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TheAnvil

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« on: 07-21-2013 00:30 »

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/07/20/comic-con-futurama-says-farewell

"When asked if this was really the end, Groening and Cohen said they both had more Futurama stories to tell. Fans also have a Futurama crossover to look forward to in the upcoming season of The Simpsons."

This is going to be so cool. I definitely think that after CC have aired their episodes we're going to hear some news. They may not be allowed to say anything until after they've aired the episodes due to contract stuff.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #1 on: 07-21-2013 01:40 »
« Last Edit on: 07-24-2013 08:31 by totalnerduk »

That really belongs here. It's Futurama news.

It really isn't worth a separate thread.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #2 on: 07-21-2013 01:47 »

It definitely will deserve its own thread at some point so I don't think it's that crazy to jump the gun a bit and give it one now.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #3 on: 07-21-2013 03:39 »

Ugh, I just don't know about this episode. It sounds like crap, because The Present Day Simpsons are mostly full of unbelievable crap. Every now and then, there are a few crystals in there.

Especially in Season 23, that surprisngly had some decent episodes. Like "Fun Thing Bart will Never do again", "How I wet your Mother", and "Holidays of Future Passed". It did have it's fair share of bad eps too, as usual. The last Season was pretty crappy.  Only good eps from that one was the Valentines Day one, and the "Hardly Kirking".

Now Futurama is a whole different story. The first 4 seasons was the jewel of the series. The return DVDs were alright, while BBS was the only great one of the batch. Others were Okay. Season 6 was pretty mixed. It had alot of issues in 6A, but were fixed in 6B. (Not all of them) 6A did have some really great episodes though, like "Lethal Inspection", "The Late Phillip J. Fry", and "The Prisoner of Benda". The rest were mainly good, while "Gadda Leela", and 'Lrrecnoncible" being the real stinkers of the season. The last half season (7A) was actually pretty solid, with the last 5 being the worse half of the batch. And so far, this season has been on the meh side, with "The Inhuman Torch" being the only really good one. The others were just plainly good, or pretty good. (Not counting SMFP, Cause it's non-canon, and they get away with more when they do those.)

So a Simpsons/Futurama crossover could work, but it would need ALOT OF WORK! Not really excited about it, but I really hope there's a funny scene, or B-Plot with the Professor and Abe. That'd be awesome.
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« Reply #4 on: 07-21-2013 03:47 »

It definitely will deserve its own thread at some point so I don't think it's that crazy to jump the gun a bit and give it one now.

By that time, this will have sunk into obscurity, and twelve other noobs desperate to share their "cool discovery" will create twelve other threads, all with similar titles and all within a few days of one another.

Besides which, I don't think this is going to be anything to get excited about. Unless The Simpsons has undergone a fundamental shift away from being the shitfest that it began morphing into in the first few years of the millennium, and Futurama is somehow able to recapture that oh-so-very-lost something that it had during the earlier seasons, this is going to suck harder than a tree.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #5 on: 07-21-2013 03:53 »

Futurama shall live on and on!
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #6 on: 07-21-2013 04:04 »
« Last Edit on: 07-21-2013 04:10 »

Not really excited about it, but I really hope there's a funny scene, or B-Plot with the Professor and Abe. That'd be awesome.

I just [sarcasm]can't wait[/sarcasm] that characters' introduction and comparison between each other. I really don't hope similiar characters doing something together.

What could work? A short visit of PE-crew in Universe #58 = That yellow one due to (another) failed box-experiment.

Or this...
There will be a Futurama crossover episode. The plot will revolve around bad boys Bender and Bart: “Bender has to come back from the future to kill Bart because there’s something that Bart does now that makes the future really, really, really bad,” says Al Jean. The crossover episode was penned by Simpsons co-executive producer J. Stewart Burns, who has also written for Futurama. It is slated to air on Fox as either the season 25 finale in May 2014 or as the season 26 premiere in fall 2014. (InsideTV Entertainment Weekly)
SolidSnake

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« Reply #7 on: 07-21-2013 04:59 »
« Last Edit on: 07-21-2013 05:12 »

It definitely will deserve its own thread at some point so I don't think it's that crazy to jump the gun a bit and give it one now.

