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SolidSnake
Professor
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Maybe they're actually going to make a spin-off show, perhaps?
Remember when they used to talk about making a Zapp and Kif spin-off, or a Zoidberg and Hermes one? Maybe Matt's trying to do one of those now. Doubtful, but also likely.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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I remember reading Groening interview aaaages ago where he said that, if he were ever to do a third cartoon, he'd like to satirise the music industry and centre it around a struggling band. Though this quote would be a good 10+ years old at this point, so who knows if it's still an idea he's considering.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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I remember in some interview he mused on doing a series about the shallowness of the Rock & Roll scene back in the day but that sound like a theme that would draw about zero interest today. Theme doesn't matter if he can't find writers that can come up with episodes that average people want to watch. Otherwise ratings will tank after a few episodes. He might have a problem making something edgy enough for young audiences and attracting anyone older to even watch a cartoon.
He might have to make another Simpsons movie to create enough industry buzz to attract enough $$$ to make more Groening stuff.
Watched "Free Will Hunting" on CC at 5PM today. They're even editing scenes out of the 22 minute episodes.
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Lost My Phone
Professor
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Here's an interview with Matt Groening from 1999. At some point during it, he mentioned the possibility of doing a show about rock 'n roll. Keep in mind that this was 14 years ago, though.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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I remember in some interview he mused on doing a series about the shallowness of the Rock & Roll scene back in the day but that sound like a theme that would draw about zero interest today.
Broadening up the theme to be about the music industry as a whole in general could work, though even then, it's a totally different industry now to how it was when he first mentioned the idea. I want them to make Three Old Men in a Submarine from the Simpsons DVD commentaries.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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I'm too lazy to read through the thread but is there any rumors of the show getting picked up by another network or by some online thingamajig like netflix/xbox?
Both have been rumoured, nothing is confirmed.
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MuchAdo
Professor
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This interview makes it sound like Cohen is done with the series unless a proper movie will be made in the future. He alludes to the fact that Futurama will continue to pop up in things, like crossovers and (probably) comics and thus is never gone anyway. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/12/03/futurama-final-episode-david-x-cohen-interview_n_4361596.html "It’s been 14 years on and off that we’ve been working on it, and I think everyone is ready to move on. Even if it is done as a series, there are other ways it can make sneak appearances. For example, there’s a “Simpsons"-"Futurama” crossover coming up in the fall of 2014. I think “Futurama” will continue to live on, and pop up like a jack-in-the-box." "... we did the DVD movies, but they had to be done in this certain way so they could be broken up into episodes. We were a little limited in the structure. We could really go nuts with the grand theme if we did a feature film. Another reason it would work to do a film is because “Futurama” looks so great on-screen and lends itself very well to that epic scale. That’s our best option. That said, it’s just you and me gunning for this right now." -DXC
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MuchAdo
Professor
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I concur as well, it makes the most sense.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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Yeah, as much as I'd enjoy one last season, I think a feature film would be an excellent way to go out. My only concern is, any additional Futurama adventure would need to immediately address the fall-out from Meanwhile, and that might be a little alienating to the casual movie-going audience.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Fry's impromptu relationship in TBWABB could have easily been attributed to the fall-out with Leela and Lars in BBS, but they never really indicated accordingly. The Fry/Colleen thing in Billion Backs never really bothered me; I felt like I could puzzle out his motivation for diving so quickly into a relationship after the events of BBS without the film making it explicit. However, Leela's support of the relationship, and her callous behavior towards Fry when he gets dumped ("I also wish you would go away"--like, what is that shit?), has never made sense to me. I wish the writers had made the ramifications of the Lars-is-Fry reveal resonate more in subsequent movies--doing some work with Leela's character to bring her to the point, in Wild Green Yonder, where she realizes she loves Fry--but I understand that Futurama has never really been that kind of show. Still, that's always felt like a kind of missed opportunity to me.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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I think Al Gore's daughter was the one who used to keep track of all the story continuity in the original TV series. When she left for greener (ha!) pastures they didn't replace her and that's when the characters personalities started to wobble so much. Not sure why it did though since most fans noticed right away you'd think the handful of such bright writers wouldn't have a difficult time keeping the basic personalities and background of the characters in mind. They might say that it was necessary for the plot of the episode or a bit in the episode but I can't recall that it often did or it would be sort of go over with a dull thud in the overall story.
