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PEE Poll: How was this episodo?
1/10 Mike Rowe shat on this   -2 (2.4%)
2/10 Just kill this show already!   -0 (0%)
3/10 I blame Zoidberg for such an episode!   -1 (1.2%)
4/10 Not good at all.   -2 (2.4%)
5/10 Wait, what was this?   -2 (2.4%)
6/10 Mehh   -0 (0%)
7/10 Pretty good   -4 (4.9%)
8/10 Good!   -7 (8.5%)
9/10 Rowe did this...?   -27 (32.9%)
10/10 Futurama Reversed the Shark!   -37 (45.1%)
Total Voters: 82

Beamer

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« Reply #160 on: 08-22-2013 02:47 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2013 02:48 »

I just looked through them, and there was a 1/5 review from somebody called "Beamer", which seemed pretty contradictory to what the PEELer has said here.

My review is on page 5, I gave it 5 points.

Whoever posted that second review under my name on page 8 wasn't me.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #161 on: 08-22-2013 02:52 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2013 08:22 »

That's what I thought. There's yet another reason why the CGEF reviews are flawed.

Shame on you, Beamer's impersonator. Shame on you. no no

EDIT: There's also a "Mr. Tiny Snrub" out there as well, and the score has dropped to 89%
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #162 on: 08-22-2013 03:13 »
« Last Edit on: 08-22-2013 03:17 »

Shame on you for so cleverly twisting my post into a catchphrase. Shame on You. no no

....or maybe I should shame myself for making such an easily twisted post?
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #163 on: 08-22-2013 03:21 »

Yep, your post has really caught on.

Fame on you, Monster_Robot_Maniac. Fame on you.
Meerkat54

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« Reply #164 on: 08-22-2013 13:58 »

"And thus a new meme was born on this day.."
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #165 on: 08-22-2013 16:37 »

We shall  annually celebrate this day from now on. We shall call it 'Shame Day'
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #166 on: 08-22-2013 22:46 »
« Last Edit on: 08-23-2013 01:54 »

EDIT: There's also a "Mr. Tiny Snrub" out there as well, and the score has dropped to 89%
I noticed that. Also a Danny 1 review now. Whoever the 1 spammer is, they lurk around here....
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« Reply #167 on: 08-23-2013 02:39 »

Is it me, maybe?
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #168 on: 08-23-2013 02:43 »

Is it me, maybe?
Shut up, yah fildy crahb!
DannyJC13

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« Reply #169 on: 08-23-2013 13:57 »

What the?! Who submitted that review? Not cool. frown
Beamer

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« Reply #170 on: 08-23-2013 14:06 »

A very dick-ish move indeed. I wish CGEF required registration in order to post reviews.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #171 on: 08-25-2013 19:26 »
« Last Edit on: 08-25-2013 20:23 »

I gave it a 9/10 because of the plotholes.

But even ignoring those, it was still a pretty good ep, at least before the ending. The ending was, admit it, something we all saw coming.  tongue And was played out quite nicely.
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« Reply #172 on: 08-27-2013 05:30 »
« Last Edit on: 08-29-2013 03:21 »

9/10

For a chance i really enjoyed this..  its like they wanted to fix the ginormous screw-up Bender's big score was in treating Fry's dissapearance (yes i know in BBS they say the code doesnt create paradoxes).. again returning to Futurama roots and dealing once for all with Fry's questions about what happent after his dissapearance.. nice touch using Nibbler and the Nibblonians to fix that and was nice the brief interaction of the characters with the family (alltought too brief and irrelevant)..
Also liked Fry being his old self.. i mean this is the Fry i renember best of the first season... before they turned him into not much than a senseless buffon.. when the professor said "the memory is from 31th december 1999" and Fry begins to talk i was especting some joke like "oh .. i dont renember that date".. but he went straight to the point.. as i said before i enjoy more the episodes where the crew and specially the 3 main characters are smarter like they were in the first episodes

Could have been better i think but is still really good nontheless.. if i dont give this a 9 i really dont what i would give (apart from the best classics).

EDIT:

Oh i forgot and took me 2 days to renember..

