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Gorky

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« Reply #520 on: 02-03-2014 12:33 »

If anything, Futurama and their original slot on Fox were the pairing most suited to one another.

I don't know if I've mentioned this elsewhere before--I reckon I probably have, as I only possess about three original thoughts about this show and I've just spent the past decade posting various iterations of them--but I thoroughly agree with the idea that Fox was the best network for Futurama. I mean, Fox treated the show poorly and was largely responsible for the low ratings that led to its first cancellation, but something about the aesthetic of a major network was more conducive to the show's artistic (if not, obviously, commercial) success than that of a quirky cable channel. I think Comedy Central gave the writers far too much leeway to be "edgy" (so, you know, borderline-puerile) and lowest-common-denominator-y and pop-culture-y; it was by no means the smartest show on the network (I guess that title would go to The Daily Show or even, in certain respects, South Park--both of which are pop-culture-y, yes, but they have a clearer ideological direction than any of the latter-day Futurama episodes did).

Meanwhile, when the show was on Fox and the writers had to be more careful with what they said and did, they found clever ways to be subversive. An episode like "Spanish Fry," for example--one of my favorite episodes of the series, and one of its raunchiest--is based entirely in innuendo, and that works; an episode like "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela" makes a stupid joke about pubic libraries which seem to exist merely because Comedy Central allowed it to. When Futurama was on Fox, it was easily the smartest of its animated shows--even beating out that particular era of The Simpsons, I'd say; it was simultaneously "adult" in a lot of its content and endearingly sweet and dorky (and, yes, slapstick or otherwise silly when need be). That balance was never really struck in the Comedy Central years--with, perhaps, a handful of exceptions--because the writers seemed too hung-up on the envelope-pushing possibilities and less interested in subtlety. And that hurt the show in the long-term, I think...but I digress.
TheBPB11

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« Reply #521 on: 02-03-2014 22:41 »

I would personally love to see it return to [adult swim], new eps or not. Because let's face it: Futurama and [adult swim] complete each other.
For some reason this also seems to be the general opinion on Futurama Fan Forum.  The last time I visited that site was around the cancellation, and people were consistantly creating petitions for this.  But as both tnuk and Gorky have said, it really wouldn't work.
El-Man

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« Reply #522 on: 02-04-2014 05:52 »

...makes a stupid joke about pubic libraries...

I know this a meaningless typo, but the context of IAGDL, also a funny one.  laff
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #523 on: 02-04-2014 16:27 »

Heh, unfortunately not a typo, but a reference to an actual, uh, "joke" in the episode:

Beamer

Space Pope
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« Reply #524 on: 02-05-2014 03:29 »

In A Gadda-Da-Leela was an absolute mess for a number of reasons, bad attempts at adult humour notwithstanding. The concept wasn't strong enough to warrant an entire episode to begin with... Maybe a B-plot in a far different episode, but still, surely there were plenty of OTHER Zapp & Leela episode ideas that could've worked better? The fact that the episode made it past the pitch stage is kind of mystifying (I'd probably chalk it up to Groening's insistence, as the evidence suggests he had the concept on the backburner for quite a while), let alone the fact that they made it the first episode out of the gate after Rebirth. no no
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #525 on: 02-05-2014 03:52 »

Yeah, IAGDL was pretty shitty. On my bottom 3 Season 6 episodes.

I seriously wish CC would ban this episode! Because Leela is being used as an object, and I autistically think she deserves to be treated better! And I'm not trying to sound like Kurt!  laff
El-Man

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« Reply #526 on: 02-05-2014 04:02 »

Heh, unfortunately not a typo, but a reference to an actual, uh, "joke" in the episode:

Oh yeah. It's been a while since I watched it...

Because Leela is being used as an object, and I autistically think she deserves to be treated better!

On the brighter side, she did get to beat Zapp up again. And I like to think she did so again after The Zapper's alluded lackluster performance. smile
Beamer

Space Pope
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« Reply #527 on: 02-05-2014 04:04 »

At least she had someone with her throughout the ordeal. roll eyes
DurinsonofDurin

Crustacean
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« Reply #528 on: 02-11-2014 19:55 »

Wait?! Women aren't to be treated as objects?!
Mr Snrub

Urban Legend
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« Reply #529 on: 02-11-2014 22:36 »

The idea of banning an episode is dumb. Dislike it and be offended by it all you want, but don't ruin it for the rest of us.
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #530 on: 02-11-2014 22:45 »

Looks like nobody gets my sense of Sarcasm.  laff
Mr Snrub

Urban Legend
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« Reply #531 on: 02-12-2014 00:02 »

Well. Looks like I may have jumped the dumb gun here. In fairness, identifying sarcasm online is like playing Pictionary with a blind man.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #532 on: 02-12-2014 00:33 »

The idea of banning an episode -unless it is Möbius Dick, of course-  is dumb. Dislike it and be offended by it all you want, but don't ruin it for the rest of us.