By that time, this will have sunk into obscurity, and twelve other noobs desperate to share their "cool discovery" will create twelve other threads, all with similar titles and all within a few days of one another.

Besides which, I don't think this is going to be anything to get excited about. Unless The Simpsons has undergone a fundamental shift away from being the shitfest that it began morphing into in the first few years of the millennium, and Futurama is somehow able to recapture that oh-so-very-lost something that it had during the earlier seasons, this is going to suck harder than a tree.
Loosen up, Tnuk. Seriously, everything is a big bag of shit to you anymore. Of course this might crossover might not work. Of course last season wasn't the best. It sure as hell wasn't anything bad, either. If you wanna see bad, go to MTV. And maybe these next 7 episode will show you otherwise. Not trying to sound like a real a-hole, but.....It'd be nice if you loosened up at least a little..! Ehh, what am I saying, we need some criticism around here, and you're the guy for that.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #8 on: 07-21-2013 06:09 »

Of course last season wasn't the best. It sure as hell wasn't anything bad, either.

I feel like last season (and so far this season with the exception of F&LBF) was pretty much exactly what Fox expected when they originally ordered Futurama. It was The Simpsons, in the future, with pink skin and a robot. That's why I think that so much about this is "a big bag of shit".

Last season was bad, this season looks set to be just as bad, and you're obviously just not discerning enough to notice when something's sliding inexorably down a chute into Hell. I'm not going to hold that against you. But I'm definitely not going to "loosen up", either. That sounds awful, I really don't think I'd enjoy it.

Ehh, what am I saying, we need some criticism around here, and you're the guy for that.

... No. Stop that. Don't give me a job to do. I'm not the guy for anything! I'm just a miserable bastard with a keyboard, who complains about things because he's incapable of making an actual contribution to society. I don't provide anything necessary, useful, or even wanted. Don't try to pretend that I do!

On a more serious note, I really do wish that not everything seemed so deserving of such criticism, but I suppose that not every episode can be TKOS, TLOTF, or TLPJF. I'm just going to sit here and watch AOI, whilst wishing that I had a giant robot.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #9 on: 07-21-2013 06:14 »

Of course last season wasn't the best. It sure as hell wasn't anything bad, either.

I feel like last season (and so far this season with the exception of F&LBF) was pretty much exactly what Fox expected when they originally ordered Futurama. It was The Simpsons, in the future, with pink skin and a robot. That's why I think that so much about this is "a big bag of shit".

Last season was bad, this season looks set to be just as bad, and you're obviously just not discerning enough to notice when something's sliding inexorably down a chute into Hell. I'm not going to hold that against you. But I'm definitely not going to "loosen up", either. That sounds awful, I really don't think I'd enjoy it.

Ehh, what am I saying, we need some criticism around here, and you're the guy for that.

... No. Stop that. Don't give me a job to do. I'm not the guy for anything! I'm just a miserable bastard with a keyboard, who complains about things because he's incapable of making an actual contribution to society. I don't provide anything necessary, useful, or even wanted. Don't try to pretend that I do!

On a more serious note, I really do wish that not everything seemed so deserving of such criticism, but I suppose that not every episode can be TKOS, TLOTF, or TLPJF. I'm just going to sit here and watch AOI, whilst wishing that I had a giant robot.
Okay, we got our own opinions on last seasons. It differs. Oh well. You definitely made your point on that part.

And ever hear of something called Sarcasm...? Cause I don't think you quite got the "you're the guy for that" part.

Whatever, let's just drop this. I don't want this to get too carried away, like some of your posts always do.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #10 on: 07-21-2013 06:53 »

And ever hear of something called Sarcasm...? Cause I don't think you quite got the "you're the guy for that" part.

I got it. Now read my response in full awareness that I got it, and see if it sounds a little different.
Imy

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« Reply #11 on: 07-21-2013 09:07 »

Here's my main concern with this announcement.