Just like the ending of "Meanwhile" opens the door for another reset if the show ever makes another comeback. That would likely mean a few more seasons of tedious ambivalence with the Fry/Leela relationship until the end of that run of episodes. Probably the thing that peeved the fans most was the whole "The Other" thing was just plain old tossed out like it was a one-time joke on the fans. Just makes for a lot of skepticism when Matt and Dave talk about long story arcs and things being planned long in advanced, it just wasn't there in the movies or 2nd run.
I think the short answer might be that they just didn't care about any of it.
Of course you could watch some anime series where there can be so much story continuity over 12 or 13 episodes that if you didn't catch the 1st episode you might not know what is really going one in the following ones.
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transgender nerd under canada
DOOP Ubersecretary
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Actually, I just remembered that they forgot to address the fact that the crew was still on the run from the law in 'Rebirth'. Please disregard my last post, in this case.
Technically, everybody * died. Once they're dead, are all charges dropped? Was Zapp so grateful to the Professor for his rebirth that he simply didn't pursue the matter and made it quietly go away? It would have been nice to have that addressed/resolved in IAGDL. Just a single line would have done to address it. As with so many things, it's an example of the sloppiness that characterises the newer run. That said, it's not a big deal in this particular case. Rebirth isn't any the poorer for that particular failing. It's a small nit to pick, and could easily have been resolved off-screen in several ways. *The Professor sublibed with tribial brain dabblage, I know. But everybody else was killed.
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Tedward
Professor
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Actually, I just remembered that they forgot to address the fact that the crew was still on the run from the law in 'Rebirth'. Please disregard my last post, in this case.
Technically, everybody* died. Once they're dead, are all charges dropped? Was Zapp so grateful to the Professor for his rebirth that he simply didn't pursue the matter and made it quietly go away? It would have been nice to have that addressed/resolved in IAGDL. Just a single line would have done to address it.
There was at least this: after being rebirthed, Amy cheers "We're back in business!" to which Zapp's head inexplicably* responds, "Over my dead body," followed by an "Uh, never mind" once the camera pulls back to reveal that he is still just a head and spinal column. I suppose that could be interpreted as the dropping of the charges, if you really want it to (and I think that's the closest we'll ever get). * Seriously, wasn't he still supposed to be dead, and that's why the Professor needed to bring him and everybody else back to life? It was jarring enough (pun definitely intended) to see Hermes' head still alive and talking for a time without a jar in BBS, and then there's this weirdness. Then again, maybe there was truth in the Professor answering Fry's question about the crew being dead with "No, no, no...much worse." Maybe they really were still technically alive all along?
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Monster_Robot_Maniac
Liquid Emperor
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Of course, then they went on to do that repeatedly and egregiously, and by the time Meanwhile's credits rolled, the willing suspension of disbelief was thinner than government-issued single-ply toilet paper, and I wouldn't have been surprised to see the ACME logo stamped on various background objects.
That's exactly what I was saying yesterday in the Meanwhile thread. There's just a bit too much in the episode that's over-the-top and illogical, even for a comedy television show. Like the scene where Leela's hand is torn off by the giant clam - first of all, how did a huge clam remove a human hand, and second of all, why was it necessary? There's also the Vampire State building - why was that way too cartoony joke even considered for the episode? At least the main aspects of the episode were pretty good, to make up for all the Ren & Stimpy type crap that was tossed in there.
On another note about Rebirth, was the reason why Kiff went back to work for Zapp ever really explained? I thought in ITWGY he abandoned the Nimbus and went with Amy and the PE crew into the Wormhole?
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MuchAdo
Professor
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Unused Episode Idea News. I got this off of Volume 8, and it's too bad the show got canned b/c this would've been an awesome episode.
During the tour of the writers room, a never used plot on a card reads something like: 'In Bender's Plot To Steal God's Treasure; Bender Kills God And Claims Self Defense.'
"He was coming right at me, you saw it!"
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