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Timo

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« on: 08-15-2002 15:36 »

AAUGH!  It's not bad enough that the morons at Fox have propped up "King Of The Hill" while killing Futurama.  Now Mike Judge is creating his own Futurama movie, complete with an anti-Fry.  Something must be done!

From  http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2002-08/14/10.45.film

Judge Travels To 3001

Mike Judge, best known for his animated TV series King of the Hill, will write and direct 3001, an SF comedy film, Variety reported. Judge, who also co-stars in the current Spy Kids 2: The Island of Lost Dreams, co-wrote 3001 with Etan Cohen, the trade paper reported.

3001 tells the story of a regular guy who wakes up 1,000 years in the future and finds the world so dumbed-down that he's the smartest man on the planet, Variety reported.
Venus

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« Reply #1 on: 08-15-2002 17:33 »

oh eeeeeeeewwwwwwww
Sarge

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« Reply #2 on: 08-15-2002 18:13 »

Me thinks Mike Judge knows how to kis Foxs' ass better than M.G.
Kryten

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« Reply #3 on: 08-15-2002 23:23 »

I've lost every shred of respect I've ever had for him.
Sarge

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« Reply #4 on: 08-16-2002 02:25 »

Not me. If Mike Judge can do whatever he wants to do, more power to him.
I lost respect for Fox lawyers ever since MG made fun of them & they made life hard for him ever since at Fox. You know, if they ever found out about a Fox lawyer having something to do with Phil Hartmans' murder, it wouldn't surprise me.
haleys_comet

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« Reply #5 on: 08-16-2002 02:31 »

Total rip off! I hope it sux and is hated by all.
Sarge

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« Reply #6 on: 08-16-2002 03:15 »

Nurdbot wannabe.
Zed 85

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« Reply #7 on: 08-16-2002 03:16 »

I bumped into this story at the TLZ/TSF forums, and basically there there was the general cry of "Christ, how original is that!?!" But the way I see it, if and when a Futurama movie is made, then all of a sudden it will be Futurama that is unoriginal to be set in 3000+, because it isn't like hardly anyone who matters has ever really heard of the TV show.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #8 on: 08-16-2002 03:47 »

Damn, what a ripoff. Stupid Groening wannabe...he even got some guy named Cohen to co-write it.

On the other hand, Office Space rocked, so it's cool that Mike Judge is making another movie. After all, he's a funny guy...maybe he can make it completely different from Futurama despite its similar concept.

*watches a recent episode of King of the Hill*

Yeah nevermind, he sucks.
slimmyCGEF

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« Reply #9 on: 08-16-2002 05:21 »

Ugh, they're really after futurama these days, 3001, what will they think of next, Frey, Loola and Boonder?
bartman

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« Reply #10 on: 08-16-2002 05:24 »

They'll probably have mother, iny wang and dr choidnerz
slimmyCGEF

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« Reply #11 on: 08-16-2002 05:27 »

lol, or Professor Farselworth and Herpes Comrads
Nurdbot

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« Reply #12 on: 08-16-2002 05:44 »

ACK-Mike you Traiter.I'll never Watch Daria or King of the Hill Again.
flying_fry

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« Reply #13 on: 08-16-2002 06:40 »

lets sue mike for everything he's got
Firecube
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« Reply #14 on: 08-16-2002 12:27 »

I got to say that Office Space was one of the best movies I've ever seen. I love the stuff mike Judge does and when the movie comes out I'm pretty sure it won't be a copy of Futurama.
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #15 on: 08-16-2002 12:49 »

Yeah, when I read it at CGEF I almost vomit. It may not be exact copy but he can be a little more original but probably the movie will fail miserably at the box office.
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #16 on: 08-16-2002 12:52 »

I hate his style of drawing anyway.  Both B & B and K.o.t.H.
Tweek

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« Reply #17 on: 08-16-2002 13:24 »

I hope if this film is made it fails miserably  no no
VelourFog

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« Reply #18 on: 08-16-2002 13:25 »

is this new movie supposed to be live action? I wish mike judge would stick to live action, like office space, instead of animated crap like KOTH and B&B
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« Reply #19 on: 08-16-2002 13:54 »

I hope. that the film is never made, but failing that, I hope it does really badly, but doesn't take Futurama down with it.
Are FOX going to sue? Or haven't they noticed that 3001 rips off a certain show of theirs....
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« Reply #20 on: 08-16-2002 14:30 »

 
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Originally posted by flying_fry:
lets sue mike for everything he's got
No.We break into his house useing you as a Battering Ram and Lynch him.


