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« Reply #520 on: 12-31-2013 14:09 »

I can't be the only one to notice this:

The suits are designed to look like old-timey diving suits. Back before the advent of certain mid-20th Century materials and techniques were invented, diving suits were constructed of wood, leather, brass, rubber, and cotton. They had a particular look to them - that puffy, globular, person-made-of-stacked-blobs look.

Much of Futurama's general look and feel is modelled after things from the "pulp sci-fi" era of the 40's, 50's, and early 60's (including the look and colour scheme of the PX ship). Back then, people assumed we'd be wearing things similar to diving suits to explore other planets, and illustrations of that sort of pressure suit would grace the covers of novels and pulp magazines from that era.

Then, of course, NASA invented actual space suits that didn't look much like diving suits, and ruined a good couple of decades of speculative fiction in the process. :p

Stay-Puft's limbs, on the other hand, are made of stacked marshmallows. Therefore they co-incidentally recall the look of old-timey diving suits. So, no. It's not a Ghostbusters reference. It's a classic pulp sci-fi reference, and you should probably go read a bunch of classic pulp sci-fi if you want to truly appreciate the dozens of similar references scattered throughout the series.
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« Reply #521 on: 12-31-2013 14:17 »

I've always been amused by the use of VHS tapes and floppy disks in Futurama.
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« Reply #522 on: 12-31-2013 14:22 »

Now that you mention it, UL.

I just got hit with some nostalgia, even though people my age don't even know what VHS tapes are.
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« Reply #523 on: 12-31-2013 14:29 »

It stands for "Virus-holding sin tape". You're better off to just smash every single one you see.
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« Reply #524 on: 12-31-2013 14:33 »

It stands for "Virus-holding sin tape".

That goes some way to explaining why most of the VHS tapes from our era will be damaged by the second coming of Jesus.
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« Reply #525 on: 12-31-2013 14:35 »

It stands for "Virus-holding sin tape".

That goes some way to explaining why most of the VHS tapes from our era will be damaged by the second coming of Jesus.

No need to worry then...
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« Reply #526 on: 01-02-2014 14:09 »
« Last Edit on: 01-02-2014 22:17 »

Since Futurama is going to go on via the comics.  If there's one more issue where Leela gets captured all by herself, I'm done!

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« Reply #527 on: 01-02-2014 14:13 »

I hate it when people get captured all my themselves! :mad:
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« Reply #528 on: 01-05-2014 19:08 »
« Last Edit on: 01-05-2014 19:11 »

I hate it when people get captured all my themselves! :mad:

Yeah, I hate it when they are captured my themselves my some villain.  :mad:
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #529 on: 01-05-2014 21:54 »
« Last Edit on: 01-05-2014 22:23 »

Come to think of it, since American Dad did a Breaking Bad spoof, why didn't Futurama do one?  Maybe one where Leela and Bender sell fake IDs and they have the Armienian Mob after them?  Leela and Bender have to make a trade for them or something like that?  Farnsworth wants to try to get the goods on whoever it is who's selling the fake IDs totally unaware it's Leela and Bender.  Maybe Fry or Scruffy would get captured by the Mob at the end.  Leela and Bender BOTH get arrested and Hermes and Amy get them out.  

See?  Isn't it better to get in trouble along with someone else?

Or maybe one where Farnsworth has a rich old girlfriend who showers everyone with gifts, and then dumps him for a younger man who wants her money and the Crew have to think of a way to get the money for themselves?

What about one with Fry being Little Red Riding Hood and he has to deliver some goods to Great Nephew's house?  The Robot Devil could've been the Big Bad Wolf.


Any of these would have been way better than LATGS.    How about this one I wrote in this thread?



http://www.peelified.com/Futurama-Forum-6/Topic-24678-0-Create_Good_Futurama_Epis.html










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« Reply #530 on: 01-05-2014 22:19 »

If Futurama was to do a Breaking Bad spoof, I could totally see another Bender+Hermes episode working for that.

And Kurt, I understand you hate LATGS. Some of us, don't though. So please, please stop referring to things being better than it. Trying not to sound like I'm defending it, cause I'm not a particular fan of the episode. But I mean we get it: You don't like the ep. It should be done with now.
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« Reply #531 on: 01-05-2014 22:24 »

That's even better!!  That would be cool.  You're right, Solidsnake!  Now I'll stop with ideas that would have been better. 
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« Reply #532 on: 01-06-2014 02:39 »

Come to think of it, since American Dad did a Breaking Bad spoof, why didn't Futurama do one?  Maybe one where Leela and Bender sell fake IDs...

So, not only are you suggesting that they do a full-blown parody episode - which is already unoriginal in itself - it should also rip off a parody that another show has already done?
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #533 on: 01-06-2014 02:42 »

Kurt's trolling is becoming worst by the day; maybe it's time he retired.

