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PEE Poll: How was this episodo?
1/10 Mike Rowe shat on this   -2 (2.4%)
2/10 Just kill this show already!   -0 (0%)
3/10 I blame Zoidberg for such an episode!   -1 (1.2%)
4/10 Not good at all.   -2 (2.4%)
5/10 Wait, what was this?   -2 (2.4%)
6/10 Mehh   -0 (0%)
7/10 Pretty good   -4 (4.9%)
8/10 Good!   -7 (8.5%)
9/10 Rowe did this...?   -27 (32.9%)
10/10 Futurama Reversed the Shark!   -37 (45.1%)
Total Voters: 82

SolidSnake

Professor
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« on: 08-15-2013 03:57 »
« Last Edit on: 09-08-2013 18:34 »

The first act was pretty good. Pretty much what I'd expect from a New Episode. I hate how the shizaam scene is altered.  frown

Don't know what to make of the second act. Fry just wanting to talk to his mom out of the blue was odd. But still pretty enjoyable. And everybody coming in the dream, was......awesome! I love how it began and played out. The perfect fan treat right there. And I'm really mad they didn't keep the Prince song in the montage, let alone keep the full montage I remember seeing in the animatic. The animatic montage was so much better than this one. This one was still pretty good though.

The third act was good. I liked how everything was resolved, but not the way it was resolved. I found it kind of stupid, and full of plotholes and errors. Mount shush-more was a funny sight gag. I liked the ending. It was sweet. It wasn't exactly tear-busting in my opinion, but it had me at 75% awwe, and was really great overall. Better attempt at having a nice ending than past episodes of Season 6-7.

I really loved this episode, and would say it deserves a 9/10, due to some of the big plot-hole issues at the ending, and a couple of fall-flat jokes. (Yes, I'm looking at you Shizaam.)
Solid Gold Bender

Urban Legend
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« Reply #1 on: 08-15-2013 04:07 »

Mike Rowe is starting to surprise me.
FutureMike17

Bending Unit
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« Reply #2 on: 08-15-2013 04:08 »

First act was very interesting, cant wait to see the rest.
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #3 on: 08-15-2013 04:21 »

I liked that Family Guy = crazy stuff. Very, very intersting plot.
Just Fan
Starship Captain
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« Reply #4 on: 08-15-2013 04:26 »

You can't dump fry! That's my job! big grin

Great episode.

10/10.
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #5 on: 08-15-2013 04:31 »

I liked this episode! The ending was sweet. It wasn't exactly tear-busting in my opinion, but it was sweet, and could make some cry.
GedeWK

Bending Unit
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« Reply #6 on: 08-15-2013 04:31 »

Damn i was in school right now (my time is 10.30 AM) cant wait for rewindimg my tv!
Kornography

Bending Unit
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« Reply #7 on: 08-15-2013 04:33 »

I was kind of disappointed with this episode. It wasn't bad or anything, but I guess I thought it would be "that episode", but in the end it was just another good episode.

8/10
MuchAdo

Professor
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« Reply #8 on: 08-15-2013 04:35 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2013 06:24 »

The pace was faster here, like in the older BIG event episodes and the jokes were good.
Each and every character that appeared got at least one really good joke in before it got serious at the end.

Yes, I cried at the end.
It's now... only the 3RD time the show has done this to me.
Fry and his Mom both getting real closure through a dream that Fry's Mom actually 1000+ years ago was touching.

Mike Rowe's masterpiece.

10/10.
tyraniak

Urban Legend
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« Reply #9 on: 08-15-2013 04:36 »

Not as touching as past emotional episodes, but still enjoyed the ending
coffeeBot

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #10 on: 08-15-2013 04:42 »

It wasn't perfect, but I cried. Like a little baby. Also, can we talk about how the song that they used at the end is an exceptionally beautiful song by one of my favorite artists?!?

Imy

Bending Unit
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« Reply #11 on: 08-15-2013 04:49 »

I'm incredibly impressed with this episode - the final reveal I cried like a lunatic. Everything was perfect in my eyes. Just... thank you again, Futurama!

