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SolidSnake

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« on: 06-20-2013 04:40 »
« Last Edit on: 06-21-2013 14:42 by [-mArc-] »

I liked the first act! Great episode so far!  big grin
Quantum Neutrino Field

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #1 on: 06-20-2013 05:00 »

This one too was different with Fry and Leela showed in relationship. Solid plot and pacing seemed appropiate.
MuchAdo

Professor
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« Reply #2 on: 06-20-2013 05:02 »
« Last Edit on: 06-20-2013 05:04 »

I give it a 8/10 overall, but just barely.

My mini review will be up later.

tyraniak

Urban Legend
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« Reply #3 on: 06-20-2013 05:02 »

Liked seeing Gunter again, was pretty disappointed in the reveal of Shawn. Pretty middling episode
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #4 on: 06-20-2013 05:06 »

Like 2D Blacktop, I'm going to give this a review tomorrow.

But I definitely thought that this was on-par with 2D Blacktop, while more jokes landed on 2D Blacktop for me than this one.

For now, I'd give it a 8/10
Kornography

Bending Unit
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« Reply #5 on: 06-20-2013 05:25 »

The problem I had with this episode was that the plot twist was revealed in the preview commercial before it aired. Otherwise I'd say it was just as solid as 2D, maybe a little better imo, I particularly liked the line where Leela was trying to describe her relationship with Fry. 8.5/10.
Fnord
Starship Captain
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« Reply #6 on: 06-20-2013 05:34 »

The return of Dr. Banjo!

And the cyclophage, and bone vampires (in the zoo).

Shawn.

Actually, that's spelled "Sean"
HIGHasFRY

Starship Captain
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« Reply #7 on: 06-20-2013 05:37 »

I loved the office supplies oriented romantic dinner.  So many funny quips about this episode, I'm sure it will be one of my favorites.  I thought it ran really smoothly in parallel with the delivery to the monkey planet and made for an excellent plot twist.  Some nice throwbacks to older episodes as well!!

I lost it when Bender ended up getting mugged instead.
"On Batman's night off"

10/10 big grin
Frida Waterfall

Professor
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« Reply #8 on: 06-20-2013 05:49 »

I really enjoyed Simian 7. And Fry's opinion on Gunther reminded me of PEELers...

Best background joke: the Blue Ass Group.
MYK

Delivery Boy
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« Reply #9 on: 06-20-2013 06:05 »

The problem I had with this episode was that the plot twist was revealed in the preview commercial before it aired.

Definitely a legitimate criticism but not really something that should be subtracted from the quality of the episode.

This was different. We got to see a dynamic of Fry and Leela we haven't really been shown. Glad they're just as goofy as they are affectionate as a couple. The office supplies dinner was pretty ingenious, and it melded well with the other plot. Some great quotes, as mentioned before, like Fry's indignant "Naked and Interrupted!" and "Blue Ass Group" on the billboard.

I'm kinda neutral on the Sean character. He wasn't great but he wasn't bad. He wasnít extremely necessary but he didnít drag the episode down.

Glad the references to past episodes are staying put, and I liked the light tension between Fry/Leela and Zoidberg/Amy/Bender.

8.5/10 for this one too.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #10 on: 06-20-2013 06:59 »
« Last Edit on: 06-20-2013 07:08 »

The episode had some funny scenes, but also some logical inconsistences:

- During the beginning, Fry and Leela make a big deal about no one knowing them together (Leela demonstratively proclaiming she's going home alone). And then they announce their vacation to everyone.
- After all the embarassment the characters took during the show: They really care that Fry and Leela getting busy is observed by some monkeys? And especially AMY being the "voice of reason" in a matter of decency?
- In the end, Amy once again acted like a backup Leela. For which the character already had been critisised in the previous season. I mean: The reasoning ("Let's not tell them"), the bossy attitude (Since when do the others listen to Amy anyway), and finally granting the permission to the others to tell Fry and Leela (=accepting a douchebaggy behaviour in the end) : She acted just like Leela. How about some clumsy, naive behaviour? Yep, there was definitely no Amy in that episode. But rather one Leela going on the vacation, and another Leela staying behind.

