liked the phase of Leela turning Fry down with her sweaty boot rash and other ridiculous excuses, but there's only so long they can do that without painting her as a colossal bitch. Additionally, Fry and Leela being a couple is the foundation for some of the best post-cancellation episodes that could never happen if they kept status quo forever.

That said, I couldn't give two shits about their relationship and wouldn't care if they broke up.
Tachyon

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« Reply #2 on: 12-04-2015 15:35 »


The Fry-Leela tension is an integral component of the series, but I agree that it needn't be a static, one-dimensional thing.

Also, this probably belongs in ether:

This thread is full of ship

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Scrappylive

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« Reply #3 on: 12-05-2015 02:47 »
« Last Edit on: 12-05-2015 02:54 »

I have to agree with you, Chris. I've said before that I know my opinion is different from that of most people, but I don't desire to see progress in my sitcoms, especially not in my cartoons. I would prefer that they do not age and I would prefer that their relationships don't change too much. Some changes here and there are fine and can provide further stories to tell. However, I would only want minor changes to major characters and I would leave the major changes to minor characters.

To me, in shows like these, each episode is meant to be disparate. I don't need or desire change.
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« Reply #4 on: 12-05-2015 04:02 »

Even if a show doesn't "change" things in the literal sense (ie. pairing characters up in relationships, having a character move, age, die, etc.), all tv shows change as they continue - you can generally pinpoint certain "phases" of pretty much any show as it grows into itself and then gradually evolves over time. Ignoring the show's mythology, Futurama went through many changes - such as the first season's emphasis on exploring all the wacky differences in the future, the second season's emphasis on characters (namely fleshing out the supporting cast), etc.

As for the Fry/Leela relationship, I wouldn't call myself a shipper, but I was happy when they finally became a couple, because it opened up the doors for potential new plots (and the season 6 approach of having their vague/confusing relationship change depending on what each episode called for was just plain bad writing) - it's probably worth noting that a large portion of the highly-regarded episodes from the Comedy Central era focus on the Fry/Leela relationship: Rebirth, The Late Philip J Fry, Fry and Leela's Big Fling and Meanwhile, to name a few.

Even the device you've mentioned of Leela constantly rejecting Fry was itself an element introduced well after the show was established - that didn't really start until season 3. And while I wouldn't have been particularly upset if Fry and Leela were to have broken up, that schtick could've only gone on before it grew tiresome. You can only see one character shoot down another one so many times before one of those characters becomes completely unlikeable.

Lastly, even with some minor continuity and character development, Futurama always retained a very episodic approach right through to the end. No, Futurama didn't always hit the reset button at the end of every episode (hell, if that were the case, the pilot would've ended with him back in 1999), but as far as serialisation goes in western animation, Futurama is far closer to The Simpsons than it is to, say, The Venture Bros, BoJack Horseman or the past 2 seasons of South Park.
Chris9000

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« Reply #5 on: 12-05-2015 22:15 »

Even the device you've mentioned of Leela constantly rejecting Fry was itself an element introduced well after the show was established - that didn't really start until season 3. And while I wouldn't have been particularly upset if Fry and Leela were to have broken up, that schtick could've only gone on before it grew tiresome. You can only see one character shoot down another one so many times before one of those characters becomes completely unlikeable.

Then they don't have to shoehorn in Fry hitting on her. He could just... Not.
Beamer

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« Reply #6 on: 12-06-2015 02:29 »

I was directly responding to this portion of your original post:

Fry just having a crush on her and Leela rejecting him every time was so much better.
winna

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« Reply #7 on: 09-14-2016 05:43 »

I thought it was kind of dumb Fry's infatuation with Leela;  Fry's a bit dumb though.

That said, I liked how Fry and Leela relationship worked once it was a thing; they were friends with extracurricular circumstances.  Leela was shown as less bitchy, makes sense once she settled.  And given Fry's dumbness, he's actually pretty mature in relationships, more so than most people.

That said, I actually liked Fry and Amy better; they were friends and honest with each other and it seemed manageable.

I also didn't like Amy and Kif for a long time;  I think it ruins the comedy in Kif.

I'd probably be more attracted to Amy;  Leela would be a cool friend to have, although she's usually emotionally unstable;  her retaining characteristic is her need to succeed, which is actually just a weakness in her capability to accept herself.  It makes sense that she mellowed out later in the series, what with finding her parents and them not being complete assholes.  They're pretty cool all in all;  I'd hang out with them.
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« Reply #8 on: 09-20-2016 00:07 »

I also didn't like Amy and Kif for a long time;  I think it ruins the comedy in Kif.

Agreed, I think Amy and Kif together are far worse than Fry and Leela together, but in both instances I prefer them apart. That said, shows move on and it would become tiring like Tom and Jerry or Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote if they didn't.

dr.bender nye

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« Reply #9 on: 04-04-2017 01:47 »

Im ok with the relationship itself, I just think that how in Into the Wild Green Yonder they were like"Lets be in a relationship as a way of getting people to want the show more" "Okay". Seemed a little tacked on in that film after Leea was upset with him for the most part of this film.
Oh sorry for the bump, been ages since my last visit here
winna

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« Reply #10 on: 04-30-2017 20:07 »

No it hasn't. Post more!
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