10/10
FutureMike17

Bending Unit
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« Reply #12 on: 08-15-2013 04:51 »

I thought this episode was great. It had an interesting and good plot but I felt like it could of been a little better. I liked the ending because, like SolidSnake said, everything was resolved. The ending was sad/emotional but I didn't find it as sad/emotional as Jurassic Bark.

Overall it was a great episode but I think all the previews set my hopes too high. I gave it a 9/10
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #13 on: 08-15-2013 04:56 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2013 05:02 »

I have to say, this episode was heaped full of fan service, and I loved it. It had a futuristic premise, a decent stream of gags (I particularly liked Mt. Shushmore big grin) and a well-written story that was fairly touching. The plotline with Fry's mother (who I wish had a name; I can't stand calling her "Mrs. Fry"  hmpf ) was admittedly a bit predictable. I'll let that slide though, since this is only the second time Futurama has dug into the dreams and it's certainly nothing like "The Sting".

One thing I really liked was how the story didn't lessen the sadness/emotion spawned from "Jurassic Bark" and "The Luck of the Fryrish" by screwing with the timeline (BBS style) or cheapening Seymour's tragic departure. In fact, I loved how Seymour was what made Fry suddenly realise that he did in fact miss his old life. It felt like a nod to the many who consider "Jurassic Bark" to be one of the best episodes of the show.

Also, this episode only adds to the sheer amount of craziness that occured in that famous cryogenics lab on December 31st, 1999. It's undoubtedly my favourite recurring location on the show because of all the excellent stories it produces.

I won't say this was the funniest of the season, but I was giggling on more than a few occasions which puts it ahead of the likes of "Calcuon 2.0" and "T.: The Terriestrial" by default. Most of my enjoyment of this episode came from general entertainment as opposed to sheer laughter. And boy, was it entertaining. I particularly liked everything on the way to the cryogenics lab, such as Fry's reactions to some of the repeated lines. "I.C Weiner? Aw, crud. Every time!"  big grin

But yes, that's probably enough typing for now. Other stuff I loved:

-Agnew with no pants.  tongue
-"Philip, have you lost weight?"
-"It's the sound the game makes when you get the all-time lowest score..."
-Michelle being a bitch and Leela pushing him into leaving her.
-The luxury Vehicle Bender asked for was amazing.
-"I always forget he can talk" Finally, some acknowledgement that Nibbler's been MIA for so long.
-Seymour shrinking into Fry's pocket was neat.

I'll be holding off voting for now, but I'm suspecting this is my favourite episode of season 7. First impression says 10/10. They've really been kicking it off these past few episodes; lets hope the quality continues.

One other thing: didn't Eric Rogers say at one point that he'd like there to be an episode where the Planet Express crew go to Fry's past? Because this is basically that.
Box Incorporated

Bending Unit
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« Reply #14 on: 08-15-2013 05:14 »

Mike Rowe...you did it, you made an episode not only good all the way through, but really freaking good all the way through. I didn't cry like I was promised, but it was still a really, really great episode, and I'm glad you managed to make this before the show was cancelled. Mike, I salute you.

Now, what I can I actually say about this episode that made me really like it. Seriously, I can't think of anything...God damn you school for making me tired. I'll try to make it short. Seeing Fry trying to relive his final day with his family was great. The Nibblonian plot, while not really epic and canon changing like the Original Run episodes, was still a pretty good twist for the episode and gave it a classic feel to it. Having the crew enter the dream and interact with people from Fry's past was really funny and interesting to watch (Bender and Nixon with Fry's dad, Leela talking to Michelle again as Fry's girlfriend, the carriage).

And for the ending, while it didn't make me cry like past episodes have, I'll admit it was at least sweet. It could've been better if they had Fry interact with his mom a lot more before hand in the dream, or at least have given a few flashbacks in it of Fry's mom ignoring/not talking to Fry in the past or had a longer ending of Fry talking to his Mom's dream/a montage of Mom missing Fry after he got frozen. Or even just give Fry's Mom a few more personality traits outside of being a sports lover and simply loving Fry like what Cold Warriors did for Fry's Dad, just give her something more to her. Still, I'm happy with it, just could've used a little more to warrant it.