Now i cant change my score.. but when i did this review i had totally forgotten about the Shazam joke... i would give this a 8/10 lowering a full point just for that .... what the frak is this? product placement? because when he was about to say Shazam i was especting him to say other name or some joke directed at mobile phones capacity.. but no.. Shazam it was... one point that goes..
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« Reply #173 on: 08-30-2013 11:46 »

I logged into this site just to express my opinion that this may be the best written episode of an Animated Series of all time, not just Futurama.  I'll try to keep it short, but still express my point.

In TLPJF and JB, Fry is Angry the whole episode.  He feels forgotten, or he wants his dog back.  He's mad that life went on without him, and he wants it back.  That said, TLPJF ends really well, but to me, JB is just unnecessarily sad.

The GoT, Fry spends the entire episode to get just 2 more seconds with his Mom to tell her something (presumably, I love and miss you) but constantly gets interrupted.  It goes on for the whole episode against the Nibbler plot.  In the end, Fry *FINALLY* gets those two seconds to say "Mom...I love you."  And he just can't.  He doesn't say a darn thing.

It's the first time I've noticed in all the emo episodes that Fry is allowed to actually miss his past.  And come on.  He can't even utter a word.

Amazing.
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« Reply #174 on: 08-30-2013 12:00 »


The GoT, Fry spends the entire episode to get just 2 more seconds with his Mom to tell her something (presumably, I love and miss you) but constantly gets interrupted.  It goes on for the whole episode against the Nibbler plot.  In the end, Fry *FINALLY* gets those two seconds to say "Mom...I love you."  And he just can't.  He doesn't say a darn thing.

It's the first time I've noticed in all the emo episodes that Fry is allowed to actually miss his past.  And come on.  He can't even utter a word.


Well i understand that he does say all he wants after the hug.. we just dont see it
cnaps
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« Reply #175 on: 08-30-2013 12:14 »

Thats the beauty JL - the writers know the audience doesn't need to - its utterly brilliant
SolidSnake

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« Reply #176 on: 08-30-2013 20:11 »

In the Animatic, the Shizaam scene was actually funny, and involved a "Bender is Great" joke. Wish they just kept it that way, instead of ruining it the way they did.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #177 on: 08-30-2013 22:14 »

In the Animatic, the Shizaam scene was actually funny, and involved a "Bender is Great" joke. Wish they just kept it that way, instead of ruining it the way they did.

It'll probably make it into the deleted scenes in animatic form on the DVD/Blu-ray. smile
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #178 on: 09-05-2013 19:37 »
« Last Edit on: 09-06-2013 00:55 »

Watched this episode last night.   It was really good.   We got a glimpse of Fry's past during that fateful day.  And it was cute how Fry wanted to talk to his mother.  Liked how Leela, Bender, and the others came into Fry's dream.  

The musical tone turned out to be a car alarm that a friend of Nibbler's had!  Really awesome episode!  Fry's mother really did love him.  Although sports were always a first priority!   This episode reminded me of Close Encounters of a Third Kind.


5/5
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« Reply #179 on: 09-07-2013 09:07 »

I have to say, since this was actually the first episode I have watched out of season 7 (for reasons beyond my control), this episode was...amazing. I had read online good stuff about this (it is nearly impossible to live spoiler-free in this day and age), so i was pleasantly surprised with how right everyone was. It did set the bar really high for the rest of 7b though, many of which I haven't even watched yet.

It had the overall Close Encounters reference going on, which I found spectacular because personally that is one of my favorite books/movies. It had heart with Fry wanting to spend more time with his family. Brought back Noticeably F.A.T. because we didn't get enough of him the first time. Was hilarious through and through. Added even MORE intrigue to the cryogenics pilot scene, which at this point has become sort of the "grassy knoll" of the series. The whole ship being a foot tall because it belonged to the Nibblonians was a ridiculously awesome cheat on the show, and I don't think anyone saw that coming. And of course the ending scene, with Fry's Mom actually being the one who was dreaming, was so...sweet and nice. We've had touching moments of Fry with his brother, and sort of with his father if you count Cold Warriors; so this was well needed, even if we didn't realize it.

Perfect, perfect all around, wouldn't change a thing! A whopping enthusiastic 10/10!!! big grin love
totalnerduk

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« Reply #180 on: 09-07-2013 16:25 »

I don't get why people love this so much. It was a decent episode of Futurama, but there was a lot that felt forced and quite a bit that fell flat. For me, that means it stops far short of greatness.

