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Beamer

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« Reply #160 on: 10-07-2013 13:52 »
« Last Edit on: 10-07-2013 14:13 »

"Bees" sucked, but it sucked a lot less than most of the episodes I listed.
"Baghead" had a lot of good gags, I agree - but that whole lifeforce thing was just too much for me. And the attempts at satirising acting fell short. I loved the t-rex, too. The episode just did enough bad to leave a bad taste in my mouth.
"Death Wish" was a wonderful premise and I also had high hopes for it. I do think it was pretty terrible, though. Beyond a few great jokes at the start, everything about it ranged from mediocre to a complete and utter mess.

And I mean, having good points isn't always enough to save an episode. I think there are a lot of good points about "The Futurama Holiday Spectacular", but they're not enough to stop it being the worst episode of the show.

The life force thing bothered me a lot less on repeat viewings of Baghead. I've really come to enjoy it since, and I'd go as far as to call it one of the most consistently funny outings of the show. Like I said before though, I know I'm in the minority in this one, and I totally understand if the life force thing is enough to destroy the episode for someone. It's exactly how I felt the first time I watched it.

I can't really make much of a case for the other two, but yeah, I still think you're being a bit too harsh on episodes that aren't actively terrible. Except for the Holiday Spectacular. That was awful.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #161 on: 10-07-2013 14:14 »

I liked The Thief of Baghead too and I think life force joke itself was great. Now it occurred to me that in The Thief of Baghead Professor was implementing non-scientific concept into science (soul, as he (accidentally) said at one point) and that was the case in Calculon 2.0 too, even more so (satanistic ritual).

But, yes, I liked both of those episodes and there was many great episodes in season 7, but what makes it worse than season 6 to me, is that the overall feeling wasn't so strong/good and there were minor issues and especially pacing issues in season 7 that hold it back, even though the episodes were enjoyable and good.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #162 on: 10-07-2013 14:16 »

I agree with you on Baghead, Beamer.

Once I stomached the zaniness of the "life-force" thing, I found it really entertaining. The All My Circuits clip was particularly memorable for me. I'm one of the rare folk who actually like it more than "Calculon 2.0", in fact.

I also sit with the camp who likes 7B way more than 7A. 7A had two really great episodes (Fun on a Bun and 31st Century Fox (why do people dislike this one again?)) and a handful of "good" episodes, but most of it fairly forgettable. 7B had at least 4 great episodes.
Beamer

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« Reply #163 on: 10-07-2013 18:41 »

The last few episodes of 7B were very strong indeed, it was a good run to go out on. smile
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #164 on: 10-07-2013 19:04 »
« Last Edit on: 10-07-2013 19:05 »

I liked The Thief of Baghead too and I think life force joke itself was great. Now it occurred to me that in The Thief of Baghead Professor was implementing non-scientific concept into science (soul, as he (accidentally) said at one point) and that was the case in Calculon 2.0 too, even more so (satanistic ritual).

In "Calculon 2.0", the science held up far more - but parodied unscientific methods. Taking an old hard-drive from a sacrificial robot goat, for instance, was a wonderful touch, parodying the cliched Satanic ritual in "scientific terms". Plus, they lampshaded the absurdity of it to hell, and frankly, the ultimate goal was to fix a mechanical device (Calculon) which isn't completely unrealistic.

The life force stuff, on the other hand, was ridiculous, nothing about how it played worked on any level beyond being absurd and it basically breaks an aspect of the world that the show is set in. Now I have to accept that what is essentially a load of bullshit magic exists within the Futurama universe.


I'd concur that 7B was much better than 7A, for the record. Not that I'm a huge fan of 7B, exactly.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #165 on: 10-07-2013 19:29 »

The life force stuff, on the other hand, was ridiculous, nothing about how it played worked on any level beyond being absurd and it basically breaks an aspect of the world that the show is set in.

I would think it's only relevant concept with the creatures, who "eat" it and actually all what is inside the person as a form of energy (or something), but yeah, it still maybe too absurd to be within Futurama universe. Particularly the representation of "life force" is what makes it implausible.
Beamer

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« Reply #166 on: 10-08-2013 07:21 »

So when are we going to talk about that army dude? You know, General Futurama?
ShinyMetal***

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« Reply #167 on: 10-08-2013 23:02 »

 Let's talk Futurama drama. Which Futurama episode (in general) do you think has the most dramatic plot?
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #168 on: 10-08-2013 23:07 »

"The Sting", "The Devil's Hands", "Time Keeps on Slippin'", and "The Late Phillip J. Fry" all have rather dramatic plots, although I'd say "Sting" has by far the most dramatic story of them all.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #169 on: 10-08-2013 23:09 »

I say "The Sting" too.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #170 on: 10-08-2013 23:12 »

A few parts of Bender's Big Score were pretty dramatic, as well, but nowhere near as dramatic as the episodes I listed.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #171 on: 10-08-2013 23:14 »

It's obviosly that episode, Futurama-drama-rama!!!