The Simpsons has gifted television some amazing episodes, yes, but the series has always been a little stale... possibly due to the quintessential family sitcom set-up which doesn't do much for me. How they're going to merge the two even for 20 minutes sounds like a boring endeavour, and I'd rather not see my favourite Futurama characters in that situation post-series final. It would leave a bitter taste in my mouth. And I own a copy of each of Bongo's Crossover Crisis and they aren't anything spectacular.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #12 on: 07-21-2013 09:22 »

Here's my main concern with this announcement.

The Simpsons has gifted television some amazing episodes, yes, but the series has always been a little stale... possibly due to the quintessential family sitcom set-up which doesn't do much for me. How they're going to merge the two even for 20 minutes sounds like a boring endeavour, and I'd rather not see my favourite Futurama characters in that situation post-series final. It would leave a bitter taste in my mouth. And I own a copy of each of Bongo's Crossover Crisis and they aren't anything spectacular.

Exactly. I have those two on my self and let me say, they are bleh at best. Not super looking forward to this. What is with Simpsons going crossover crazy? At least with Futurama it's the same creators.
TheAnvil

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« Reply #13 on: 07-21-2013 11:51 »

It definitely will deserve its own thread at some point so I don't think it's that crazy to jump the gun a bit and give it one now.

By that time, this will have sunk into obscurity, and twelve other noobs desperate to share their "cool discovery" will create twelve other threads, all with similar titles and all within a few days of one another.

Besides which, I don't think this is going to be anything to get excited about. Unless The Simpsons has undergone a fundamental shift away from being the shitfest that it began morphing into in the first few years of the millennium, and Futurama is somehow able to recapture that oh-so-very-lost something that it had during the earlier seasons, this is going to suck harder than a tree.

Wow, you seriously come of as the biggest whiny little bitch in the history of forever. You clearly "now hate" Futurama so why the hell do you hang around message boards for a show that you hate? Every post you make is you whining about something.

You're either a bitch or a troll, either way you should be banned.
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« Reply #14 on: 07-21-2013 11:54 »

It'll be interesting to say the least. As long as it's non-canon with Futurama's universe, then I guess I'm okay with it for now. hmpf

Also, tnuk, we get it, new Futurama sucks, always has always will, blah blah blah, but some of us still enjoy it, so can't you just leave us in peace? I don't see what ranting and complaining is going to do, it just angers people who still love the show and it's not going to change the fact that (you think) it sucks now. hmpf
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #15 on: 07-21-2013 12:28 »

This will probably be pretty bad, but I'd watch it.
Dorsal Axe

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« Reply #16 on: 07-21-2013 12:31 »
« Last Edit on: 07-21-2013 21:12 »

I have a bit of faith with J. Stewart Burns writing the episode. And I'm not surprised he's behind it, given that he wrote "Holidays of Future Passed".
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #17 on: 07-21-2013 15:47 »

That is good news. I was sort of hoping for them to hire David X. Cohen to write his first Simpsons episode since "Bart the Mother", but J. Stewart Burns is one of the better choices.

I think that The Simpsons in its current state is an absolute embarrassment and is genuinely terrible television, but "Holidays of Future Passed" was, remarkably, not awful. I actually enjoyed it and it's the first episode I can say that about in almost 10 years.
Binder

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« Reply #18 on: 07-21-2013 17:53 »

Saying what I said on NoHomers here:

If they have a decent framing device, like The Springfield Files Leonard Nimoy introduction, which removes it from the usual canon I think it could work. Also, they'd have to explain why Bender is able to not only travel back in time (I'm assuming the Time Code?) but also why he is able to travel backwards into fictional realities, given The Simpsons is a cartoon show in the Futurama universe. Could be that it is the events that occur within a Simpsons episode are what cause chaos in the future, and Bender travels back to kill Bart and rewrite the episode which in turn could alter history. That would at least be a bit more of an interesting sci-fi premise, time travel that doesn't just traverse time, but also jumps into alternate realities including fictional ones.

If the whole episode takes place within the Futurama universe (like the Simpsons/Futurama crossover comics) then it can easily work.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #19 on: 07-21-2013 20:25 »

Wow, you seriously come of as the biggest whiny little bitch in the history of forever. You clearly "now hate" Futurama so why the hell do you hang around message boards for a show that you hate? Every post you make is you whining about something.