The opening is great. A nice sense of epic, far-reaching menace and impending doom is built up, and we get the feeling that this is going to be good. Then, we get the Professor mangling "Good news, everybody".

Personally, I hate when the writers try to switch up an established catchphrase like that. He should have just said "Good news, everybody!" like he's done many times before. There's just no need for shitty gimmicks like that. Especially with the show closing out its run.

Then we get the terrible music-finding-app joke. Even the animatic version (which was a little better) is still a shitty reference to modern life. Fry was frozen in 1999, and civilisation has fallen and been rebuilt several times since in the intervening years. The modern-era references are all either anachronisms or outright continuity errors in my book. That's leaving out the possibility of this one having been actual product placement (and I'm still not entirely convinced it wasn't. It just felt like it had no place there).

The next scene had something I liked - the Professor's holographic head. The "thought spike" joke made me laugh. Right up until they decided to actually show the use of a thought spike. Futurama used to be subtle. Does anybody remember that? There used to be as much of the Futuramaverse that was unseen as seen. Even if we'd just seen a box of them, labelled "thought spikes", it would still have been a relatively subtle gag. But no, Futurama's audience now apparantly needs to be bashed over the head with the smallest of jokes, lest they not appreciate that the writers have said something funny and that they are supposed to laugh. roll eyes

It's stuff like this that feels forced, and made the episode lose a certain something in my eyes.

The skipping of thirteen days during minutes of dream-time was also awful, as was "dream pants".

Fry's interactions with his family were okay. Nothing special. His suddenly-rediscovered love for them felt a little out of character though, as did his sudden burning need to have some more time with his mother (especially since we see that as Lars in BBS, Fry didn't have a hell of a lot more appreciation for his family than he had before his freezing). Yancy Sr. was the best thing about that entire segment.

Old New York's streets were pretty good (though there was a little less detail than in the pilot. A few more background jokes/sight gags wouldn't have gone amiss. That sort of subtlety had always been a strength of Futurama).

The Close Encounters parody was just... meh. Something about that just felt cheap. Possibly because it was so obvious. Plus, I've never felt that a close parody has been Futurama's strong point. They're at their best with oblique references. Then again, I suppose that they've abandoned subtlety. Nuance is dead.

The alien ship on top of Applied Cryogenics should maybe have had some sort of cloaking device. The broken windscreen irritated me, too. It's going back into space! Can Nibblonians breathe vacuum?

There was, to cut this even shorter, a lot that I felt was wrong with this episode, or badly done. The "emotional" component just didn't ring true to what we know of Fry or his family for me, either. It felt like an obvious, blatant attempt to paper over the cracks in the episode by tugging clumsily at heartstrings. I'm surprised (and disappointed in other fans) that it worked, and it feels... hollow. Robbed of the core that it should have had in order to resonate strongly and have any actual impact on me. The core that was present in episodes like TLOTF, TKOS, and JB. In fact, the previously-unmentioned strong emotional connection implied with such anviliciousness reminded me of the series' previous attempt to do something like that... Cold Warriors. I didn't much care for that blatant and failed attempt at emotional manipulation either.

7/10, and I'm being generous because I liked a few of the little touches like miniaturising Seymour, photos of/including Fry around his parents' bed, and the street signs in Old New York.

Seriously, are people that shallow and easily-manipulated that they'll go gooey over this stuff without noticing that it's got some pretty glaring faults? I guess so. Colour me disappointed.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #181 on: 09-07-2013 17:42 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2013 17:48 »

Depends what's interpreted as a fault, to be honest. Most of what you mentioned is kind of like "Oh, that really pretty girl has a bread crumb on her chin" (okay, that was a pretty shitty example). It's the kind of stuff that I don't adore by any stretch of the imagination, but don't really care about enough to tick off as a fault.

Honestly, this episode could've had a vastly different conclusion and I still would've loved it, so in my case it's not the emotional aspect brainwashing me. I thought it was sweet; nothing more, nothing less.