Overall, did this live up to my expectations. Not exactly, but it still managed to do a plot about Fry's dream well, had a good amount of laughs, good pacing, good use of the crew, a sweet ending, and was overall a nice final look into Fry's past.

Overall: 9/10, both for the poll, and my complete score.

And now, because absolutely no one requested it, here is what would've been my poll captions: 1/10 This Episodeís a Nightmare. Itís a Nightmare and I Canít Wake Up! 2/10 I Canít Stand Seeing You Watch This Crap. Please Wake Up Leela, Please, Wake Up. 3/10 A Good Mike Rowe Episode. Ha, In Your Dreams. 4/10 I Had a Dream, of Watching an Emotional Episode This Season. And This is What I Get. 5/10 Iím Still In a Dream, Solid Snake Eater (snort). 6/10 Seth and Seymour: Dream Team Bros. 7/10 How I Wet Your Mother. 8/10 A Good Mike Rowe Episode. Good God, Dreams Really Do Come True. 9/10 Inception 10/10 The Sting

See you all at Stench and Stenchibility, goodnight everybody, I miss you Chevy.
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #15 on: 08-15-2013 05:32 »

I think we can assume Nibbler already told Fry about how he was responsible for Fry coming to the future, because there wasn't as much as a flinch when Nibbler mentioned it.
coffeeBot

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #16 on: 08-15-2013 05:41 »

I think we can assume Nibbler already told Fry about how he was responsible for Fry coming to the future, because there wasn't as much as a flinch when Nibbler mentioned it.

Yes? That's old news.
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #17 on: 08-15-2013 05:44 »

I think we can assume Nibbler already told Fry about how he was responsible for Fry coming to the future, because there wasn't as much as a flinch when Nibbler mentioned it.

Yes? That's old news.

I don't think it is. Has there ever been anything to suggest that Fry knew about Nibbler's involvement? He did get his memory wiped, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't ever brought up again after "The Why of Fry".
GedeWK

Bending Unit
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« Reply #18 on: 08-15-2013 05:47 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2013 05:48 »

My tears almost gone down in this scene.... It's really touching my feelings cry anyone?

By the way, 10/10.Great episode.
pumpkinpie

Starship Captain
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« Reply #19 on: 08-15-2013 05:53 »

I'm crying. Yep. Like a baby. I LOVED this episode, it made me laugh, it made me cry, and that giant spaceship playing those tones was actually pretty cool.

10/10
Solid Gold Bender

Urban Legend
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« Reply #20 on: 08-15-2013 06:07 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2013 06:09 »

I loved it. I agree with URL that although it wasn't the funniest episode, it was extremely entertaining. I didn't cry, but my heartstrings were tugged on quite a but. Mike fucking Rowe. An underdog story.

9.5/10
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #21 on: 08-15-2013 06:15 »

Mike Rowe's best episode. I am impressed with this guy's ep. If this show gets renewed, and he makes more episodes as good as this joke-wise and plotwise, I will accept him as a writer. I thought this episode was perfect with the jokes. Just the right amount an ep like it needed. All of it was mostly hit, except for Shazaam (editing it to be like that was such a bad decision). And I wish the family montage from the animatic stayed the same. If those were left the same, I would have surely enjoyed this episode a bit more. But I still loved it enough. smile
DotheBartman

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #22 on: 08-15-2013 06:17 »

Wow, that was inspired. I'm not sure how I didn't see the "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" spoof coming.

Hilarious all the way through, and the ending put a tear in my eye. Well done.
SuperiorKnowledge

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #23 on: 08-15-2013 06:34 »

This episode was absolutely amazing. It had a lot of great humor in it and the tearjerker ending was beautiful. 10/10
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #24 on: 08-15-2013 06:50 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2013 06:56 »

"Isn't it obvious?"
"... No."
"Drat, I was hoping it was."

Many great typical Futurama jokes.

One storyline with many subjects; Mysterious alien ship -tune and Fry's revisiting the past in a dream as well as Nibblonians story of the 31.12.1999. The episode wasn't enough for all this, but it packed everything nicely and it worked, and I liked it.