Also, I agree with Beamer that it wouldn't make sense for Futurama to do a parody of a show when another show has already done exactly the same thing.
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« Reply #534 on: 01-06-2014 03:45 »

[...] it wouldn't make sense for Futurama to do a parody of a show when another show has already done exactly the same thing.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StockParodies
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« Reply #535 on: 01-06-2014 08:33 »

Come to think of it, since American Dad did a Breaking Bad spoof, why didn't Futurama do one?  Maybe one where Leela and Bender sell fake IDs and they have the Armienian Mob after them?  Leela and Bender have to make a trade for them or something like that?  Farnsworth wants to try to get the goods on whoever it is who's selling the fake IDs totally unaware it's Leela and Bender.  Maybe Fry or Scruffy would get captured by the Mob at the end.  Leela and Bender BOTH get arrested and Hermes and Amy get them out.  

See?  Isn't it better to get in trouble along with someone else?

Well who is Fry or Scruffy getting in trouble along with? Why don't you just kill Fry or Scruffy off if you hate him so much! :mad:
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« Reply #536 on: 01-06-2014 08:38 »

[...] it wouldn't make sense for Futurama to do a parody of a show when another show has already done exactly the same thing.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StockParodies

It's not just that, it's the fact that American Dad's Breaking Bad parody already substituted crystal meth with fake IDs. There are countless ways to tweak the parody accordingly (especially in the Futurama universe, where such possibilities are always limitless), and yet someone else's parody was suggested verbatim. Creatively, parodies are already a bit of a tired concept, but that is beyond lazy.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #537 on: 01-06-2014 15:09 »

Since the only source of Futurama we'll get is the comics, how come we never see any spoilers or promo pics of the upcoming comics like we did with the episodes?

If Futurama came back and their opening credits changed, it would probably be like this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjttITHOdPc
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #538 on: 01-06-2014 20:07 »

If Futurama came back and their opening credits changed, it would probably be like this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjttITHOdPc
I am dumbstruck by the amount of idiocy radiating from the idea that an unused opening for a crappy move would somehow be related to Futurama.  :nono:
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« Reply #539 on: 01-06-2014 21:03 »

I am dumbstruck by the amount of idiocy radiating from the idea that an unused opening for a crappy move would somehow be related to Futurama.  :nono:
Yeah, I hate it when I'm about to do a crappy move and the opening I put so much effort into making gets ununsed. :p

To stay on-topic: (may have been covered already) from volume 7 commentaries:
Apparantly, Fun on a bun was one of DXC's highlights of season 7, and it had been on the backburner for some time because they couldn't figure out what the Fry/Leela story would be about.
Also, in Free Will Hunting, they noted (animation goofs?) that the flags in the courtroom weren't Earthican, and the ending was Matt's favourite part.
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« Reply #540 on: 01-06-2014 22:31 »

...But the ending of Free Will Hunting is among the worst in the series...
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« Reply #541 on: 01-07-2014 02:08 »

...But the ending of Free Will Hunting is among the worst in the series...

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« Reply #542 on: 01-07-2014 02:11 »

If Futurama came back and their opening credits changed, it would probably be like this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjttITHOdPc
Bender's Big Score did something very similar already.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #543 on: 01-07-2014 03:21 »

...But the ending of Free Will Hunting is among the worst in the series...

*snip*

Yes, I'm aware that "The Cryonic Woman" exists. I did say "among".
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« Reply #544 on: 01-07-2014 03:46 »

I know - I still I couldn't resist, though. :p

I actually like the ending to Free Will Hunting. It made me laugh, at least, despite (or maybe due to) how abrupt it was. But the episode itself is incredibly flawed, regardless of its final moments.
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« Reply #545 on: 01-07-2014 11:12 »

Just to clarify, I meant the scenes with Bender confronting Professor. Bender getting dragged away made somewhat sense.
Yes I agree it's one of the worst, but then I start thinking about The Bots and the Bees, The Butterjunk Effect & Neutopia; my point being that it was a more apparant problem during the CC era.
FWH itself has some highlights such as the way robots act, and the chlorine gas. Such jokes were used in the original run. I feel they should've addressed the fact that the humans brought them the lug nuts, yet Leela said the robots on the planet would kill them on sight.
The whole problem with free will was not dealt with in an interesting enough way.
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« Reply #546 on: 01-07-2014 13:23 »

Not to mention the whole scene with the robot elders just screamed "HEY EVERYONE, REMEMBER THESE GUYS?"

I haven't seen the entirety of FWH for a while, but I distinctively remember a bucket of problems. And yes, there's definitely worse endings out there.

Hmm, I just had an idea. I'm gonna list off the endings I don't like, because I've never done that before.

