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LadyBender

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« Reply #640 on: 03-28-2014 12:15 »

Whoo! I can't believe it's been 15 years...
Tachyon

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« Reply #641 on: 03-28-2014 16:37 »


Indeed!  My life would certainly be very different had Futurama never existed.

Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #642 on: 03-28-2014 16:41 »

A long time indeed...what the heck took you so long to die? tongue
TheBPB11

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« Reply #643 on: 03-28-2014 18:00 »

Awesome to see that my favorite show turns 15 today!   big grin
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #644 on: 03-28-2014 18:58 »

Even older! Huzzah!
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #645 on: 03-28-2014 20:15 »

Hip hip, to the greatest animated show on television!  big grin

And even though it's cancelled, it still beats probably just about any other series out there today.

Now we wait for Simpsorama. We wait......
MuchAdo

Professor
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« Reply #646 on: 03-28-2014 20:18 »

Happy Futurama Day!

What? It's not a day... screw that, this is bigger than flag day at least!
Motor Oil

Starship Captain
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« Reply #647 on: 03-28-2014 20:48 »

What day is today?
It's Futurama's birthday!
What a day for a birthday!
Let's all have some cake.

Tachyon

Space Pope
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« Reply #648 on: 03-29-2014 00:33 »


Looks too nice to eat!

Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #649 on: 03-29-2014 02:16 »


Looks too nice to eat!


^This
Motor Oil

Starship Captain
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« Reply #650 on: 03-29-2014 02:17 »

Hey, it's cake. Don't question it.
WitchRaven

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« Reply #651 on: 04-01-2014 15:15 »
« Last Edit on: 04-01-2014 15:29 »

Hey.  New here.  Want to join your club and make some friends here.  Billie Hall is my name.  I'm a girl.  I live in Buloxi Mississippi.   I'm a fan of Futurama, Family Guy, American Dad, South Park, and The Simpsons.  Besides cartoons I like horror shows like The Walking Dead, American Horror Story, Hannibal, The Blacklist,  and True Blood.

Looked around here and I noticed some people were upset about bad things happening to the characters?  Come on it's a cartoon!  So what if bad things happen to a cartoon character?  It happens because it's funny.   Those people were wimps and idiots.  They probably thought they were real.  I'm not like that.  Like Futurama the way it was and I would never read the comic books or write silly stories concerning the show.  Fanfiction as it's called and comics are not my style.  I'm a normal fan.

As for favorite characters I like them all the same.  Not one I like better than the other and I don't hate on any of the characters.   All cool in their own way.   Even like his pervertedness, Zapp!

Happy 15th birthday Futurama! 
Tachyon

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« Reply #652 on: 04-01-2014 17:50 »


Edel?  Is that you?  I must say that the yellow background is a better fit than the eye-crossing blue-purple from 2012 smile

Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #653 on: 04-01-2014 18:00 »
« Last Edit on: 04-02-2014 16:00 »

With a new form of forum, here's what it's all about from now on:

Futurama is an animated TV-series that follows the lives of Fry, Leela and Bander as well as Amy, Zoidberg and others. Whether it's burgers or robots, this show has it.


(Huh, they didn't change back by itself.)
TheBPB11

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« Reply #654 on: 04-01-2014 19:43 »

WitchRaven, the complaining about characters being hurt was really only done by one user who left this forum a little while back.
WitchRaven

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« Reply #655 on: 04-04-2014 03:13 »

Well, glad this forum is back to normal.   Mind if I ask?  Who was this person who complained?  The cake picture is very cute. 
Box Incorporated

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« Reply #656 on: 04-04-2014 06:50 »
« Last Edit on: 04-04-2014 06:55 »

Well, glad this forum is back to normal.   Mind if I ask?  Who was this person who complained?  

Unmentionable

http://www.peelified.com/Futurama-Forum-6/Topic-21017-0-New_member_and_some_art.html

Couldn't take the fact that the cartoon man that he was in love with (literally acted like he was an actual, living person and wanted to marry and have sex with him) was being hurt, so left, hopefully to get psychological help.

Edit: Huh, apparently typing Onu...I mean "he who shall not be named" here is immediately changed to unmentionable. Guess you guys really want him gone...not that I'm complaining.
Beamer

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« Reply #657 on: 04-04-2014 07:16 »

Yep, the decision to alter free speech was 100% unanimous among all 12773 members of the forum.

Also, it's pretty easy to get around the macro for 0nuki's username.
WitchRaven

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« Reply #658 on: 04-04-2014 14:34 »
« Last Edit on: 04-04-2014 14:43 »

Woah.  That is messed up.  How could anybody be in love with a cartoon character?  They're not going to get nothing out of it.  Cheez!  Some people just take things way too seriously.  

I like all of the characters the same.   Never do I cry or scorn over Fry, Leela, Bender, or anyone else for that matter having bad things happen to them.  It's comedy, people!   Don't some people GET that?!?!

Ooooh, it was so scary when Bender got beat up by girl scouts.....