"Darn, kids! In my days, sound didn't travel through space." (laff laff)
Mysterious element was needed and I like it involved drunk Nibblonians and highpoint of the plot just before Fry was frozen. Just when you thought they can't add anymore in that scene. Oh, and I get it now, spaceship traveled so slowly, because it was so tiny.

Dream-based plot has so many possibilities in the first place. It seems it almost always works and this wasn't an exception. Dream-world things, like empitiness outside memories, were nice.

"I can't stand to see him like this. I'll push him off the roof."
Mysterious, emotional episode was epic and funny at the same time. Actually, hard to find anything bad in this episode. This was overall very great, 9/10.

Also, dream-pants and agonising elevator-music.
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #25 on: 08-15-2013 07:05 »

Huh, I wonder who rated the episode a 3/10...........  roll eyes
Sof

Bending Unit
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« Reply #26 on: 08-15-2013 07:08 »

I can't believe it, I cried over a Rowe's episode,oh my god a solid 9.5/10 (10 in the poll).

Futurama,congratulations, you still being a fucking tearjerker.
GedeWK

Bending Unit
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« Reply #27 on: 08-15-2013 07:10 »

Huh, I wonder who rated the episode a 3/10...........  roll eyes
Maybe its Zoidberg. Or someone who loves to blame Zoidberg.
Box Incorporated

Bending Unit
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« Reply #28 on: 08-15-2013 07:11 »

Well, Fry did have his tongue stretched out and a giant needle be stuck into him, so maybe it's On..I mean, he who must not be named. Anyway, just saw the episode again, and liked the emotion a lot more than before. It was more about Fry just trying to be with his family one last time than him just missing his mother like I kept focusing on before (I really should stop looking at promos to hard). I raise my grade to a 9.2/10, best of the Season, in my Top 5 of the new run.
Spacedal11

Space Pope
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« Reply #29 on: 08-15-2013 07:30 »

Oh god. I'm so teary eyed. 10/10
MuchAdo

Professor
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« Reply #30 on: 08-15-2013 08:12 »

I guess you could say this episode...... hit the right notes!
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #31 on: 08-15-2013 08:24 »

Man, these review sites are being a bit harsh with the episode.

IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/15/futurama-game-of-tones-review

A.V Club: http://www.avclub.com/articles/game-of-tones,101394/

Their main problem with the ep is probably because they think this was just a cheap way to go back to Fry's past. I don't think of it as a cheap way at all. And it actually played out really great. The best since Season 4.

And the main plot with the Nibblonian ship worked for me. These people had a huge issue with how it was barely resolved in the end, and seemed half-assed. I don't think it was half-assed, at all. A bit stupid, yes, but definitely not in any means bad. Actually enjoyable, and very futurama-ey for it to have been done that way. Like what more do they expect?
Tastes Like Fry

Urban Legend
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« Reply #32 on: 08-15-2013 08:28 »


Fnord
Starship Captain
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« Reply #33 on: 08-15-2013 08:33 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2013 08:44 »

Wow, that was inspired. I'm not sure how I didn't see the "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" spoof coming.

... with Mount Shushmore as Devil's Tower.

I was also reminded of the alien probe in "Star Trek IV".

The theme of people going into someone's dream is evidently an old one. (South Park did it in an episode, and Philip K Dick used it as a main theme of The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldrich.)

Entertaining, mushy at the end.

EDIT: "Bye, bye keys!" is what Baby Bart once said when he flushed Homer Simpson's keys down the toilet, in THAT OTHER SERIES WHICH IS NOT TO BE MENTIONED HERE.
Zmithy

Professor
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« Reply #34 on: 08-15-2013 08:34 »
« Last Edit on: 08-15-2013 08:50 »

Wow, I went into this expecting some sort of Game of Thrones parody* and got something much,much better.

10/10 Absolutely perfect.

Best episode since TLPJF.

I loved absolutely everything... I found the tone genuinely disturbing for some reason and cringed every time it was played.. the opening was wonderfully ominous and dark and really set the stakes. Having him have 10 minutes of dream last 13 1/2 days and then waking up to see the earth falling apart was nuts and really put the rest of the ep into panic mode.