Apart from that:
- The "Trying to get some privacy" scenes worked rather well. It also included the whole cast, instead of focusing the episode too much on Fry and Leela alone.
- Sean: I was sceptical about him being shown, as he always seemed like some "ghost from Leela's past". Yet, the "mutual breakup" joke delivered by Leela had not been used too frequently in the show. So his presence was okay.
- The lazyness supporting devices certainly delivered some good scenes.
- Sean joining the skinny dipping reminded me of Dr Cox cameo in "Born to be Wild" tongue
- Nice to see the BoneVampire and Cyclophage again (though I would have laughed my ass off had the later been fleeing in terror upon seeing Bender big grin )
- The episode gained from it's simple, straight setup.
- Fry and Leela in a commited relationship worked all right to me. During the show, the characters have been shown several times to cope with rather ordinary, daily problems. And "a couple trying to get some time/privacy for themselves" certainly counts as one of those problems.
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #11 on: 06-20-2013 07:28 »
« Last Edit on: 06-20-2013 07:54 »

Well, first I have to say that the twist came from nowhere and totally took me by surprise. The plot was good when it didn't feel like blatant fan service (which unfortunately, was a lot of the time).

The jokes were good. I particularly liked Fry's lines: "We're alone and naked. Wanna play Marco Polo?" and "You know who else I hate? That monkey we haven't seen for years: Guenter." That felt like a reference to the huge number of fans who feel the same way.  laff

Much like the previous episode, there were a lot of nice background details such as the various animals in the zoo.

7/10. Not amazing, but pretty good.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Scruffy standing behind the pillar was the episode's highlight for me. big grin
Sof

Bending Unit
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« Reply #12 on: 06-20-2013 07:48 »

Ok,I was expecting good stuff from this episode and,even if the episode started good (Hah,Scruffy big grin) and I really enjoyed Sean as character...the rest really dissapointed me,the plot twist was a good idea but I don't know could be better.

I really don't want to mix my personal opinion about Fry/Leela's relationship with this but they kinda annoyed me,when they started to insulte their friends in their back,was really out of character.Definitely I prefer them as friends.

Too bad,I was expecting more because Eric Rogers is a good writter,oh well best luck the next time. I'm giving it a 7/10 ,just because I'm in a good mood after all.
totalnerduk

DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #13 on: 06-20-2013 08:02 »
« Last Edit on: 06-20-2013 08:05 »

Almost perfect. 8.5/10

Taking a week to pass through a moon worm, emerging unharmed (and unstarved), as well as the Prairie Elephants weren't great jokes. These are my only (minor) problems with this episode.

I do feel that a couple of opportunities were missed, and that there should have been some sort of epic showdown/rejection for Sean. But that's not really much of a gripe.

The episode had some funny scenes, but also some logical inconsistences:

Yeah, but those sort of abrupt departures from established character have been the norm since partway through Season 6 (and weren't unknown in earlier seasons). As a "new paradigm" episode, it was really well done. Or at the very least, could have been a lot worse.

All in all, a solid return to classic form. Makes up for the season opener being under-par.
Spacedal11

Space Pope
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« Reply #14 on: 06-20-2013 08:10 »

The shipper inside of me is most pleased. 8.5/10.

YOU WERE IN A ZOO!
Frida Waterfall

Professor
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« Reply #15 on: 06-20-2013 08:19 »

Almost perfect. 8.5/10
 the Prairie Elephants [wasn't a] great [joke].

No, but they sure were cute.

I cracked up at Lauren Tom's delivery of the "... Sparkles" line. It was so smooth and so adorkable. But the best joke, for me, was the "rip" right when the screen fades to black. Bender's arms flailing about when he spits out the line was spot-on in timing.

It was awkward watching Fry and Leela alone for a bit, but maybe that's just my personal feelings on one-on-one encounters fogging up my perception.

Oh, and the second-best joke was the brief shot of the monkey hosing down the room after Fry and Leela's departure. Must've been pretty messy, and I just love the fact that the zoo washes down the room with a hose like modern zoos do with their enclosures. Loved the detail of having the maintenance monkey smoking while cleaning up.

The following is in spoiler tags due to profanities/inappropriate content:
DannyJC13

Space Pope
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« Reply #16 on: 06-20-2013 08:27 »

Bender's "YOU WERE IN A ZOO!" killed me at the end.