Motor Oil

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« Reply #659 on: 04-04-2014 21:03 »

Also KurtPikachu.

Eh, I can understand having feelings for a cartoon character, especially if you're a fairly lonely individual. Not that it should be encouraged, but I can understand it.
I like discussing the characters for who they are, what they would do in certain situations, their motivations, etc. I usually don't care if anything bad happens to them. Unless they die or something, in which case I'll be sad, but not crying sad.
Tedward

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« Reply #660 on: 04-04-2014 22:03 »
« Last Edit on: 04-04-2014 22:11 »

Oh, I see Motor Oil beat me to it, and in a more succinct and less pretentious way. Oh well, I wasted far too much time typing this rambling response anyway, so I may as well post it...

Looked around here and I noticed some people were upset about bad things happening to the characters?

Mind if I ask?  Who was this person who complained?  

Wait, so had you already looked around here to see who was saying those things or not?

Well, anyway, besides the aforementioned Unmentionable, the answer would more likely be KurtPikachu2001. He thought that the writers were unfarily singling out Leela for negative and regressive damsel-in-distress scenarios, and in his fanfics and episode ideas (which tended to involve inserting the characters into "spoofs" of other shows and movies) often would result in Fry being tied up and in need of rescue, perhaps as a way to balance out the canon injustice.

However, arguments like this...

Come on it's a cartoon!  So what if bad things happen to a cartoon character?  It happens because it's funny.   Those people were wimps and idiots.  They probably thought they were real.  I'm not like that.

...are something that bothered me when they were made before, against Kurt and in general. Yes, it is certainly possible to read too much into things, and yes, it is certainly problematic when one can't seem to distinguish between fantasy and reality, but that doesn't mean that what "happens" in fiction isn't worth critical analysis just because it isn't real, or that a cartoon is somehow inherently less worthy of thoughtful consideration than any other literature.

As an animated comedy its primary purpose by far is to entertain (rather than, say, to attempt to spur social change like a satire, or to instruct or inform like an allegory, parable, or fable), but it is still--whether its creators are aware of this or not--both a product of and a reaction to the environment and society in which it was created. Even with a fantastical futuristic setting, robot and alien characters, and a presentation of an impossible world which neither exists for us nor could be rendered as intended without animation, the show still is based on things we can understand and appreciate--relatable characters (or, if not what the characters themselves physically are, then their personalities), relationships, societal structures, and situations, and then the humor to be found therein. It shouldn't be surprising, then, that people might not be particularly entertained when certain bad things happen to characters they've grown to like--characters who, while they are not real, are representations of actual people, or at least traits that actual people have--or when they see representations of things in their own society that they don't like.

This is not to say that nothing bad or violent or unpleasant should ever be portrayed in fiction, of course--conflict of all sorts is pretty much what makes stories interesting, after all (plus, what else is real life but "conflicting things happening," so of course the stories people create to entertain themselves and try to find some sense of understanding, comfort, or humor in the world are going to reflect that)--but people shouldn't be discouraged from questioning the various visions of the world that are being presented to them in their entertainment, the very thing which can be an escape from the harsher realities of the real world, or a catalyst for change (or for things staying the same, perhaps) in the real world after seeing the way things could be.

When the conclusions people reach are clearly nonsensical and wrong, of course, then those conclusions should probably be discouraged. Discouraging people from even bothering because "it's just a cartoon," though, should itself be discouraged.
WitchRaven

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« Reply #661 on: 04-05-2014 23:52 »
« Last Edit on: 04-06-2014 00:37 »

Forgot about them.  They're long gone.   They're just smoke in the mirrors and skeletons on the closet.


totalnerduk

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« Reply #662 on: 04-07-2014 19:22 »

They're just smoke in the mirrors and skeletons on the closet.

Whereas you're a fresh bad smell.
Tonya Rodriguez
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« Reply #663 on: 04-20-2014 00:55 »

I wonder if Futurama will get resumed again.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #664 on: 04-20-2014 03:43 »

We all do, my friend. We all do.

At this stage though, I'd honestly consider it an immortal show if it came back from the dead for a third time. And like everyone says, it's better for it to die with dignity.
Mr Snrub

Urban Legend
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« Reply #665 on: 04-20-2014 22:41 »

It'd be like that dude they tried to hang like four times and he kept surviving, and eventually they just let him go.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #666 on: 04-20-2014 23:12 »
« Last Edit on: 04-20-2014 23:33 »

It'd be like that dude they tried to hang like four times and he kept surviving, and eventually they just let him go.
* Inquisitor Hein puts on a certain nitpick mode

I think the record for survived execution attempts is 3, which is shared by those two gentlemen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Babbacombe_Lee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Samuel
Mr Snrub

Urban Legend
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« Reply #667 on: 04-21-2014 00:51 »
« Last Edit on: 04-23-2014 00:04 by TheMadCapper »

Thank you, you punting clum.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #668 on: 04-22-2014 13:24 »
« Last Edit on: 04-22-2014 13:27 »

You are welcome, you gumblefumping, garbblarging wobbelsnock*.