Also, what was the "Good News Everyone" variation? I can't quite remember it.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #182 on: 09-07-2013 20:12 »

Depends what's interpreted as a fault, to be honest. Most of what you mentioned is kind of like "Oh, that really pretty girl has a bread crumb on her chin" (okay, that was a pretty shitty example). It's the kind of stuff that I don't adore by any stretch of the imagination, but don't really care about enough to tick off as a fault.

I'm a picky bastard. I have exacting and staggeringly unfair standards.

Also, what was the "Good News Everyone" variation? I can't quite remember it.

"I don't know if you've heard the news, but it's good, everyone!"

I dislike that. Enough stuff like that in a single episode really does annoy me. By themselves, little moments like that wouldn't normally stand out as faults to me. But lots of them in a single episode adds up to the point where each and every one of them stands out as a glaring fault. It's a pretty girl with an entire pie caught in her beard.
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« Reply #183 on: 09-07-2013 20:35 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2013 20:38 »

I think it was something like, I have news everyone, and it's good! I don't quite remember.

There might have a been a tad more leadup than was necessary to the final ending (I NEED to tell my mom something, that sort of thing), but I thought the twist of his mom actually dreaming about him was touching, because up til now we've only seen her mostly as this raging sports fanatic. It's nice to know that deep down there really was a lot of love in his family.

edit: Ah, I see tnuk got the line right. I have a question then. What did you think of when he said: "The Bible is the real Good News" from seasons ago? I found that hilarious laff
totalnerduk

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« Reply #184 on: 09-07-2013 20:50 »

I have a question then. What did you think of when he said: "The Bible is the real Good News" from seasons ago? I found that hilarious laff

That was funny. It wasn't quite the same thing. It was a much more nuanced joke, in context. I liked it then, and I still do.
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #185 on: 09-07-2013 20:54 »

It makes sense that the Professor would mess up the 'good news everyone' quote in that episode, too, as it's an alternate version of himslef saying it.

I don't mind it that much when they change up a common catchphrase; I think it's more fun to hear a new version of an old saying instead of just the same old saying again.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #186 on: 09-07-2013 21:14 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2013 21:15 »

I don't mind it that much when they change up a common catchphrase; I think it's more fun to hear a new version of an old saying instead of just the same old saying again.

I suppose that my main gripe with it is that it feels too much like ostentatious lampshade hanging for no other reason than its own sake. Instead of just having the character say his or her catchphrase, they're having them call attention to the fact that it's their catchphrase, making it seem less like something that they occasionally say, and more like a minor obsession on the part of that character. It's anvilicious, it's a cheap trick that's used to appeal to an unsophisticated audience (stuff like catching something incredibly obvious, for example "oh! That's because his catchphrase is that other thing!" makes stupid people feel smarter) and it should be beneath the Futurama writing team. Or anybody who writes for a show with an intended audience over age ten, really. It's an obvious gimmick, and I really dislike that Futurama's staff felt that they were in a place where they should or had to use an obvious gimmick.

Hm. Maybe tvtropes has ruined me, or ruined my enjoyment of certain things in television. Or it might just be that as time goes by, I increasingly prefer my entertainment in written form (I find it a lot easier to immerse myself in a book and ignore the use of various tropes and narrative devices in that format than I do when watching television).

Ah, I see tnuk got the line right.

Having thought about that, I am mildly irritated that you thought for a second I wouldn't. tongue
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #187 on: 09-07-2013 21:46 »

I don't feel it really differs from actual catchphrase as repeated using or making it obvious. I couldn't hear that same catchphrase in every episode, but this kind of variant, with changing it to more complicated version, is enjoyable. It fits well in dialog typical to Futurama and I also like how it's pointing Professor's inability to hear to that point. I would say it's good writing. Shoot me.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #188 on: 09-07-2013 22:04 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2013 22:32 »

Shoot me.



I would say it's good writing.

It's anvilicious lampshade hanging via a cheap gimmick. How does that constitute good writing?
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #189 on: 09-07-2013 22:22 »

Well, as much as frequently repeated one-line catchphrase without much meaningful content can be, by what I already said.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #190 on: 09-07-2013 22:35 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2013 22:53 »

As long as you don't ask me to shoot you again. Spending almost half an hour on eleven frames seems like a lot more effort than the final .gif was worth. tongue

EDIT: There's also a "Mr. Tiny Snrub" out there as well, and the score has dropped to 89%
I noticed that. Also a Danny 1 review now. Whoever the 1 spammer is, they lurk around here....