The thing is, I don't hate Futurama. I think it's a brilliant show - or was, at least. I enjoy it more than I enjoy a lot of television, and there are still occasionally great episodes. TLPJF, FOAB, FALBF, and TIT prove that the show still has the potential to produce steaming piles of freshly-baked awesome. When something is deserving of praise, I am quite happy to praise it.

But other episodes from the new run show just as clearly that it's slipping somewhat. It's become hit-or-miss, it's become sloppy, and it's picked up the annoying habit of referencing things like Twitter and Facebook as a substitute for actually making a joke or making a reference to classic Sci-Fi. I mean, what's the last joke Futurama made that was a direct reference to a Robert Heinlein story? When did you last see Futurama make a freeze-frame gag that's an affectionate homage to the Known Space universe?

Standards are falling, and what attracted me to the show is slipping away. This does not mean that I "hate Futurama", I'm just disappointed that it's no longer got the depth and soul that it used to. Remember the lavish spread of background jokes that were a staple of the first season and almost completely absent in much of the sixth? Remember when continuity was important, and even small things carried over from one episode to another (example; AFTR's continuity with AWITM)?

I remember. I know that Futurama's capable of better than episodes like TTT and TSMDM. I know that it's capable of giving a better treatment to ideas like that behind TBJE.

Just because I don't blindly praise the show, and just because I acknowledge that the new run has flaws indicative of a general decline doesn't mean I "hate" the show, genius. It means that I still love the idea but am not fond of the idea's current execution.

You're either a bitch or a troll, either way you should be banned.

You're either an idiot or... well, actually, I see no alternative. You're an idiot. If I should be banned simply for not having an opinion in line with the groupthink here, then you should be banned for being unable to outsmart a pint glass.

Also, tnuk, we get it, new Futurama sucks, always has always will, blah blah blah, but some of us still enjoy it, so can't you just leave us in peace?

I've not said that "new Futurama sucks, always has always will". For a start, I'd punctuate that correctly and it'd be two sentences. What I've said is that it's disappointing, standards are evidently falling, and that it's not as consistently good as it had managed to be before. For fuck's sake, dude. That doesn't mean I think it sucks, I just think it could be better and I don't think that it should be allowed to continue to go downhill. Yeah, some people still really enjoy it. That's fine. They're allowed to. But I'm allowed by the same token to point out that this means they're about as discerning in their tastes as a hobo rummaging through a dumpster for his dinner.

I don't see what ranting and complaining is going to do, it just angers people who still love the show and it's not going to change the fact that (you think) it sucks now. hmpf

It provides a different perspective from the blind praise we get from undiscerning idiots who haven't the wit to see that just because you complain about something doesn't mean you hate it, for a start.

Get this through your skull. You and all the other berks who think they're doing Futurama a service by "defending" it against those who think it's still possible for the show to be decent entertainment if they'll just pull out their goddamn fingers and write something of a slightly higher standard so that they don't sink to the level of Family Guy or current-era Simpsons.

I do not hate Futurama. But I do think that it's declining, I do think that blind praise from hyper-fangirls like you isn't helping, and I don't think that a crossover with the bland and uninteresting, lowest-common-denominator, recycled and boring morass that The Simpsons has become will help that.

The fact that I pay enough attention to Futurama to watch it, and to dissect it, and to notice little things that piss me off despite a good episode, or that please me despite a bad episode should be indicative of the fact that I don't hate Futurama.

Believe me, when I say things like this:

Unless The Simpsons has undergone a fundamental shift away from being the shitfest that it began morphing into in the first few years of the millennium, and Futurama is somehow able to recapture that oh-so-very-lost something that it had during the earlier seasons, this is going to suck harder than a tree.
 
I say them as a fan. As somebody who wants to see a good crossover rather than a bad one. I'm also enough of a realist to know that I'll probably see an absolutely awful one, and that when I review the episode on PEEL, some fustilarian drone such as TheAnvil will cry "hater! hater! Burn the witch!", and you'll probably happily join in the pitchfork-waving mob. Even though in that same post I am likely to have included a list of the things that I enjoyed, despite disliking the episode overall.

