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LadyBender

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« Reply #440 on: 11-11-2013 14:48 »
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John DiMaggio and Billy West hint at Matt Groening's possible future plans for Futurama or a new show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5ar3vkI_uE

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Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #441 on: 11-11-2013 15:07 »

That's the same thing Billy said in an article while ago. It's probably nothing more than hoping.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #442 on: 11-11-2013 20:54 »

Well, no, John confirms that Matt still seemed as positive at the table read for "Simpsorama" as he did when Billy West's stuff happened, before hand, which is good.

If Matt seemed less optimistic then, it would seem like he had something planned than didn't pan out.

Billy West has also offered up the idea that it's possible that Matt Groening was referring to a new show that he's working on, separate from The Simpsons and Futurama. Whilst I probably would just prefer new Futurama, a new show would be awesome.

All in all, it's the best news we've had in a while.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #443 on: 11-11-2013 20:57 »

Hearing news about Matt making a new program would be very interesting. Seeing as 'The Simpsons' is now a hollow shell of what it once was, and how Futurama has been cancelled yet again, I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case. I'm not getting my hopes up for anything yet, however, as this is pretty much all speculation.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #444 on: 11-11-2013 22:06 »

Maybe they're actually going to make a spin-off show, perhaps?

Remember when they used to talk about making a Zapp and Kif spin-off, or a Zoidberg and Hermes one? Maybe Matt's trying to do one of those now. Doubtful, but also likely.
stum

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« Reply #445 on: 11-11-2013 22:24 »

Zoidberg and Hermes as roommates, perhaps?
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #446 on: 11-11-2013 22:50 »

There's almost certainly no way that it'll be a spin-off.

If Futurama isn't deemed popular enough to be profitable any more, by networks capable of producing it, then I don't see how they're going to justify producing a spin-off of the show that'll be every bit as expensive and won't necessarily come with the pre-established fan-base.


And if it isn't sci-fi, I just can't see myself being even remotely as interested and excited about the project as Futurama. Imagine if Matt had made Futurama first and then turned around and announced a family sitcom. Boring.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #447 on: 11-11-2013 23:43 »

If Matt Greoning did a new show, would would it be?  Just watched the video.  Should give us some hope.



Beamer

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« Reply #448 on: 11-12-2013 04:23 »

I remember reading Groening interview aaaages ago where he said that, if he were ever to do a third cartoon, he'd like to satirise the music industry and centre it around a struggling band. Though this quote would be a good 10+ years old at this point, so who knows if it's still an idea he's considering.
futz
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« Reply #449 on: 11-12-2013 04:32 »

I remember in some interview he mused on doing a series about the shallowness of the Rock & Roll scene back in the day but that sound like a theme that would draw about zero interest today. Theme doesn't matter if he can't find writers that can come up with episodes that average people want to watch. Otherwise ratings will tank after a few episodes. He might have a problem making something edgy enough for young audiences and attracting anyone older to even watch a cartoon.

He might have to make another Simpsons movie to create enough industry buzz to attract enough $$$ to make more Groening stuff.

Watched "Free Will Hunting" on CC at 5PM today. They're even editing scenes out of the 22 minute episodes.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #450 on: 11-12-2013 04:43 »

Here's an interview with Matt Groening from 1999. At some point during it, he mentioned the possibility of doing a show about rock 'n roll. Keep in mind that this was 14 years ago, though.
Beamer

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« Reply #451 on: 11-12-2013 04:45 »

I remember in some interview he mused on doing a series about the shallowness of the Rock & Roll scene back in the day but that sound like a theme that would draw about zero interest today.

Broadening up the theme to be about the music industry as a whole in general could work, though even then, it's a totally different industry now to how it was when he first mentioned the idea.