Apparently somebody gave it a 1-point review under the name "another totalnerduk" as well. Just for the record, I gave it three points, and my review is #79. I didn't realise I'd been impersonated until it was pointed out to me a few minutes ago. Now I feel somewhat violated. There is only one of me on the entire internet!
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« Reply #191 on: 09-07-2013 23:45 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2013 23:46 »

Maybe it's a totalnerduk from the future, in which case one of you is about to be destroyed shifty

Re: calling attention to the joke. I hate that too, when it seems forced. This did not to me anyway seem that way. It was a spin on his usual phrase, and I found it delightful. In the same way that Amy said, "I forgot you could talk!" when Nibbler started talking laff It's when they do jokes and THEN explain the joke in a way like, "Oh, that's funny because x and y! Hahaha!" that I get extremely pestered.

Also, I just presumed you got the line right tnuk. It could have been utter hogwash (I think this is the first time I have used that word here, hehe), because I only saw the episode once and had no way of checking it...unless of course I did a 2 second internet search, but what do I look like, a girl who's not lazy?!? tongue
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #192 on: 09-07-2013 23:55 »

What's often the problem with catchphrases in long running shows is often they're referenced more than they're actually used. I love a good "heh, doesn't he say THIS all the time" gag, but no more than a couple of times in the entire show. Not EVERY time it's time for the line.
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« Reply #193 on: 09-08-2013 09:35 »

It makes sense that the Professor would mess up the 'good news everyone' quote in that episode, too, as it's an alternate version of himslef saying it.

Nice bit of self-reference there, MRM!
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #194 on: 09-09-2013 04:04 »

It makes sense that the Professor would mess up the 'good news everyone' quote in that episode, too, as it's an alternate version of himslef saying it.

Nice bit of self-reference there, MRM!
Hmmwha? Are you Implying that I, Monster Robot Maniac, Could be an alternate version of that grand old professor? Ehehehehehehe!

Anyhow, Good News Everyone! IMDB.Com has given this adventure an 8.1 out of 10! I would complain about what a bunch of Asinine Morons they are for not giving it at least a 9.5 out of 10, But I am already in my pajamas....
Fnord
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« Reply #195 on: 09-09-2013 08:58 »

It makes sense that the Professor would mess up the 'good news everyone' quote in that episode, too, as it's an alternate version of himslef saying it.

Nice bit of self-reference there, MRM!
Hmmwha? Are you Implying that I, Monster Robot Maniac, Could be an alternate version of that grand old professor? Ehehehehehehe!

No. You pointed out that the Professor messed up the quote, and you messed up your post mentioning that fact by misspelling "himself".
Monster_Robot_Maniac

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« Reply #196 on: 09-11-2013 01:17 »

It makes sense that the Professor would mess up the 'good news everyone' quote in that episode, too, as it's an alternate version of himslef saying it.

Nice bit of self-reference there, MRM!
Hmmwha? Are you Implying that I, Monster Robot Maniac, Could be an alternate version of that grand old professor? Ehehehehehehe!

No. You pointed out that the Professor messed up the quote, and you messed up your post mentioning that fact by misspelling "himself".
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Beamer

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« Reply #197 on: 09-11-2013 05:19 »

You did it all yourslef, MRM. no no
imdcathsmeow

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« Reply #198 on: 11-06-2013 04:51 »

I teared up big time on the ending. Think about it.. Fry getting to hug his mom in her dream before saying goodbye. Fry lost his family and it's just so sad. Sometimes I forget Futurama isn't just a comedy. It can be a tearjerker too.

Futurama makes you come for the comedy, but stay for the heart.

Finding out the ship made those tones was kinda anti-climactic for me but who cares? The ending was so beautiful and emotional and that just makes up for it.

10/10.

:')



stephenc644

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« Reply #199 on: 11-24-2013 20:30 »

So, I watched this episode last night and its plot holes and failed emotional ending couldn't be overlooked for me. It's probably the most overrated episode of Season 7 to be honest.
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