Allen

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« Reply #21 on: 08-16-2002 14:35 »
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Originally posted by Kryten:
I've lost every shred of respect I've ever had for him.

Refresh my memory, did you ever have any respect for him?

Granted, KoTH is a much better cartoon then B&B, but not by too much. I haven't seen the full movie of "Office Space", but what I did see didn't impress me any.

I can't think that it's a rip off of Futuruma. After all, for this to make any sense, the guy has to be pretty stupid himself. Granted, the move title should be something other than 3001, that might change, but let's give the movie a chance before we condemn it.
Sarge

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« Reply #22 on: 08-16-2002 14:45 »

Mike Judges' stuff is funny, even if it is drawn ugly. I happen to like B&B. I think it's hysterical.
Allen

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« Reply #23 on: 08-16-2002 15:13 »
« Last Edit on: 08-16-2002 15:13 »

To be honest, I found the movie to be interesting. I just didn't care for the show. It could have been that people just HAD to imitate that irritating laugh, and I got to hate it.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #24 on: 08-16-2002 15:14 »

 
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Originally posted by VelourFog:
is this new movie supposed to be live action? I wish mike judge would stick to live action, like office space, instead of animated crap like KOTH and B&B

I'm assuming it's live action. If it were animated, they would have specifically pointed it out--just like they did for King of the Hill in the same article.

 
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best known for his animated TV series King of the Hill

I think animation is still a novelty for some people.
Timo

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« Reply #25 on: 08-17-2002 12:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Allen:
  Refresh my memory, did you ever have any respect for him?

Granted, KoTH is a much better cartoon then B&B, but not by too much. I haven't seen the full movie of "Office Space", but what I did see didn't impress me any.

I can't think that it's a rip off of Futuruma. After all, for this to make any sense, the guy has to be pretty stupid himself. Granted, the move title should be something other than 3001, that might change, but let's give the movie a chance before we condemn it.


No.  This one gets instant condemnation.  No quarter will be given.  Until now, I had nothing against Judge.  A lot of his stuff is quite funny.  Fox bore the brunt of my fury.  But consider, there are billions of possible story ideas out there.  (Granted, Hollywood seems intent on using six of them over and over.)  Out of these billions, Judge has chosen to remake the one that his own show helped to kill.  Thus, he has chosen the one idea that now puts him on my Nixon list, right under the Fox Network.

I say we print out the 145,000+ signatures from The Petition* into a hefty tome, then drop it on Judge from a great height.  Those of us who have signed it would then each be granted a small measure of revenge.


* http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?futufu
Just Chris

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« Reply #26 on: 08-17-2002 21:04 »

I'd say the basic storyline is a rip-off, but I can't say about the rest unless I see this film.
Allen

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« Reply #27 on: 08-17-2002 22:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Timo:
 
No.  This one gets instant condemnation.  No quarter will be given.  Until now, I had nothing against Judge.  A lot of his stuff is quite funny.  Fox bore the brunt of my fury.  But consider, there are billions of possible story ideas out there.  (Granted, Hollywood seems intent on using six of them over and over.)  Out of these billions, Judge has chosen to remake the one that his own show helped to kill.  Thus, he has chosen the one idea that now puts him on my Nixon list, right under the Fox Network.

I say we print out the 145,000+ signatures from The Petition* into a hefty tome, then drop it on Judge from a great height.  Those of us who have signed it would then each be granted a small measure of revenge.


* http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?futufu

I will give you that the storyline sounds familiar, but it isn't as if the concept itself was orignal. People have been cryogenically frozen and thawed out in movies before. Also in Futurama, people were only idiots for one episode: TDTESS. In this movie, people have been dumbed down. It also takes place in 3001, one year after Fry was unfrozen.

Now, if I see people in the film who closely resemble the characters of my favorite cartoon show, then I'll cry "Rip-off" right along with the rest of you. Until then I reserve judgement.

In case you're wondering, what I've written here isn't judgement, it's only meant to show you that there are differences, albeit tiny. Also keep in mind, not much has been released about this film yet. There haven't even been any cast decisions yet.

Maybe we'll like it, maybe we'll hate it, but it's like we tell people that try to point out similiarities between the Simpsons and Futurama: Let it stand on its own.