I swear in the name of everything that's deep-fried and crispy, by the colour of bananas, and to the nipples of Xochiquetzal, if people persist in coming to such ignominiously deadbrained conclusions as "tnuk hates Futurama", I will discard my normally-pleasant demeanour and start being downright unpleasant with them.
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« Reply #20 on: 07-21-2013 20:33 »

Blind praise? I'm not afraid to admit if I think the show is starting to suck. I'll say that an episode sucks if I think it sucks. I genuinely still like the show as a whole though.
TheAnvil

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« Reply #21 on: 07-21-2013 21:05 »

Blind praise? I'm not afraid to admit if I think the show is starting to suck. I'll say that an episode sucks if I think it sucks. I genuinely still like the show as a whole though.

Don't wrestle with pigs, they love it and you only get dirty. You can't educate pork.

Best thing is to just ignore someone as ignorant as tnuk.
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« Reply #22 on: 07-21-2013 21:28 »
« Last Edit on: 07-21-2013 21:35 by totalnerduk »

Best thing is to just ignore someone as ignorant as tnuk.

laff

Which you're doing so well with. So very well. By the way, lines like that are quite reminiscent of posters like this guy.

You don't happen to have a deep emotional connection with Fry, and a belief that he exists in some other plane as an entity who wholeheartedly returns your love, do you?
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #23 on: 07-21-2013 23:06 »

Don't be dumb. Now Bart, on the other hand...
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #24 on: 07-21-2013 23:19 »

Of course! That makes so much more sense. The pieces are starting to fit together now...
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« Reply #25 on: 07-22-2013 00:50 »

Futurama shall live on and on!

I love this; you seemed pretty cynical before, but now you're happy that it's going to live on. I'm so happy. So very happy.

futz
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« Reply #26 on: 07-22-2013 01:58 »

The thought of original Futurama staffer Bill Odenkirk being involved is intruguing. Maybe he can breathe some life into the fumbling recent effort.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #27 on: 07-22-2013 02:12 »

Maybe they're really trying to work hard on this. Cause they all know Fox will air anything they put, no matter how bad. And it seems to me that Matt Groening wants to show them what Futurama is capable of, by doing this crossover. I think even Matt has a sense of mind, and it completely aware that this could totally blow if they do not treat this properly. I mean, why else do you think he was never crazy about Crossover Episodes? So I mean I got real mixed feelings about this. It could work, but then again, maybe it could not.
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« Reply #28 on: 07-22-2013 05:12 »

Great news! Lots of negative nancies on here. It has got to be the most depressing forums on the internet.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #29 on: 07-22-2013 05:16 »

It is interesting that Matt is willing to do this. He's probably only one that can decide this cross-over.

And it seems to me that Matt Groening wants to show them what Futurama is capable of, by doing this crossover.
I don't know how a cross-over episode would do that, but maybe it's still some kind of reminder of Futurama, hoping it coming back.
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« Reply #30 on: 07-22-2013 05:25 »
« Last Edit on: 07-22-2013 05:27 »

Great news! Lots of negative nancies on here. It has got to be the most depressing forums on the internet.

While I've yet to see the CC seasons, I can see where totalnerduk's passion comes from.  I'm the same way when it comes to the first 9 seasons of the Simpsons being hand over fist superior to everything that came after it and I have little agreement with people who'll praise ANYTHING with the Simpsons name stamped on it.

The problem is there are two types of people: There are the people who enjoy the deeper meanings, jokes and asides Futurama (and Simpsons) once had and there are other people who see the show as nothing more than a bunch of cheap laughs.  Sadly, these two sides will always disagree with each other with one side saying you're too stupid to 'get' what made the show great vs. "It's just a cartoon, you friggen nerd!  Lighten up, Hater!!!!".

As for the crossover, I tend to be optimistic for the pairing to be better than average because this might be the spark which gives the staff the spark to produce a great(er) episode.



UnrealLegend

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« Reply #31 on: 07-22-2013 05:57 »

Not sure why people are getting so butthurt over tnuk's opinion. Giving constructive criticism is never a bad thing. If anything, we should complain about the guys who say "LOL FUTURAMAMA SUCKS  NOW AND MIKE ROWE HAS A SMALL DICK!!!!11".