The Sting and The Late Philip J. Fry both had very dramatic feeling.
Hmm, what have I heard those two episodes referred as before?...
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #172 on: 10-08-2013 23:14 »

"Lethal Inspection" played like a drama. It was one of the purest "character studies" that the show has done.
ShinyMetal***

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« Reply #173 on: 10-08-2013 23:21 »

Yea, I have to say about the same, "The devils hands," "The Sting," "Lethal Inspection," ect.

What episodes do you think are the funniest?
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #174 on: 10-08-2013 23:24 »

"Prisoner of Benda" was really funny, at least to me. I consider it to be the funniest episode of the series.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #175 on: 10-08-2013 23:27 »

What episodes do you think are the funniest?

Love's Labours Lost in Space
When Aliens Attack
A Head in the Polls
Anthology of Interest I
Anthology of Interest II
Bender Should Not Be Allowed on TV
The Farnsworth Parabox
Three Hundred Big Boys
The Prisoner of Benda
The Silence of the Clamps
Stench and Stenchibility
ShinyMetal***

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« Reply #176 on: 10-08-2013 23:33 »

 Yea, I can agree with most of those. I still didn't see "The Prisoner of Benda" yet so I'll check it out.

I personally thought that "THBB" wasn't that funniest but it still had lots of other great aspects. It did have some small funny moments though.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #177 on: 10-09-2013 01:28 »

Yea, I can agree with most of those. I still didn't see "The Prisoner of Benda" yet so I'll check it out.

You'll definitely like it. It's a great episode that makes you laugh and think at the same time. smile

I personally thought that "THBB" wasn't that funniest but it still had lots of other great aspects. It did have some small funny moments though.

It wasn't the funniest episode ever, but I thought Fry's coffee addiction was somewhat humorous. Also, it is based on The Simpsons episode "22 Short Films About Springfield," in case you didn't know. You should definitely check it out; in my opinion, it is superior to THBB.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #178 on: 10-09-2013 03:55 »

Yeah, I also suggest seeing '22 short films' before 'Big Boys' so that you can get a feeling for the faster paced stories.
Beamer

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« Reply #179 on: 10-09-2013 04:05 »

What episodes do you think are the funniest?

War is the H-Word, Spanish Fry, That Darn Katz, The Thief of Baghead, Calculon 2.0 are all consistently hilarious (at least in my opinion), and have no objective other than humour. Reincarnation is incredibly funny too, so long as you're familiar with the animation styles being parodied.

The Prisoner of Benda is one of my favourite episodes ever; it's VERY funny, and super clever, too... Very much on par with The Farnsworth Parabox in that regard. smile
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #180 on: 10-09-2013 04:25 »
« Last Edit on: 10-09-2013 04:26 »

Prisoner of Benda is definitely somewhere high in my top 10's. Like Beamer squirted out of his juicy, succulent noise hole, it's unbelievably funny, and it's very thoughtful - so thoughtful, in fact, that they made a freaking theorem about Farnsworth's invention, the mind switcher, for this episode. I'd go as far as to say that it's actually better than The Farnsworth Parabox, even though they're basically on the same level, comedy and story wise. I don't know why, but I just think it utilizes the characters better than Parabox did, giving them each their own different storyline.
Beamer

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« Reply #181 on: 10-09-2013 04:46 »

Parabox is slightly more character-driven in its concept whereas The Prisoner of Benda is very, very plot-driven.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #182 on: 10-09-2013 13:20 »

"Anthology of Interest I", "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid", "Insane in the Mainframe", "I Dated a Robot", "Anthology of Interest II", "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles", "Where No Fan Has Gone Before", "The Farnsworth Parabox" and "Law and Oracle" are probably the funniest ones for me.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #183 on: 10-10-2013 15:58 »

What is the name of that Russian Street Vendor?  He appeared in such episodes as My Two Sons and The Six Million Dollar Mon?

Is it maybe possible for Futurama to do direct to TV movie specials?  After all, Snoopy and Garfield did that.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #184 on: 10-10-2013 22:50 »

Yes, because if Snoopy and Garfield did it, then Futurama can and should do it too!
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #185 on: 10-10-2013 23:07 »

I hear that Matt Groening is thinking of restarting the Futurama comic strip, which was terminated in 1999 after inspiring the animated series.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #186 on: 10-11-2013 00:45 »

Hmmmm.  That's a good sign.  Maybe we'll see Fry, Leela, and Bender in the Sunday paper soon!   I'm fine with that!

Either that, or they should do direct to TV movie specials!  Like maybe an XMAS one where Fry and Leela have kids since they're married now.


SolidSnake

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« Reply #187 on: 10-11-2013 02:53 »

Hmmmm.  That's a good sign.  Maybe we'll see Fry, Leela, and Bender in the Sunday paper soon!   I'm fine with that!

Either that, or they should do direct to TV movie specials!  Like maybe an XMAS one where Fry and Leela have kids since they're married now.



Umm, I think he was attempting to be sarcastic. Was a pretty bad attempt, I gotta admit.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #188 on: 10-11-2013 03:00 »

It wasn't as bad an attempt at sarcasm as was your attempt to use proper grammar, though. tongue
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #189 on: 10-11-2013 21:31 »

Where did you hear that Futurama was going to be a comic strip?