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« Reply #28 on: 08-17-2002 23:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
ACK-Mike you Traiter.I'll never Watch Daria or King of the Hill Again.
Actually, Mike Judge didn't create Daria.  Susan Eichler, who worked on Beavis and Butthead, created the character for B&BH and then created the spin-off.  So really, there's no reason to blame Miss Morgendorffer or Miss Lane.  big grin
Now, I have to side with Allen on this.  I don't think we should lash out at Mike Judge when we have no real proof that he is ripping off Futurama (aside from the title).  I mean, okay, so the storyline about a loser from our time is somewhat similiar, but that doesn't mean the guy's going to become best friends with a robot or lust after a mutant.  I think we should give it a chance.  I'm not saying we should see it, because I don't want to encourage Fox that we like Mike Judge, but at least give it some time.  Wait til we actually know more before we label him a copycat.
Oh, and for the record, I thought Office Space was funny, but the language got to me.  I'm not a big fan of profanity.  Otherwise, it was hilarious.

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« Reply #29 on: 08-18-2002 01:23 »

*Blinks and gasses Mizz Pataki for Correcting him*
Timo

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« Reply #30 on: 08-19-2002 00:54 »

 
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Originally posted by MizPataki:

Oh, and for the record, I thought Office Space was funny, but the language got to me.  I'm not a big fan of profanity.  Otherwise, it was hilarious.


I thought Office Space was okay.  For me, it was the language that saved it.  I *am* a big fan of profanity.  It amazes me that this culture is so shocked by sex and words, yet glorifies extreme violence and the use of dangerous drugs.  Just one more piece of verification that we live in one of those twisted sci-fi alternate realities that always make you shudder when you read about them.  You know, the ones where the inhabitants think everything is normal?  Yeah, that's right, I'm talking to all of you out there.

Oh, speaking of language, I *loved* "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back."
Timo

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« Reply #31 on: 08-19-2002 01:05 »

 
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Originally posted by Allen:
 I will give you that the storyline sounds familiar, but it isn't as if the concept itself was orignal. People have been cryogenically frozen and thawed out in movies before. Also in Futurama, people were only idiots for one episode: TDTESS. In this movie, people have been dumbed down. It also takes place in 3001, one year after Fry was unfrozen.

Now, if I see people in the film who closely resemble the characters of my favorite cartoon show, then I'll cry "Rip-off" right along with the rest of you. Until then I reserve judgement.

In case you're wondering, what I've written here isn't judgement, it's only meant to show you that there are differences, albeit tiny. Also keep in mind, not much has been released about this film yet. There haven't even been any cast decisions yet.

Maybe we'll like it, maybe we'll hate it, but it's like we tell people that try to point out similiarities between the Simpsons and Futurama: Let it stand on its own.



There is a time for equanimity, and a time for rabble-rousing.  And this is no time for equanimity.  I stand by my opinion: this concept is far too deep within the radius of acceptable alternative storylines, particularly from someone who knows better.  The only way Mike Judge gets back into my good graces is if he cancels "3001" outright.  Period.
Sarge

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« Reply #32 on: 08-19-2002 01:14 »

That's some damn big-ass radius. (Oh, the equanimity of it all!)

Butthead-"Heh heh......he said...period. Heh heh."
Torquemada

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« Reply #33 on: 08-19-2002 06:49 »

Kill Mat Groening, burn all copies of Futurama, for it is nothing but a rip off of Buck Rodgers.
OK, the year is different, but he goes foreward in time, befriends a robot and there is a chick.

Get a grip people.  roll eyes
There are no original stories left. In fact they all boil down to one of seven story lines.
Ben

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« Reply #34 on: 08-19-2002 07:53 »

Good luck to him. He might be able to make the concept a mass-media success. You know, succeed where Groening failed...
Timo

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« Reply #35 on: 08-19-2002 10:05 »

Wow.  Interesting.  I thought P.E.E.L. supported Futurama.  I didn't realize it was actually the Mike Judge Apologists' newsgroup.

Well, there was some nice outrage at the top of the thread anyway.  Thanks everyone.  I suppose that will have to do.  Honestly, though, I thought there would be more.
Firecube
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« Reply #36 on: 08-20-2002 20:43 »

I think we should see the movie or at least get a more in depth synopsis of the movie before threatening
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« Reply #37 on: 08-20-2002 20:49 »

Sorry to rain on your warpath, Timo.
Kryten

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« Reply #38 on: 08-20-2002 23:17 »

If it's any consolation, I agree completely with your tirade.
Allen

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« Reply #39 on: 08-21-2002 01:20 »

Ok, someone at least tell me how the movie stands to hurt Futurama. It won't kill it, because Fox has pretty much done that without the help of Judge. I want to understand why you're yelling about a movie that can't hurt the show and can't really help it either.
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