Fixed it for you tongue
Mr Snrub

Urban Legend
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« Reply #533 on: 02-12-2014 23:18 »

Ha! I'm moved that you remember my distain for that episode.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #534 on: 02-12-2014 23:19 »

You're welcome.
I'm always glad when I can  help others smile
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #535 on: 02-13-2014 01:27 »

I say we ban people who don't like Möbius Dick. mad
Beamer

Space Pope
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« Reply #536 on: 02-13-2014 02:06 »

I say we ban people who don't like Möbius Dick. mad

Second.

I'd probably rank it just behind Law & Oracle and Reincarnation as the funniest of 6B.
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #537 on: 02-13-2014 03:09 »

Agreed. I mean, it obviously wasn't perfect, but it undoubtedly succeeded in tickling my funny bone.
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #538 on: 02-13-2014 03:29 »

I loved Mobius Dick. Not as much as some of the other Season 6 episodes, but it was definitely one of the highlights of Season 6B. I'd probably rank it right behind Fry Am The Eggman, which was probably my 3rd favorite ep of Season 6B.
DannyJC13

Space Pope
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« Reply #539 on: 02-14-2014 22:40 »

I say we ban people who don't like Möbius Dick. mad

100% AGREE!!!
DurinsonofDurin

Crustacean
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« Reply #540 on: 02-15-2014 10:08 »

If folks on here dislike MB, we should crush them, see them driven before these forums, and hear the lamentations of their women.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #541 on: 02-15-2014 11:06 »
« Last Edit on: 02-15-2014 11:09 »

If folks on here dislike MB,

Möbius Bick? What is that supposed to be? A huge Space Whale bickering to get on everyone's nerves? tongue

See...that episode is so bad that one even cannot remember the initials correctly.
[Stewie Griffin Voice on]
That's how bad it is....that's how bad it is
[Stewie Griffin Voice off]
MeatablePie

Professor
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« Reply #542 on: 02-15-2014 14:18 »

If folks on here dislike MB, we should crush them, see them driven before these forums, and hear the lamentations of their women.

I like Milton Bradley just in case you were wondering.
DurinsonofDurin

Crustacean
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« Reply #543 on: 02-15-2014 22:50 »

If folks on here dislike MB,

Möbius Bick? What is that supposed to be? A huge Space Whale bickering to get on everyone's nerves? tongue

See...that episode is so bad that one even cannot remember the initials correctly.
[Stewie Griffin Voice on]
That's how bad it is....that's how bad it is
[Stewie Griffin Voice off]

You reference Family Guy while this mighty King references Conan the Barbarian. Sit back down in the squalor that surrounds you.

And ere you start crying, let me say this! I never asked for this, no more than I asked to be king. We do not choose our destinies. Yet we must ... we must do our duty, no? Great or small, we must do our duty.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #544 on: 02-16-2014 13:50 »

totalnerduk

DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #545 on: 02-16-2014 16:13 »

If folks on here dislike MB,

Möbius Bick? What is that supposed to be? A huge Space Whale bickering to get on everyone's nerves? tongue

See...that episode is so bad that one even cannot remember the initials correctly.
[Stewie Griffin Voice on]
That's how bad it is....that's how bad it is
[Stewie Griffin Voice off]

You reference Family Guy while this mighty King references Conan the Barbarian. Sit back down in the squalor that surrounds you.

You reference it poorly though. Either you have little appreciation for the context of the line as it was originally delivered, or you didn't quite get that the statement is meant to be one that speaks of the barbarity of the one who utters it. The cold contempt for human life and suffering, combined with only being able to find joy in conquest and power.

I'm going to go with it being a little of both, since you then proceeded to quote Stannis Baratheon from A Song of Ice and Fire, using a line that speaks of a desire not to rule or conquer but to take Kingship as a responsibility (and a reluctant one at that).

Personally, Möbius Dick has grown on me somewhat, and I'm not saying that because I have a topographically unusual penis (as far as I'm aware, it exists in the normal set of dimensions and existential planes that everybody else's does). But I can see what people dislike about it, and really don't feel that it's an indefensible viewpoint.

The one thing that really is indefensible here is either referencing Family Guy, or taking somebody's post seriously when it references Family Guy. I'm not quite sure which one it is though. I suspect that a quantum superposition may be involved and that the answer can never be known.

