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MuchAdo

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« Reply #560 on: 04-16-2013 22:40 »

Fox still own the rights to the newly produced Comedy Central episodes and they still take the money from the DVD sales, so Fox still have a huge part in the decision-making process.

Obviously, we don't know the exact details, but it seems to be that the show was revived as part of a deal between Comedy Central and Fox's production wing whereby Comedy Central are only paying an amount of money to cover part of the production costs of the new episodes (whereas normally, a channel would be covering all of the production costs), and Fox are putting some money into the show as well, because they take money from DVD sales.

Comedy Central can't afford to produce Futurama without a bit of help from Fox, who are happy to sweeten the deal because they'll be raking in cash from DVD sales, so it's basically win/win for them.

Because of this, the episode ratings are quite important, in spite of the show's strong cult appeal and strong DVD sales, because the ratings are basically all that Comedy Central gets out of the deal - although, obviously, how well the ratings do for the repeats of the new episodes is also important.

At least, that was my understanding of things.
That's correct.
Startug

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« Reply #561 on: 04-16-2013 22:42 »

There we go. I think Cyber's closed our case.

Now... back to the "NEWS" topic instead of analysts and therapists, also known as analrapists.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #562 on: 04-16-2013 22:57 »

More or less 2 weeks until news/previews may start appearing.
lol

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« Reply #563 on: 04-17-2013 00:07 »

Now... back to the "NEWS" topic instead of analysts and therapists, also known as analrapists.

That genuinely made me laugh.
11/10 Would read again.
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #564 on: 04-17-2013 00:40 »

There we go. I think Cyber's closed our case.

Now... back to the "NEWS" topic instead of analysts and therapists, also known as analrapists.

Yes, and you almost got arrested for those business cards!

I'm very excited for the Countdown to start! Also very nice analysis cyber.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #565 on: 04-17-2013 00:47 »

Now... back to the "NEWS" topic instead of analysts and therapists, also known as analrapists.

That genuinely made me laugh.
11/10 Would read again.

Judging from your username, I doubt there's much that wouldn't make you laugh. smile
DotheBartman

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« Reply #566 on: 04-17-2013 05:19 »

Turnip has it exactly right. The one caveat I'd add is that what he describes isn't really a special deal in television as much as the norm for quite a bit of it (not all of it, of course); it's generally understood that most shows will lose money on their initial broadcasts, because of how expensive they are to make, but will eventually make their money back and then-some in the event the show makes it to syndication (and nowadays, DVD and other things). It's not universal, but especially with shows produced by one studio and then aired on a network not part of the same company (as is the case here), the network is almost always paying a "license fee" that's less than what the show actually costs to make, so that said network can still make a profit on their end through advertising. The studio enters into this deal with the understanding/assumption that they will be able to make the rest back on their own later through other uses of the property.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #567 on: 04-17-2013 09:30 »
« Last Edit on: 04-17-2013 09:39 »

True.. it's the new normal and is more common now.

That is all correct.

Interestingly Fox actually loses money on every new Simpsons episode, the reruns are much more profitable. Thus one of the many reasons how/why FOX decided to cut costs when they signed those last new contracts.
It's b/c they know in the long run the bigger the franchise is, the more likely an all Simpsons channel (which they've mentioned) will work not to mention forever continuing merch sales and BIG syndication deals when the Simpsons ends and is finally up for syndication, besides just on those standard Fox affiliates.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Simpsons cannot be sold into cable syndication until it is over and has ended, due to the original contracts?
Which is why FG is on every channel all day but not the Simpsons... yet.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #568 on: 04-17-2013 13:18 »
« Last Edit on: 04-17-2013 14:02 »

Hey, I know what we could do next! Let's specify people, who account to Futurama's continuation and then try to predict their decision.

But seriously, very interesting analysing. I have always wondered how is FOX involved to Futurama nowadays.
futz
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« Reply #569 on: 04-17-2013 16:01 »

The Simpsons have been syndication on a local non-Fox station here for as long as I can remember. Trouble is they only show episodes from the previous season so they just run the same batch over and over again until another season comes around. It was on in the late afternoon but was bumped to the wee morning hours by Jerry Springer type shows. Only thing I've heard is that anything to do with The Simpsons is expensive. Too bad because there are few shows that have that many episodes. Could have non-repeating episodes every weekday for over a year.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #570 on: 04-17-2013 19:44 »

They can air it in local syndication, but Muchado is correct about cable. That also encompasses services like Netflix. The Simpsons loses money on initial airing (except for the network presumably, since they probably pay a lower fee than what their gross on it is from advertising, but in any case the show is very valuable to them as far as it leading a night of programming for them) but makes its money later through syndication and the larger franchise. Especially with foreign rights and everything, they have no reason to end it even if the episodes lose money on the first showing.

