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KurtPikachu2001

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« on: 01-08-2014 13:27 »

What are some Futurama episodes you wish you can discard?  It could only be 5 of them.

I'll leave this for the people to decide....

MeatablePie

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« Reply #1 on: 01-08-2014 13:30 »
« Last Edit on: 01-08-2014 13:31 »

1. Yo Leela Leela
2. The Futurama Holiday Spectacular
3. Saturday Morning Fun Pit
4. Neutopia
5. A Leela of Her Own

Bold: From the Fox Run.
UnrealLegend

Space Pope
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« Reply #2 on: 01-08-2014 13:48 »

1) Saturday Morning Fun Pit
2) Neutopia
3) The Futurama Holiday Spectacular
4) Yo Leela Leela
5) Attack of the Killer App

Those are probably my 5 least-favourite episodes.
Beamer

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« Reply #3 on: 01-08-2014 14:20 »
« Last Edit on: 01-08-2014 14:22 »

I could've sworn we had a thread like this already? Or perhaps it was just a question posed in the "Would You Rather" thread. shifty

At any rate...

1. Attack of the Killer App (the worst episode of the series, relied almost solely on present-day references and gross-out humour, the Susan Boil thing was atrocious, the sub-plot with Mom went nowhere and the whole thing was just fucking painful to watch)
2. All the Presidents' Heads (shitty excuse for a time travel episode, something Futurama had done perfectly up to this point... barely made sense and lacked too much in the comedy department to make up for that)
3. The Futurama Holiday Spectacular (completely unnecessary, and unfunny to boot)
4. Saturday Morning Fun Pit (likewise)
5. A Leela of Her Own (ruined Blernsball, one of the funniest jokes the series had going for it; also boring and unfunny)
TheBPB11

Starship Captain
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« Reply #4 on: 01-08-2014 17:39 »

1. Yo Leela Leela
2. A Leela of Her Own
3. The Futurama Holiday Spectacular
4. The Route of All Evil
5. Forty Percent Leadbelly
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #5 on: 01-08-2014 17:58 »

There is several episodes that could have been left undone in the first place, but I wouldn't go and remove them now and this thread is basically a "worst episodes thread" imo.

Even if there was slightly less episodes and I would have missed something, it's not bad idea to have had makers skipped couple episodes in production (in retrospect) though this thread is mostly pointless, even with interesting question of "would you get rid of some episodes?".
Xanfor

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« Reply #6 on: 01-08-2014 18:21 »

  • Bender Dares Fry to Eat a Scorpion
  • Fry Eats a Scorpion
  • Bender Becomes a Cop
  • Amy Eats Wikipedia
  • Hermes Finds a Balloon
Monster_Robot_Maniac

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #7 on: 01-08-2014 21:29 »

1. In-A-Gadda-De-Leela
2.Attack of the Killer App
3.That Darn Katz!
4.Forty Percent Leadbelly
5.Saturday Morning Fun Pit
MeatablePie

Professor
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« Reply #8 on: 01-08-2014 22:08 »

  • Bender Dares Fry to Eat a Scorpion
  • Fry Eats a Scorpion
  • Bender Becomes a Cop
  • Amy Eats Wikipedia
  • Hermes Finds a Balloon

I expected "Fry Eats an Albino Wallaby" and "Fry Eats an Albino Wallaby: Part II" to be on this list but whatever.
Imy

Bending Unit
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« Reply #9 on: 01-20-2014 14:04 »

1. In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
2. Naturama
3. Forty Percent Leadbelly
4. Neutopia
5. Where the Buggalo Roam

The abundance of revival episodes speaks volumes huh :/
zlawke

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« Reply #10 on: 06-12-2018 09:02 »
« Last Edit on: 06-12-2018 09:05 »

1. Attack of the Killer App (gross!)
2. In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela (obviously)
3. Bender's Big Score (for retconning TLOTF and JB)
4. Stench and stenchibility (it's just boring)
5. Yo Leela Leela (stupid idea from the start)

I think it's all
UnrealLegend

Space Pope
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« Reply #11 on: 06-12-2018 09:26 »

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3. Bender's Big Score (for retconning TLOTF and JB)

It definitely doesn't quite retcon them. It just makes it... really dang complicated and confusing.
Free Hot Meal

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« Reply #12 on: 06-13-2018 04:27 »
« Last Edit on: 06-13-2018 04:30 »

I'll make this short and sweet:
1) In-A-Gadda-De-Leela
2) Attack of the Killer App
3) Some other later season episode I've refused to watch
4) Repeat #1 & #2 because they were THAT bad and frankly, pissed me off after I watched them.
5) Repeat #3. Is it just me, or after the movies (which were hit and miss as it was), other than for the random episode here and there, did the characters just break their normal routines/roles? The jokes were less funny (seemed like they were trying to go the Family Guy way), the 1-liners were forced, and well established threads/themes were broken. After most of Season 6 I stopped watching and frankly, when I see SyFy running a Futurama marathon, if it's past the movies, I won't watch.