I want them to make Three Old Men in a Submarine from the Simpsons DVD commentaries. tongue
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #452 on: 11-12-2013 08:40 »

Personally, I'd like to see an animated fantasy sitcom from Groening.
Beamer

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« Reply #453 on: 11-12-2013 09:07 »

Bender's Game was more than enough! cry
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #454 on: 11-12-2013 09:12 »

Bender's Game was more than enough! cry

A sci-fi show doing a shitty fantasy parody doesn't exactly do the genre justice.
Beamer

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« Reply #455 on: 11-12-2013 09:42 »

True. Though I detest fantasy as a genre, so I may be speaking with a little bit of bias here. tongue
Just Fan
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« Reply #456 on: 11-15-2013 14:16 »

No TV Show Has Ever Loved Math as Much as Futurama.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #457 on: 11-18-2013 01:41 »


Well, Cohen seems to be planning about planning something other than Futurama.

Also, if Futurama is part of that Simon Singh's book, I'll definitely read it.
Super Hans

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« Reply #458 on: 11-26-2013 12:56 »

I'm too lazy to read through the thread but is there any rumors of the show getting picked up by another network or by some online thingamajig like netflix/xbox?


Beamer

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« Reply #459 on: 11-26-2013 13:08 »

I'm too lazy to read through the thread but is there any rumors of the show getting picked up by another network or by some online thingamajig like netflix/xbox?

Both have been rumoured, nothing is confirmed.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #460 on: 12-03-2013 23:20 »

This interview makes it sound like Cohen is done with the series unless a proper movie will be made in the future. He alludes to the fact that Futurama will continue to pop up in things, like crossovers and (probably) comics and thus is never gone anyway.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/12/03/futurama-final-episode-david-x-cohen-interview_n_4361596.html

 "It’s been 14 years on and off that we’ve been working on it, and I think everyone is ready to move on. Even if it is done as a series, there are other ways it can make sneak appearances. For example, there’s a “Simpsons"-"Futurama” crossover coming up in the fall of 2014. I think “Futurama” will continue to live on, and pop up like a jack-in-the-box."

 "... we did the DVD movies, but they had to be done in this certain way so they could be broken up into episodes. We were a little limited in the structure. We could really go nuts with the grand theme if we did a feature film. Another reason it would work to do a film is because “Futurama” looks so great on-screen and lends itself very well to that epic scale. That’s our best option. That said, it’s just you and me gunning for this right now."

-DXC
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #461 on: 12-03-2013 23:29 »

Honestly, I agree completely. A film is the only format I'd be excited to see Futurama come to.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #462 on: 12-03-2013 23:33 »

I concur as well, it makes the most sense.
Beamer

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« Reply #463 on: 12-04-2013 01:19 »

Yeah, as much as I'd enjoy one last season, I think a feature film would be an excellent way to go out. My only concern is, any additional Futurama adventure would need to immediately address the fall-out from Meanwhile, and that might be a little alienating to the casual movie-going audience.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #464 on: 12-04-2013 03:01 »

I'd be happiest to see Futurama return as a movie, as well, mainly because the show truly deserves to go out with an amazing bang.
As for the 'Meanwhile' explanation, I'm sure they'd find a worthwhile way to work it into the storyline. They've done things similar to this before and pretty much succeeded, after all.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #465 on: 12-04-2013 03:05 »

...Except that time they didn't. Anyone remember Bender's Big Score? That certainly forgot about TDHAIP. And TBWABB subsequently forgot about BBS.  no no
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #466 on: 12-04-2013 03:09 »

Have you forgotten that I am a master of forgetting moments in the series? Anyways, Good point. Actually, I just remembered that they forgot to address the fact that the crew was still on the run from the law in 'Rebirth'. Please disregard my last post, in this case. hmpf
Beamer

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« Reply #467 on: 12-04-2013 03:13 »

...Except that time they didn't. Anyone remember Bender's Big Score? That certainly forgot about TDHAIP. And TBWABB subsequently forgot about BBS.  no no

The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings didn't exactly end on a cliffhanger, though. It just implied Leela's feelings for Fry had advanced.

But I guess I could see how the character development was highly inconsistent in the dvd movies. Fry's impromptu relationship in TBWABB could have easily been attributed to the fall-out with Leela and Lars in BBS, but they never really indicated accordingly. hmpf

Have you forgotten that I am a master of forgetting moments in the series? Anyways, Good point. Actually, I just remembered that they forgot to address the fact that the crew was still on the run from the law in 'Rebirth'. Please disregard my last post, in this case. hmpf

They were really only on the run from Zapp though, weren't they? Let's just assume everyone suffered a bit of amnesia following the crash and subsequent rebirth, including Zapp himself.
Gorky

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« Reply #468 on: 12-05-2013 20:56 »

Fry's impromptu relationship in TBWABB could have easily been attributed to the fall-out with Leela and Lars in BBS, but they never really indicated accordingly.