I thought the episode was meh, I don't know, just seemed kind of predictable. Some funny moments in it though, however I found "2-D Blacktop" to be funnier. The robotic hands slapping all the mosquitoes on Fry was a good one. big grin

I'm going to have to say 6/10. It wasn't bad, and it wasn't spectacular either.
UnrealLegend

Urban Legend
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« Reply #17 on: 06-20-2013 08:30 »
« Last Edit on: 06-20-2013 08:31 »

Bender's "YOU WERE IN A ZOO!" killed me at the end.

I thought the episode was meh, I don't know, just seemed kind of predictable. Some funny moments in it though, however I found "2-D Blacktop" to be funnier. The robotic hands slapping all the mosquitoes on Fry was a good one. big grin

I'm going to have to say 6/10. It wasn't bad, and it wasn't spectacular either.
I pretty much agree with all this save for the comment on predictableness. In fact, "I'll just stay here and feed the mosquitoes" might be something I actually say in the future. big grin

EDIT: Could this episode be the source of Fry's slap in Overclockwise?
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #18 on: 06-20-2013 09:01 »


The following is in spoiler tags due to profanities/inappropriate content:

Scrappylive

Starship Captain
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« Reply #19 on: 06-20-2013 11:23 »

Wow, I really did enjoy this one a lot.

I have come to accept that, at this point, Fry and Leela's relationship is not static. The writers will tune their relationship according to their needs for an episode's plot. Maybe I've just been worn down on this issue over the past few seasons, but I was able to accept it just fine in this episode.

This episode came packed with plenty of great visual treats, from the office supplies dinner that actually looked pretty to the various background signs and the visual references to past episodes. For the first time in a while, I really want to rewatch and freeze frame an episode.

The references to the past were fun while remaining respectful to what the series had previously established -- free of retroactive continuity issues or dumbing things down. Bravo.

I enjoyed this episode over 2D Blacktop and have no major quarrels here. 9/10.
pumpkinpie

Starship Captain
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« Reply #20 on: 06-20-2013 13:03 »
« Last Edit on: 06-20-2013 13:09 »

I have no idea what I liked most in this. The shipper in me had a brain aneurysm every time Fry and Leela were on screen together. Also, I would like to take the time to point out that they are officially the. Cutest. Couple. Ever. Mugging Bender, Marco Polo, and the giggling at the end (seriously how cute). I am really glad they're together. I also enjoyed the character of frugal Sean. Why? I will never know. Also, I had to realize....Fry and Leela got busy, then freaky in that order. Enough to scar Zoidberg. This is probably most evident by the monkey hosing down the place  laff

I loved Simian 7,  Edwards flirting with Amy the Marmoset (those pajamas were f*cking awesome). I just loved Amy in this, I don't know why. The sight gags, the plot twist, everything. This may actually become one of my all time favorite episodes. Bender's reveal at the end was spot on timing, and had me rolling.

9/10
Imy

Bending Unit
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« Reply #21 on: 06-20-2013 13:50 »

I have nothing unique to add as most of you have summed up my exact feelings... those being "good". I preferred it to 2-D Blacktop, fo' sho'. 8.5/10. May this episode prove Fry/Leela "haterz" wrong - their dynamic as a couple is uber cute and real.

Word.
Kataang102

Bending Unit
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« Reply #22 on: 06-20-2013 16:24 »

I am awear this is a littlebit of a recycled plot but I still loved it

I did find the ending crule
Jezzem

Urban Legend
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« Reply #23 on: 06-20-2013 16:30 »

I'd write a slightly more in-depth review of this episode, but I really should go to bed. I'll say that I thought this one was slightly better than 2-D Blacktop, I liked the Fry and Leela stuff and I liked that we got to see Sean finally. I'll give this one an 8/10.
Jarvio

Bending Unit
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« Reply #24 on: 06-20-2013 17:04 »

7/10 for me.

The marmoset costume was cool. And the whole ape planet and zoo were good ideas too.

I'm just not a fan of the romantic Fry and Leela stuff though. All this romantic soap-opera stuff is just not for me. But that's just my personal taste.