One reason I like PEEL is because it's not a circlejerk that worships everything the show produces.
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« Reply #32 on: 07-22-2013 06:22 »

I'm honestly a bit surprised to see that a crossover is in the works, considering two key things:

A) Matt has never been overly fond of them

and

B) We already have a crossover in comic book format.

It will be interesting to see this thing regardless of how poorly or how brilliantly executed this is simply because of the above points. I'm willing to bet no matter how this goes there will be comparisons drawn between the episode and the comic. Which is better, which is worse? Did the episode rip the comic off to a degree or not, etc.


And for the record I think tnuk's passion for the show is admirable and I am inclined to agree that the show has taken on more 'hip and now' jokes than in the past in lieu of making smart jokes. It's sort of like they took a page out of DreamWorks's book which I do not think is a good thing unless used in extreme moderation.
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« Reply #33 on: 07-22-2013 06:48 »

And for the record I think tnuk's passion for the show is admirable and I am inclined to agree that the show has taken on more 'hip and now' jokes than in the past in lieu of making smart jokes. It's sort of like they took a page out of DreamWorks's book which I do not think is a good thing unless used in extreme moderation.
I do like tnuks passion for the show, since I'll agree, it hasn't been as good as it's early years on FOX. But I think it's still good, just not as great. That's just my opinion though. The only issue with tnuk, is his hate of the new fans of the new eps. It's okay to hate an episode, but he severely criticizes every little thing about somebody elses opinion of an episode, if they feel the need to disagree with tnuk. Especially calling Danny a hyper-fangirl, and comparing Anvil to 0nuki. That was extremely uncalled for. I do like his opinions of the show, but not the way he handles some of the other things he has to say. Some go waay overboard.
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« Reply #34 on: 07-22-2013 07:14 »

Fair enough. That being said tnuk has always had a rather sarcastic and snarky brand of humor, some of it which might be mistaken for actual derogatory slander. It's often hard to discern mean-spirited commentary from joking commentary on the interwebs. Take it for what you will though.

And Danny is totally our resident hyper-fangirl.  wink I mean that with wuv, not hate or mockery.  love
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« Reply #35 on: 07-22-2013 18:02 »
« Last Edit on: 07-25-2013 03:09 by totalnerduk »

The only issue with tnuk, is his hate of the new fans of the new eps.

So I hate the fans of the new episodes now? It's really interesting to be told exactly what you do and do not hate - especially when it's a complete surprise to you. All I've said is that fans of the new episodes are obviously not fans of the same things that drew me to the show, and are clearly less bothered about things like strong continuity, smart humour, and having a bit more depth than things like "Bender bit a poo penny!".

So far, the worst I've done is describe "new fans" as excitable puppies.

It's okay to hate an episode, but he severely criticizes every little thing about somebody elses opinion of an episode.

If this were even remotely true, I'd be filling up the review threads with enormous posts in reply to every one-line review. I tend to get into a discussion about what one small detail means now and again, but your statement is both defamatory and ridiculous. If you want me to start following you from thread to thread and giving you a hard time about every nuance of opinion you've ever shared, I'm more than capable of doing so. If you don't want that, I suggest that you don't say this again.

... he severely criticizes every little thing about somebody elses opinion of an episode if they feel the need to disagree with tnuk.

If somebody feels the need to disagree with me, they are usually wrong. I tend not to criticise opinions that are well thought-out, that are highly cromulent interpretations of what's been displayed on screen, or that are given elegantly, eloquently, or excellently (and that's by no means an exhaustive list of what I don't tend to criticise).

Especially calling Danny a hyper-fangirl, and comparing Anvil to 0nuki. That was extremely uncalled for.

Danny is a hyper-fangirl. In the most masculine way possible. I doubt that Danny took offense to that description, and I'm fairly certain that there are many PEELers both male and female who would cheerfully admit to being hyper-fangirls of other things and other shows. The term "hyper-fangirl" was not intended to be mockery. As Professor Zoidy says, it's meant with wuv. With an Earth "w".