The Fry/Colleen thing in Billion Backs never really bothered me; I felt like I could puzzle out his motivation for diving so quickly into a relationship after the events of BBS without the film making it explicit. However, Leela's support of the relationship, and her callous behavior towards Fry when he gets dumped ("I also wish you would go away"--like, what is that shit?), has never made sense to me. I wish the writers had made the ramifications of the Lars-is-Fry reveal resonate more in subsequent movies--doing some work with Leela's character to bring her to the point, in Wild Green Yonder, where she realizes she loves Fry--but I understand that Futurama has never really been that kind of show. Still, that's always felt like a kind of missed opportunity to me.
futz
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« Reply #469 on: 12-05-2013 22:00 »

I think Al Gore's daughter was the one who used to keep track of all the story continuity in the original TV series. When she left for greener (ha!) pastures they didn't replace her and that's when the characters personalities started to wobble so much. Not sure why it did though since most fans noticed right away you'd think the handful of such bright writers wouldn't have a difficult time keeping the basic personalities and background of the characters in mind. They might say that it was necessary for the plot of the episode or a bit in the episode but I can't recall that it often did or it would be sort of go over with a dull thud in the overall story.

Just like the ending of "Meanwhile" opens the door for another reset if the show ever makes another comeback. That would likely mean a few more seasons of tedious ambivalence with the Fry/Leela relationship until the end of that run of episodes. Probably the thing that peeved the fans most was the whole "The Other" thing was just plain old tossed out like it was a one-time joke on the fans. Just makes for a lot of skepticism when Matt and Dave talk about long story arcs and things being planned long in advanced, it just wasn't there in the movies or 2nd run.

I think the short answer might be that they just didn't care about any of it.

Of course you could watch some anime series where there can be so much story continuity over 12 or 13 episodes that if you didn't catch the 1st episode you might not know what is really going one in the following ones.
Box Incorporated

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« Reply #470 on: 12-05-2013 23:20 »

The Annie Award nominations are here. http://annieawards.org/nominees/#7 From what I could tell, the show got 3, for best general animated TV program, Lewis Morton for writing for an animated program, and Paul D. Caulder for best editorial for an animated series.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #471 on: 12-06-2013 04:06 »
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According to Facebook, Mike Rowe, Lewis Morton and Patrick M. Varrone received nominations (for "Game of Tones", "Murder on the Planet Express" and "Saturday Morning Fun Pit", respectively).

Source
totalnerduk

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« Reply #472 on: 12-06-2013 08:14 »

Actually, I just remembered that they forgot to address the fact that the crew was still on the run from the law in 'Rebirth'. Please disregard my last post, in this case. hmpf

Technically, everybody* died. Once they're dead, are all charges dropped? Was Zapp so grateful to the Professor for his rebirth that he simply didn't pursue the matter and made it quietly go away? It would have been nice to have that addressed/resolved in IAGDL. Just a single line would have done to address it. As with so many things, it's an example of the sloppiness that characterises the newer run.

That said, it's not a big deal in this particular case. Rebirth isn't any the poorer for that particular failing. It's a small nit to pick, and could easily have been resolved off-screen in several ways.



*The Professor sublibed with tribial brain dabblage, I know. But everybody else was killed.
Lambda

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« Reply #473 on: 12-06-2013 16:34 »

According to Facebook, Mike Rowe, Lewis Morton and Patrick M. Varrone received nominations (for "Game of Tones", "Murder on the Planet Express" and "Saturday Morning Fun Pit", respectively).