I preferred '2D', but this episode was still decent enough and had it's merits.
Mr Snrub

Urban Legend
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« Reply #25 on: 06-20-2013 18:23 »

It was okay. Not as good as Farewell to Arms, a lot of the monkey jokes fell flat and I wish Sean hadn't seemed so throwaway, but there were some good moments. I laughed at the Blue Ass Group, Dr. Banjo swinging too far on the tire and Fry's "you know who I hate most? That monkey we haven't seen in years." Also, while it wasn't funny, the delivery of "nude, and interrupted" was fucking perfect.

7/10
SolidSnake

Professor
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« Reply #26 on: 06-20-2013 19:12 »
« Last Edit on: 07-23-2013 06:29 »

REVIEW:

I enjoyed this episode. The first act with Fry and Leela trying to get privacy was good, them robbing Bender was hilarious. The second act, was okay, some of the jokes didn't land, but was still enjoyable. Third act, was probably the best in my opinion. Fry saying that he hates "the monkey he hasn't seen in years" part was pretty funny, knowing that alot of people don't like Guenter. I kinda feel like the only one who liked him in Mars University. The ending bit with Bender saying "YOU WERE IN A ZOO!!" was priceless. I like how the pacing of this episode was perfect!

I am going to give this episode a rating of 9 out of 10. Great, but nothing more than the great area.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #27 on: 06-20-2013 19:30 »

What came to my attention:

- Fry and Leela trying to keep work and private live separated (with their co-workers interfering) was already mentioned on Peel as a plot for Fry and Leela in a commited relationship.
- The two episodes showed Fry and Leela as a couple when needed (FaLbF), but kept them in a neutral towards each other when not needed (2DB). That handling was also mentioned on Peel as the supposedly best way to deal with the two characters as a couple.

It does of course not take a genius to come up with both ideas, as they are pretty obvious. Yet, there is still some suspicion left wether 1-2 Futurama writers sometimes sneak into fansites, read a bit and occasionally think "Hm...not a bad idea" wink


I'd like to mention another thing about that episode:
Couples are said to copy each other's habits after a while.
The writing on Leela here reminded me of Fry:
She seemed to share Fry's "normal person viewpoint", in which the character often just has to be there and observe events, without performing too many actions. And the two were rather passive and lazy in the episode (their major effort was to walk away as soon as being disturbed by someone else).

With Leela taking on some of Fry's habits, I would like to see another reversed episode with Fry taking on some of Leela's traits for the mere symmetry of it wink (Of couse, going on a holiday fits well with a "let's be lazy theme", so "Leela becoming lazy" is far easier to write then "Fry becoming an action hero".)
Eternium

Professor
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« Reply #28 on: 06-20-2013 19:52 »

THAT WAS SO AWSOME! AMAZING!

This will be on my personal list of favorite episodes big grin I loved the plot featuring Fry and Leela trying to be alone for a bit(I'm really a shipper), this episode made me laugh for once! Some parts got by very quickly, but I don't mind since those parts were just about to be annoying. The scenery is wonderfull as well!

10/10 ridiculous, I know ^^
JoshTheater

Space Pope
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« Reply #29 on: 06-20-2013 20:15 »
« Last Edit on: 06-20-2013 20:24 »

This episode was actually pretty darn good. Way better than the awful mess that was 2-D Blacktop, that's for sure. Lots of great gags and a decent story.

8/10
coffeeBot

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #30 on: 06-20-2013 20:29 »
« Last Edit on: 06-20-2013 20:31 »

I thought it was on the better side of "okay". I really loved the twist- it seemed like a return to the sci-fi geekery of the show, which seems to have been declining a bit. As a shipper, the dinner was adorable, but I quickly started hating Leela when Sean showed up. Although, the "naked and interrupted" line was classic, and the hosing out of the room was pretty disgusting and amazing at the same time. However- perhaps my standards are getting way too high after reminiscing about old Futurama, but the shippiness wasn't nearly as good as some of the other romantically tinged ones- in particular, comparing this episode to Parasites Lost makes it seem pretty lame.

- In the end, Amy once again acted like a backup Leela.

Yes, this bothered me a bit. But the pj's were adorable. Awww, SPARKLES! love

[...] the Prairie Elephants weren't great jokes.

I thought they were adorable. I giggled like a little schoolgirl. shifty

I gave this an  8/10, but on further reflection, it's more of a 7/10.
sparkybarky

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #31 on: 06-20-2013 21:04 »

Awww, SPARKLES! love

You rang? ...oh, never mind.