TheAnvil described me as "a troll or a bitch", said I "should be banned", and then said that Danny should ignore me because I am "ignorant". These are all the type of things that Onuki was fond of saying to people who didn't agree with him, and I feel that the comparison was an appropriate one. If you don't, then fuck you and the horse you rode in on. As well as that horse's mother, and anybody who you had a conversation with along the way, and your children, and your children's children's children. For three months!

I do like his opinions of the show, but not the way he handles some of the other things he has to say. Some go waay overboard.

When I give my opinions of the show, you give comments like this:

Loosen up, Tnuk. Seriously, everything is a big bag of shit to you anymore.

TheAnvil gives comments like his remark about either being "a bitch or a troll". Danny asks why I even bother posting on PEEL. Is it any wonder that my other remarks then tend to be a little... overstated?

If my comments regarding the show itself weren't given such short shrift by stupid shits, I suppose I'd see a smaller need to give such stupid shits such short shrift themselves (now read that aloud, fast).

Fair enough. That being said tnuk has always had a rather sarcastic and snarky brand of humor, some of it which might be mistaken for actual derogatory slander.

No, no, you've totally got it backwards. Some of my derogatory slander is actually mistaken for humour. I'm never sarcastic or snarky in any way. Ever. tongue

Anyway. We should probably talk more about the crossover.

So far, I'm not seeing much more information than was revealed at CC. There's this article that doesn't really say anything, this that confirms it's not just Bender going to Springfield, and this one promising a Futurama-themed couch gag. There are many, many more as well. But they're not giving much away between them, so there's room for a lot of speculation here.

I still think it's going to be done badly, by the way. It's the nature of the beast, when it comes to TV crossovers. There are very few that have been done well. Comic book universes are often much easier for two realities to collide in without them both losing something in translation.
BlueZoidberg1

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« Reply #36 on: 07-22-2013 18:26 »

"If somebody feels the need to disagree with me, they are usually wrong."

Wow, somebody needs to get over themselves.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #37 on: 07-22-2013 21:55 »
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I'm done worrying about Tnuk now. I thought I could compromise with his feelings of this whole thing, but I just can't. He's alot worse than 0nuki was. Everybody but you is wrong, tnuk. You're always right, nobody has a good argument to pick with you. I'm just going to end this with a nice, and simple, Forget about this whole thing! I don't have the time to lay down every possible flaw with your last post. And I do not want any hard feelings to be dealt with, as it may come back to strike us one day.
Boxy Robot

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« Reply #38 on: 07-22-2013 22:25 »

My two cents;

This has potential to be extremely fun, interesting and one of the best Simpsons episodes in years ... it is also equally likely it will turn out horrendously. Having J. Stewart Burns as lead writer may increase it's chances of being a worthy special as he has written some great episodes for both shows ("Roswell That Ends Well" & "The Deep South" for Futurama and "Holiday's of Future Passed" & "Moe Baby Blues" for the Simpsons). Although I will admit that he has been rather hit-or-miss over his entire writing career, having such a big story that may rake in many viewers for the network, hopefully he puts on his best writing cap.

I am also hoping that now Futurama is coming to an end, Cohen will have a hand in the making of this which would automatically increase it's chances of being spectacular. With David around, if any unfortunate character writing issues arise, he can steer it in the right direction so to not tarnish he and Matt's brain-child. If characters are written well, Al Jean and his minions have little to do with it, and if GOOD jokes are written for good character; this should turn out how I, and many others, hope it will.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #39 on: 07-22-2013 22:30 »
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Come on now, people have different opinions and people like to argue about that. It's not about winning the argument or about being right or wrong, it's about sharing your opinion and comparing it to others. Someone might be willing to defend his/her more and it might even be closer to reality (with some approach at least). Your opinion can't be changed by saying you're wrong, if you disagree.

You should take some of tnuk's post less seriously and think he's taking more critical approach to things using more agressive way to express it. Try not to take it personally.



On topic:
I'm not sure how cross-over episode will differ from regular Simpsons-episodes and how canon it will be considered. These are things that concern me besides the storyline- and "cartoon universes"-related things.
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