This isn't even "New Normal" though....television has worked this way for several decades. Very little of television actually makes money on initial broadcast. Many cable networks don't even make money on any of their original programming, but they need it simply to anchor the network and allow them to make a profit on whatever network shows they buy rerun rights to.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #571 on: 04-17-2013 21:01 »
« Last Edit on: 04-17-2013 21:03 »

Christopher Tyng’s 31st Century Beat

And another interview with Katey Sagal, this time she mentions Futurama (at the end)!

Katey Sagal: Love and 'Anarchy'

For those who just want the part about Futurama:

Quote from: Windy City Times
Futurama has a big cult following. Is there more coming out?

Quote from: Katey Sagal
They are about to start airing a new season on Comedy Central that we have already recorded so it might be on really soon. I don't have the airdates for that but it should be coming in the summer.

Futurama is always the job that I never know if it is going to last or not. [Laughs] It just goes season by season. It has such a strong fan base that we end up doing more so I would imagine that will still happen.
Just Fan
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« Reply #572 on: 04-17-2013 23:00 »

Unfortunately, she is just barely optimistic about renewal hmpf.
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #573 on: 04-17-2013 23:01 »

'I dunno lol' is what I got from that.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #574 on: 04-17-2013 23:13 »
« Last Edit on: 04-17-2013 23:17 »

She's saying it really goes season by season and nobody knows when it will be truly over.

Thus it's up to the fans... so buy more Futurama stuff.. now!
You basically vote with your dollars on what entertainment you want more of.

I'm in it for one more production season of 26 episodes baby, whoo-hoo!
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« Reply #575 on: 04-18-2013 06:37 »

[deleted crap]

Seriously?
MuchAdo

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« Reply #576 on: 04-18-2013 15:42 »

Just wanted to post this quick:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/fox-cancels-the-cleveland-show-finally-giving-seth,96611/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default

LOL!
Sof

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« Reply #577 on: 04-18-2013 15:58 »

That is a sign that god is real...oh wait, Brickleberry stills on TV frown
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #578 on: 04-18-2013 16:47 »


Really? You didn't know about this? "Ugly Americans" was also canned, probably to make way for the much worse "Brickleberry".

Right now, no news is bad news. Though I feel that the crew could produce episodes for next summer/autumn come September, the fact that the crew has been dismissed is not good news; I don't believe the crew was dismissed between the 2011-2012 interim. I'd just say that the crew is trying to be optimistic for the fandom's sake, maybe as a last-ditch effort to get us to purchase media.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #579 on: 04-18-2013 18:03 »
« Last Edit on: 04-23-2013 00:16 »

Futurama is in the same damn boat as TCS... in that it's going into hiatus land.

TCS is canned, and so is Futurella.

Just Fan
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« Reply #580 on: 04-22-2013 16:47 »

The end.
El-Man

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« Reply #581 on: 04-22-2013 17:00 »

Oh, well. We knew it would happen some day. But am I buoyed by words 'epic ending'...
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #582 on: 04-22-2013 17:18 »

"I don't want to live on this planet anymore."
Sigh... at least I was prepared to this, sort of...
DannyJC13

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« Reply #583 on: 04-22-2013 17:21 »
« Last Edit on: 04-22-2013 17:31 »

FOX better do what they said and pick it up... Otherwise, sigh. A billion, never-ending, infinite sighs. cry

At least they're possibly considering methods of bringing it back yet again. And glad to see yet another person say 7B has the best episodes they've ever created. big grin

Also:

Eternium

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« Reply #584 on: 04-22-2013 17:26 »
« Last Edit on: 04-22-2013 17:40 »

We all knew this would happen, but I am still very sad frown

Best parts:
damnit Danny! You beat me to it xD
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #585 on: 04-22-2013 17:27 »

It's a shame to hear this.

On the other hand, we've gotten an extra 52 episodes since the movies. If that's not a decent comeback, then I don't know what is.