Source

Huh, I wouldn't have thought of Saturday Morning Fun Pit receiving a nomination, especially since Meanwhile was the episode that got a lot of praise here.
Then again, "Yolo" is also on that list.
Fry-Azel

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« Reply #474 on: 12-07-2013 21:13 »

This show needs to come back.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #475 on: 12-07-2013 21:17 »

As I've said before, Although I would definitely like it if the show was picked up again, I honestly think it'd be best if it truly, finally ended here. I wouldn't want to see the show degenerate into a shell of it's former self the way the Simpsons has, as it would be somewhat depressing, in a hard-to-explain way. Plus, I feel like Meanwhile wrapped everything up perfectly; Fry and Leela finally became a full-out couple, and even though they won't remember what happened in the frozen universe, at least we'll know that they can go back and continue their typical lives without being lonely (As Fry was in said Frozen Universe).
Tedward

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« Reply #476 on: 12-09-2013 18:57 »

Actually, I just remembered that they forgot to address the fact that the crew was still on the run from the law in 'Rebirth'. Please disregard my last post, in this case. hmpf

Technically, everybody* died. Once they're dead, are all charges dropped? Was Zapp so grateful to the Professor for his rebirth that he simply didn't pursue the matter and made it quietly go away? It would have been nice to have that addressed/resolved in IAGDL. Just a single line would have done to address it.

There was at least this: after being rebirthed, Amy cheers "We're back in business!" to which Zapp's head inexplicably* responds, "Over my dead body," followed by an "Uh, never mind" once the camera pulls back to reveal that he is still just a head and spinal column. I suppose that could be interpreted as the dropping of the charges, if you really want it to (and I think that's the closest we'll ever get).

*Seriously, wasn't he still supposed to be dead, and that's why the Professor needed to bring him and everybody else back to life? It was jarring enough (pun definitely intended) to see Hermes' head still alive and talking for a time without a jar in BBS, and then there's this weirdness. Then again, maybe there was truth in the Professor answering Fry's question about the crew being dead with "No, no, no...much worse." Maybe they really were still technically alive all along?
totalnerduk

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« Reply #477 on: 12-09-2013 19:14 »

The movies and the second run were vastly more reliant on "cartoon physics" than the original series. Talking heads without jars bothered me a little in BBS, but by the time Rebirth aired, I suppose that my expectations had been sufficiently adjusted: I simply rolled my eyes and accepted that Futurama had just made a really cheap joke that stretched the willing suspension of disbelief further than usual.

Of course, then they went on to do that repeatedly and egregiously, and by the time Meanwhile's credits rolled, the willing suspension of disbelief was thinner than government-issued single-ply toilet paper, and I wouldn't have been surprised to see the ACME logo stamped on various background objects.

Since Zapp did seem intent on pursuing the crew to justice and yet nothing happened after the events of Rebirth to indicate their status as wanted criminals, I have to wonder if perhaps no formal charges even applied, and he'd simply been mindlessly gunning for revenge up until Farnsworth was kind enough to rebirth him. At which point I imagine he would give up and move on to targets less likely to have the capability to fight back so effectively.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #478 on: 12-09-2013 21:42 »

Of course, then they went on to do that repeatedly and egregiously, and by the time Meanwhile's credits rolled, the willing suspension of disbelief was thinner than government-issued single-ply toilet paper, and I wouldn't have been surprised to see the ACME logo stamped on various background objects.
That's exactly what I was saying yesterday in the Meanwhile thread. There's just a bit too much in the episode that's over-the-top and illogical, even for a comedy television show. Like the scene where Leela's hand is torn off by the giant clam - first of all, how did a huge clam remove a human hand, and second of all, why was it necessary? There's also the Vampire State building - why was that way too cartoony joke even considered for the episode? At least the main aspects of the episode were pretty good, to make up for all the Ren & Stimpy type crap that was tossed in there.

On another note about Rebirth, was the reason why Kiff went back to work for Zapp ever really explained? I thought in ITWGY he abandoned the Nimbus and went with Amy and the PE crew into the Wormhole?
MuchAdo

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« Reply #479 on: 12-14-2013 04:37 »

Unused Episode Idea News.
I got this off of Volume 8, and it's too bad the show got canned b/c this would've been an awesome episode.

During the tour of the writers room, a never used plot on a card reads something like:
'In Bender's Plot To Steal God's Treasure; Bender Kills God And Claims Self Defense.'

"He was coming right at me, you saw it!"
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