Average endings:
War is the H-Word
The Cryonic Woman
The Cyber House Rules
The Sting (flame shield ready)
Obsoletely Fabulous
Attack of the Killer App
Law and Oracle
Yo Leela Leela
Overclockwise
The Bots and the Bees
The Six Million Dollar Mon
2-D Blacktop
Assie Come Home
Leela and the Genestalk

Bad endings:
Bender's Game
Proposition Infinity
Ghost in the Machines
A Farewell to Arms
Zapp Dingbat
Free Will Hunting

Terrible endings:
Neutopia
All the Presidents' Heads
The Butterjunk Effect

...And almost all of them are in the CC run. That's a bit of a concern...
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« Reply #547 on: 01-07-2014 21:23 »

It seems to me that many of the CC episodes involved pretty ambitious plot ideas, which caused many of them to end with some very noticeable cop-outs. Their getting used to writing Futurama in a movie format may have influenced this, as they had to think up much bigger plots to fit the length of a film. In most cases, it seems this 'think big' mindset was carried over to the regular seasons' episodes.

I personally don't mind cop-out endings, so long as the rest of the episode was good. I'm a big fan of Ghost in the Machines, and while I do admit the ending was very poorly played out, I liked the rest of the episode enough for me to give that a pass. However,in The Butterjunk Effect's case, I found the ending to be the worst part of the episode, because I didn't really like anything preceding it.
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« Reply #548 on: 01-07-2014 22:37 »

It was even said in commentary that they just needed to end Butterjunk Effect somehow leading to that cop-out ending (which wasn't the worst part of episode imo, it was very funny at least). :nono:


Their getting used to writing Futurama in a movie format may have influenced this, as they had to think up much bigger plots to fit the length of a film. In most cases, it seems this 'think big' mindset was carried over to the regular seasons' episodes.

Movies might be partly behind that trend and it definitely was one of the problems in the new run.
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« Reply #549 on: 01-07-2014 22:55 »

I found Season 6A the blandest of the seasons, I know it was about evolution and what not which I found fitting to the show.

Season 6B was the most diarrhea-inducing season, can't argue with that.
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« Reply #550 on: 01-08-2014 02:53 »

I can't even remember how The Butterjunk Effect ended. :p
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« Reply #551 on: 01-08-2014 02:54 »
« Last Edit on: 01-08-2014 02:56 »

6B is actually my favorite sub-season of the new run. It had it's share of recurring problems, such as way too many modern day references (in one case, an episode long one... :nono:) and too much uncertainty to Fry and Leela's relationship (Fry am the Egg Man), but I liked alot of the episodes' stories, and I found alot of them to be pretty funny. There are only three episodes from the subseason I really didn't like, (Yo Leela Leela, Fry am the egg man, and All the presidents' heads), and all the rest were either sub par or great for me. As a side note, my favorite episode from the subseason was Mobius Dick.
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I can't even remember how The Butterjunk Effect ended. :p
It basically ended with Fry shedding his butterfly body and looking completely normal, red jacket and all.
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« Reply #552 on: 01-08-2014 03:25 »

Other than Möbius Dick, Reincarnation and Law and Oracle, I thought 6B was pretty mediocre the whole way through. Nothing else really stood out.

I will say, though, that the absolute best and worst of season 6 for me both reside in 6A, which I guess makes 6B the more consistent half-season, at least.
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« Reply #553 on: 01-08-2014 04:19 »
« Last Edit on: 01-08-2014 04:45 »

[...] it wouldn't make sense for Futurama to do a parody of a show when another show has already done exactly the same thing.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StockParodies

I've never really been a big fan of parodies, but maybe that's just me.

[Stupid question deleted. Nothing to see here]
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« Reply #554 on: 01-08-2014 04:28 »

Read the website. :rolleyes:

I don't mind parodies if they're integrated seamlessly into the plot at hand, though I firmly believe the parody in question needs to actually make sense, and remain enjoyable to those who don't possess any understanding/knowledge of the source material.
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« Reply #555 on: 01-08-2014 04:35 »

I don't really hate parodies; I've actually enjoyed a few in the past. I don't think that Kurt's Breaking Bad parody idea makes any sense, though, considering that he only thinks that Futurama should have done one because American Dad did. I don't watch Breaking Bad, so I don't know anything about it. However, I suppose that it would be possible for Futurama to do a BB parody without ripping off AD, though.
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« Reply #556 on: 01-08-2014 20:41 »

Does anyone know when season 7a might air in the UK? I'm kinda waiting for a bluray I don't have to get shipped from Australia..
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« Reply #557 on: 01-08-2014 20:42 »

I checked online a few weeks ago, it just said "TBA/Early 2014", but honestly who knows. New episodes of Futurama can take eons to hit UK TV screens. :(
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« Reply #558 on: 01-08-2014 22:09 »

such futurama. so cancelled.
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« Reply #559 on: 01-12-2014 03:34 »

The Butterjunk Effect has the worst ending. I'm fine with everything up to that point, but the ending is god-awful.
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