* The terms "gumblefump" and "wobbelsnock" are    by TNUK.
TheMadCapper

Fluffy
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« Reply #669 on: 04-23-2014 03:14 »

Well Tedward, I skimmed your lengthy comment. I think we're on the same general page. Do we agree upon the following points?

1 - Futurama is an entertainment product first and foremost.

2 - People can find certain tropes familiar, relateable, and entertaining, such as the typically bumbling oaf male lead paired with the generally sensible, rational female lead. That is one extremely common TV stereotype that not a lot of people seem to get wound up about.

3 - There is nothing wrong with recognizing and understanding these themes in your entertainment, but in the case of Futurama it's best not to get literally angry with rage over it. The show is not exactly an unremitting stream of strong, competent male characters outshining weak and ineffectual female characters.
Tedward

Professor
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« Reply #670 on: 04-23-2014 03:50 »

Yes.

I'm kind of tempted to disagree with 3 in that I think the show perhaps could be worth getting upset about depending on the context, although yeah, being literally angry with rage over it is indeed not ideal. My point is more that just because something's a cartoon and/or a work of fiction and/or meant just as entertainment doesn't automatically mean it's not worth it to be emotionally invested in its characters and stories, or to question why it presents them in the way it does.
TheMadCapper

Fluffy
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« Reply #671 on: 04-23-2014 04:22 »

No, people shouldn't just give cartoons a free pass to perpetuate negative stereotypes just because they are animated. But I don't think Futurama is especially guilty of that particular transgression. Leela is usually a competent hero, while Fry is usually a complete idiot.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #672 on: 04-23-2014 06:05 »

You are welcome, you gumblefumping, garbblarging wobbelsnock*.

* The terms "gumblefump" and "wobbelsnock" are    by TNUK.

You've managed to misspell both of those terms. Source. I am disappointed by your discromulence, Heiney. tongue
Tonya Rodriguez
Crustacean
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« Reply #673 on: 04-24-2014 23:55 »

I give cartoons the aforementioned free pass because they are meant to be funny, and people should be able to tell that by watching them.
Motor Oil

Starship Captain
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« Reply #674 on: 04-25-2014 00:11 »

"Meant to be funny" doesn't necessarily mean "harmless". War of the Worlds was supposed to be funny, but that doesn't mean it was a good thing to do or that it deserves a free pass.
The line between laff and mad mad mad is a thin and poorly defined one.
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #675 on: 04-25-2014 01:13 »

"Meant to be funny" doesn't necessarily mean "harmless". War of the Worlds was supposed to be funny, but that doesn't mean it was a good thing to do or that it deserves a free pass.
The line between laff and mad mad mad is a thin and poorly defined one.

Poorly defined? I think we can all agree that it's  evil laugh...
Motor Oil

Starship Captain
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« Reply #676 on: 04-25-2014 02:10 »

"Meant to be funny" doesn't necessarily mean "harmless". War of the Worlds was supposed to be funny, but that doesn't mean it was a good thing to do or that it deserves a free pass.
The line between laff and mad mad mad is a thin and poorly defined one.

Poorly defined? I think we can all agree that it's  evil laugh...

mad mad mad

cyber_turnip

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« Reply #677 on: 04-25-2014 20:39 »

"Meant to be funny" doesn't necessarily mean "harmless". War of the Worlds was supposed to be funny, but that doesn't mean it was a good thing to do or that it deserves a free pass.
The line between laff and mad mad mad is a thin and poorly defined one.

If, as I suspect, you're talking about the Orson Welles radio play adaptation of The War of the Worlds, then no, it was absolutely not supposed to be funny. It was a radio play and it contained countless messages throughout that indicated its fictional nature, along with ad breaks and the like. It wasn't a prank; it's just that people are stupid.

If you're talking about any other adaptation of The War of the Worlds that I know of, or indeed, the original book, then no, it wasn't supposed to be funny. Parts of the Tom Cruise film arguably are and I always find the "larger than a bear" comparison amusing in Jeff Wayne's concept album, but none of these things are intentionally funny.
Motor Oil

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« Reply #678 on: 04-25-2014 21:08 »

Your suspicions would be correct.
I interpreted it as a prank, though I may have misinterpreted it. My reasoning lies in the following quote (taken from this script).
Quote
The Mercury Theatre's own radio version of dressing up in a sheet and jumping out of a bush and saying Boo!

It could easily be that I am mistaken, but I used War of the Worlds as an example because  I had always seen it as a prank (especially since it was also aired on one April 1st).
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #679 on: 04-25-2014 23:54 »

I've never had any problem with any of the characters suffering, I think because they never show them in serious pain for too long. It's never got uncomfortable for me the way other comedy shows do. And I've never found Futurama particularly misogynistic, either, though I suppose I'm not the best judge. If there was a broader range of female characters on the show, at worst there's a broad range of stereotypes.
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