Well, I made it short and sweet before I got into rant mode.
athena1999

Starship Captain
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« Reply #13 on: 06-14-2018 05:26 »

I definitely agree with you on the above counts. The episodes you mentioned relied too much on shock humour and vulgarity for its own sake, which was definitely beneath pre-cancellation Futurama.

The five episodes the series could do without, in my opinion, had the least substance. They either had no bearing on the series as a whole, relied too much on cheap humour, and had very little entertainment factor.
1) Saturday Morning Fun Pit - I could see they were going for the vignette format a la Simpsons Treehouse of Horror, which had potential for a few entertaining stories that couldn't be watered down into full episodes, but the parodies fell flat.
2) Holiday Spectacular - See above. Horribly unfunny to boot. The endings were a perfect example of how not to execute gallows humour (pun not intended).
3) Attack of the Killer App - I don't find gross-out humour to be funny. The references in the later seasons are obviously more dated; we're so far removed from 2009 that hardly anyone remembers Susan Boyle, for example.
4) Yo Leela Leela - Boring and unfunny in my opinion. I've never seen the show the title referenced, and the plot just seems too outlandish.
5) Most of season 7 - With a few exceptions, season 7 as a whole seemed very stale. I'm glad they wrapped it up when they did.
In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela gets honourable mention as its vulgarity for vulgarity's sake made it seem more like a Family Guy episode, but I kind of liked the framing device.
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #14 on: 06-15-2018 01:19 »

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3. Bender's Big Score (for retconning TLOTF and JB)

It definitely doesn't quite retcon them. It just makes it... really dang complicated and confusing.

I agree that "retcon" doesn't exactly apply in the case of the fuckery BBS perpetrated on TLotF and JB--but the sin that movie does commit is far more egregious. It completely neutralizes the emotional core of those two episodes by rendering everyone's grief at Fry's (now-temporary, narwhal-hunting) absence far less potent. Sure, Fry's family still has to deal with his eventual disappearance, from 2012 on, but Seymour only waited for the guy for a few years as opposed to a decade-plus, which severely undercuts the original episode's ending. (It also makes Yancy's tearful naming of his progeny, which is a moment in Fryrish that always chokes me up, utterly nonsensical.)

That said, I don't think I'd remove BBS from the series. There are faaar too many shit-shows from seasons six and seven to allow for that. To wit:

1. The Silence of the Clamps
2. The Tip of the Zoidberg
3. Ghost in the Machines
4. The Six Million Dollar Mon
5. Free Will Hunting
Dishonorable Mention: 2-D Blacktop (its first two acts are...fine, but the last act is dumb and self-indulgent and unfunny and bad)

In pretty much all of these instances, the writers take a formerly funny running character (Clamps, the Robot Devil, Roberto) or character dynamic (Fry and Bender's close friendship, Farnsworth's affection for/tolerance of Zoidberg, Hermes' hatred of Zoidberg) and completely butcher it. I will also never forgive Ken Keeler for that godawful sequence in TotZ where Zoidberg is, y'know, butchering every member of the PE crew--it is, I think, the most cartoon-y (in a bad way) thing the show has ever done.

Oh, and I get the disdain for the anthology-style episodes (minus the original AOIs and "Reincarnation"), but the fact that they're non-canon to begin with makes me far less invested in them and therefore less likely to be disappointed by their corniness/sloppiness.
Tedward

Professor
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« Reply #15 on: 06-15-2018 04:18 »

That said, I don't think I'd remove BBS from the series. There are faaar too many shit-shows from seasons six and seven to allow for that. To wit:

1. The Silence of the Clamps
2. The Tip of the Zoidberg
3. Ghost in the Machines
4. The Six Million Dollar Mon
5. Free Will Hunting
Dishonorable Mention: 2-D Blacktop (its first two acts are...fine, but the last act is dumb and self-indulgent and unfunny and bad)

Have you blocked out Near-Death Wish entirely? I recall you pretty much wishing near-death upon that episode too.
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #16 on: 06-15-2018 04:27 »

Oh, shit, I hadn't even considered that one! I think it's probably in the most direct competition with "The Tip of the Zoidberg," in terms of the flashback stuff--but the fact that it at least stretches for genuine pathos, and lacks any egregiously corny or downright nonsensical "jokes," saves it from the list. But yeah, it's still no favorite o' mine, that's for sure.
UnrealLegend

Space Pope
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« Reply #17 on: 06-16-2018 04:56 »

Honestly... if this scenario of "deleting" episodes actually came to be, I wouldn't choose any at all. I don't think there's a single episode that's bad enough to taint the entire series or anything that extreme to the point where's I'd want it completely gone. I'd argue it's even selfish; I'm sure there's a handful of people that love "Attack of the Killer App", for instance.
athena1999

Starship Captain
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« Reply #18 on: 06-16-2018 05:53 »

I'm sure there's a handful of people that love "Attack of the Killer App", for instance.