Quote
I really loved the twist- it seemed like a return to the sci-fi geekery of the show, which seems to have been declining a bit.

Perhaps the human enclosure in the zoo is a reference to Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five? I dunno.

I didn't find this episode chocked full of laughs. I giggled more than guffawed. Tentatively, what made the most impression on me was just how it showed Fry and Leela acting like a couple. The scene where they are in Leela's apartment, him sitting on the couch while she puts on  Bill Withers, just felt so...realistic. Like it had that touch of verisimilitude...Fry wagging his foot, the "lighting" of the apartment, the music that is a mainstay on "lite rock/less talk" FM stations.... Minor details, but nice touches.

And when they were skinny dipping, Leela looks on at Fry when he takes his clothes off, without any lasciviousness, but just happiness and love. Ack, I should take this to the shipper thread if I'm going to gush on more.

The week in the worm thing seemed completely unnecessary.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #32 on: 06-20-2013 21:10 »

Ack, I should take this to the shipper thread if I'm going to gush on more.

Hehe...I must say I was quite a bit surprised no one took the episode to that thread so far wink
JoshTheater

Space Pope
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« Reply #33 on: 06-20-2013 22:20 »

Perhaps the human enclosure in the zoo is a reference to Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five? I dunno.

I imagine that it was...I know the Tralfamadorians were the first thing I thought of when they revealed the twist.
Professor Zoidy

Urban Legend
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« Reply #34 on: 06-20-2013 22:22 »

I gave this episode a 6/10 because it was alright nothing mind-blowingly great but I can't gripe too much about it. Definitely not the worst from the NuFu run (yeah I made a dorky acronym). I'm not sure I liked Sean's design. I didn't picture him as a hippie Kenny G type. I pictured him as a more average d-bag type that could play sax. That's actually my largest gripe for the episode. I think if I was to rewatch it I'd give it at least a seven.
The Sophisticated Shut In

Bending Unit
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« Reply #35 on: 06-20-2013 23:06 »

I really enjoyed this episode - 2D Blacktop made me smile, but this one had me laughing out loud more than once. Some thoughts :

- I didn't have a problem with the twist being spoiled in promos. It would have been much, much funnier if it hadn't been, but it didn't take away from my enjoyment of the episode too much. Knowing what Fry and Leela didn't made a lot of their behavior even more embarrassing - the skinny dipping, the fighting, the sex. And I loved that the crew DIDN'T get there in time to stop them.

- Bender : "YOU WERE IN A ZOO!!"  laff

- I liked Guenter in this episode. (I know. What's up with the world? Although one of my favorite Guenter moments was him getting tranqued, so maybe all is right after all.)

- The return of Bender-the-art-critic was a nice touch. A fun throwback to Love and Rocket.

- Sean was pretty much exactly how I pictured him, and I liked the handling of his and Leela's relationship, with her curious at first to see what she'd been missing, but quickly realizing she was bored stupid listening to his sax solos, and that he had absolutely no interest in the major events of her life. His frugality was an unexpectedly hilarious aspect of his character too.

- My loved ones are all getting marmoset pajamas for Christmas. Just sayin'.

- There were too many moments I liked to list them all, which is a good sign. Aside from all those listed by other PEELers, I'll add : Fry asking the robot hands what else they could do, Amy and Guenter at the ape bar ("Ew! I'll use the tongs."), Fry eating the peanut butter while Leela watches, and Fry and Leela hiding in the lockers at work. (Also Scruffy watching their date, though I think that was commented on already.)

Spacedal11

Space Pope
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« Reply #36 on: 06-20-2013 23:10 »

NuFu? I love it!

And yeah I wasn't picturing Sean being a Kenny G kind of person either. I kind of imagined he looked like a sloppy version of Fry that could play the sax.
MuchAdo

Professor
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« Reply #37 on: 06-20-2013 23:26 »

I enjoyed the newest comic more than both of these episodes!
Scrappylive

Starship Captain
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« Reply #38 on: 06-20-2013 23:40 »

I've always like Guenter. 'Nuff said.


homerjaysimpson

Space Pope
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« Reply #39 on: 06-20-2013 23:40 »

This episode sucked less than the 2d one. Too much referring back to tons better episodes and I want to watch them instead.
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