Eternium and Danny: you might want to put that in a spoiler tag.  wink
Sof

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« Reply #586 on: 04-22-2013 17:30 »

Oh no! Seriously I want to cry and my heart is broken but, now I wonder how this show will end...seriously I don't know how to react about this.
Anna3000

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« Reply #587 on: 04-22-2013 17:31 »

That's depressing news for today  frown We are lucky it's had such a long run, though, compared to how long most shows live.

I'm even more excited about "Meanwhile" now, though  smile
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #588 on: 04-22-2013 17:35 »

Last episode seems very appropriate for shows ending.
And I want to believe Futurama will come back after a year or two due fans.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #589 on: 04-22-2013 17:39 »

I'm sad that this finale will, no doubt, be another sort of open-ended finale instead of a proper one.

But at the same time, I'm happy for the show to end now. Season 7A was easily the worst run of episodes in the show's history (so far), and I'd rather not see it turn into The Simpsons. I'd just like them to get a proper goodbye.

Hopefully, they'll sort it out in one capacity or another. I'd love to see a feature film but realistically, it's more likely to be one last straight-to-video movie that gets off the ground via Kickstarter.
TheAnvil

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« Reply #590 on: 04-22-2013 17:44 »

I'm sure they'll find another outlet to release episodes, or straight to dvd movies.
futurefreak

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« Reply #591 on: 04-22-2013 17:46 »

Ah I was about to post that link, Just Fan beat me to it.

I have mixed reactions towards this. I love Futurama, its existence completely altered my life almost 13 years ago. I met some cool PEELple and even dated a few of them. But ever since it came back it has been hit or miss imo. It doesn't have the same ...I don't know, innocence? as before. Does that make sense? And they totally f*ed with the Fry Leela ship that came to made me loathe it entirely, when I used to be a very strong shipper.

So on the one hand I am sad it is leaving again when we fought so hard to bring it back. On the other hand I would rather see it go then get ruined further like a certain other Groening franchise...and on the third hand, maybe my toys will become more collectible big grin
Beanoz4

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« Reply #592 on: 04-22-2013 18:13 »

That's pretty sad, but atleast Comedy Central treated the show better than Fox did. I'm fairly certain it'll come back again
Just Fan
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« Reply #593 on: 04-22-2013 18:14 »

Quote from: Eric Rogers
... Now we celebrate the final 13 episodes. We premiere June 19 with 2 episodes, including MINE, "Fry and Leela's Big Fling"! Very excited.
So... judging by Eric's recent tweet, his "Fry and Leela's Big Fling" will be shown on June 19 premiere (together with "40% Leadbelly", I suppose?).
futurefreak

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« Reply #594 on: 04-22-2013 18:17 »

Beanoz, cyber, nice to see you guys around here big grin

After Devil's Hands we were left with some "what ifs"...when it came back, those questions were answered. I think I'm comfortable with it ending.
PhoffiFozz
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« Reply #595 on: 04-22-2013 18:57 »

Well, I'm very bummed.  I'm not surprised at all, but I'm very bummed out nonetheless.  It's by far been my favorite show since before it was cancelled the first time.

I'm not really a fan of any other show, other than The Simpsons and without Futurama to look forward to, TV in general doesn't interest me.

Having said that, I'd love to see it come out in a direct-to-DVD situation or through Netflix or something like that.

I still feel the show is putting out great episodes that far excede anything else I've tried to watch and think it's too soon to end.  I'm ready to start a petition.
My Manwich

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« Reply #596 on: 04-22-2013 19:02 »

I guess all we can do is watch the show and buy the dvds.
LadyBender

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« Reply #597 on: 04-22-2013 19:15 »

Is horrible! Please tell me it's just a bad dream.  cry
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/956/648/940/save-futurama-again/ someone have even made ​​a sort of petition
AllEggsIn1Basket

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« Reply #598 on: 04-22-2013 19:28 »

Looks like I will just have to buy the next season on iTunes so I can watch it as it comes. Otherwise I'll have to avoid this site while the episodes air so I don't spoil anything for myself. Definitely won't be able to wait for it to come out on DVD near Christmas!
Eternium

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« Reply #599 on: 04-22-2013 19:30 »
« Last Edit on: 04-22-2013 19:31 »

Appearently the final episode 'Meanwhile' will be shown September 4th.
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