Anyway, it would be cool to do what Star Trek did.  Have it come back as a spin off that takes place 20 some years later.  A NExt Generation kind of thing.   While the original crew is long retired.  Whoever Fry and Leela's son is can be the new Fry.   Ben can be the new Bender.  Sally the three eared girl can be the new Leela.  Dwight can be the new Hermes.  One of Kiff and Amy's kids can be a female intern and Cubert can be the new Farnsworth.    Maybe another Decopodian can be a punching bag doctor. 

cyber_turnip

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« Reply #190 on: 10-11-2013 21:57 »

It was a joke, Kurt.

And a Next Generation thing would make no sense, here. All of the original talent is still available and they'd pretty much all be up for making more of the original show. The concept doesn't really lend itself to a new generation in the same way that Star Trek does.

Maybe, it'd be good for a one-off episode should the show ever be revived, but I don't like the idea of all of the character's kids winding up with the exact same jobs as their parents. It's just stupid.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #191 on: 10-11-2013 22:01 »

We never really did know how Slurm tasted.

Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #192 on: 10-11-2013 22:03 »

It tastes like a giant, female slug's ass, according to "Fry and the Slurm Factory".
ShinyMetal***

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« Reply #193 on: 10-11-2013 22:04 »
« Last Edit on: 10-11-2013 22:05 »

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It wasn't the funniest episode ever, but I thought Fry's coffee addiction was somewhat humorous. Also, it is based on The Simpsons episode "22 Short Films About Springfield," in case you didn't know. You should definitely check it out; in my opinion, it is superior to THBB

Yea, Fry's coffee addiction slightly tickled my funny bone. Anywho, I'll be sure to watch that Simpsons episode as well as "The Sting."
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #194 on: 10-11-2013 22:18 »

Has anyone ever noticed that in "Priosner of Benda", Bender's/John DiMaggio's voice seems to be way deeper than usual? It sure sounds that way to me, for some reason.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #195 on: 10-11-2013 22:24 »

You're right about that.   Noticed that too.

Ever notice how when Family Guy came back in 2005, it's still going strong to this day and Futurama came back and only had three seasons?  (Four movies as well)

Wonder what it would've been like if Futurama came back in 2005 to FOX instead?   And Family guy came back two years later and had four DVD movies and that came back on Comedy Central only to last three seasons?

What would that have been like if the shoe was on the other foot?
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #196 on: 10-11-2013 22:26 »

I think Bender's voice being off is largely psychological - something you can chalk up to seeing it coming out of Amy's body.

Bender's voice sounds weird when he turns human in "Anthology of Interest II", but in that instance, it's completely psychological. David X. Cohen even mentions it on the commentary.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #197 on: 10-11-2013 22:27 »

You're right about that.   Noticed that too.

Ever notice how when Family Guy came back in 2005, it's still going strong to this day and Futurama came back and only had three seasons?  (Four movies as well)

Wonder what it would've been like if Futurama came back in 2005 to FOX instead?   And Family guy came back two years later and had four DVD movies and that came back on Comedy Central only to last three seasons?

What would that have been like if the shoe was on the other foot?


That would have been nice, but I don't think Fox would have wanted Futurama back. They've hated it since it debuted.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #198 on: 10-12-2013 00:39 »

I haven't had the time to respond to this, and I'm really just uncovering a bone so brittle it could crumble to bone-dust. I just had to address it.

That 'I Love It' song is terrible, despite most people's opinion. It's the perfect example of how almost all of today's songs have unbelievably stupid lyrics that mean nothing whatsoever, unlike pretty much all older songs.

Here's one line of lyrics from 'I Love It', 2012
I got this feeling on the summer day when you were gone.
I crashed my car into the bridge. I watched, I let it burn.
I threw your shit into a bag and pushed it down the stairs.
I crashed my car into the bridge

 ...and here's one from 'Scenes From and Italian Resturaunt', 1977
They got an apartment with deep
Pile carpet
And a couple of paintings from Sears
A big waterbed that they bought
With the bread
They had saved for a couple
Of years
They started to fight when the
Money got tight
And they just didn't count on
The tears.

In just one line of lyrics, the older song tells a somewhat comprehensible story about a couple that didn't belong with one another that is easy to visualize and is definitely believable.
Compare that to a line of lyrics from just last year, that makes almost no sense at all, and is in no way believable or visualizable.

There's such a huge difference between music from them and now, that it's almost hard to believe.
Shame on Modern Music. Shame on It. no no

Actually, "I Love it" is one of my favorite songs.  frown

You're really overanalyzing things (and that's coming from me). "I Love it" is a nightclub song. Just an upbeat, energetic song with empty meaning that slutty whores can get drunk to.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #199 on: 10-12-2013 00:49 »

The song's beat and actual sound isn't bad, but it's the lyrics that I don't really like. Your point is true, however, that it's not supposed to make much sense. However, older songs that were also meant for parties made alot more sense than current party songs, further helping my argument.

Also, I suggest we continue this conversation in the Music thread, so this one doesn't go too off topic.
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