So. Does anybody actually have any Futurama news, or has this thread finally run the course of its natural life?
Mr Snrub

Urban Legend
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« Reply #546 on: 02-16-2014 22:27 »

If nothing else, I think we can go ahead and remove the spoilers tag.
Box Incorporated

Bending Unit
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« Reply #547 on: 02-17-2014 01:26 »

There's still Simpsorama and the slim possibility that the show will come back again. Highly, highly unlikely, but still possibly...though probably not.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #548 on: 02-23-2014 07:20 »

It is possible that Simpsorama could reveal Futurama to a bigger audience; After all, The Simpsons is much more popular than Futurama and plenty of people still watch it, at least casually. I know people who first discovered Futurama thanks to the BBS ad on The Simpsons Movie DVD; Because that ad was on such a popular movie's home release, it got plenty of viewers and likely attracted many new fans. If the episode leads more people to Futurama, it could once again become popular, meaning that there would be a chance that FOX could reconsider it's cancellation of Futurama, and, while this is a bit of a stretch, they may even bring it back to their own channel.

But, that's all speculation of what could happen. Most of it is unlikely, but we'll have to wait and see just what the aftermath of the special will be. Frankly, I'm assuming it'll be the show's (Futurama's) last production, and after that, the characters will mainly make cameos, but with a series with as many uncancellations, nobody can really be sure.
Beamer

Space Pope
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« Reply #549 on: 02-24-2014 02:12 »

Yeah, I mean, the last Simpsons crossover episode did wonders for The Critic. roll eyes
TheBPB11

Starship Captain
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« Reply #550 on: 02-24-2014 04:02 »

I think that Futurama would click a lot more with Simpsons fans than The Critic did.
Beamer

Space Pope
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« Reply #551 on: 02-24-2014 04:15 »

I think that Futurama would click a lot more with Simpsons fans than The Critic did.

True, but the general public is also far more aware of Futurama now than they were The Critic when it aired.

I actually don't doubt it might help convert a few new fans (if it's any good, of course), but to the extent where it could actually have an influence on any potential Futurama to come? That's a serious long shot. no no
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #552 on: 02-25-2014 00:44 »

What Simpsons fan hasn't heard of Futurama? I'm sure most have given it a chance. It may convert a few, but I wouldn't expect a tidal wave of new fans.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #553 on: 02-25-2014 01:10 »

^Yep.
Most of those being uninterested in Futurama so far will probably not change their mind after a crossover episode.
And I daresay the few who might acutally think "Those guys look funny, let's give that show a chance" can comfortably served with old re-runs.
The shows major chance of resurrection lies imhO right now in appropriate DVD sales, that might spawn some more direct-to-DVD episodes.
Beamer

Space Pope
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« Reply #554 on: 02-25-2014 01:58 »

Replace "dvd sales" with "online streaming revenue," and I agree.
totalnerduk

DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #555 on: 02-25-2014 22:24 »

Replace "dvd sales" with "online streaming revenue," and I agree.

Replace "online streaming revenue" with "combined revenue from DVDs, online streaming, downloads, and other items of physical merchandise", and I agree.
DannyJC13

Space Pope
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« Reply #556 on: 03-06-2014 23:43 »

So I was wondering, do you think they'd release "Simpsorama" as a stand-alone DVD/Blu-ray? I'd hate to have to buy an entire season just for the sake of a single episode.

Perhaps they could put "Simpsorama" on a DVD collection of previous Simpsons episodes that have Futurama references/cameos in, e.g. "Future-Drama", "Bart vs. Lisa vs. the Third Grade", "Love is a Many Strangled Thing", "Holidays of Future Passed", "Beware My Cheating Bart" and "Treehouse of Horror XXIV".

I know they're only extremely small or throwaway cameos/references, but at least they could be used to make a worth-while DVD release for "Simpsorama".
Mr Snrub

Urban Legend
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« Reply #557 on: 03-07-2014 00:24 »

I don't want pay what I imagine will be at least 15 bob for one episode.
Box Incorporated

Bending Unit
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« Reply #558 on: 03-07-2014 01:50 »

When was the last Simpsons mini DVD collection made (last one I can remember is the love one from 2008). Still, there's really not enough Futurama references to warrant a DVD collection around it. Maybe for a collection of the episodes where they go into the future (Lisa's Wedding, Bart to the Future, Holidays of Future Passed), but even that doesn't seem very likely.

If they make another Futurama: The Complete Series set, I'd hope they put the episode in it as a bonus. Really want to make it feel complete.
Beamer

Space Pope
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« Reply #559 on: 03-07-2014 02:21 »

A DVD release for Simpsorama that also featured, maybe, 2 extra Simpsons episodes and 2 extra Futurama episodes would be some nice promotion.

I kind of like DannyJC13's idea of going with episodes of each show that reference the other... For Futurama, they could go with, say, A Big Piece of Garbage and Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences...
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