It's all subjective. I wouldn't doubt that some viewers appreciated the jabs at social media, particularly the sensationalism and the almost invasive data mining. In fact, both may be even more relevant today than when the show aired. Maybe the brand of humour in the episode appeals to a select population. I personally wasn't a fan of watching goats spew into a pool.

As for deleting episodes, you bring up a good point in that deleting episodes completely or ignoring their existence may be extreme. A better phrase might be "What five episodes do you tend to skip the most?" or "What five episodes did you enjoy the least?"

I will also never forgive Ken Keeler for that godawful sequence in TotZ where Zoidberg is, y'know, butchering every member of the PE crew--it is, I think, the most cartoon-y (in a bad way) thing the show has ever done.

Oh yes, Tip of the Zoidberg! That one also goes on my personal Dishonourable Mention list. It was salvaged by the flashbacks that delve deeper into Farnsworth's and Zoidberg's relationship, which for the most part had been unexplored until that point. However, that mercy killing sequence with the Rube Goldberg device was overkill (pun not intended) and the plot resolution seemed phoned in, to say the least.
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #19 on: 06-16-2018 22:56 »

I'm sure there's a handful of people that love "Attack of the Killer App", for instance.

Love is definitely a stretch, but I hold far less antipathy for that episode than do the majority of folks on PEEL. It's gross and cheesy and sort of typical of the too-topical/dated humor that plagued much of the new run, but it definitely doesn't sully the show's legacy for me in the same way as the episodes I listed above.

As for deleting episodes, you bring up a good point in that deleting episodes completely or ignoring their existence may be extreme. A better phrase might be "What five episodes do you tend to skip the most?" or "What five episodes did you enjoy the least?"

I actually read the whole "episode you'd like to get rid of" thing as fundamentally different from "worst episode ever" or "least-favorite episode" or something like that. Like, there are plenty of episodes--in both the old and new run--that I don't overly enjoy, and that are of a clearly lower quality than other episodes...but they don't fill me with that same mix of embarrassment, annoyance, and sorrow as the episodes I included on my "good riddance" list.

The episodes I'd most like to forget exist are those that somehow tinker with (to put it lightly; "outright bastardize" might be more accurate) some established and formerly-beloved element of the series. So, for example, "The Silence of the Clamps" not only runs the formerly hilarious (albeit, one-note) character of Clamps into the ground--it also manufactures this idiotic feud between him and Zoidberg that has the effect of messing with Zoidberg's generally well-meaning, affable, nigh-innocent persona to such an extent that he doesn't even feel like the same character to me. I mean, "Why Must I Be a Crustacean in Love?" also shows him being an asshole, but at least in that case his rivalry is with another main character (Fry) in whom the audience is equally emotionally invested, as opposed to a one-note, who-gives-a-shit character like Clamps.

On that same subject: I could have just as easily replaced one of the episodes on my list with "Proposition Infinity," which royally fucks with Amy's character, her relationship with Kif, and Farnsworth's backstory. I think I gave it a pass in this instance because there are enough quasi-redeeming things about it (I recall really enjoying the scene of the crew trying to capture the tornado for Farnsworth's mason jar or whatever, plus the Wongs' attempts at robosexual conversion with Amy; I also say the line "Even ghost and horse!" to myself with far greater frequency than one might expect), and it reconciles Kif and Amy by episode's end, so its sins are slightly more forgivable to me.

Or, hey, maybe they're not. Suffice it to say, there are probably more than five episodes I could comfortably remove from the series and never much miss. hmpf
UnrealLegend

Space Pope
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« Reply #20 on: 06-17-2018 02:33 »

"Even ghost and horse!"

Under what weird context is this a relevant line to the point where you use it frequently? confused
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #21 on: 06-17-2018 03:03 »
« Last Edit on: 06-17-2018 03:05 »

Oh, it's more like it's just a line that randomly pops into my head a lot; I think it has less to do with the content of the line and more to do with its delivery (I actually find that a lot of my favorite Bender lines are memorable largely because of the way he says them, as opposed to what he says).

But, like, for context: if I'm having a conversation with my friends about sexual politics, or reading an article about any sort of LGBT issue, "Even ghost and horse!" will definitely cross my mind. I'm not saying it makes sense--like, clearly it does not--but I can't imagine I'm the only Futurama super-nerd who'll sometimes just have random bits of dialogue/moments from the show cross their mind, whether there's a real-life reason for it or not. Or maybe I am? I dunno, man...
UnrealLegend

Space Pope
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« Reply #22 on: 06-17-2018 03:21 »

Or maybe I am? I dunno, man...

Oh, you're definitely not. I often respond to "I'm doing my best" with "Your best is an idiot!"

Usually in my head shifty
Free Hot Meal

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #23 on: 06-21-2018 03:12 »

Or maybe I am? I dunno, man...

Oh, you're definitely not. I often respond to "I'm doing my best" with "Your best is an idiot!"

Usually in my head shifty

1000% true for me! I catch myself throwing in random quotes in ordinary conversations. In fact, my friends now automatically assume when I state something "weird"/out of left field, it's probably just a random quote from Futurama. (or at least that's always their first assumption)
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