And then the ending was a complete curveball.

Was this tone actually in the first episode and intended to have meaning? If so, that's pretty cool.

Anyway, it had everything, great humour, crazy epic high sci-fi plot with a disturbing edge and a really amazing Fry story that concluded wonderfully.

This is Futurama at its best. big grin

This season has been wonderful, part of me is glad its going out on a high, the other part is annoyed that it doesn't get to continue now that it's found its spark again.

*just based on the title... I don't read any spoilers, hints, or discussion or news articles or anything about upcoming eps because I just want to watch them as they come.** Judging from posts in this thread it seems like a lot of people have ended up liking this ep slightly less than they thought they would due to raised expectations from the internet having a lot of previews or "best episode ever" comments from the staff about this ep in advance?

** I find the news widget thing on the right side of PEEL to be highly annoying and spoilery and the main reason why I don't visit this site much when the show is airing.
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #35 on: 08-15-2013 08:53 »

Man, these review sites are being a bit harsh with the episode.

IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/15/futurama-game-of-tones-review

A.V Club: http://www.avclub.com/articles/game-of-tones,101394/

Their main problem with the ep is probably because they think this was just a cheap way to go back to Fry's past. I don't think of it as a cheap way at all. And it actually played out really great. The best since Season 4.

And the main plot with the Nibblonian ship worked for me. These people had a huge issue with how it was barely resolved in the end, and seemed half-assed. I don't think it was half-assed, at all. A bit stupid, yes, but definitely not in any means bad. Actually enjoyable, and very futurama-ey for it to have been done that way. Like what more do they expect?

IGN is notorious for awful reviews. They gave Neutopia and TFHS 9/10 each, and some of the better episodes much lower scores.

That said, I didn't think it was cheap at all. Cheap would have been: "What's that Fry? You heard the sound in 1999? Good news everyone! I've created a time machine!" The way it was actually done was quite fresh.
FutureMike17

Bending Unit
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« Reply #36 on: 08-15-2013 09:05 »

Man, these review sites are being a bit harsh with the episode.

IGN: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/15/futurama-game-of-tones-review

A.V Club: http://www.avclub.com/articles/game-of-tones,101394/

Their main problem with the ep is probably because they think this was just a cheap way to go back to Fry's past. I don't think of it as a cheap way at all. And it actually played out really great. The best since Season 4.

And the main plot with the Nibblonian ship worked for me. These people had a huge issue with how it was barely resolved in the end, and seemed half-assed. I don't think it was half-assed, at all. A bit stupid, yes, but definitely not in any means bad. Actually enjoyable, and very futurama-ey for it to have been done that way. Like what more do they expect?

Yea I think IGN gives horrible reviews. They always review shows too harshly. The A.V. Club review I thought was pretty fair. I feel like an A- on that site is pretty good considering I've never seen them give an A+.
GedeWK

Bending Unit
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« Reply #37 on: 08-15-2013 09:24 »

Futurama writers makes some of their episode pretty complex, some some of the complexities explained NOT ALWAYS in the next episode, but maybe in the next season or an episode afterwards. IGN does not understand that.
DannyJC13

Space Pope
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« Reply #38 on: 08-15-2013 09:36 »

Really, really good episode, any episode that involves the night Fry got frozen gets high marks from me. Touching ending, and a decent plot, but the reason for Digby blasting the tone seemed a little stupid.

9/10
Tachyon

Space Pope
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« Reply #39 on: 08-15-2013 09:39 »


The pacing was just about as perfect as could be done with the shorter running time.  I laughed at the gags.  I saw the Close Encounters thing right away and enjoyed it, and the twist with the ship made me smile and chuckle.


Spot on, Tasty.  Spot. On!  I *was* lying down as I watched it.  I usually manage to avoid all spoilers but had seen Eric Rogers quote and was waiting for the "Kleenex" moment, wondering whether I'd missed it. Then, BAM!

Did I?  DID I?  Oh yeah, did I ever... like a little kid who had their teddy bear AND their blanky taken away. cry

10/10

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